Wednesday's Question of the Day

By: ricderr , 8:25 PM GMT on July 03, 2013

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Have you noticed the silence surrounding Paula Dean finally. Her fifteen minutes of infamy appears to be over. Of course her show, cookbooks and endorsements are also over. We'll just have to see if she can manage a comeback. It did provide Jessica and myself some great conversation as she tried to explain the ramifications of our societal change from self governance of right and wrong and to today's choice of societal governance.

This brings us to a hoopla going around the blogs as a moderator I believe, told someone to quit their "Bitchin". Yes, I can use that word, at least I hope I can seeing that a moderator did. I've read the differing comments and through e-mails I've heard one say no problem, to another saying it was offensive and should result in a ban. I personally have no problem with the word itself except that I feel it shouldn't be used by those with an official title as it is an inflammatory word and I don't feel moderators should be inflammatory. So I ask you the QOD:


Is the word BITCHIN acceptable to use in blogs and / or in public?

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47. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
2:39 PM GMT on July 19, 2013
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46. mikatnight
3:12 PM GMT on July 11, 2013
Bitchin'...

is a word.

Words are used for different purposes.

To be offended by a word without mal-intent, is nothing more than tilting at windmills...

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45. Appalachiangypsy
2:11 AM GMT on July 07, 2013
Unacceptable, at least after 1989. ;)
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44. Naga5000
3:17 AM GMT on July 05, 2013
Quoting 35. daddyjames:


Did you have to get all sociological on us? You unleashed Naga in a new way ;)

Then again, I was Bingo'd by him . . . :D


To be fair, my sociology is what caused a big kerfuffel on Dr. M's blog the other night and made a bunch of people angry at me. :)
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43. tkeith
3:29 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting ricderr:
I think the moderators are a good thing...in moderation


yeppers...i think every now and then we'll have to slap em around some...and remember {{ typing inside double lines, the mods can't read it...you can say anything you want about them rotten scoundrels...getting paid big bucks to do nothing...and they'll never know you said it}}
thanks for the heads up on the {{ }} thing Ric...that'll come in handy :)
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42. ricderr
3:26 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
I think the moderators are a good thing...in moderation


yeppers...i think every now and then we'll have to slap em around some...and remember {{ typing inside double lines, the mods can't read it...you can say anything you want about them rotten scoundrels...getting paid big bucks to do nothing...and they'll never know you said it}}
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41. tkeith
3:14 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
Ric you've gotten 40 comments on Wednsesday QOD.

That's bitchen!

So...kwitchyerbitchen :)

I think the moderators are a good thing...in moderation
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40. airman45
1:52 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
As mentioned earlier, a bitch is a female dog, and the word is widely used in the U.K. It is not a bad word.

Now for an English lesson. Bitch is a NOUN. Bitchin' is a VERB. Any English teachers out there agree with this?

Anyway, I use bitchin' at work every day!!

As in "Quit your b......!!". I work with a bunch of whiney crybaby Americans who come over here for a few years and bi... about how "It is not like the States." Well, of course not, dummy. You are in a different country. I enjoy working with our German employees so much more. Sure, they have their everyday complaints, like anyone else. But it is not usually stupid stuff just to hear themselves talk.

So, come over here and enjoy your time in Europe! Quit your bitchin' and go out and experience the European way of life.
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39. ricderr
1:31 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
I bet you personally like the use of mods..you haven't had blog fodder like this in years:)

actually Skye, I recently graduated from the Patrap School of Blogging and now can successfully blog.


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38. GlennPaw
12:29 PM GMT on July 04, 2013
We're all bozo's on this bus; so live it or live with it.
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37. Alleyoops
11:19 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
I'm old school and yes I have used the word "bitchin" before and will probably use it again when I hear people whine about BS. What I find offensive and still has full run in society is the name calling for people of size. They are the most discriminated people now days and folks of African decent can attest to that. Today's society turns a blind eye to the crap that is said to people of size but low and behold don't use the N word which I agree is nasty or say something derogatory about Jewish folks, Asians and other immigrants. Still you will hear some derogatory remarks being made about Hispanics and Native Americans. When will the BS stop. If the laws are for one, then they should apply to ALL.
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36. sp34n119w
7:41 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Naga5000
Sure, have some points :) Don't know how I missed the video but glad I'm not the only one who thought of it!

