The Battle of TOWTON MOOR

By: sandiquiz , 7:55 PM GMT on March 31, 2014

You may have heard of the mnemonic for the colours of the rainbow.

As a child I was taught - "Richard of York gave battle in vain"

Why mention this?

Well, I am about to write about one of the battles that took place during 1455 and 1487 - a period widely known as "The Wars of the Roses".

The Yorkists of the 'White Rose', fought the Lancastrians of the 'Red Rose', for the throne of England.

It all began because the King of England, Henry VI, suffered from periodic bouts of insanity, so transferred the right of succession to his cousin Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York, by an Act of Settlement. His strong willed wife, Queen Margaret of Anjou, was unwilling to accept the fact that her only son, Edward, Prince of Wales, would therefore be disinherited. The Queen was fiercely protective of her young son and his rights, so rallied the Lancastrian nobles to attack Richard. The Yorkists, under Richard, despised the Lancastrians and were willing to fight for supremacy, and the throne.

There were many battles during the period of 1455 to 1487, where the power swapped from the House of Lancaster to The House of York and back again, several times.

The one I am going to write about is "The Battle of Towton Moor" that took place on March 29th 1461, when the Lancastrians attacked the Yorkists on Towton Moor, but were slaughtered, leaving Edward of York, Richard's eldest son, to rule England for 9 years whilst Henry VI hid in Scotland with his family.


At the weekend I attended a choir reunion. It was forty years to the day since the choir had their first rehearsal with just 12 people. The lady who began the choir was at the reunion - a sprightly 86 year old and still full of fun. To me she looked no different to the lady who welcomed me to the choir on my first night over 30 years ago. The choir is now conducted by a friend of C's, who sings with him in the 'International Touring Choir' they both belong to.

The dinner on Saturday night was a wonderful way to catch up with old friends, and we had the privilege of hearing the special musical piece written for the choir, to celebrate their Ruby Anniversary Concert in the summer.

On the Sunday morning, as we left the guest house where we had stayed, the weather was misty.

About a mile from the guest house is Towton Moor cross, so I asked C if we could go to see it, so that I could take a photo.

The sky was weird: it was misty and mottled, with a weak sun peeping through. The top of Towton Moor is an eerie place at the best of times, but in the mist it was even more so.

We got out of the car, and whilst C had a look at the newly erected tourist information boards, I went to take a photo of the cross. I noticed a bouquet of red roses on the side nearest to where I was standing, then as I walked around I noticed the white ones.


Someone had placed them on the cross to remember the anniversary of "probably the largest and bloodiest battle ever fought on English soil".

On 4th March 1461, Edward of York named himself King Edward IV in Westminster Abbey, after his father, Richard, Duke of York, had been killed at the Battle of Wakefield. BUT this meant that England would have two Kings! Henry was still officially King, even though he left the fighting to his Lancastrian nobles. The Queen and the Lancastrians were furious that Edward had declared himself King, so marched to Yorkshire and gathered at Ferrybridge, south of Towton, on the morning of the 28th March, ready for battle.


Images of Edward of York, the young 17 year old son of Richard, and Henry VI.

The Yorkist troops knew of the Lancastrians' intentions so marched north to engage them. Edward and his troops made camp at Towton, on the eve of the 29th, ready for battle the next morning.

At 4am on the 29th, the Lancastrians attacked, using falling snow to deaden their advances.

Norfolk and Warwick's troops did not get to the battle site until later on the 29th, but their arrival rallied the Yorkists into defeating the Lancastrians.


History tells us that an estimated 70,000 soldiers fought a furious battle that day: with arrows, swords, spears and by hand. By the end of the day it is thought that nearly 30,000 were dead.

Several bridges in the area collapsed under the weight of fleeing men in armour, plunging many into the freezing water. So many died that the 'chroniclers' recorded that the Lancastrians eventually fled across 'bridges' of bodies. Local tradition states that the river ran red with blood for many days afterwards.

Towton Moor in the mist, 553 years after the battle, ... is still a spooky place!

"And heaped in many a lofty mound,
By pitying victors then,
That battle-field gave burial ground
To thirty thousand men;

And on those mounds the Roses twain
Of civil strife, were set,
To mark the parties of the slain,
With symbols of regret."

Jane Williams 1858


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117. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
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116. JanesVacation
11:43 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Stopping by to say "hi" and wish you a good week. I see your temps are the same as mine tonight. 46F/8C Things have improved greatly here. The last smidgen of snow has just disappeared in the spring rains. A few trees are showing buds and the grass is greening up with this rain over the weekend. My tulips are even up 4-5 inches.

Have a lovely week before Easter! (Shh...I have Thursday and Friday off because of working in a Catholic School.) When will there ever be a full week of school around here?? LOL
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115. palmettobug53
8:39 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Shame on you, Sky! Hobnobbing with another cat and carrying the smell home with you! lol

"WHOOOOO have you been with?!" Accompanied, of course, with a sneering look of disgust and derision, an irritated tail twitch or two and highly indignant stalk off into another room. You may get the cold shoulder for a bit.
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114. SkyBlue17
6:21 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Thank you for a most delightful time. :))

I'm now a proud owner of a deck chair. I have already sat in it, had a cup of tea and closed my eyes to the evening sun.

