Redesign Update

By: Toby Skinner , 11:45 PM GMT on February 04, 2011

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It's been almost 3 days since the launch of the new site and as expected, we've had a huge amount of feedback from you all. We appreciate all of your comments - both the positive and negative - and rest assured that we are listening to each and every one of you. We would like to address some of the recurring concerns that have been raised:

How long will the classic site be available?
The classic site is not going anywhere. We will be running it alongside the new site but as we add new features and data the classic site will not benefit from these additions. For further reassurance, I can tell you that we are still running our Telnet site from back in 1992 before The Internet took over.

Why change for the sake of change?
We are one of the oldest sites on the Internet and this new site design is the first major overhaul of the user interface for 16 years. The fact that we have had one overhaul in 16 years demonstrates that we do not 'change for the sake of change'. We have added so much data and so many new products over the years that we simply had to re-organize the architecture of the site. Also, we appreciate how much our loyal users love the appearance of the classic site, but for visitors less familiar with it, the brand impression was not always so positive. We have conducted research that showed that many people did not trust the weather data on the classic site because of its dated appearance. Of course our existing users remain our number one priority and these changes are designed to enhance your experience - but to continue to be here and provide you with our unique quality of data then we have to appeal to a wide audience.

I can't find data on the city forecast page?
The number one rule that we set ourselves when looking at the city forecast page was that absolutely no data could be taken away from our users. The focus of the redesign was to instantly surface as much data as possible for our users - but with a layout that doesn't feel like such a data overload. Despite its cleaner appearance, there is in fact more data available on the city forecast page than before, without having to click to a new page.

Why has the 5-day Forecast been moved further down the page?
We understand that some users are not happy about having to scroll down to the 5-day forecasts. We introduced the 'at a glance' data at the top of the page so you can see what weather is heading your way over the next 36 hour period. We could not keep everything at the top of the page but please note that the new city forecast page is more customizable for users with the collapsible functionality of the content sections. In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit.

Why did we launch the new site during major storms?
We had planned the re-launch for Groundhog Day for several months and we unfortunately could not have anticipated the level of severe weather activity that far in advance.

Are we 'going to do a Facebook' and keep changing the interface?
Again, this is the 1st overhaul of the site for 16 years. If you've used wunderground.com for a while you know that we are constantly making small changes to improve the site and this will continue on the new site. I can't promise that we won't redesign the site in 2017.....!

You can still go to your settings page and view both fahrenheit and degrees - it still needs some work integrating with the new site - we're working on it!

We will continue to listen to all of your feedback as we move forward with the new user interface. Ultimately, our focus is on delivering the most reliable and in-depth weather information - you can choose which version of the site you wish to view the data on.

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Quoting whatdis:
What happened to the daily forcast broken up by hours?

"View Detailed Hourly Forecast" link is near the bottom left of the Forecast module - a short scroll down on the Local Weather page.
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What happened to the daily forcast broken up by hours?
If answer not sufficient:
How do I drop my account and erase info?
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CHANGE IS GOOD I ADMIT...SINCE THEY CHANGED THE GOOD CLASSIC WEATHERPAGE TO THE HORRIBLE NEW ONE...I FOUND A WHOLE LOT OF NEW WEATHERSITES I NEVER KNEW EXISTED..SO..CHANGE IS GREAT SOMETIMES..I JUST HOPE W.U. IS READING THIS BLOG AN COMMENTS ON OUR CONCERNS IN THE NEAR FUTURE...
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I probably will not pay my $10 when its due. I can go to Intellicast and get a much better radar display, almost a full screen. You get your radar from BGM as do they, but I like there display better. As far as the rest of the new site goes I find it very overloaded with non sense.
Thanks for a non improvement.
Andy
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NIce job on the site.
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WELL...ITS BEEN A MONTH...WILL WEATHER UNDERGROUND ADRESS US NOW ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH THE HORRIBLE NEW SITE?? I HOPE THEY DO...OR AT LEAST SHOW US THEY CARE ENOUGH TO BE READING THIS BLOG AN COMMENTS...
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short time user. do actually like the old classic view better. if in fact the pay-pal issue is based on a kick-back----i for one will be gone. leave somethings alone. if it is not broken do not fix it, especially for an money /profit thing only reason.
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Quoting seandsuds:
@weatherfact>Thanks for trying something new. Truly. A change was needed. Some of the redesign changes are definitely for the better, but some others clearly are steps backward--which is exactly where you didn't want to go. <

'Good stuff......... I agree with with most everything except maybe "the reasons for..."' but this is well done......

