Redesign Update

By: Toby Skinner , 11:45 PM GMT on February 04, 2011

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It's been almost 3 days since the launch of the new site and as expected, we've had a huge amount of feedback from you all. We appreciate all of your comments - both the positive and negative - and rest assured that we are listening to each and every one of you. We would like to address some of the recurring concerns that have been raised:

How long will the classic site be available?
The classic site is not going anywhere. We will be running it alongside the new site but as we add new features and data the classic site will not benefit from these additions. For further reassurance, I can tell you that we are still running our Telnet site from back in 1992 before The Internet took over.

Why change for the sake of change?
We are one of the oldest sites on the Internet and this new site design is the first major overhaul of the user interface for 16 years. The fact that we have had one overhaul in 16 years demonstrates that we do not 'change for the sake of change'. We have added so much data and so many new products over the years that we simply had to re-organize the architecture of the site. Also, we appreciate how much our loyal users love the appearance of the classic site, but for visitors less familiar with it, the brand impression was not always so positive. We have conducted research that showed that many people did not trust the weather data on the classic site because of its dated appearance. Of course our existing users remain our number one priority and these changes are designed to enhance your experience - but to continue to be here and provide you with our unique quality of data then we have to appeal to a wide audience.

I can't find data on the city forecast page?
The number one rule that we set ourselves when looking at the city forecast page was that absolutely no data could be taken away from our users. The focus of the redesign was to instantly surface as much data as possible for our users - but with a layout that doesn't feel like such a data overload. Despite its cleaner appearance, there is in fact more data available on the city forecast page than before, without having to click to a new page.

Why has the 5-day Forecast been moved further down the page?
We understand that some users are not happy about having to scroll down to the 5-day forecasts. We introduced the 'at a glance' data at the top of the page so you can see what weather is heading your way over the next 36 hour period. We could not keep everything at the top of the page but please note that the new city forecast page is more customizable for users with the collapsible functionality of the content sections. In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit.

Why did we launch the new site during major storms?
We had planned the re-launch for Groundhog Day for several months and we unfortunately could not have anticipated the level of severe weather activity that far in advance.

Are we 'going to do a Facebook' and keep changing the interface?
Again, this is the 1st overhaul of the site for 16 years. If you've used wunderground.com for a while you know that we are constantly making small changes to improve the site and this will continue on the new site. I can't promise that we won't redesign the site in 2017.....!

You can still go to your settings page and view both fahrenheit and degrees - it still needs some work integrating with the new site - we're working on it!

We will continue to listen to all of your feedback as we move forward with the new user interface. Ultimately, our focus is on delivering the most reliable and in-depth weather information - you can choose which version of the site you wish to view the data on.

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250. Donem
One thing you could've done is leave the annoying Interstate Batteries sponsor logos off the wundermap. How cheezy and unprofessional. I can't even block it by saving preferences. In fact you could get them off my default classic wundermap as well.
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The new site is.... not good. Difficult to read (theme is to light) and the things I picked Wunderground over other sites for are gone. Replaced with something that is hard to follow.
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Apparently management decided to take a relatively good clear site,dumb it down, hide the information and pass it off as an upgrade. The information I had at my finer tips with clicking on my favorites is no longer their. The five day forecast is hidden. I can't find a damn thing with easy. Congratulations you've added to the annals of SNAFU's in the world war to sense
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I don't like it period!
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I've used this site for years to supplement aviation weather sites. In fact, I've highly praised and recommended it everyone I know. I signed up today so I could say the following:

FAIL

You should have built upon something great instead of starting something, well...annoying. I won't be using the new version and I'm not encouraged by the lack of future updates to the classic version. I will no longer be recommending this site.
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once I figured out all the features and locations of everything, I really do like it! Good job.
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Am I being stupid I cannot find international weather!!! Why did it need fixing when it was not broke? Hate it, sticking with the old.
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Several problems. You can click on the extended forcast tab, but all that appears on the immediate screen is the same 36 hour forcast that appears above. Now you have it twice. You still have to scroll down. If you keep the 36 hours, start extended after that.

Also, what art major decided on baby blue clouds and moons. You have lost the contrast of the old site that would direct the eyes to immediately see what was needed. You could also bold and double the font on much of the page. Why give us white space? That is not what we want.

And finally, just take the weather "summary" off completely. If anyone wants to see a picture of a meterologist and a text diatribe, move that to a tab and give us the extended forcast back.

Question - where did the map of the "fronts" go?
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The new site is GREAT. It's so much cleaner and in just a few minutes everything that was there before is still there plus more. Kudos!!
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Long Time Member:
Signed Up: 2001-09-24 11:07:37

I used the Telnet interface back when.

I will continue with the Classic interface. I like the compact array of text and the ability to hide extraneous info.
I am also a pilot and I find the up-front access to basic aviation info much better in Classic.