Someone wasn’t happy with the scent of Max...silly Indigo.

Have a lovely week and will speak to you soon. :))

Hi Bug and Pros. :))
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113. WeatherWise
4:27 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Heading up the apples and the pears? Tell us more. Hope you have a fun dinner!
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112. palmettobug53
2:12 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Hi, Sandi.

It sounds like you and Sky had a nice day. And you're off for more visitation today? Hope you have a good lunch!
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111. sandiquiz
10:15 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
Hi All, the day has gone very well... lots of good company and chatter, but now heading up the apples and pears!

Be back tomorrow, briefly, before heading out to dinner with an ex-colleague:)

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110. DataPilot
6:34 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
About heartbleed, I don't see what the panic is about, since it has been around for two years, doing all it's badness.

Briar, not true. While it's true that the vulnerability has existed for a couple of years, Heartbleed only became known to the world at large - including Bad Guys - on Monday or Tuesday. By mid-week, exploit code became freely available across the internet. That means that ANY half-wit can now download programs that suck data off of vulnerable servers.

My co-worker downloaded a program and started trying it against a server he knew was vulnerable. He could see every kind of data that the server had processed. EVERYTHING! No protection whatsoever! And he didn't have to take any sort of fancy gyrations. All he did was grab a little program that someone else threw together and put on the internet.

What's so extraordinary about Heartbleed is that it reads the actual contents of the server's memory. There's never been anything like it in the history of the internet.
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109. DataPilot
6:23 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
Quoting 107. whitewabit:
See everyone is upset about the Heartbleed Virus that is believed to have infected almost all web sites ..

If one already uses normal security methods which include changing pass words at least monthly .. they have very little to worry about ..

but those who are still using the same password as they did 5 years ago need to change their passwords after the site has made the security patch !!

I'm always amazed when one of these viruses are exposed and everyone panics for a few months then revert back to the very thing experts say not to do !! not changing passwords monthly ..

Wabit, Heartbleed isn't a virus, it's a massive hole in the way that information is encrypted across the internet. While changing passwords frequently is a good idea in general, the Heartbleed vulnerability is so bad that your most precious data may have been accessed using NO password whatsoever. Worse yet, neither you nor the people who manage your data have any way of knowing if someone has been quietly slurping up your data. Any and every kind of data you can imagine could have been taken - passwords are only the start.

As someone who is way more familiar with Heartbleed than I'd like to be, I can assure you that it's not just hype. OMG, if you could only see what we see!
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108. BriarCraft
6:14 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
You truly were not exaggerating when you said earlier in the week that you were going to be a very busy lady. Does the phrase, "Burning the candle at both ends" strike any chords with you?

About heartbleed, I don't see what the panic is about, since it has been around for two years, doing all it's badness. I'm not trying to downplay the severity of the problem, but only saying this is not new. The only thing new is our knowledge of it. So yes, do change passwords and check your credit record periodically, by all means. But that is good advice whether or not the websites you use are affected by heartbleed. Hackers and worms and viruses abound, so operate as if your passwords and other data are always at risk.

Congrats to HE-C on the new, close job. It is wonderful not to have to spend half of one's life commuting back and forth. I once had a choice between a long-commute job paying $200 more a month (30 years ago, when $200 was a lot more than it is now) more than another job offer 2 miles from home. I took the close job and actually had more spendable income as a result of less fuel needed and lower car insurance, and had the added benefit of being able to pop home for lunch if I wanted.

The visual comparisons of the Photo Galleries in #83 is excellent at pointing out the comparative eye-friendliness of the different pages. You should post that in the wuproductteam blog as well, even though you wrote a great text comment previously, pointing out how unfair it is that a portrait photo is made to look less noteworthy by virtue of its narrower width.

Your remark that things will speed up here as they apparently did on Flickr is, I hope, valid. I got a kick out of your comment that something took 5 seconds to load for you, who has that awesome super-fast fiber connection. Just imagine what load times are for those of us with slower connections. From my perspective, 5 seconds isn't bad. At least for the time being, I get my weather forecast from instantaneous WUclassic. I check the blogs in Beta and make comments there, but if I need to edit a comment, it's back to WUclassic. And I haven't done more than take one slow-loading glance at the Beta photo gallery yesterday.

I hope you are having a terrific weekend!
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107. whitewabit
6:03 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
See everyone is upset about the Heartbleed Virus that is believed to have infected almost all web sites ..

If one already uses normal security methods which include changing pass words at least monthly .. they have very little to worry about ..

but those who are still using the same password as they did 5 years ago need to change their passwords after the site has made the security patch !!

I'm always amazed when one of these viruses are exposed and everyone panics for a few months then revert back to the very thing experts say not to do !! not changing passwords monthly ..
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105. WeatherWise
2:15 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
Hi Sandi! Have a great weekend!
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104. palmettobug53
2:13 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
I read about Heartbleed in Thursday's paper. It was the first I'd heard about it.

