Redesign Update

By: Toby Skinner , 11:45 PM GMT on February 04, 2011

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It's been almost 3 days since the launch of the new site and as expected, we've had a huge amount of feedback from you all. We appreciate all of your comments - both the positive and negative - and rest assured that we are listening to each and every one of you. We would like to address some of the recurring concerns that have been raised:

How long will the classic site be available?
The classic site is not going anywhere. We will be running it alongside the new site but as we add new features and data the classic site will not benefit from these additions. For further reassurance, I can tell you that we are still running our Telnet site from back in 1992 before The Internet took over.

Why change for the sake of change?
We are one of the oldest sites on the Internet and this new site design is the first major overhaul of the user interface for 16 years. The fact that we have had one overhaul in 16 years demonstrates that we do not 'change for the sake of change'. We have added so much data and so many new products over the years that we simply had to re-organize the architecture of the site. Also, we appreciate how much our loyal users love the appearance of the classic site, but for visitors less familiar with it, the brand impression was not always so positive. We have conducted research that showed that many people did not trust the weather data on the classic site because of its dated appearance. Of course our existing users remain our number one priority and these changes are designed to enhance your experience - but to continue to be here and provide you with our unique quality of data then we have to appeal to a wide audience.

I can't find data on the city forecast page?
The number one rule that we set ourselves when looking at the city forecast page was that absolutely no data could be taken away from our users. The focus of the redesign was to instantly surface as much data as possible for our users - but with a layout that doesn't feel like such a data overload. Despite its cleaner appearance, there is in fact more data available on the city forecast page than before, without having to click to a new page.

Why has the 5-day Forecast been moved further down the page?
We understand that some users are not happy about having to scroll down to the 5-day forecasts. We introduced the 'at a glance' data at the top of the page so you can see what weather is heading your way over the next 36 hour period. We could not keep everything at the top of the page but please note that the new city forecast page is more customizable for users with the collapsible functionality of the content sections. In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit.

Why did we launch the new site during major storms?
We had planned the re-launch for Groundhog Day for several months and we unfortunately could not have anticipated the level of severe weather activity that far in advance.

Are we 'going to do a Facebook' and keep changing the interface?
Again, this is the 1st overhaul of the site for 16 years. If you've used wunderground.com for a while you know that we are constantly making small changes to improve the site and this will continue on the new site. I can't promise that we won't redesign the site in 2017.....!

You can still go to your settings page and view both fahrenheit and degrees - it still needs some work integrating with the new site - we're working on it!

We will continue to listen to all of your feedback as we move forward with the new user interface. Ultimately, our focus is on delivering the most reliable and in-depth weather information - you can choose which version of the site you wish to view the data on.

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I think the redesigned layout a lot; it's much cleaner and more modern looking, and makes it easy to locate the information I need. I am a bit bemused to have a prominent chuck of the page taken up by a weather summary, and weather events, for North America though. If you can't localise this, get rid of it from the 'front page'.
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Quoting Isobrat:
One thing is clear about the now Classic WU. It’s too WELL DESIGNED, not outdated. It’s so well integrated that there’s no way to easily add advertisements. The advertisements are the only things that look better on the new site. I urge WU to not just maintain the Classic site as some kind of relic set in amber but keep it fresh with new features as they become available. Whatever the needs are for advertising revenue, an alive and evolving Classic site should be one of the options available to paying customers.


This is a great point and I agree. An evolving classic site should be available to paying customers if they want it. And just now, after comparing the two, I see this is dead on. Classic IS too hard to fit adds into, hence the new site is for adds, which is sad. For anyone who disagrees, sorry this is just a fact. Because of 'weather events' and 'weather summary', there's substantially less visible at the new site. Those things appear to be there to keep room for adds...for those not logged in. I'm sorry, been trying, I just don't like it. It's not an improvement. If WU gets rid of those and moves up the 5 day or 7 day forecast, that might qualify as an improvement. But for now, classic wins.
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One thing is clear about the now Classic WU. It’s too WELL DESIGNED, not outdated. It’s so well integrated that there’s no way to easily add advertisements. The advertisements are the only things that look better on the new site. I urge WU to not just maintain the Classic site as some kind of relic set in amber but keep it fresh with new features as they become available. Whatever the needs are for advertising revenue, an alive and evolving Classic site should be one of the options available to paying customers.
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The new upgrade is in essence an electronic version of the "Ozarks Hillbilly Weather Center"; stick hand out door if wet it is raining. My initial window only shows the current conditions. I must click on an option to find any other information.