Thanks for the time and effort


I also agree with most of this. It was dated in terms of font, etc... and I completely understand having to try something new. But, in my opinion, this is a very poor design and I'm very surprised that it passed.
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I understand that all companies must try to keep current or not be complacent. But I'm stunned at how at the changes they made on their site. They completely scrapped what was working and went ot a format that does not seem very well thought out at all. I loved the current conditions, 5 day forcast (and ability to drill down to indvidual days, hours) and marine forcast all without having to scroll down, etc... And then if I wanted local weahter stations, moon phases, previous records, photos, things that are not as relevent to what's current, then I could scroll down and find info on almost everything. Now I am all over the site just to get the basics. Even the current day break down at the top is very vague in info. Very poor design, surprised this passed by anyone. Hope you fired the consulating firm that came up with it and the manager/team that gave it approval. Makes you wonder if wu was recently purchased...if not must have had a mangement change and somenone is trying to make it look like they are doing something to justify their position.
Keep the classic, even tweak the classic to see what does and does not work, best weather site on the internet.
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It's sad that WU is choosing not to respond further. That speaks volumes to me.

Edward
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Seeing the two sites side by side, I do like the new MUCH better -- cleaner, no tacky banner at the top or mismash of boxes on the page. Love the drop downs -- you are saving valuable real estate which comes in handy on a netbook.

One question: why didn't you update the logo? That's what almost turned me away years ago when I first came to the site. Forgive me, but it looks like it was done with clip art. In Publisher. Maybe you want to keep that old school feel but there are more pleasant ways to achieve that without actually being old school.

Thanks for all you are doing to make your look as attractive as your content. You have always been the only REAL weather site. Now -- when are you going to have a REAL phone app?
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For what it's worth, I really like the new format. It's neat, clean and uncluttered. Finding everything I want is quick and easy. Reading the other posts, it seems that nobody likes to change, even if it's for the better. Keep up the good work, I look forward to your new look in 2017
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What happened to the "averages" and "records" info in the Weather History tables? Has everyone lost them in the transition or just me?
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would like to have both F and C like old page other wise this is nice format.
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@weatherfact>Thanks for trying something new. Truly. A change was needed. Some of the redesign changes are definitely for the better, but some others clearly are steps backward--which is exactly where you didn't want to go. <

'Good stuff......... I agree with with most everything except maybe "the reasons for..."' but this is well done......

Thanks for the time and effort
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I get the vital importance of the following Wunderground redesign explanation: "We have conducted research that showed that many people did not trust the weather data on the classic site because of its dated appearance." I believe this aspect of your research and realize that Wunderground must compete with other sites and broaden its audience.

Now something you don't want to hear: Your designer(s) did some things very well, and did some things not so well. The new font and somewhat cleaner look is pretty good, but some parts of the content to be rearranged, as noted in many previous comments. A Wunderground response of "but the new look cannot be rearranged because our research shows it is better and we put a lot of time and thought into it" (I paraphrased that supposed quote) is not a mature response, nor is it an acceptable one in most workplaces. Please accept the fact that you did not absolutely get everything completely right in the the new "top of the fold" layout.

Some new aspects are nice, like the large font for the current temperature. Some things you got wrong, like the moon phase information being above the wind speed, and the relatively tiny size of the wind speed and direction indicator. It should be in a smaller font than the temperature, but it needs to be more bold than it is in the redesign. As many people have said, the radar needs to be brought back up to the top--maybe near the top right of the page, but under a longer forecast, like the 5-day. The world weather events section should not be at the very top right. Please lower it some. Radar is more important if you want people to go to Wunderground on a daily or more frequent basis. World weather events are news and should not be discounted, but the relative importance is lower than radar for Wunderground.