I don't rank even as high as “amateur” in sociology but consider myself quite the accomplished spouter-offer on any number of subjects, lol

daddyjames
Hey, how was I to know? Worked out well enough ;)
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35. daddyjames
5:35 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 32. sp34n119w:
Just going to get a little sociological here for a minute …


Did you have to get all sociological on us? You unleashed Naga in a new way ;)

Then again, I was Bingo'd by him . . . :D
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34. Naga5000
4:36 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 32. sp34n119w:
Just going to get a little sociological here for a minute …
Some words are “bad” because they refer to body parts or bodily functions that nice people don't talk about. Whatever.
A word like “bitchin'”, in the context in which it was used, is “bad” for a different reason.
Once, while playing pool with a bunch of friends, one white guy jokingly called another white guy the “n-word”. I said that wasn't okay and he said it was because no black people happened to be in hearing distance and anyway it was just a joke. Unfortunately, who hears it and whether or not anyone is offended is not the problem. Problem is, historically and currently the “n-word” was/is used to refer to a group of people who are considered by many in our society to be inferior, less-than, easily dismissed, and of low value. That's what makes it effective as an insult, even a joking insult. We can't get away from that, no matter how many rappers shout it from our headphones.
The word “bitchin'” is derived from a word that was and is used to refer to a group of people who are considered by many in our society to be inferior, less-than, easily dismissed, and of low value. It is an effective insult for this reason. Most men, in particular, do not want to be called anything that suggests they are acting in a feminine manner. Even most women don't want to be seen as that stereotypical woman who complains and nags all the time.
Both race-based and gender-based slurs (and their derivatives) are used to demean someone by comparing them to a denigrated group, and using those words even casually or jokingly perpetuates the cultural beliefs about that group. Usually it will also cause the person thus slurred to shut up in order to avoid being perceived in such a way – and effective but crude method of argument.
So, whether he is consciously aware of it or not (I'd guess not), the way Keeper used “bitchin'” is a way to demean the person he was responding to, rather than simply a directive or request to stop complaining. For this reason, I feel that that is inappropriate. There are other words that get the supposed point across which don't rely on placing someone in an out-group to insult them (along with members of the group in which they were placed).
I could go on (and on...) but I just recently became aware of this aspect of the “b-word” and don't think I understand it well enough (and I'm having a heck of a time getting it out of my regular vocabulary, my own self, LOL).

I have no idea how it came to also mean something extra cool. That has got to have some separate etymology. If it weren't otherwise offensive to some (includes a bodily function word, lol) I'd post a video of The Dead Milkmen's Bitchin' Camaro just so that I wouldn't be the only one with it running through my head!


As an actual sociologist, I all ready posted "Bitchin Camaro" at post 5. Bonus points? :)
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33. Naga5000
4:18 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 21. ricderr:
ok....3 points...


first....since i'm not a mod..nor do i know the rules mods are required to follow...then..i can only use what i feel would be the best judgement....and i take mod...as moderate....so.....in the situation i referenced...would "complain," or maybe moan," have been a better choice?

second...aubie...you state "we're all bloggers...and to a point that is very true...but if you and i decided to go on a verbal tirade against each other...i'd assume we would both receive a ban...and after a time both come back, but would you come back as a mod?...if yes...then your statement is true...if not...then we're not just all "bloggers"

third.....naga...this is not bitchin or complaining..or denegrating our mods here...i personally like the use of mods......my question is just as i asked and what i am looking for....do we...as a collective society here...feel comfortable with the word bitchin as appropriate....


Oh man. I'm totally game to give you an actual response from my actual perspective. Let's rock.

Bitch itself, is a gendered term. The use of words such as bitched, bitching, or the like are completely irrelevant. The term bitch itself refers to either a women, in a derogatory sense, or a man in a sense that takes away masculinity.

Calling a women a bitch is offensive and reprehensible, as you are actually making a direct reference to a female dog for breeding. Making reference to a man as a bitch, is generally to take away manhood (i.e. remove manliness) or insult someones manhood for the same reasoning. In the slang, bitch is used to insult women or to remove masculinity, in the daily usage, the deep meaning is removed.