It doesn't matter if I navigate to photo's, radar, or blogs the new window offers options for navigation to the info I really want.

I decided to pay for a year to see if it improved my experience. At this point the $10.00 looks to be well spent. The site is zippy since I no longer have to wait for ads to load.

I'm probably doing something wrong as it seems most people are complaining about useful information being buried in the page. I have nothing buried in the page. I must navigate off the initial page for that experience.

In closing I hope your design department hasn't been working on this upgrade for 16 years. Most web designers can make sites less user friendly in far less time.

Mike
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What's with the calendar? I expected to see the 7 day forecast on it with high/lows/precip/etc instead of the historical.

If you'd add the forecast, it might give some of us "classic" people a way to see the forecast instead of digging through endless text and clicking links.
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Quoting ArnoldZiffel:
I never had ads on the paid-for membership version of Wunderground. Now there are ads. What gives? And, yes, I did sign out and sign back in to "kick it" but there are still ads. I even checked the "old" version and there are ads there, too. Isn't that what I paid for?... an ad-free environment?


I have the Adblock plus add-on with Firefox and I don't see any ads. Really helps when I view the local newspaper online which sometimes has 2 or more intrusive video ads complete with sound both playing at the same time when I go there.
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Quoting RedBridge:
Let me guess - the "survey" saying people didn't trust the former site was provided and run by the software developers, right?

Now where, again, is the button to switch to classic?


http://classic.wunderground.com/

Go there, find your city, bookmark that.
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Let me guess - the "survey" saying people didn't trust the former site was provided and run by the software developers, right?

Now where, again, is the button to switch to classic? I saw it once, then went back to look, can't find it.

Hourly?

You guys got scammed big time by someone who convinced you you had to change. Now you have to have all these large, obnoxious ads to pay for what was certainly an extremely costly (especially since it's largely worthless) re-design.

You should sue.
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Looks good! I do see one thing not functioning correctly though. In preferences I have it set to display both English and Metric units and it is only displaying English.
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For starters: I've spent almost 10 minutes trying to find what this sentence promises: " In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit."

What "radar image?" Where!?

Second, WHERE is any hourly forecast data? I often depended on being able to see temp, wind, and especially precipitation on an hourly basis. Now when you click on an icon it gives you a choice of icon-styles?!? Such BS.

Third, what collapsible functionality? Maybe at the bottom of the page, where I don't need it!

Fourth, and it's been this way for awhile, even on the "classic" site: I used to click on my bookmark and it would bring up my city. Now I have to go to a second page just to see it.

I realize people tend to complain about new things just because they're new, but this site is incredibly hard to use. Ridiculously. Why do I need a separate box for the next 36 hours? Do you feel I can't look at a five day forecast and realize which parts of it represent the next 36 hours?

If people "didn't trust" the weather because of the style of the icons, then first, they're idiots not to be catered to, and second, why not just change the damn icons rather than make the site unbelievably hard to use, and the "what's changed" page give instructions that are impossible to understand, or really, a veritible lack of instructions?
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WHere is the hourly forecast? I can't find it anywhere?
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Although you say you've introduced the new tab next to radar with the 7 day forecast, it doesn't come close to replacing the wonderful *horizontal* visual extended forecast below, that was the main reason I used this web page (and that I could get both F/C units). This change is a major shortcoming of the new page and I do hope you'll reconsider again moving the extended forecast to the top where I can see it without scrolling.
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As long as the cloud ceiling data are easy to find, I don't care what the site looks like. Go, Wundergound!
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I don't see it either, plus, I really don't want text, I want the old icons back with high/low temps.

Quoting ParkerPark:
From WU,

"In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit."

I don't think I see this tab, unless it's the 'Extended Forecast' tab, but that doesn't place the 7 day at the top of the page. Anyone? I'm trying to like the new design...
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I haven't formed an opinion yet about the new site. One thing I'm noticing is the the current data doesn't seem to be automatically updating. I typically keep my local weather station's current conditions open in one of my Firefox tabs and when I'd switch to it the data would say something like "updated 2 sec ago". However, now it may say "updated 7 hrs ago" and I have to refresh the page. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
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434. kjs28
No, I like the old view better. This new layout features too much national and "around the world" stuff crowding the top immediate area. To get the important info I want locally I have to scroll down and actually click to pursue remote links. Disgusting.
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My favorite classic feature was clicking on Hourly at the bottom of a 5-day forecast graphic and moving right on to the 7-day graphic forecast. I cannot figure out how to do that with this new look. Unfortunately, I have to visit other weather websites to do that now. And Wunderground has always been my favorite.

It's like you have TOO much information on the page with this new version, but not really the old quick look that was so easy to check. :-(
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I'm not impressed with the new site. It looks commercial and I'm cynical enough to guess that you want to sell more advertising and this new format invites and provides space for it. Please don't ditch the classic site for those of us who have been with you for more than a decade.
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431. gorji
In the extended forecast, I want to see a the high low temps for the week without having to read the whole forecast.I will stay with classic look until this gets addressed. Thank you
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classic.wunderground.com


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While the new site has its advantages, there are many thing that I find a problem with the site. I wanted to upgrade to a paying customer but like all computer sites, you guys put yourselves beyond contact. I do not have the time to write out all of my questions and suggestions. You want feedback, then you make it nearly impossible for a person to give you feedback by creating so many problems. One point: you asked for my location then I lost the pop-up and now I can't get it back. You give do not instructions about how to retrieve the pop-up but like all computer, I sorry to say, geeks, thinking that everybody knows how to do these things. I like your site but you could make it more user friendly. I would like to help but you make too difficult. I hope I have given you some food for thought.
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Give us our partition of the new content management system: allow each user to customize which module or panel to include and where to place it on the screen for his own optimum viewing utility.

I have used content management systems that allow the designer/author to do this; extend this capability to the paying users and they will have yet another reason to support the site, a very good one in fact.

As it is now, I agree that it takes much more scrolling around to get the basic information that used to be within one screenful on the classic view. No longer can I simply glance at the classic WUnderground screen and gather up so much data in such a short time.

And give high contrast options to viewers, not everybody's eyes can focus quickly on dark gray letters on a slightly lighter gray background. If I want art I'll go to an art gallery. I depend on this site for nuts-and-bolts weather data and interpretation, some of which might save my life in the case of severe weather.
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I love the new format of the site! Great job and please keep it! Some people like the change; others need to learn to go with the flow. This is actually much much better than the old one!
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Quoting PineNut:
Funny -I DON'T LIKE THE NEW SITE AT ALL. but the amount of time it takes to write out your complaint could be better spent researching the issues you have with the new site and getting to know it. The internet and the information it serves to people is going to change, get used to that. Learn how to use the new, latest version of sites you like and get on with it. While there may be glitches in new sites, that will usually be worked out quite quickly. The idea is to serve more information in a better format. I think they have done a Wunderful job of that.


Yes, Wunderground has succeeded in bringing their look in line with AccuWeather.com, congratulations.

For those of us who neither care for the unabashed plagiarism of the FaceBook look and who do not break out in an anxious sweat when presented with more information at a glance than less, there is still
http://www.weather.gov/

As someone who writes code for a living, Wunderground's new GUI needs re-working. Admins should take a lesson from current events in Egypt: man-up and fix things.

"Funny" is in this instance is a sycophant's notion that his use of a metaplasmus should be construed as a marker of wit.


