Birds N Airplanes do not mix

By: redagainPatti , 3:24 PM GMT on February 24, 2014

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Few folks outside my family know I used to fly and in fact, learned to fly before I drove a car. This because my family had at one time, a small flying business in Southaven, Mississippi. I fully understood the problem this one guy flew into this past Saturday. If you have any questions, I will be glad to try to answer them in the comments below.

Meanwhile Here Is The Story



It all happened on Saturday afternoon on his way into Page Field Airport in Fort Myers, Florida.

Rob Weber was flying at 170 mph when a bird crashed through his window into the front of his single-engine aircraft. In a split second, the window was gone – blood was everywhere.

Weber radioed for an emergency, and caught it all on camera.

In the 11 years Weber has been flying he says only twice has he called "mayday." - "You're sitting there waiting for a bird to come in. Never did see him. All of the sudden the window just explodes. I don't know if he was diving or what happened when I got him," said Weber.

Alone and more than 1,000 feet of the ground, Weber says all he could do was hold on tight and fly his plane. This all with a broken window and a cut on his forehead.

The video is all he needs to know he is one lucky pilot.

Information: Andrea Hubbell, Reporter 0n www.nbc-2.com

I have not posted many Youtube clips but I am trying below. This is the full clip from the hit of the bird to the final landing. Looks like I am only ending up with a link to the clip outside WU. If anyone can share with me how to post the clip better, let me know please....
Movie Link

Second link which you can copy and paste into your address bar
http://youtu.be/cm5PaXDBPT4

Third time... thanks !!!



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33. InfinityLofts
2:37 PM GMT on July 18, 2014
Since you are welcoming 'chatter', I have a question!

As a pilot - would you'd like having the knowledge of WHERE flocks of birds are DAILY ?
By this I mean, I raise and fly homing pigeons, granted not a large bird at all, but my flock currently of 35 birds (looking for roughly a grand total of 60ish) fly together as one group.

I've often wondered if I should check in with the airport/s and just give them a heads up that they're here living in their lofts and flying regularly in this area.

Not sure if I'd be laughed at or helpful. We have everything from large commercial planes to small planes for enjoyment to crop sprayers. Not to mention the ultralites that I don't think use tower contact.

Thoughts?
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32. redagainPatti
9:30 AM GMT on June 27, 2014
Quoting 31. LakeWorthFinn:

I didn't know you were a pilot Patti... so was I! I flew gliders, single engine planes... did acrobatic flying etc. Those were some wild years... lol!

Any idea where OBug is these days?


nope on the OBug.... last I think I heard. ... was in Washington DC sometime ago...
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31. LakeWorthFinn
5:26 AM GMT on June 02, 2014
I didn't know you were a pilot Patti... so was I! I flew gliders, single engine planes... did acrobatic flying etc. Those were some wild years... lol!

Any idea where OBug is these days?
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30. redagainPatti
2:39 AM GMT on April 03, 2014
That flower is so pretty and bright!!! --- like a candle in the dark --- that flower is a candle shining after the dark of winter. Thank you for sharing.
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29. GardenGrrl
7:28 PM GMT on March 20, 2014
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28. redagainPatti
2:03 PM GMT on February 25, 2014
Darling whitewabit, I retired from the classroom a year ago but I still want to answer about my age line the way I did for my students - in a format of a math problem and left some students looking for the dictionary first ---

Count the number of sides of a hexagon and multiply that answer, times the years in a decade will equal the number the years I just became today.


Thank you - I hope you and others in here, have a good day.
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27. Daisyworld
7:54 AM GMT on February 25, 2014
Bird strikes are always a fear anytime I go up. A few years ago, I was taking off in a C172 and a flock of crows were just off to the left side of the runway up ahead. The ATC didn't say anything about them when they cleared me for takeoff, and by the time I rotated, the crows decided to fly off the deck into my flightpath. I was lucky, and barely missed them.
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26. whitewabit (Mod)
7:02 AM GMT on February 25, 2014
Yes good flying .. think I would have been praying and cussing under my breath at the same time ..

so is some one getting older today or very soon ??

Happy Birthday !!
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25. redagainPatti
2:05 AM GMT on February 25, 2014
Dear and darling whitewabit,
My retired teacher pilot here said if this was a stretch six piper, it would be its speed but a four seat one would be lower. However, news folks do get things wrong. We don't have the type of piper so ..... Still some fine flying.. Don't know if I would had cussed or been saying prayers.

Quoting 21. redagainPatti:
I understand about the speed... that worried me too! I copied and pasted it from that news gal, so it is from her info about this. I am checking as it has been awhile since I flew. I recall for take off on the very small plane I was in, the speed was 125. SO.. that's a question I have too...