The classic site does look old, but it does not look old because it has a 5-day forecast and radar on the first screen view. Do Wunderground staff agree with this view? From your redesign explanation, some of you working at Wunderground think that you could not update the look without moving down the longer forecast and the radar image. I disagree, as do many people who want to continue to use Wunderground.

Maybe most of the current Wunderground "defend the new design at all costs" mentality is grounded in already having blown through the near-term money/budget for design issues. Maybe you can't rehire the designer/programmer to rearrange and re-emphasize and de-emphasize some parts of the new look even if you wanted to. Are you just defending the new look in its entirety and hoping most disgruntled users slowly change their minds? If so, that's just not listening to the consumer. Actual consumer opinions are more important than focus group opinions gotten before launch.

Thanks for trying something new. Truly. A change was needed. Some of the redesign changes are definitely for the better, but some others clearly are steps backward--which is exactly where you didn't want to go.

Good luck.
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I'm starting to get used to the new site design, but would rather have the radar at the top and get rid weather events and weather summary. Move the radar up so people don't have to scroll down to see it and move the weather summary lower down on the page. If I want to know what the weather is like somewhere else, I'll look it up; I want all the information about my weather available upfront, especially when there's a storm.
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Love the new style! Much easier to see coming weather at a glance. Frankly, I don't care much about 5-day forecasts; things change too quickly for them to be of much use to me. Sparklines, on the other hand, now those rock!
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great job weather underground. i love the new site. i have been
a customer for 5 years now and i like the change.  thanks again!!!!
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Add four more users that don't like the site displaying the new page. For all the effort to "improve" the page, WU could have placed an option somewhere to let us configure the new or classic site as our default page. I frequently use the moon stages for teaching my kids and trip planning for 5+ days out for myself. I'm seaching for another weather site to use until you fix the inconviences.
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I LOVE the new look! The classic is for cranky old-timers. This new look is so much cleaner and easier to browse through.
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The reason PayPal is now required is because eBay, who owns PayPal, gives a kick back to the web site for requiring payment by PayPal.

It is all about generating more money for the web site owner. ((Has eBay invested in this web site ??))


Quoting azm45:
I am sorry to see all of the changes Having been a member here for quite sometime I must bid you a fond ado...Not only have you changed the page for the worse but..now you want me to use PAY PAL for renewal..sorry I neither have NOR do I want a PAY PAL account...for all these years my credit card payment has been Just fine and dandy for you..I suppose that you get a Kick back of some kind from PAY PAL for having new accounts created from your sight..it is Truly a shame that you have ruined a Really Great sight for your commercial gains and you loyal fans dismay
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THE NEW SITE SUX...ITS ALL ABOUT SELLING MORE ADVERTISING AS YOU CAN SEE HOW BIG THE ADS GREW ON THE NEW PAGE...VERSUS THE CLASSIC...SHAME THEY HAD TO RUIN A GREAT WEATHERSITE... :0(
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Whoa!!!

If what azm45 says is accurate, I too shall not renew when the time comes........ I hate very few entities, but PayPal? The few humans they employ all graduated from the Mike Tyson charm school.....

The camel is searching for the Doan's pills.......
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the new web site just plain sucks and they are going to dig in an never admit it. So I have to go find another weather web site like everyone else. somebody at the weather underground should lose their job for the way you butchered what was the best weather web site there was.
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623. azm45
I am sorry to see all of the changes Having been a member here for quite sometime I must bid you a fond ado...Not only have you changed the page for the worse but..now you want me to use PAY PAL for renewal..sorry I neither have NOR do I want a PAY PAL account...for all these years my credit card payment has been Just fine and dandy for you..I suppose that you get a Kick back of some kind from PAY PAL for having new accounts created from your sight..it is Truly a shame that you have ruined a Really Great sight for your commercial gains and you loyal fans dismay
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Been using road trip planner a lot recently. It would be fun if you could develop a marine - boat trip planner, with longer journeys, chart overlays, etc.
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For my very unscientific poll...... 'Just how many of you folks make outdoor/travel plans based on the 4th or 5th day of a 5 day forecast ? I fear the response.....