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FREAKIN TERRIBLE! THIS NEW WEATHER PAGE IS WAY TOO HARD TO READ...TELLS YOU NUTTIN AT A GLANCE COMPARED TO THE OLD ONE CLASSIC ONE......ALSO...THE RIGHT HAND ADDS ARE WAY TO BIG AN INTERVERE WITH VIEWING YUR WEATHER FORECAST...PLUS..THE NEW PAGE TAKES FOREVER TO LOAD...ITS TEN TIMES SLOWER THAN THE OLD ONE.....AN STILL TELLS YOU NOTHING...I HOPE WEATHER UNDERGROUND KEEPS THE CLASSIC ONE AROUND...OR YOU WILL LOSE ALL YUR LOYAL FANS.....YOU GUYS HAD THE BEST...EASY TO READ WEATHERPAGE ON THE INTERNET...WHY GO CHANGE IT AN SCREW UP EVERYTHING???? I DONT GET THAT....THERES AN OL SAYING..."DONT FIX SOMETHING THAT ISNT BROKE" JUST FOR ME....IM STICKING WITH THE CLASSIC PAGE...JUST SO MUCH MORE WELL THOUGHT OUT AN EASY TO SEE...TAKE CARE WEATHERHEADS...
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I guess you can tell by my user name that I prefer the classic view. I am stumped why Weather Underground would change their appearance when it was so great before. I have looked at it almost daily for the last 2 years and find it superior to The Weather Channel’s site. Now, guess what?! It looks mighty similar. I cannot believe you have buried (pardon the pun, I am in the Chicago area) the 5 day forecast. I even use the 10-day forecast quite frequently.

I like to think beyond the next 36 hours. I like to see when the brutal winter weather will be best so I can plan ahead. I think it is one of our main societal issues that people do not have time to plan ahead because they are always so busy and in a hurry. Lastly I know you need to make money to provide the site, so banner ads, etc. are OK, no pop-ups PLEASE, but leave the airfares, etc. to the travel planning sites. Save your company a lot of trouble and put a survey on the main page and ask the customers which site they prefer. If they prefer the old site, just go back! Thanks for considering my thoughts.
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Aside from the undeniable fact that the new interface continues to blow/suck worse than any Nor'easterner ever experienced, would one of the web savants at Wunderground tell me why the preferred GUI can not be displayed once a PAYING customer logs in?
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Funny -I DON'T LIKE THE NEW SITE AT ALL. but the amount of time it takes to write out your complaint could be better spent researching the issues you have with the new site and getting to know it. The internet and the information it serves to people is going to change, get used to that. Learn how to use the new, latest version of sites you like and get on with it. While there may be glitches in new sites, that will usually be worked out quite quickly. The idea is to serve more information in a better format. I think they have done a Wunderful job of that.
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Member since 2003. Liked the older version. I believe in changing something to improve, but not just to make a change. Too much scrolling required on the new one. If I wanted complex I would use the weather channels website. Will keep using classic but don't know if I will renew my membership at this time. Time will tell if the new and improved site fits my needs.
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420. JKDOS
Hey, Did you have fun? Did I miss the questionnaire about wanting change? Are you still having fun?
Cogito ergo sum. I think there fore I AM! Rene' Descartes
"I AM THAT I AM"  Torah saith the Lord  AKA Burning Bush
Change is due to too much time on your hands.
The classic view has had me as a paying member since 11/06.
Ever wonder why I don't use one of the other services?
Could it be, I like what I can see with ease.
Put The projected back along side current. Get the current conditions, let me choose to see other locations
WHY ALL LOCAL?
Let me choose what my page looks like.
 I have no interest in the world, or other locations at a glace.
Who on your staff does?
Biggest mistake is to ASSUME
then to ASSUME something needs to Change.
You want change then let me choose!
Do you have the ability to let go of what you think is right
and let others choose?
Life is Good
Thanks for leaving the CLASSIC view available,
 there is some choice provided.
May you enjoy life to its fullest.
Doubt will Block even the strongest & wisest
Bro John Pathfinder
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Thanks for the new site. I think it does a very good job of providing more information in a concise manner. I've had several positive comments from "fans" of my PWS.