If some people find the new design attractive, that's OK with me.

The fact that you are keeping all three options available is more proof that this is the best general purpose weather site on the 'net. It's easy enough to change my bookmarks to classic.wunderground.*
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I'm an airline pilot for a major carrier, and use Weather Underground almost exclusively for my personal weather data when planning flights. I access the NEXRAD page frequently during the months with high convective activity, usually from my iPhone. I like using the regular site versus the iPhone optimized site, as I like to use the Advanced Radar Types to view Echo Tops. When attempting to access this feature with the new site (Select Radar Type), I am unable to scroll down far enough to see that radar type. Is this is bug? Unless this is fixed, I will be forced to use the Classic site.
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WUG!

The new design is great! Beyond aesthetics (which has a modern and fresh look), here's why:

1.) Having the tabs on top of the page with drop downs provides "over the fold" access to places of interest within your Web site and provides a larger content area for the weather reports... and future feature expansion. The drop downs give quick viewing of major pages provided in your site.

2.) The main object of the page, the weather of the city of interest, is again, above the fold (for folks using monitors not powered by coal), packaged nicely with internal tabs related to the city of interest. Quick access to forecast, satellite, and others. The "Station Select" is great. I can instantly select and get data from a list of stations in the area of the city of interest without scrolling down to the long list.

3.) Collapsible content boxes are nice to hide areas that are not of interest. I would recommend a setting(s) for logged in users under "Page Preferences" to be able to have certain content areas pre-collapsed when logging in.

Overall, very nice work.

DAZ

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why, why, why?


Dead white space by the acre? Tiny print?
please go back.
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Yes, that's a very good question. Where IS the UV index? I can't find it either. Trying very hard to like the new site, but I'm finding holes in it...
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I used to see forecasts of each days max UV on the five day summary. I can't find such any more. Where can I see the estimated max UV rating for each of the next several days?
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I like the old site better. The new site takes to long to get the same info. Just put the new stuff in the old format
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I prefer the old interface. I'm most interested in the list of stations and like the ability to slice and dice by sorting temps, etc.
Definitely need to bring back the pressure, altitude and precipitation, also, being able to sort and eliminate MADIS stations (which in my area are not accurate, not updated and poorly maintained)
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Wundergrounders, you diffused my anxiety and resistance to the new site design with your great "learn more" explanation. It is a great lesson in transparency, and after learning your history (if it was there before, I never found it, but found the link this time) I feel much more actively favorable about this site. I noticed several new things - weather stickers, blog pages - so I think the new site design is working, it successfully enticed me to visit several pages. NICE WORK!
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Absolutely hate the new format.

1. Do not like my Favorites across the top, much easier to see/click on the left side in classic view.

2. Current conditions font is too small.

3. Weather summary is of limited use. Put the radar up top in a bigger window and move the summary down to the bottom.

4. Please make a setting available to default to classic view. (maybe only for paid subscriptions)

5. Earthquake activity? Get real. Please allow the user to customize how the page loads. (Select only those features/info desired to be displayed)

6. Hard to find old links (i.e. Snow Depth) on the new page.

7. Too much white space (i.e. under radar box and Weather Summary)
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I like the fact that I can fold-up (collapse) the sections that are less interesting to me.

I dislike the fact that I cannot see all my favorite cities on the left side - there's too much white space there which could be easily use for that display. I see that favorite cities can be seen on the top but that limits the number of favorite cities I can see (without having to click to scroll to right).

Also, the "stats for the day" tab could you add historical max and min too?
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230. dasar
The new site looks impressive but I think it is a lot more info than I need. I plan to stick to the old format for the time being.

Thanks,

Dave @DASAR
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The new redesign is fine. I can't see what the big deal is.

When reading all of the negative comments, please keep in mind that you are still making the "classic" format available.

Sometimes people complain about the addition of a new product, when company's old product is sitting, on the shelf, side by side with the new product.

Also-- thank you for providing all this information to me for the past few years, at NO COST TO ME.

Keep up the good work.
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Sorry ,

I think IMHO it needs more improvements.

Why do youall change things before testing them?

Well like the current administration ..

Vetting as well doing good due dilly is vital to all .




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My $.02 - I miss seeing my favorites along the left side of the screen. Having the favorites at the top keeps me from seeing all of them without scrolling. I also miss being able to see the 5 day forcast without scrolling. Fix these and I'll like this change better.
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226. sammo
New interface not the greatest, was very used to the old interface and it seemed to make plenty of sense.

I suppose you could bookmark the link to classic view.
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I've grown accustomed to the classic site over the many years I've been using it.

How about a "Settings" option to default to the classic site?

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From WU,

"In response to many requests, we have just launched a new tab next to the radar image on the city forecast page that will give you the 7-day text forecast in one piece at the top of the page. If you click on this new tab, it will remain the default for your next visit."