62, sunny and breezy @ Ft.Morgan , AL......
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Sorry to say that the re-design is a real disappointment. In the classic site I have everything I need on one screen. In particular the forecast lets me see 5 days of text forecasts with a reasonable amount of detail, all at once without scrolling. The new design shows a bare minimum of forecast data and forces me to click each day to see the detail. I don't like the re-design at all, and I don't think you've improved the site.

PLEASE!!! Don't take the classic away.
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The new design is a lot like Facebook with white/open- space background with smaller text and blue font. Blank/open look down both sides. Clean and simple yet modern and classy. Guess Facebook is driving the bus right now.
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The new design is really okay. I like the "Weather Summary" and "Weather History" on the right side of the page, but it is amazing to me that no one has yet fixed the bug which prevents saving preferences under "Settings." I would like to get back to showing both metric and English, and to using British-preferred spellings, but every time I try the settings revert. I can set the units to celsius, and this works for the numbers in the "Current Conditions" and "Forecast," but in the text "Regional Forecast" the units are still Fahrenheit.
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I have tried to like the new look, but I can't seem to get used to it. It's not as well organized intuitively like the old look. Please, is there a way to make the classic look the default page!
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1. When will bug preventing display of English and metric units be fixed.
2. Can you separate it? I think Fahrenheit and millibars, but can interpret if needed...
3. Like the icon and temp on favorites
4. don't like having to scroll sown for pressure and tiny radar shot. These would be better to the right in place of world events
5. Love the weather synopsis by your forecasters, and now only go to NOAA scientific discussion when prepping for an event, not daily.
6. Your synopsis might occasionally add a contingency when there is significant divergence in to models in the next 24 hours or a big question of where the wet/dry line will be.

On balance I prefer the clean look of the new site and have found where to get all the data I used before. If it is not too costly, you might consider a MY Weather page set of preferences, like My Yahoo or iGoogle which might satisfy some of the commenters who complain about change.
Keep up the great work!! KNYFISHE1
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Lose the Classic site, and you lose my participation.
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Thank you for putting the quick tabs back at the top of the page. That was my only complaint about the new site. I did not like having to scroll down to the bottom all the time. But you fix it so now I'm happy.
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I have now gotten used to the new interface and am comfortable with it. It really does have a fresh appearance. What I can't find is a running snow total for the current winter season. For those of us in Michigan, it's something we like to keep track of.
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It's really (the change) all about the advertising.

Just run the two different pages with and without ad-block - the difference is pretty clear.

I'm sticking with the old site option as I really don't need a blank 1/3 page and smaller print of the new version.

If the "new design" had been forthcoming about "hey, we need the advertising revenue," instead of calling it "new and improved" well. . . many here might have been more understanding about the change.

This "switch" is sort of like grocery store packaging - "NEW, IMPROVED, BETTER!" Then read the fine print on the container and there's less in the box.

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611. RRB
I have been a Weather Underground user for several years and like many people didn't like the new site.
I do now, especially after the small changes made. It is not perfect, but is nice, though in the classic view the info was more at hand.

Please, put the date on "Current conditions". It appears way down below.
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I LOVE the new site design!! Clean, organized, everything I want the most is in full view, and the rest are easy to find by scrolling down. You must have been reading my mind. Thank you!
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"This thread just proves the adage people don’t like change."

Actually I like change --- it's filled with unpredictable outcomes. For me the change the new design initiated is to look again carefully at other weather sites. I found that there are a lot of great sites now. Of them I like the Accuweather and Nat'l weather service sites the best.
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Just so you know, with the new style you can't see both C and F temps (despite confirming it in preferences twice) upon clicking on the classic style you get both.

Small bug.
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I preferred the old site because the information I wanted was right there, without scrolling (much) or clicking. If we have to do it the new way, PLEASE, at least tell us at the top of the page what percent of the moon is illuminated. Just "waning gibbous" doesn't tell us much. There is plenty of space there for another short line of text, "97% illuminated" or whatever. I'd also like to see 5, rather than 3, days' forecast at the top - and whenever it's known, please include the wind direction in the forecasts as you used to do.

I wish the photo thumbnail were nearer the top, too. It doesn't have to be bigger than on the classic site! It's more important for it to be easier to see. (The only downside to that was that I so often missed the hourly forecast because I liked the thumbnail so well that I clicked on it, rather than lose it, and got sidetracked by the photos!)

And it was great to be able to view the weather warnings and advisories by scrolling - yes, all the way to the bottom! That was still better than waiting for a new page to load, then going back and waiting for that to load again too.

Blessings (especially to fellow fans of the classic site. ;-))!
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My first impression of the new design was positive. I like being able to collapse the individual sections on a favorite location's page. I wish the sections were a bit wider, but the collapsibility helps. What I miss most is the ability to show the weather history for this location (at least I can't find it). Instead, I have to go to the history page and then enter the ZIP or airport code. Also, when I get the history from the weather station (classic view) vs the zip code (new site) I get quite different results, which isn't exactly confidence lifting.

Some of these things could just be that I don't know how to do everything in the new site yet. I'll keep looking as I have time, but if there is any documentation for the new site, it could be useful as well. I can't complain too much; I am using the free version and feel pretty fortunate to be able to access some pretty interesting views of weather data.
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@JUST LOOKIN..."YEAH...YOU CAN JUST BOOKMARK THE CLASSIC SITE FOR YOUR WEATHER...BUT ITS A PAIN...WHAT I DID WAS......CLICK ON MY OLD WUNDERGROUD WEATHER LINK...THAT BROUGHT ME TO THE NEW SITE FOR MY TOWN AN WEATHER..OK....THEN CLICK "CLASSIC VIEW" THEN...REENTER YUR ZIP CODE FOR YOUR TOWN...AN THAT WILL BRING BACK YUR OLD CLASSIC WEATHER PAGE FOR YUR AREA...NOW...BOOKMARK THAT INTO YOUR FAV. PLACES ON YUR PUTER...AN YUR FINALLY BACK TO NORMAL...IT WILL OPEN TO CLASSIC PAGE FOR YOUR WEATHER AGAIN....PROBLEM IS...YOU HAVE TO DO THIS FOR ALL THE WEATHER LOCATIONS STORED...LIKE I HAVE WEATHER SITES FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY STORED...UUGGHHHH....VERY UNHAPPY WITH THIS......
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Can I make the Classic view my default page when I login?
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JUSTA THOUGHT...ITS COMING UP TO A MONTH SINCE W.U. LAUNCHED THEIR DASTARDLY NEW WEATHERPAGE PAGE SITE AN I HOPE THEY ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS WITH A NEW POSTING ON TOP OF THIS BLOG...(I HOPE THEIR READIN THIS BLOG)...AN I SURE HOPE THEY KEEP THE CLASSIC PAGE...FOREVER...OR THEY WILL LOSE MOST OF THEIR BUSINESS..I THINK THEY JUST REDESIGNED IT TO SELL MORE ADVERTISING...THE ADS SURE OUR BIGGER ON THE NEW PAGE...PLUS...ITS SO MUCH MORE CONFUSING TO READ..:0(
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I Submitted the new site to w3c.org's validator, it reports 667 technical errors in the coding of the page. See: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.wunde rground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query= 97470&wuSelect=WEATHER&doctype=Inline

The key to cross-platform operation is to code to standards and test then your work against the standards organization's validator.
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I do not like the way the new site is organized. Its needlessly more difficult to find information.

Why can't we have an account-based Page Preference to use the classic site by default? Bookmarks work, but depending on what you click it will take you to the new site.

Not sure if I want to continue paying for this next year. I wunder if they are even interested in feedback.
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600. azul
So many hate change. If you just give it time and work with it you will find that this is a better site. You just have to play with it to find all that you are looking for, its there and then some. It really is not that much trouble. For those that are having trouble adding cities to there favorites, its right at the top of your page next to your favorites that you have (button says "Favorites") that will get you in to edit and add.
I think this is a great site compared to most others. The price is right and I find it very functional and you can still go back to the classic view so do it if you don't like the new.
I do think that they should have informed us before making the change but that is done and now its time to check my weather on this new site and play with all the Kewl stuff.

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I like the new design. Didn't use the old one that much so I wasn't very used to it, that might be why.

I see myself using this site more with the new design.
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This thread just proves the adage people don’t like change. I wasn’t happy about it at first either but i do have to say it is growing on me.
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