Later that day, my supervisor sent us an email about HB.

I do very little online here at home, besides email and Internet browsing. I seldom shop online nor do I pay bills online.

The kicker is that HB has been around for almost 2 years and no one knew about it. Or let on that they did.

I checked the list Thursday and, so far, I only see two things I use. Paypal said they were never affected. Gmail patched their server before HB disclosure and suggest that you might want to change your password and set up 2 step verification. (I'd already set up 2 step verification several months ago.) I guess I ought to change my password on that.

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103. DataPilot
5:49 AM GMT on April 12, 2014
Heartbleed.... it's been nothing but heartache, and heartburn, for those of us who work in IT. My to-do list for this week? Forget it. Rest and sleep in the evenings? Hahahahahaha - that's funny.

The really painful part about Heartbleed is the difficulty in figuring out whether, or how, it affects any given computer system. Most of the systems we work with are Linux and use Open SSL for encryption, so we have lots to go over them with a fine-toothed comb. Most people think of SSL as the "s" in "https", but really that's only the proverbial tip of the iceberg. Many computer systems have SSL embedded in places that are hard to find, even by the administrators that install and manage the server software, and for that matter, the developers that write it. Additionally, some systems have multiple installations of Open SSL, including different versions - some of which are affected by Heartbleed, and others that aren't. Figuring out which of the SSL installations is actually being used, and by which component of the computer system, and whether it constitutes a real threat is a monumental chore.

Exacerbating the whole mess is the need to obtain, revoke and install new certificates on formerly vulnerable servers after they've been patched. Certificate authorities are all overwhelmed right now, so just getting a hold of the new certificates is arduous. And if that's not bad enough, we then have to notify everyone affected and tell them to change their passwords.

But wait, there's more ...
Before we can tell people to change passwords, we have to beef up yet another one of our computer systems to handle the flood of password-changing.

Oh, my head hurts! :( But I do feel a little bit better after venting.

It's time for me to get some sleep. I'm exhausted, and the purring kitty on my lap would rather snuggle up next to me in bed. I think that's an excellent idea.

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102. sandiquiz
4:59 AM GMT on April 12, 2014
Good morning Pros and Shirley.....:-)

Pros, I could have done with your cleaning crew yesterday....I had to do my own cleaning!! lol
Yes it is SB who is coming, it will me lovely to see them and catch up with the gossip!!

Shirley, I knew about HeartBleed, as the news here as been full of it, so I did some research, and found that the main sites I use - Dropbox, Yahoo and Flickr - had been fixed so I changed my password. I read it was useless changing the password before the fix had been put in place.
I agree I with your daughter, the list is so long, and I have no idea whether I have any connections with some of them. The tree above were the only ones I really recognised!!

Have a wonderful day everyone....Might not be back until tomorrow!
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101. WeatherWise
3:00 AM GMT on April 12, 2014
Sandi, My daughter was talking HeartBleed on Fb last night and my techie son or should say one of my techie sons was giving her advice of what to do.

How to protect yourself from the 'Heartbleed' bug - CNET

Son: I definitely would recommend looking at the lists of affected sites on the article. Make sure to change your password on all of those.

Daughter: ok, any suggestions to get started on this...the amount of websites is overwhelming..and who knows if I even have an account on some of them

Daughter: and I'm not going to remember any of these passwords tomorrow

Of course, I am clueless. Have you taken any steps?

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100. Proserpina
8:18 PM GMT on April 11, 2014
Hi Sandi. You sure did have a busy day yesterday. Glad MrC has a new job... And what a kind helpful person you are! Stopping to pick up men by the road, driving him around, and giving him a cup of tea! You really are a saint! I assume you know the man or else I'd have to worry about you.

If I read correctly, today you are entertaining our sweet SkyeBlue. Cinnamon buns and spelt bread! I wish I were there to smell the aroma and to savor a crumb or two.

Keeping myself busy and out of trouble. At the moment the cleaning crew is here and have an opportunity to catch up with WU. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

You posted as I was writing this. Ok, SB comes tomorrow!

HeartBleed? I better get on the net and find out what this is all about!
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99. sandiquiz
8:12 PM GMT on April 11, 2014
Hi All,

I have been reading about this Heart Bleed issue after hearing more about it on the news today, and found a site on the Internet linked to CNET, that provided more info. Changing passwords, it said, was not the thing to do until the website had put the OpenSSL fix in place, then change them.

So this evening I used a site linked to CNET - - that checks the websites you use that are on the list. Yahoo, and hence Flickr, were on the list, so I checked them and found that the fix has been put in place... then I changed my passwords.

So it was really comforting to go to my bank this evening and find this message...

"Media reports regarding 'Heartbleed'11 Apr 14

Customers may be aware of media interest in an external Internet related issue called 'Heartbleed'. Lloyds Bank takes the security of our banking services very seriously and we would like to reassure our customers that our online banking systems are not exposed to this vulnerability. As such customers are advised that there is currently no need for them to take any action with regards to changing Lloyds Banking Group passwords."