Quoting 18. whitewabit:


yes so would I .. was a big bird .. can't tell what from the video .. maybe a sea gull .. glad it didn't hit his prop that might have been bad too .. but looked like it comes down from above .. and it actually hits the wind shield frame then the glass breaks and it all comes in .. how fast was he going ?? didn't think that plane could cruse at 170 mph ??
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24. redagainPatti
1:57 AM GMT on February 25, 2014
Quoting 23. Patrap:
1980-81 while I was @ MCAS Cherry Point. If memory serves me.

I was with 3rd LAAMB at the time, a Hawk Missile Btl.


I asked cause I didn't hear about but that's when I was busy having kids and didn't fly after them. Mom and dad lost the small air shipping business about then too. Our family was flying out of Menphis, TN in the late 60's and early 70's. We also use the grass runway at Twinkletown and the very little runway - Desoto Airpark in Desoto County. The last was built into the side of a hill. That made for some fun landings.
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23. Patrap
6:53 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
1980-81 while I was @ MCAS Cherry Point. If memory serves me.

I was with 3rd LAAMB at the time, a Hawk Missile Btl.
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22. redagainPatti
5:24 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Whooo... Glad they added the lever.. about what year was this?

My mom and dad had an old plane where one pulled up the wheels. Sometimes the button did not work to drop them so they had to pump the dang things down with a lever between the seats. One time they had to do this and never flew again solo in that plane as it was really hard to pump and fly at the same time. That was the very first thing I was taught to do in that plane before I understood anything about maps and the rest of the plane.

Quoting 17. Patrap:
A F-4 USMC Fighter Crew took a Bird Strike over the Atlantic while I was on active duty, and the Pilot was knocked unconscious by the strike and suffered a serious shoulder injury as well.

But the F-4 is 2 seater fighter and the RIO or Radar Officer behind him has controls as well to fly the Jet.

He did well returning to base but a design flaw was found.

The Gear down lever was in the front seat cockpit..and the RIO had to scream the Pilot to consciousness to have him pull the gear down lever.

He did come to and they landed safely at Beaufort, MCAS S. Carolina.

That prompted a Fleet wide installation of a 2nd gear down lever in the RIO's cockpit.



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21. redagainPatti
5:03 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
I understand about the speed... that worried me too! I copied and pasted it from that news gal, so it is from her info about this. I am checking as it has been awhile since I flew. I recall for take off on the very small plane I was in, the speed was 125. SO.. that's a question I have too...


Quoting 18. whitewabit:


yes so would I .. was a big bird .. can't tell what from the video .. maybe a sea gull .. glad it didn't hit his prop that might have been bad too .. but looked like it comes down from above .. and it actually hits the wind shield frame then the glass breaks and it all comes in .. how fast was he going ?? didn't think that plane could cruse at 170 mph ??
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20. redagainPatti
4:51 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Correction... he does not have in that small plane, the type of auto controls the big planes have. What he does have is a "trim" correction set so the plane flies level. While many of us are taught to keep a hand on the gas stick, you can, if the plane is set right, have a hand off the yoke - sticks, at different times. There is a list that most pilots are checking before they get into the final leg of landing.

Depending on wind and your direction as you are coming into the airport, you do a "block shaped" circle around the airport. You first call in to let them know you want to land. Sometimes if the airport is busy, you do a much bigger and more like a circle about the area. And then a smaller "circle" as you come into landing. Many times when they say, FINAL - means just starting the last leg before a turn into the runway.
I am guessing here but I think they start much higher up as they get near the airport and turn into the last line up with the runway when they are very close as to not do a low, coming in as this guy does ...due to the major highway.

He went right in without the first leg of the box. He got special OK to do that due to calling out - Mayday. However this put him rather low over the major highway.
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19. Patrap
4:47 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
AV-8B Harrier cockpit post strike.



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18. whitewabit (Mod)
4:44 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Quoting 15. redagainPatti:
Yes, he could had been cut much worse and even knocked out. I don't think I could ever fly again without googles on after watching this. ... but I am not flying anymore.. anyway

I wish they had posted some photos of the plane on the ground. I would like to see more of the inside of the plane.


yes so would I .. was a big bird .. can't tell what from the video .. maybe a sea gull .. glad it didn't hit his prop that might have been bad too .. but looked like it comes down from above .. and it actually hits the wind shield frame then the glass breaks and it all comes in .. how fast was he going ?? didn't think that plane could cruse at 170 mph ??
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17. Patrap
4:42 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
A F-4 USMC Fighter Crew took a Bird Strike over the Atlantic while I was on active duty, and the Pilot was knocked unconscious by the strike and suffered a serious shoulder injury as well.

But the F-4 is 2 seater fighter and the RIO or Radar Officer behind him has controls as well to fly the Jet.

He did well returning to base but a design flaw was found.

The Gear down lever was in the front seat cockpit..and the RIO had to scream the Pilot to consciousness to have him pull the gear down lever.