I like the sparkline graphs on the page, but I have one question...why isn't there one for temperature?

I'm proud to display my weather data on Weather Underground!
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I think it is great. Lots of good information. Thanks
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I never had ads on the paid-for membership version of Wunderground. Now there are ads. What gives? And, yes, I did sign out and sign back in to "kick it" but there are still ads. I even checked the "old" version and there are ads there, too. Isn't that what I paid for?... an ad-free environment?
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Quoting vwvvwv:
I DON'T LIKE THE NEW SITE AT ALL.

I WANT THE CLASSIC VIEW AS MY PERMANENT VIEW.

THE NEW FONT IS TOO SMALL, TOO FAINT AND THUS TOO HARD TO READ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
No need to shout.  Just go to the classic page you want to open with, bookmark it and use that to open WU classic.http://classic.wunderground.com/
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I DON'T LIKE THE NEW SITE AT ALL.

I WANT THE CLASSIC VIEW AS MY PERMANENT VIEW.

THE NEW FONT IS TOO SMALL, TOO FAINT AND THUS TOO HARD TO READ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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Quoting TNTSAYLORSBURG:
The Pressure does not appear from my weather station on the Home Page. Pressure is important in the forcast?

I have a pressure reading as the first line of Current Data -
Conditions. Have you tried other weather stations? Have you checked
the list of weather stations at the bottom of the Local Weather page
- on the classic site - to see what stations report pressure. I
see no column for pressure in the corresponding list on the new
site.

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Can anyone explain why there is so much extra space out to the sides? Is there a design reason? Perhaps someone at WU could explain in the next post to this blog? I'm legitimately wondering...as opposed to complaining, I mean.
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The Pressure does not appear from my weather station on the Home Page. Pressure is important in the forcast?
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Hurricane Preparation 2011
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I am trying to fine the print this page command on the Marine Forecast. Any hints?

concomcad@comcast.net
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409. N9PBY
Some comments and suggestions:

I think the new look is cleaner, but also echo some of the points made in a number of other posts: Lots of wasted space on wider/hi-res screens and scrolling to get to information.

At the very least, perhaops consider a box of links at or near the top that take the viewer to anchors to sections of the page.

On the wind rose, add four tick marks for North, South, East and West. They don't have to be labelled, but they probably would add to the purpose of the circle.

Lastly, the website refresh is nice, but start thinking about what new features could be incorporated. Personally, I'd like to see a system for quality checking personal weather stations, perhaps something similar to the MADIS quality check system. Although it's a small percentage, there's too many personal weather stations supplying questionable, if not outright bad data. Perhaps a absolute numeric (i.e. no dewpoint higher than reported temperature) and a buddy-check system similar to MADIS with a resulting letter grade score, with anything D or F either flagged or excluded from the Wundermap and city forecast pages. Likewise, A or B graded stations receiving an icon on their data history page for rewarding good data reporting.

It's great that Weather Underground encourages data from so many reporting sources, but I think WU should also find ways to encourage sources to make sure they are providing good quality data.

Another idea for the Wundermap: Have the option of the map to draw temperature and dewpoint gradients in shaded colors using the station data. Likewise, drawing isobars using reported data. Precip accumulation gradients as well.

Overall, I really like what WU does. There's a wide supply of data...something no other weather site does a good job of revealing. It would be neat to see the features built out a little further to showcase/process this data.
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Okay, where is the quick reference or list to click to other favorites? My intent was to hit the main page then instantly click to Dallas to see what's happening up there.

Bring those back to the upper part of the page!
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407. Bogon
My biggest complaint about the new look is the horizontal favorite cities list. You can't see them all at once. You can't click on the column header and order them by temperature, humidity etc. That was how I used the list on the classic site. I don't have much use for the new version. Fortunately for me it's not a make-or-break feature.