Ozgalah - Some men really need a kick when they loose it in front of "us Ladies" - lol
Sounds as though you had fun - updating an old 17th century cottage and extending it was the nearest I came to building my own...but I would have loved it!

Hope you have a great weekend:)

GG - Oh, dear, I knew it! New carpets lead to total revamp and decoration!

Does the date of the 24th mean the decoration must be completed before then?


I am extremely tired tonight, after not sleeping well this week for some reason, then out two days running, but everything is ready for tomorrow and all I need to do is last minute food preparation...:)

But right now, I am heading to bed!

I am saying goodnight, and possibly goodbye until Monday - Be good!

Oh, SKyBlue, you sneaked in - Yes, 11 or whenever you get here will be fine.....see you tomorrow:)
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98. SkyBlue17
8:02 PM GMT on April 11, 2014
Hello! :)
I've been baking, sowing lots of seeds and working on the laundry pile, which is now thankfully gone. It seems while H and I were away, the laundry accumulated with a frightening speed, as I had done all the laundry before we went away. .??
Today a work colleague gave me four raspberry canes, all potted up. I will give her some of our yellow raspberry canes when I get to that side of the garden, next week.
Well, today the peace we so enjoyed for the last week was broken by the return of NFH (Neighbour From Hell) and her boyfriend and the kids. The whole week we had been able to have the back door open and windows ditto. It was so nice and quiet!
S, I have cinnamon buns in a bag (just a few as per and also some spelt bread for you.
Good news re C's job and the places round it. Am now very curios about the badge!!
The armpit place...a good meeting by all accounts. He was going to get home early, then noticed his mobile phone was back at work-so went back to place of work. Got stuck in an awful issue, which has been plaguing him most of the week! So, he has handed over specific duties to someone officially...but he's not sure it will be done. It wasn't last time! Remember all the phone calls while he was on holiday?!
Would you like a couple of spaghetti squash seeds? I planted some and am hopeful they will germinate and grow lots of lovely fruits for us!
We aim to come round about 11-ish. Is that alright or would you prefer another time? See you tomorrow...from the Essex crew! Lol
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97. GardenGrrl
4:11 PM GMT on April 11, 2014
Hi, we have picked our carpet. (And thus have chosen secondarily to re-decorate the house.)

When we bought the place new, all the colors, curtains, trim where coordinated with the couch. Lot's of greens and browns. Very earthy.

The new carpet is called blue oyster and is a hybrid of light blue and slate. Doesn't go with the couch or curtains at all. The couch needs replacing anyways.

The bedroom got this wonderful deep plush carpet that should probably be called bordello burgundy. We both like red/burgundy colors and resisted doing this to the whole house. I exercise on the floor in the bedroom so this deep soft carpet is going to be great for doing sit-ups.

Anyhow, it arrives on the 24th.
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96. ozgalah
11:03 PM GMT on April 10, 2014
Hi Sandi, glad to hear C got his job sorted. Yes some house prices here are ridiculous and people build huge homes. Grand Designs is a big favourite here, I like to see what other people are doing whilst building there homes but I know it was a lot of work when we built our last house in New South Wales, I don't know if I would do it again! We had a dream build but it was still time consuming and I was "project manager" for want of a better term so the phone rang umpteen times a day and I had to get over to the block, most of the tradies were great but a couple are memorable for not being nice. One comes to mind with a truck full of ready mix cement that HE got bogged and then told me was my fault despite several other workmen telling him he would not get up to the site if he went the way he said he was going. This was a rural block too down a quiet dirt track road fortunately a neighbouring farmer pulled him out with his tractor! The truck driver was in shorts, hawaiian shirt and the biggest sombrero I have ever seen so hard to take seriously but his language was straight off the toilet floor, there were however several gentlemen tradies who soon told him to watch his words!
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95. sandiquiz
8:25 PM GMT on April 10, 2014
What a busy day it turned out to be... even more busy than planned.

I drove across to the next town to meet my friend for lunch and as I returned my mobile rang. It was my neighbour asking me where I was. When I said, he said, 'Oh, great, look out for mad man alongside the road as you come past the fire station.'

He had run out of petrol!! And he was a police car mechanic by trade! He said the gauge had stuck, and that was his excuse. Anyway, I took him home to pick a petrol can, then drove him to the petrol station, before taking him back to his car. He then followed me home and came in for a coffee. About ten minutes after he left the house phone rang and a friend, who has been ill, rang to chat. Another hour went by!

I then got dinner organised, before going our to pick up C from a conference in the city centre. His new job means he might often have to attend meetings in the city, where parking is at a premium. On the days he does, it seem more sensible for me to drop him off and then pick him up, it is only ten minutes, but the cost of parking all day would be over almost 15 pound.

Now I am ready for bed!

GG - I love choosing new carpets, and after they have been fitted the whole room smells so fresh!!

Hope the seller had something you both liked:)

Shirley - The conversation continued over in your blog:) glad it is sorted.

Bug - Office moves are very tiring... I know, I helped C do that about 15 years ago, when his office expanded and moved to new premises. He was PM involved in making sure it was finished on time. The cleaners had been in and everything was done except the new computers to be unpacked and fitted at the terminals. When they opened the boxes they had been packed with those silly polystyrene balls!! So at midnight, before the launch the next morning, there was I with my Kirby vacuum, collecting all the small white balls off the new grey carpet!! It took a couple of hours to get it back to what it had looked like!!

But if your new office is closer, that's a great bonus...I just hope the kitchen has more than ONE microwave!! lol
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94. palmettobug53
5:04 PM GMT on April 10, 2014
Glad to hear that C's new job seems to be off to a rousing start. Not have travel expenses OR travel time is going to be wonderful.

Our office moves sometime next year. While I'll miss not being on campus and able to attending all the various things they have for employees, like the food trucks and Farmer's Market, the new office will be much, much closer to home. Plus, the parking there is free.

Downside, there's a dearth of places to get lunch if you don't bring your own. Which I do, most of the time. I hope we have a nice kitchen/break room.
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93. WeatherWise
2:58 PM GMT on April 10, 2014
Hi there, Sandi and fellow bloggers! I know there has bee quite a bit of discussion about the look of BETA, etc. And I have been thinking oh, I will just accept the look as not really a choice! Boy, was I ever wrong! This morning, I awakened my computer to one of those going to restart your computer in so many minutes for upgrade or restart now. I clicked restart now. Well, when it came back up - EVERYTHING had changed! I don't LIKE the LOOK of my whole computer! Everything is all WHITE! I tried switching it to CLASSIC not WU but in the control panel but then everything was all switched it back to all white but I surely do not like Windows' latest upgrade and what it did to the look of my whole computer! Anyone relating to what I am talking about?

It is going to be a beautiful day in VA! I should get out for an early walk! Or maybe head to the Riverwalk! Have a wonderful day!
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92. GardenGrrl
2:46 PM GMT on April 10, 2014
Good Morning. Having one of those so much to do days, where did I store this stuff from last year, hunt through the junk room, get distracted, twirl around, find something else, can't find what I think I bought last year.....

So, might as well catch up on WUville. Then I will make a list of the things I can't find and go to Home Depot and buy them along with a few things I know I don't have but need for the yard.

We are also having a carpet sales person come this evening with all their samples to pick out new carpeting.
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91. sandiquiz
10:28 AM GMT on April 10, 2014
Quoting 90. Ylee:
Is HE, C? If so, good for him!

Hi Ylee, yes, C began his new job this week, after only three weeks since the interview. Usually all the checks take five to six weeks, but they rushed it through, as they needed him. The beauty if it is, he is a only five minutes away from work, and if the car decided not to start one morning, he could walk there in 25 minutes or so - so much better than the last job. He had a 40 minute train journey to London, a 20 minute tube ride across London, and then another 25 minute journey south of London, before a ten minute walk!!

Apart from the extra hour and half in bed in a morning, he has no travel expense apart from the car park fee, which he had anyway when he had to catch the train!

Glad to read you are not leaving us.... Just like Flickr changes, folks moaned and then left to go else where, but are gradually moving back:-)

Out to lunch now... BBL
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90. Ylee
9:29 AM GMT on April 10, 2014
Been away forever, it seems, with all the Beta talk and whatnot happening while I was gone! As for a PC, it seems Beta is geared for screens with a 1024x768 screen resolution, or better. My work screen is only 800x600, and if I unzoom to 75%, so the blog menus move from the bottom to the side, then the print becomes too small to read! :(

Don't worry about me moving the cam blog to WP. It would take a lot of work(albeit probably worth it) to make it look better, but then I'd lose most of the folks that would've seen it here, especially the many lurkers that come by.

Is HE, C? If so, good for him!
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89. sandiquiz
5:23 AM GMT on April 10, 2014
I love feeding the birds and watching them in the garden, but why does the blackbird have to sing his morning aria right outside my bedroom window!!! lol

SkyBlue - HE had a good day, says the guy he has to work with seems good fun, and the place is fantastic. There is a section in the middle that joins the offices called 'The Street' which has a few coffee places and small shops, including a M&S, from where he bought his sandwich at lunch time!
But the biggest laugh is his id badge.....just wait till you see it!

Hope the meeting for N, in the unusual place, was brief!!!

Shirley - thank you for your lovely sketch. No, I didn't draw any bird, but I did talk save real photos, lol..

Mike - I do live I an culdesac and yes, it is bedlam at times. The house on the corner has a strange set up, it seems like the family have family living with them, and at at times there are six cars, or vans, there. Then the other corner have four cars, with everyone else having two or three. It was fine when we came here twenty years ago, but all the little kiddies have grown up, got their own cars, but not left home! The girl next door is now 24, and still lives at home, much to her father's displeasure -he keeps trying to marry her off! lol

Ozgalah - I was watching a new TV show called Grand Designs, Australia, about folk who build their own homes, well, have them built. There was a couple having a three story building constructed on the hillside overlooking the bay, and it cost 3 million! Phew... There are some rich folk in Oz. Hope it doesn't get too wet.