I don't think I see this tab, unless it's the 'Extended Forecast' tab, but that doesn't place the 7 day at the top of the page. Anyone? I'm trying to like the new design...
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Too much scrolling is required, but I also want the ability to remove (not just minimize) those features I know I'll never want. Weather Extremes, Weather Summary, Today's Extremes, Earthquake Activity, Community, Travel and Activities are as bad as ads. If I pay another $10 can I clean up all this clutter?
I don't need a Search Box or all the mentions of Wunderblogs, Weather Stickers, Facebook, and Twitter. Those ads for your services should go away too, please.
If all of that were cleaned up and the entire screen used for what I want, I'd spend less time scrolling.
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Have to reiterate, like someone else just did, this looks like the weather channel site, which is awful, frankly. I purposely do not ever visit that site anymore because of that layout.

Perhaps you could bring the classic site into the 21st century without altering the layout that much? Becoming anything like the weather channel site is not good, imho.
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Too bad that the new site follows the same trends you find everywhere else: less information spread out over more screen real-estate with more junk around and in between. The only good thing is that the classic site is still there. Better would be to move in the exact opposite direction. some suggestions:
-let me turn off all the useless features (weather events, weather summary, search box, tabs, menus, community, travel...)
-combine the forecast for tomorrow and that for the next few days (like in classic)
-reduce the height of all the bars across the top of the page, or better, put them off to the side (this isn't any better in classic: the "local weather, ..." menu takes up 25% of vertical space and is entirely useless.)
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I must give a "thumbs down" to your revamp of the classic site. It lacks the concise and well-organized "at a glance" information that I am used to. In my opinion, much of the intuitive nature of your previous architecture has been lost.

I must thank you, however, for your commitment to continue to tandem the original interface. As I will frequently lock a commonly used URL into my browser cache, I have not experienced the inconvenience of having to navigate through the new site to get to classic.

KWIOCONO3 (CW8408)
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To make the classic site your default, get rid of all your old WU bookmarks, and replace them with ones starting with "classic.wunderground.com" instead of "www.wunderground.com". Only way I can see to do this.
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"We have conducted research that showed that many people did not trust the weather data on the classic site because of its dated appearance"

It is depressing to think that people are really that stupid. For me, anytime I see a picture forecast, without words, I don't trust it, because I presume it is based on model output statistics with no human input.
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I am glad you are still keeping the old layout available, although I wish it didn't take more work to get to it. The new layout is slower to load. It also looks a lot like the layout for Weather.com, which I specifically don't like to use for that reason.
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New interface SUCKS!!!!!

NUF SAID!
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I agree with a few things some others have stated. One, the favorites should all be accessible. I bet most everyone has 8 to 10 favorites - or more. I sure do and I glance at them every time I come here.

Also, as someone said before, perhaps you could position the forecast 'box' up where the 'Weather Events' and 'Weather Summary' are located. Lots of folks want to see that 5 day forecast, in icons, right up at top because it conveys a ton of info very quickly. Temp swing, weather conditions, fronts coming through, all this is conveyed almost instantly for 5 days out.

I've never designed a website, but is there some reason everything is confined to the middle 50% of the page? I mean, for example, it looks like that's why we only see some of our favorites at the top.
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I'd sent a note and realize that you are working through the new site's launch and the feedback. Perhaps others have figured this out and can help me? I cannot seem to get to HISTORY for my local weather sites (personal, NOT airports). When I go to history, the only options are airports. While this would be helpful if I lived next to the airport, I don't. Where is history for selected weather STATIONS?

I am switching back to classic for now.

UPDATE: So after a conference call that didn't require my full attention, I have now figured out where to get to the history for PWS locations... BOY that's a long way to scroll down. I would beg you to allow me to rearrange the page. While it's more pretty, I echo others in that there's way too much white space, I have to scroll for days to get to everything. I wish I could make my own tabs and have a single screen view of the key things I like to see. As a free member, I'm not sure if I'd get this as a paying member- others' comments don't suggest I would.
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Unfortunately, I really do not like the new WU. It is, as has been said, neither user friendly, nor attractive. When I sign in, I get a city/area that is not my own and have to re-click to get to my city. I much prefer the older WU. I, too, as another poster noted, would like to make the classic site my default.
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212. IKE
The favorites needs to be back on the left side of the page and ALL favorite cities should be listed without having to click and click to see the favorites beyond the first few listed.
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I'm liking the new format better since WU added the Extended Forecast tab under Current Conditions. However, my two biggest complaints are the location of the Favorites (they should be returned to the left side of the page; especially since newer monitors are now wide), and the missing rain rate in Personal Weather Stations (PWS).

And while on the subject of rain rate, I always personally thought the PWS's should show the running daily rain total as well. