STRIKING FOR AN ANSWER

By: ricderr , 5:46 PM GMT on April 20, 2008

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STRIKING FOR AN ANSWER

To preface this post, it is not intended as an attack on anyone, nor is it a cause to disrupt any segment of the WU community. Those that I blog with I enjoy their company. Those that I do not should be afforded the same opportunities that I do and we all should enjoy these opportunities fairly.

Things are not fair and although I am not a member of administration nor do they ask for my opinions when making decisions, as a paying customer and a supporter of their advertisers I believe that I should have a right to make my feelings, thoughts and opinions known as long as I can proceed in a respectful manner.


POINT #1
Blogger A receives a permanent ban for violations of WU policies and comes back under another name. This person's posting mannerisms and subjects are the same and it’s quite evident who this blogger is. Blogger A is allowed to keep posting under this name

Blogger B receives a permanent ban for violations of WU policies and comes back under another name. This person's posting mannerisms and subjects are the same and it’s quite evident who this blogger is. Blogger B is allowed to keep posting under this name until this person decides to tell the truth and reveal themselves. Blogger B is then Banned once again.

Now one possible answer would be for administration to ban Blogger A and we’d have fairness and seeing that I’m not a fan of Blogger A I would guess most people will assume that is what I’m asking for. I’m not. Both Blogger A & B came back and respected the rules and regulations set forth by administration and have demonstrated a willingness to contribute to the WU community. Isn’t this what Administration wants and we must not forget that administration has the ability to read ISP’s and I expect knows the past records of A & B, so either we have a bad policy or bad administration and I believe it is the first and not the latter.

I believe that both blogger A & B should have the opportunity to post on this site and I do have a creative solution. Since time is money and an aspect of this site is to pay a dividend to it’s owners, why not ban the ISP and charge a monetary fee for reinstatement, thus paying administration for their time involved.

Please reinstate Peachtree/Amy


POINT #2

Blogger C has a past for posting questionable material that administration feels is not in the best interest of its site and after repeated warnings finds a picture that they deem to not be appropriate and gives Blogger C a 30 day ban. The picture though, although at first glance may be racy and at first glance may be misconstrued as a picture of a naked lady. A naked lady, without any anatomical detail showing and could as easily pass for an alien than a lady and is indeed a picture of a forearm and a thumb on a fishing reel. It’s evident to me that this is a rush to judgment on administrations part and I would have to question if negative emotions played a part in this banning.

I would ask that you lift the ban of Mister Perfect after further review.

Point #3

With a growing blogging community in an effort to allow members to not have to wade through innapropriate content, administration offers a button to flag inappropriate posts. At first glance this appears to be a useful tool but it soon becomes evident that this can be used as a tool for cyber bullying. Any one or groups of people can use this tool to harass another poster. Also, it is now not possible for an offending blogger to know if the work removed from the site is against administrations policies or just viewed negatively by other bloggers and their motives might be in question. Therefore, how can a ban be effective and if the main point is to make sure blogging post fit under the rules and regulation can you truly know if it’s a violation of administrations policies? You’ve effectively eliminated the ability to question personal responsibility.

I ask that the flag button be removed and bloggers be allowed to use at their discretion and responsibility the ignore function and personal blog ban function


Point #4

Blogger D posts a blog subject that could be interpreted as an attack on members of the community, however it is innocuous in it’s wording that it could be directed at anyone anywhere. In fact, although very mean spirited and contentious on first look, when defined it actually means they would do nothing because the subject matter is not worth it. Also, this blogger sets their blog to not allow comments thus making sure there can not be a blog war over the subject. Blogger D receives a permanent ban

Blogger E posts a blog with a humorous joke that uses a word that by itself has negative sexual connotations. It’s double entendre at its worst. Blogger E has their post removed and can continue to blog.

Administration should have the right to limit what content they deem offensive, however their penalty should be based on facts and not their perceptions as they may not necessarily be correct. Also, in fairness and that is a very important issue to me, the penalty should be in keeping with others meted out on this site.

I ask that administration reinstate Ihave27windows

Lastly may I say, I truly enjoy this site. I enjoy the opportunity it allows me to post my “Question of the Day” and I enjoy many people that I come in contact with. I believe that with the Ignore and Ban features that administration has established, the responsibility of “having fun” is mine. I have no excuses to say that I can’t enjoy myself on this site with the tools at hand and I feel that applies to everyone else in this community. If administration will focus on making sure people utilize their tools as solutions instead of looking for problems we will all enjoy this site better.

RicDerr

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141. sullivanweather
10:42 AM GMT on April 22, 2008


HAPPY EARTH DAY!
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140. sp34n119w
9:49 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
134. bbrain2008
Well it seems that if something flagged then those not signed in don't see it.


Are you maybe confusing flagging with the +/- buttons?
Set your filter to "Show All" and everyone who is not banned will show up. Then you can hide individuals, if you like.
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138. sp34n119w
9:43 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
#124 Okay, that makes sense, PB - thanks.
I've never been an admin so I don't know if it annoys them to have multiple flags showing on a person or blog. I mean, it's not like there's a crowd of people standing in the office screaming at them, is it? And, I'd like to think they have enough judgement to tell the difference between an unpopular opinion and a truly obscene or disruptive comment.
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137. bigtrucker
9:41 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
i dont like to see ANYONE get banned...
Admin, reinstate all, and stop infringing on our freedoms as bloggers to speak our minds.
Well written!!
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135. birdofpray
9:40 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
127. PBG00 4:24 PM CDT on April 21, 2008
Too bad there is not a flagged by message..then the power of anonymity would be gone.


Excellent idea Goo...you so mart...LOL
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128. PBG00
9:25 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Hi BB..
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127. PBG00
9:24 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Too bad there is not a flagged by message..then the power of anonymity would be gone.
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125. PBG00
9:24 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
They flagged you for Moby Dick??Jimmy Carter I understand...LOL
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124. PBG00
9:23 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
I would assume that the case is they check it out..but if these people are continually flagged..well wouldn't you just want to shut them up???I mean..why flag for other than porn or truly offensive posts or any non weather related post in the main blog? The answer? Control. It doesn't matter what we post. The ban defining post of MP's with the Cheney glasses was absurd..but then again, was it just the straw that broke the camels back of him pushing the limits? Who knows..the point is that the flaggers know that they keep flagging posts, they will get the result they want.
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122. sp34n119w
9:17 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
I've got a question about flagging just out of curiosity. Does lots of flags result in an automatic ban? That seems to be the implication of all the "take away the flag button" requests. I would think that flagging just brings something or someone to the attention of admin and that they then check it out and decide what to do about it, if anything.
Anyone know?
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119. PBG00
8:35 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
BB you could try to talk with him.....that could be a good idea.......I just think an appology from him would go a long way in restoring peace on these blogs.


Ric..sorry I just gotta comment on this one..

No it won't..his giving or not giving only affects one person..IE..I promised you I would chill, but don't make a blanket statement like that. The peace on this blog..or lack there of does in no way hinge on an apology from Odog..stop giving him so much power!(no offense odog)
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118. mbailey
8:30 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
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Bathroom project is coming along nicely. Can't wait until it is complete. I love doing this kind of work, very satisfying, but I'm weary of having the my bathroom out of commission. Threatened to build me an outhouse this weekend.
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117. mbailey
8:27 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Thank you ric. Thank you very much.
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115. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
8:25 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
ric this blog will be next to go watch
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114. mobal
8:25 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Hey Ric, Yea get any answers yet?
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113. ricderr
8:20 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
DROP THE DISCUSSION PLEASE.....

you've a beef with any "person"...please use your own blog to hash it out....
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111. IdiotExtraordinaire
8:18 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
110. bbrain2008 8:14 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Maybe I could speak to Odog, and he would apologize, if you would give him back his blog space that you took from him when he unearthed this ban/war against you so many posts ago


BB you could try to talk with him.....that could be a good idea.......I just think an appology from him would go a long way in restoring peace on these blogs.