JustFlyingThru - thank you for your comment :-)
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88. JustFlyingThru
11:53 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
So much of the worlds history occur within your country's border
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87. ozgalah
11:19 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
My favourite rose is also yellow, Helmut Schmidt, we have one plant and despite being able to propagate many of our other roses P has had no success in getting a cutting from it to grow. More rain due today everything is getting a little soggy!
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86. clearlakemike
2:46 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
Sandi, I am having the same problem. The start of a cataract in the right eye. I had thought maybe I had swam into a glob of radiation whilst swimming in the sea. Such a relief that is only a cataract.

Do you live in a cul-de-sac? Those can be crazy when neigbours have visiting cars. I think most American driveways only accommodate two cars also. Of course, where I live now you can park as many cars as you wish...anywhere, in running condition or not, lol. They just don't allow them to be parked on the street.
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85. WeatherWise
2:24 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
Hi Sandi! Just dropping by to see if you drew a picture of a bird yesterday!

In honor of Draw A Picture of a Bird Day, very late last night after going to bed but before falling asleep, I sketched a snowy owl. Just a simple drawing! Did you do a sketch?

Hope you had a Happy Draw a Picture of a Bird Day!
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84. SkyBlue17
1:17 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
Oh I am so glad HE started today!
The HE in a meeting the whole afternoon in a place the call the armpit! Hahaha I will tell you when we see you.
Yes, we will leave himself there and check in-thank you. I'm out in the garden (well, I was and am again, just needed water and a rest-those borders and weeds are awful this year, as if a weed gnome's been out and about!) and H is there wi me, playing Harry Potter. I am apparently Professor Sprout! :)) Planting mandrakes by all accounts..I thought they were mistake! Lol

Funny and sweet re your optician. But then you are a memorable person, in all the good ways! :))
Not so good though re your cataract. How often is it checked?
Have a lovely day!
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83. sandiquiz
12:34 PM GMT on April 09, 2014
Hi Linda,

I took a screen shot of the NUWU outdoor photo gallery and then again in Beta. It is the same on Tablet and PC, there is no difference. In NUWU, (and Classic I guess although I didn't check), the photos are each in a box of their own with some separation around them. Each one has its own territory. In Beta, they are all squashed together, and their width is determined by the pixel width of the image. They cover more space, but due to the small size of them, they look "on top of each other", because there is still the information down the side.

AND the page takes ages to open... I get the spinning circle for a good five seconds or more.

In Flickr, the bottom image, they do justify, ie fill to the edges, but they limit to three photos, so they look, and feel, better.

ADD - WU always have had a size height this looks out out proportion, but I expect you see what I mean.

Check the original here
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82. Thoughtsteader
11:47 AM GMT on April 09, 2014
Morning, Sandi ~ Glad to hear things went well at the eye doctor. Well, relatively well. Who likes hearing about cataracts? The good news is that they can be very slow growing. I'll be interested to get my report next Monday.

I have a question. I saw your comment on the developers' blog this morning, about the way photos are justified. What does that mean? I couldn't quite figure out where the thumbnails were, either. I could see in the galleries that a few were a little smaller than others, but it hardly was noticeable. Is it possible that there's another difference here between a regular monitor and a tablet, phone, etc.

How can I be such a dunce, to not know what it means to "justify" something? I suspect it's because I came to the computer through the internet rather than through programs like Word. But I don't know that for sure.

I see GG got plenty of rain, and we missed it all. Sigh. I'm hoping yesterday's strong winds were enough to knock most of the pollen off the trees.
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81. sandiquiz
6:12 AM GMT on April 09, 2014
Good morning,
Well, yesterday went fine, I had my eye test done by an ex pupil, to whom I taught Textiles 16 years ago!

He made me laugh as he filled in the optician form with my details, as he reminded me I had given him a handwriting book when he was 14, as his writing was so spidery it was difficult to read. I remember telling him if the examiners couldn't read what he had written he wouldn't pass his exams, even if he knew all the answers!
He told me that he still had the book I had given him! How sweet:-)

The outcome of the eye test is that the right eye had changed quite a bit, whereas the left eye hadn't, meaning my glasses were not suitable anymore. He also told me that I had the start of a cataract in my right eye..... Oh, the joys of getting old!!

Well, I ordered a new frame, paid for all the bells and whistles and then got my 25% off the total, so that was good. They will be ready in two to three weeks.

GG - a hummingbird? How wonderful. I have never seen one in the flash. The nearest we get is the hummingbird moth, which I have seen a couple of times.

YOR - I don't think you are alone in liking yellow/orange roses. My favourite of all time is the 'Peace' rose. It has the most beautiful perfume and when fully open is the size of a plate!
Dad grew them along the border in our first house, so I remember them well :-)
I love putting flowers in the house but haven't done so for a year, as I had a new, very inquisitive, kitten. Now he is a little older, I shall have to try again.