Bitch is a bad word, to bitch or the act of bitching or to have bitched about an issue is perfectly okay, as the negative connotation does not exist in that context. However, to refer to one as a bitch or to claim bitch like behavior, is gendered and offensive and I can't get behind it.
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32. sp34n119w
1:50 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Just going to get a little sociological here for a minute …
Some words are “bad” because they refer to body parts or bodily functions that nice people don't talk about. Whatever.
A word like “bitchin'”, in the context in which it was used, is “bad” for a different reason.
Once, while playing pool with a bunch of friends, one white guy jokingly called another white guy the “n-word”. I said that wasn't okay and he said it was because no black people happened to be in hearing distance and anyway it was just a joke. Unfortunately, who hears it and whether or not anyone is offended is not the problem. Problem is, historically and currently the “n-word” was/is used to refer to a group of people who are considered by many in our society to be inferior, less-than, easily dismissed, and of low value. That's what makes it effective as an insult, even a joking insult. We can't get away from that, no matter how many rappers shout it from our headphones.
The word “bitchin'” is derived from a word that was and is used to refer to a group of people who are considered by many in our society to be inferior, less-than, easily dismissed, and of low value. It is an effective insult for this reason. Most men, in particular, do not want to be called anything that suggests they are acting in a feminine manner. Even most women don't want to be seen as that stereotypical woman who complains and nags all the time.
Both race-based and gender-based slurs (and their derivatives) are used to demean someone by comparing them to a denigrated group, and using those words even casually or jokingly perpetuates the cultural beliefs about that group. Usually it will also cause the person thus slurred to shut up in order to avoid being perceived in such a way – and effective but crude method of argument.
So, whether he is consciously aware of it or not (I'd guess not), the way Keeper used “bitchin'” is a way to demean the person he was responding to, rather than simply a directive or request to stop complaining. For this reason, I feel that that is inappropriate. There are other words that get the supposed point across which don't rely on placing someone in an out-group to insult them (along with members of the group in which they were placed).
I could go on (and on...) but I just recently became aware of this aspect of the “b-word” and don't think I understand it well enough (and I'm having a heck of a time getting it out of my regular vocabulary, my own self, LOL).

I have no idea how it came to also mean something extra cool. That has got to have some separate etymology. If it weren't otherwise offensive to some (includes a bodily function word, lol) I'd post a video of The Dead Milkmen's Bitchin' Camaro just so that I wouldn't be the only one with it running through my head!
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31. LowerCal
1:04 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 29. Patrap:
LOL! I get it Pat.
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30. theshepherd
1:01 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
ooops...wrong blog

Had yakuzzi on my brain.

:)


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29. Patrap
12:56 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
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28. Skyepony (Mod)
12:51 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 26. LowerCal:


I wouldn't use the word on the blogs. In my upbringing it was crude or vulgar. I do think "complain," or maybe moan," would be a better choice if only for being less denigrating and inflammatory.

That said the champions of the word are on fairly firm ground. I checked five online American dictionaries and they rate it from "Informal" to "Very Informal" to "Slang" but none rate it "Offensive".


The amount of research I've had to do to discern the variances of different borderline slang to down right curse words, in several languages, should be noted somewhere..
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27. Skyepony (Mod)
12:47 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
derr~ would "complain," or maybe moan," have been a better choice
oh completely, as noted in my example but bitchin does mean the same thing so why string anyone up over it if "complaining" is acceptable?

On your second point.. people here have been given second chances & allowed to blog because we bear this mod thing & when people go off the rails we don't forever ban you because you had a bad week & accidentally let that rage out here, we give you a second & some of you I've lost count..... so why shouldn't we be given 2nd chance? Wouldn't that be fair for the argument situation you raise?

I bet you personally like the use of mods..you haven't had blog fodder like this in years:)


Quoting 17. seflagamma:
I guess I have been away from WU a lot in the past 2 years...

I had no idea we now had "moderators" and my old pals
Skye and Aubie are some of the Mods! LOL

I am so out of the loop around here these days....
and in years past I knew everything going on here on WU!!!

You must be in classic.. Anyone in classic.WUnderground can't see us marked as mods:)
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26. LowerCal
12:46 AM GMT on July 04, 2013
Quoting 21. ricderr:
ok....3 points...


first....since i'm not a mod..nor do i know the rules mods are required to follow...then..i can only use what i feel would be the best judgement....and i take mod...as moderate....so.....in the situation i referenced...would "complain," or maybe moan," have been a better choice?

second...aubie...you state "we're all bloggers...and to a point that is very true...but if you and i decided to go on a verbal tirade against each other...i'd assume we would both receive a ban...and after a time both come back, but would you come back as a mod?...if yes...then your statement is true...if not...then we're not just all "bloggers"

third.....naga...this is not bitchin or complaining..or denegrating our mods here...i personally like the use of mods......my question is just as i asked and what i am looking for....do we...as a collective society here...feel comfortable with the word bitchin as appropriate....