He did come to and they landed safely at Beaufort, MCAS S. Carolina.

That prompted a Fleet wide installation of a 2nd gear down lever in the RIO's cockpit.



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16. whitewabit (Mod)
4:39 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Quoting 14. redagainPatti:
Some are just hard plastic and other are glass, but not the hard, thick stuff the jets all have. This is due to the weight.


ok .. wasn't sure .. we had a bird strike on a wind shield when I was in the service .. it didn't break but spider webbed the canopy .. very hard landing .. couldn't judge the runway distance .. blew the seals out of the wheel cylinders .. on one tire .. collapsed and he went for a spinning landing .. they had already foamed the runway and he walked away .. and the plane was flying in 2 weeks ..
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15. redagainPatti
4:34 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Yes, he could had been cut much worse and even knocked out. I don't think I could ever fly again without googles on after watching this. ... but I am not flying anymore.. anyway

I wish they had posted some photos of the plane on the ground. I would like to see more of the inside of the plane.
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14. redagainPatti
4:30 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Some are just hard plastic and other are glass, but not the hard, thick stuff the jets all have. This is due to the weight.
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13. redagainPatti
4:28 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
I watched it more than a few times, Rob Weber was shaking at different times and cleaning blood out of his right eye. He had already talked to the airport and was in line to land before the hit. He was able to break off from the normal fly around and go right into the airport. I understood the Tower was worried about the flying over a major highway right before the airport. Also another pilot flying nearby, explained to the Tower at one point what Rob had said ... at one point. I hear them tell the Tower that they might need to have an ambulance at landing and wished the guy .. good luck
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12. whitewabit (Mod)
4:22 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
are those windshields made of glass or some kind of plastic .. ??

if you stop it at 20 seconds there is a large piece of glass slicing back toward his head .. he is very lucky !!!
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11. whitewabit (Mod)
4:20 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Quoting 8. redagainPatti:
I dont think he had glasses on but he DID.. I believe have the auto pilot running since his hands were not on the yoke at the time of the bird. This might had worked in his favor as the plane did not pull off the path and his hands were free to knock broke glass from his head. Gave him just a bit more time to collect his brain and fly the plane.


I don't know .. at the end the woman says to another plane on final approach that he was about the same spot when he got the bird strike .. so wouldn't think he was on auto if on final .. would he be ??

Edit .. but at the beginning he does have his hands off the controls ..
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10. Skyepony (Mod)
4:18 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Saw it hit on the local news. Nice seeing it all the way to parking. Nerves of steal there..

See Ylee helped:)
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9. auburn (Mod)
4:14 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Quoting 6. Ylee:
Youtube posting 101:

On the Youtube page of your video, click "share"

Then click "embed".

You will have three boxes below. The bottom one will say "Use old embed code". Check that box, and the text above it will look something like this:

object width="560" height="315">embed src="//www.youtube.com/v/cm5PaXDBPT4?hl=en_US& vers ion=3&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true">/embed>
Copy/paste that text into either a comment box, or your blog.

Good luck!

The wind coming through that screen must've been something else; I'm assuming he had glasses on?


Be sure to check"use old embed code"
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8. redagainPatti
4:03 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
I dont think he had glasses on but he DID.. I believe have the auto pilot running since his hands were not on the yoke at the time of the bird. This might had worked in his favor as the plane did not pull off the path and his hands were free to knock broke glass from his head. Gave him just a bit more time to collect his brain and fly the plane.
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7. redagainPatti
3:59 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Thank you darling... !!!!!
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6. Ylee
3:52 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
Youtube posting 101:

On the Youtube page of your video, click "share"

Then click "embed".

You will have three boxes below. The bottom one will say "Use old embed code". Check that box, and the text above it will look something like this:

object width="560" height="315">embed src="//www.youtube.com/v/cm5PaXDBPT4?hl=en_US&vers ion=3&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true">/embed>

Copy/paste that text into either a comment box, or your blog.

Good luck!

The wind coming through that screen must've been something else; I'm assuming he had glasses on?
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5. whitewabit (Mod)
3:38 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
not sure how to post the video ..
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4. whitewabit (Mod)
3:36 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
yes was hard to understand the audio .. think it was the wind noise also ..
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3. redagainPatti
3:32 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
heck yea... did you hear the airport had trouble understanding him? I think due to the wind blowing into the plane at 170 miles per hour.. At least they understood he HAD to land asap
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2. redagainPatti
3:31 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
oh. shoot... LOL... OMG you were commenting at the very same time I was on YOUR blog
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1. whitewabit (Mod)
3:28 PM GMT on February 24, 2014
saw the YouTube video of the bird strike .. very luck pilot .. could have been a very bad outcome ..
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The nick, redagain is short for the words - "Redwoods again". It stands for a goal to sleep again in a tent under the Redwood Trees in northern Ca.