SkyBlue - I am so glad you managed to get in at the local inn, it is less than five minutes away. You could go and check in late afternoon, leaving young sir here, then come back to spend the rest of the evening with us. Almost like staying over, but not quite!! Lol
I am glad you had fun at the museum, I shall have to tell H about when I started school .... With a chalk board and chalk rather than books and pencils!! Lol
HE starts today....yippee!!

Shirley. - I am glad you got your walk in, but also glad you had company, as it was dark by the time you got home. Love you moon photo - it is great!!

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80. WeatherWise
2:23 AM GMT on April 09, 2014
Sandi, glad you had a pretty sunny day. Our day was pretty but was one of those days too busy to take it all in. I did get in a a very late walk - was completely dark by the time I got back home. I did have a friend with me so was okay until my last part of the walk home alone.
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79. SkyBlue17
8:40 PM GMT on April 08, 2014
Having my feet done....i.e. home pedicure courtesy of hubby-bliss! My feet were hurting after all the walking H and I did, but we had fun! H was so good;he didn't complain once of his heavy rucksack (we one each) and walked/skipped along merrily beside me. He is a treasure!
We had such fun in the museum, but only had time for half the contents and will come back soon for the other half. We were there for 3 hours, including a half hour lunch.
I had the same type of desk as you. I even showed H one like it. He thought it VERY odd to have to dip the pen in ink! :))
A few cinnamon buns it is! Lol
Hope he gets to start ASAP!

How did the appointment at the opticians go?
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78. YelloworangeRose
12:57 PM GMT on April 08, 2014
HI sandquiz,
I love all shades of roses but I love most the yellow orange. I used to ask someone every Monday to buy me Yellow rose or orange rose or yellow orange rose depending on what's available. Then It sits on my office desk. They are my work appetizer and once in a while glancing at them is a good distraction for stress. Like your Dad, I had a childhood friend who also love yellow orange rose too..He also had passed over (10 years ago). I guess i am one of the few women who loves these shade since others preferred red, pink and white. Thank you for sharing your stories and the photos. Have a nice day.
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77. GardenGrrl
10:05 AM GMT on April 08, 2014
Good Morning, we have had lot's of rain this week! It is going to be so pretty outside while I'm off.
It's understandable Brits spend at least six months of their lives talking about weather, it changes often much like it does in Texas.

We have a hummingbird again!
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76. sandiquiz
7:47 AM GMT on April 08, 2014
Morning All... we have sunshine!!!

For the first time this month the sun is actually shining out of a blue sky! The Saharan sand in the air has gone, and thing are clear again:)

- I don't blame you getting out and enjoying life whilst it is warm...but not hot. I know you do get really hot in the summer.

I read a great article the other day that said the Brits are always discussing weather, in fact, it said we spend almost six whole months of our life discussing the weather!! lol

Bug - it is five years since i got a new prescription, but I feel that the left eye is doing all the work. If I close my left eye my reading distance of the right eye requires me to extend my arm out as far as it will go before I can read clearly!!

Glad you recovered quickly from your work out ... and i am sure your halo is much more shiny, too:)

SkyBlue - I hope you had a good evening in London with C and R and have another day of fun planned.
As said in the imessage - only a couple of Cinnamon buns for his Lordship, please! {Who at this moment, is driving down the M3 with all the other idiots rushing to work! I do hope they say tomorrow he can start in MK!}

Mike - I now understand about the vehicles. We have two, but the house in the corner who share our drive....grrr.... have four family members each with a car! When they have visitors it is bedlam out there! British drives were built to take only two cars!!

Will reply to your mail over in Flickr later.... :)

Briar - I do hope you won't leave when the latest upgrade of WU arrives... They are constantly tweaking it, and it is beginning to look much better. I even had a mail from one of the production team asking me if I would look at the weather maps and check the colour of the font, to see if I thought they needed to tweak it more. So far only the weather maps font has been tweaked, but all will be deeper and stronger in colour before they finish.

I am glad you checked out Flickr. Thanks for the comments. You see, once they had finished Beta testing, you are happier with the result. I've got used to it now, and find it much quicker than the old version.


Laundry load beeping at me... so I will go and hang it out to dry! Bliss!

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75. BriarCraft
11:29 PM GMT on April 07, 2014
Got a bit of catching up to do here, I see. A lot has happened in 3 days.

Saharan sand? Oh my! Poor Oscar.

Quoting 46. Thoughtsteader:
But, I still use classic. If they take the classic away, I'll probably I may be gone, except to stop by and visit. I don't have to adjust to everything in the world, and I don't have to go with the flow if the flow doesn't please me! ;)

I read in a couple of places in the WUproductteam blog that they are planning on keeping Classic, but it looks like NuWU will go bye-bye when Beta goes live. When that happens, I may be gone, too. Although I prefer Classic and always will, I have been using NuWU most of the time. When NuWU goes, I'll have no choice but to revert to Classic or leave, as there is very little about Beta that I like.

I gather that Flickr is being changed around again. I'll have to go take a look. Their last change drove me away. (Opened another tab, took a look, and commented on one of your photos.) I have to say it's better for me than the last time I was there. Load times are a bit faster than they were and, best of all, thumbnails are back. I may switch over to posting my photos on Flickr.