However I think he is stilll sluking a bit about Emmy calling him out....but you could try.....I am still open to an appology and finally putting and end to this.....

Thanks for your offer BB!
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109. IdiotExtraordinaire
8:14 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
108. bbrain2008 8:11 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
I'm sorry for you IE. This ban thing is way out of control.

It's putting bloggers against each other.



I agree its really sad what he has done by putting Emmy in the middle of this.

But I just want everyone to know thta I am still freinds with Emmy.....reguardless of what bans she puts on me to make Odog happy.....

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107. IdiotExtraordinaire
8:11 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
106. bbrain2008 8:08 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Sounds like odog is after a green whale if you ask me.


Well he was.....but im sure he has seen the error of his ways.

Its clear the WU community is not going to stand for the ban campaigns any longer.....

I think his lack of an appology to me, at this point is more from sheer embarassment.....but as an adult he should realize the sooner he says "Sorry Ie" the sooner others will forgive him in the WU community.
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105. IdiotExtraordinaire
8:06 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
104. bbrain2008 8:04 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Why is ODOG upset with emmy?



She exposed his plan of trying to ban me from WU.....
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103. IdiotExtraordinaire
8:01 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
100. GulfScotsman 7:46 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
IE.

I was not refering to you in any way. If Odog or Emmy wants to ban you or ignore you they have the right to do so. Great tools put in place by admin.

You can ignore ODOG if you want. or Emmy. Or you can continue to Whine about things and get banned and ignored by a lot of people.


Yes GS I agree with you....Emmy and Odog have the right to ban me from their blog if they chose.

I have always considered Emmy a good freind on these blog and will continue to do so reguardless of her ban.

She is a sweet caring and good natured person.....and we need more folks like that in the world.

I always liked Odog too....while we might not have agreed with everything he said.....I respected his opinion....even if it differed from my own.

However it would be much easier to forgive Odog if he were to offer a simple appology for hurting my feelings.....but I guess for the moment he is still angry with me and emmy.

But I would never ban or ignore or even flag a person who just simply had a difffrent opinion than my own......sometimes if you keep an open mind you can learn things from others.

Thanks for always being my friend GS and helping me rationalize other peoples and my own imperfections :)
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99. IdiotExtraordinaire
7:43 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
98. bbrain2008 7:42 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
You can always Lean on me I.E.!


Thanks BB you are a true friend indeed! :)
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97. IdiotExtraordinaire
7:39 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
96. GulfScotsman 7:35 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
rules:

rules are just that rules. whether in the main blog or in the general blog.

it is generally accepted that rules are elastic, and stretch for those who wish to do a wide open public end run...

and it generally snaps back on a select few.


I agree GS....its obvious that I am being made an example of so that Emmy can get back in the good graces with Odog.

While I may not agree with Odog forceing Emmy to chose side.....I can understand her chooseing Odog he long time freind over me...:/

But It will not stop me from being her freind....and I do wish her the best in patching up her realtionship with Odog.


Dont worry Emmy I will still be here and still your freind after he forgives you :)

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95. IdiotExtraordinaire
7:33 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
Well EmmyRose banned me from her blog.....:/

Guess Odog is putting the heat on her.....:/

Guess I lost a freind.....I really like her and owe her for doing the right thing.


If it wasnt for Emmyrose I may have suffered the same fate as MP,Amy,27 and Nash.....

Emmy even if you dont like me....I still consider you a freind...:)

Hope we can be freinds even if Odog dosent want it....:/
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93. auburn (Mod)
7:19 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
or ...I was gonna say the first name Of the VP...but I think Brain has that covered....
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91. auburn (Mod)
7:03 PM GMT on April 21, 2008
thats what we call a donkey in Alabama...they would ban me for sure if I started talking about Roosters or female dogs on here then...lol
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