I wouldn't use the word on the blogs. In my upbringing it was considered crude or vulgar. I do think "complain," or maybe moan," would be a better choice if only for being less denigrating and inflammatory.

That said the champions of the word are on fairly firm ground. I checked five online American dictionaries and they rate it from "Informal" to "Very Informal" to "Slang" but none rate it "Offensive".
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25. seflagamma
11:18 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 18. weatherguy03:


Kind of scary thinking of Aubie as a Moderator!..LOL


rofl, Bob that was my thoughts.. he use to be the one that got in trouble all the time! LOL
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24. ihave27windows
11:08 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 22. StAugustineFL:
Personally I have no issue with the word. In general, I tend to think of this as another example of American society becoming a bunch of pansies. For example, when I was in school and did something punishable, rest assured a teacher would pull me out in the hallway and beat my rear end with a paddle. Do that today and you'll have a lawsuit on your hands. Same goes with taking a belt to your childs' rear. Nowadays they're put in "time out"

For those who say "words will offend the children".....I was swearing like a sailor in 6th grade. My home was small town midwestern "pure" USA. If folks think youngsters haven't heard or used such language, they're fooling themselves. And if someone of elementary age were to be blogging here (not sure anyone is THAT young), then the parents need a kick in the pants.


This is true...boys in particular learn to cuss at an early age.
My Howie came home from school in the Spring with a note from his teacher. Evidently some girls in PE really got on his nerves so he shouted at them, "Girls suck balls!". Now, I can assure you he did not learn this at home. I hope he didn't anyway =P haha
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23. auburn (Mod)
11:05 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 19. theshepherd:


I heard ya'll get cake.




We don't
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hahaha...Yea I wish.
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22. StAugustineFL
11:03 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Personally I have no issue with the word. In general, I tend to think of this as another example of American society becoming a bunch of pansies. For example, when I was in school and did something punishable, rest assured a teacher would pull me out in the hallway and beat my rear end with a paddle. Do that today and you'll have a lawsuit on your hands. Same goes with taking a belt to your childs' rear. Nowadays they're put in "time out"

For those who say "words will offend the children".....I was swearing like a sailor in 6th grade. My home was small town midwestern "pure" USA. If folks think youngsters haven't heard or used such language, they're fooling themselves. And if someone of elementary age were to be blogging here (not sure anyone is THAT young), then the parents need a kick in the pants.
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21. ricderr
10:44 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
ok....3 points...


first....since i'm not a mod..nor do i know the rules mods are required to follow...then..i can only use what i feel would be the best judgement....and i take mod...as moderate....so.....in the situation i referenced...would "complain," or maybe moan," have been a better choice?

second...aubie...you state "we're all bloggers...and to a point that is very true...but if you and i decided to go on a verbal tirade against each other...i'd assume we would both receive a ban...and after a time both come back, but would you come back as a mod?...if yes...then your statement is true...if not...then we're not just all "bloggers"

third.....naga...this is not bitchin or complaining..or denegrating our mods here...i personally like the use of mods......my question is just as i asked and what i am looking for....do we...as a collective society here...feel comfortable with the word bitchin as appropriate....
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20. misanthrope
9:53 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Personally, I think the word lynch is a lot more inflammatory than bitchin'. Probably just me.

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19. theshepherd
9:39 PM GMT on July 03, 2013

Quoting 16. auburn:
although we are Mods..we are still bloggers just like everyone else.

I heard ya'll get cake.




We don't
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18. weatherguy03
9:38 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 17. seflagamma:
I guess I have been away from WU a lot in the past 2 years...

I had no idea we now had "moderators" and my old pals
Skye and Aubie are some of the Mods! LOL

I am so out of the loop around there these days....
and in years past I knew everything going on here on WU!!!


Kind of scary thinking of Aubie as a Moderator!..LOL
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17. seflagamma
9:30 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
I guess I have been away from WU a lot in the past 2 years...

I had no idea we now had "moderators" and my old pals
Skye and Aubie are some of the Mods! LOL

I am so out of the loop around here these days....
and in years past I knew everything going on here on WU!!!
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16. auburn (Mod)
9:24 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
although we are Mods..we are still bloggers just like everyone else.
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15. Naga5000
9:17 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 14. Skyepony:
You've already seen my answer.. but in regards to your entry..

...feel it shouldn't be used by those with an official title...


