TROPICAL STORM VIRGINIIE NORTH OF

By: cyclonebuster , 1:42 AM GMT on June 26, 2009

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Virginie won't have a chance to form as long as the tunnels are in cooling phase. Virginie would only be a cat1 at landfall if he heads this way. See how important they are?

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GOM OIL SPILL MELTING ARCTIC ICE.



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Tunnels save pelicans.

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They just went severe!

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Watch out NO!

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Quoting MichaelSTL:


They are currently trying to cap it, but it doesn't look successful so far (try taking a hose running full-on and putting your hand over it):


Video here (the fins sticking out are part of the cap)

They SHOULD have the opening at the top open while doing this; that makes me wonder otherwise...


They should have used a much larger pipe at the top end of the top hat, that way there would be much less friction going up the pipe. How much vacuum are they pulling on the top hat from above?
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Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama tornadoes coming your way!
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
This is the fully open well after they cut the pipe off:



Oil volcano?


Makes you wonder if the BOP was closed at all? Oil volcano is right Michael!
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Alex looking better this morning!Headed North.
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
Are you ever going to update this?

...back when Bill was a TD...

That was last August.


Good point MichaelSTL. I now have a new simulation as to what the tunnels can do for us this season and how it can lower this seasons ACE which is the 3rd highest since 1950. Just start at the top and see what you think?
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Tunnels would weaken Alex prior to reaching Yucatan Channel if it would form. Looks like it has a good chance.





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Quoting MichaelSTL:


In fact, that is why I mentioned it - they had to change the scale; see this previous graph that I saved (look at the scale on the left).


Corrcet! It is now at -10 instead of -5. Next it will be -15 perhaps this year!.
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Also,not suprising given recent GLOBAL ocean record HIGH temperatures.
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
Notice something different here?



(compare to the same graph from a couple weeks ago)


Correct! Less ice mass melts quicker even if whatever is melting the ice is at the same temperature and the ice will melt even quicker if the temperature of what is melting it increases which is what the oceans and atmosphere is doing. I see it is well below 2007 ice mass now! We need to restore global ocean temps to what they were pre-industrial revolution. The Arctic condition is as bad as what the GOM condition is now.

It is going to be off that chart very soon Michael they will have to change the charts parameters.I am sure it also represents how fast last years thin ice is melting off very Quik!
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Still leaking pretty bad this morning! I wonder how much slurry/mud they have used so far?

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Bottom line is we as a nation are 13 trillion in debt now. We don't the have the money to fix it. But I know how to prevent if from ever occuring again.
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Over 7,000 barrels of mud now pumped to the bottom of the ocean as of now!
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
I don't think this has been mentioned yet:


Oil slick hits Singapore coast after ships collide (Roundup)

May 26, 2010, 12:03 GMT

Singapore - Patches of oil slick hit the Singapore coast Wednesday after an estimated 2,500 tons of crude oil leaked from a damaged tanker following a collision, the port authority said.

On Tuesday, the Malaysian-registered tanker MT Bunga Kelana 3 collided with a bulk carrier about 13 kilometres south-west of Singapore.

In addition to patches of oil spotted at a naval base, oil slicks have also affected other parts of the east coast including the national sailing centre and a resort, the Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore said in a statement.

Cleaning efforts continued, with weather, wind and tidal conditions playing an important role, it said, adding that officials have deployed 19 vessels and more than 120 personnel using 3,300 metres of containment booms to keep the oil spill away from the shores.

Hours after the collision the oil slick measured 4 kilometres by 1 kilometre and was located about 6 kilometres south of Singapore's east coast.

Residents complained about a foul oil smell after the collision, local media reported.

The tanker, operated by Malaysian company AET, collided with the bulk carrier MV Waily, registered under the flag of St Vincent and the Grenadines.

There were no reports of injured crew after the accident. Traffic in the Singapore Straits was not affected.


Very sad Michael very sad. What really bothers me about it is I know my idea would have prevented it.
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Top Kill Live. Sounds like a rock band right?

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Quoting MichaelSTL:
The pipe is/was supposed to be strong enough to withstand the pressure.


Yep! Makes you wonder what broke it in the first place. I guess it broke when the platform sunk.
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If they stopped the flow would it freeze up and expand and break the pipe?
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
I myself don't see how they think they can seal it up with mud or cement since the pressure would just push it back out. They'd have to use something much more solid - but then it'd be impossible to pipe it down in the first place.


If they did stop it the pressure behind it would increase. This may break what is holding it in place now!
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Live

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Quoting JFLORIDA:
Its is very doubtful this will work. There is a significant possibility it will make matters worse.

I would feel better if someone else was evaluating and implementing the response.


I heard the slurry is partially made of cement. That will cut right through the metal at those pressures over time.
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Quoting MichaelSTL:


Indeed...

GULF OIL SPILL COULD HAVE BEEN SEALED IN 8 HOURS ANYTIME

Instead, we now have up to 100 million gallons (assuming 3 million gallons per day) of oil polluting the Gulf...


Soon the GOM could be ruined because of ignorance.
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What's sad now is this can be even worse. I am sure that slurry mixture is very grity and at those pressures if it doesn't seal off fast it will cut/erode right through the metal and then you can lose the whole well head.
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Live link to oil leak!

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Sadly this could have been done over 30 days ago.
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Pinch the oil leak off with a larger version of "The Jaws Of Life" and then seal weld it shut. I would be glad to do this myself if they can supply me the equipment and submersible.

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90L at 76.02N and 31.9N. Looks like it has to traverse 82 to 83 degree water prior to landfall if it makes it ashore!


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78 degrees or more now. I bet the dark oil is warming it up good now.

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90L AT 30.0N AND 72.0W

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In just 3 weeks the GOM temperature has risen 4C near the oil spill is this partially because of the darker oil and insulation effect it has?


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What's neat about loop is it turns blue first showing that it is thin ice then black showing the water as the ice melts away!
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Quoting MichaelSTL:
You can see a bunch of areas with thin and/or low concentration ice here, in addition to areas where it has already started retreating from the coast (look at the individual areas here, you can see that many are starting to melt, even those areas not at the ice edge, like the Laptev Sea):



(I find the black and white images easier to read than the colored ones, they look more natural as well because ice is of course white)


Correct Michael the Laptev Sea I noticed when you run the loop you can see area of water is growing fast as the ice is meting fast. It looks like a long narrow patch of water that is growing longer and wider.

Run the loop here: Look at the area just North of the new siberian islands and just off the coast North of Alaska!

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