Here's a suggestion for a new feature. Add a Recent Blog Comments list for each member. It would make it easier for a member to revisit each of his recent posts to see whether any of them garnered replies. And for anyone who was interested in learning more about a particular blogger, it would help to find out what that blogger has been saying elsewhere around the site.
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I have become a fan of the new site! I use Weather Underground daily, and think it's one of the most informative of the weather sites that I've found. I don't care to use anything else for weather. I'm a big supporter of Weather Underground, and have been for many years.

All the relevant information is still here in the new format. It may take a few more clicks, but the change for the most part is good. Besides, you can always select Classic view until you're used to the new version!

Well done, Weather Underground! You have a long-time fan here!
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I use the site daily. Well, lets say I used to use the site daily. The new format is not as informative as the old site. The new format may look "facebookish" but it's nothing but an imitation. WUnderground appears to be nothing more than a follower. How about you put an option on the MAIN PAGE for the classic view. I am confident that most will use the classic view as it was much more easy to use and provided a lot more information that the new format. Good Luck. Weather.com, here i come.
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Regarding
hard to read fonts & colors:
This might be something that can be improved by playing with your screen display settings,
particularly brightness and contrast. The default settings from the
manufacture are not always the best way to go. The default display
on my machine is much too bright. I long ago dialed back both
brightness and contrast and increased the gamma to find a setting
that gives me an excellent display on almost all websites. I have no
trouble reading the new site through 62-year-old eyes and progressive
bi-focals.

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403. mnsky
Nice !labels=1
labels=1

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Quoting Traumarat:
Well, Just checked out data listed on the"New and Improved" page and found an unbelievable thing.

THE DATA IS ALL WRONG!

My current and historical temerature data is all incorrect and when I click on the "Stats for this date" tab it has another unique set of bad stats. When I return to the "Legacy" format, all the information for my site was correct, both current and historical.

If you are going to update a service that thrives on accurate data, you need to get it right before you roll out those improvements.

GET IT RIGHT, GUYS!.
Are you sure you're not looking at two different weather stations.  My current weather data comes from a PWS five miles west of me.  The 'History Data' info comes from an airport 12 miles southeast.  There can be quite a difference.  
It also appears possible to have two different stations showing current conditions on side-by-side views of new and classic sites, if you change one and don't refresh the other.
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Congratulations on the new interface. It does look cleaner and more contemporary, especially some of the fonts. You've provided yourselves with a bit more ad space, and it's not too intrusive, but the left rail seems to be wasted space at larger screen sizes. All of the old functionality appears to be readily available, along with new features, and you are still far better than the competition. And thank you so much for not using one of those abominable social media footer toolbars!

But now we have to scroll a lot to find what we need, probably so we see more of those ads. I use Weather Underground for information, not for style. Sorry, but I still prefer the old interface. Thank you for trying. You can't please all the people all the time, especially on the internet. Kudos to you for continuing to provide the Classic View and not pulling a Facebook or a Google and forcing unwanted "improvements" on us.

For myself, after exploring the new version, I have bookmarked a link to Classic that goes straight to my zip code and shows current conditions, 5-day forecast in both Fahrenheit and Celsius, and radar map, all in one perfect view, no scrolling required. To see other locations in the same view, all I have to do is enter a different zip code or city. If I need more details, they are close at hand. Thank you.
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Two great comments:

Re: 384. These are great points, actually. So given all this, will they be able to move things around if need be, and/or add/change things that aren't there or aren't right? I assume so, should get better.

Re: 388. Me too! Where's the UV index forecast? In FLA, many of us live by that. The blog entry clearly states that all the info is there. But that little tidbit is gone. Please add it by March...when things really heat up down here.
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399. sfwmd
The new weather page is worthless.

I am a boat captain and have come to rely on the quick access to the marine forecast.

Now I can easily view earthquake activity on the new weather page but I have to hunt down the marine weather.

If you get rid of the the classic page, I am gone as a subscriber.
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