This is my official title noted here on Angela's blog by an admin..


Angela's Blog
Earth Day 2013: Waiting to Get Fracked
Posted by: Angela Fritz, 5:25 AM GMT on April 22, 2013 +25
By Skyepony, Weather Underground Community member



The way Keeper used it wouldn't normally be tolerated by members..but there's back to your other question.. So i'm suppose to take it as a mod but not dish it? In Keeper's Canadian/what have you talk he said the same as I see you are generally unhappy & nothing I or anyone says will make anything better for you. You've really taken to just nit picking & complaining about every thing I do or say. Could for everyone's sake & so I might could post some weather maybe try & have more constructive thoughts? Should that comment be disallowed, by a mod that has someone whining at them at every turn when they could be clearing spam or posting weather?



I've said it before, but I'll say it again.. I think you guys (the mods) take way too much grief here. I've been a part of other communities with a strict "no mod sass" rule. Violation of that rule means a ban. I'm not suggesting you all go that far, but there is way too much bitching about mods here.

See what I did there?
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14. Skyepony (Mod)
9:13 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
You've already seen my answer.. but in regards to your entry..

...feel it shouldn't be used by those with an official title...


This is my official title noted here on Angela's blog by an admin..


Angela's Blog
Earth Day 2013: Waiting to Get Fracked
Posted by: Angela Fritz, 5:25 AM GMT on April 22, 2013 25
By Skyepony, Weather Underground Community member



The way Keeper used it wouldn't normally be tolerated by members only because you are discourage someone to post ..but there's back to your other question.. So i'm suppose to take it as a mod but not dish it? In Keeper's Canadian/what have you talk he said the same as I see you are generally unhappy & nothing I or anyone says will make anything better for you. You've really taken to just nit picking & complaining about every thing I do or say. Could for everyone's sake & so I might could post some weather maybe try & have more constructive thoughts? Should that comment be disallowed, by a mod that has someone whining at them at every turn when they could be clearing spam or posting weather?

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13. theshepherd
9:10 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
I was a teenager in the 60s.
And it was like way cool of a bitchin time back then.
Now that I'm retired, I'm like having way cool of a bitchin time now.

I don't use the word around my 9yoa grandson, though I wouldn't hesitate to use it around my 20yoa granddaughter.

I'm waiting for my 9yoa grandson to do something really bitchin.

Then I'll probably use it.


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11. seflagamma
9:01 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Stop your bitching... aka complaining and whining...

just saying.. ok in my book.

Just don't call anyone a "b----"

that could be a problem for some...




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10. NavarreMark
8:57 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 9. weatherguy03:
Now if you say, you are a ****** bitch, then thats a problem..lol But Bitchin' Come on Ric!..lol Then again this is a Liberal P.C kind of website so maybe its not ok.


Howdy Bob.

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9. weatherguy03
8:51 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Now if you say, you are a ****** bitch, then thats a problem..lol But Bitchin' Come on Ric!..lol Then again this is a Liberal P.C kind of website so maybe its not ok.
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8. NavarreMark
8:45 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
There will always be somebody offended by almost anything thats said, but you can't walk on egg shells your whole life, so say what ya think.

Within reason of course.
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7. Naga5000
8:45 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Quoting 6. daddyjames:
The accepted meaning - and the social context (for good or bad) has evolved over the years. Look at its use on regular US tv programming, along with the word "ass".

I personally do not take offense to the word "bitching", as it is not a personal attack on the other individual.

Now, if you said "You are a _____" that is a different story.


Bingo!
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6. daddyjames
8:44 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
The accepted meaning - and the social context (for good or bad) has evolved over the years. Look at its use on regular US tv programming, along with the word "ass".

I personally do not take offense to the word "bitching", as it is not a personal attack on the other individual.

Now, if you said "You are a _____" that is a different story.
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5. Naga5000
8:37 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
It's fine.

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4. ihave27windows
8:33 PM GMT on July 03, 2013


I can dig it this way!
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3. ricderr
8:31 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
Might I add.....to most that know me...you know this to be true...and to those new...please accept the following...there are no right or wrong answers...only the answers you choose to feel closely aligned to....we may all not agree...but we can all get along during our disagreements
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2. ricderr
8:29 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
thanx astro...your input is appreciated....
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1. Astrometeor
8:28 PM GMT on July 03, 2013
No. It is widely accepted as a swear word and should be treated as such on blogs. Personal opinions about exceptions should not be allowed to rule over the common perception.
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