You've got a busy, but fun week planned. I hope you enjoy every minute of it!
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74. clearlakemike
3:39 PM GMT on April 07, 2014
Yeah, keep taking that ibuprofen, Bug, for another day or will be ok.

Sandi, between the two of us we have three vehicles. A pick-up truck, a medium size SUV and a sports car. We got a third of an inch of rain yesterday so I didn't get out and polish the top of the SUV. Instead, I ventured over to WP and created a blog. I saw Briar over there and she welcomed me to WP. Enjoy your winter. I guess it is better than Saharan sand and you might not have to wash Oscar!
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73. palmettobug53
2:41 PM GMT on April 07, 2014
Oh, BTW.... I am fine after my workout Friday. A bit stiff first thing in the a.m. in the lower back and the backs of my legs. From all the bending over, I suppose. Once I'm up and moving around, it goes away.
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72. SkyBlue17
2:21 PM GMT on April 07, 2014
Hey...invaded by the Essex crew?? Hmmmmmm. 😄
We're in the hotel in London now, H and I. Resting up before the busy evening. We are going out for dinner and fun with C and R.

Tomorrow, Madam Tussaud's and a few other places.
So opticians tomorrow? Wish everything goes well. :)

Any requests for us to bring anything special? I will bake some cinnamon buns/kanel bullar and bring that.

Have a great rest of the Monday! :))
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71. palmettobug53
12:55 PM GMT on April 07, 2014
Goodness, Sandi, you do have a busy week planned.

I see you said something at Linda's (?) about probably needing new glasses this time. I hope you find a glamorous and flattering set of frames. Your optician has an 'over 60' club? I don't think any of the ones here do that. It never hurts to ask, though.
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70. GardenGrrl
9:57 AM GMT on April 07, 2014
Good Morning. Those windows really are nice. They should help with the energy efficiency as well. You are going to be so pleased with your energy bills now that the main insulation has been done.
We are having a busy week as well. Better weather more getting out until the hot comes.
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69. sandiquiz
6:36 AM GMT on April 07, 2014
Hi Bug - I am glad you can walk...but beware, they say the second day after strenuous exercise is always the worst!! lol

Mike - I am glad you adore your French Flickr :-)
This morning it is even wetter and colder and miserable, with the forecast for the week as cold and damp! I believe we have had our Spring in March! now we are back to winter!!

As yet, I have not washed Oscar, but if this rain keeps up, I won't need to!

Did I see somewhere you said you had CARS, as in plural, to polish? How many do you have??

Hi Shirley, I am very pleased with my new window, so much so, I am thinking of saving up to have the rest done. Not that they have condensation in the glazing, but that the new one looks so good, and no painting needed!

Hello YOR (I saw someone else call you that in your blog when I went to have a look). I am glad you are venturing out and leaving comments in others' blogs. To be a member for so long, but not post in the blogs, now is the time to be adventurous! :-)
I have a yellow orange rise in y garden. It is called Whiskey Mac, and planted in remembrance of my dad, as it was his favourite rose.

- Happy belated birthday! Hope you had fun:-)
I think I would be like you if I saw a snake in my garden, too. I suppose the 'thingie' is similar to the device you can put in your garden to keep out moles. Not that moles can be compared to snakes!!
Talking of snakes, I have never seen so many photos of Adders being posted to my Birds and Wildlife group in Flickr. They are not in this area, not warm enough, but there certainly seems to be many down in Dorset and Sussex!!


Monday morning and the start of a new week. It is also a busy week.

Home today - who would want to go out in this rain - then tomorrow the opticians. Wednesday I am making a "writing" day, as I haven't done much on the Family Story for a couple of weeks. Thursday I am out to lunch with my Thursday friend, and then Friday I am out for lunch again with an ex colleague from school.
Finally, Saturday, all being well, I am being invaded by the Essex
Looking forward to a good gossip and chat, as well as good company!!

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68. ozgalah
5:43 AM GMT on April 07, 2014
Great bumble bee Sandi! Have only had to time to have a quick read over the last week but Geddy is asleep in the dog run with the big dogs so I am taking advantage of the chance to catch up! Also last week I officially became another year older and as they say probably deeper in debt, well birthday dinner wasn't THAT expensive!
We had another snake in the garden on Friday which was a little disconcerting, it slithered off into the flower border but it has made me nervous again, I think we will have to invest in some snake deterrent "thingies" (not sure what you call them) they pulse and the snakes don't like it but never sure if these things work or not.
I have a little box in the corner of my screen that says try our Beta but I haven't touched it yet!!!
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67. YelloworangeRose
9:06 PM GMT on April 06, 2014

Hi Sandi, I saw your post at Weatherwise and thought of visiting your blog. You have a nice blog and loved your post about the war of the roses. your blog is very informative and I learned a lot from it. I thought i would stroll around and read other blogs and learn more. Have a great evening.. I'll stop by when i am back from work.

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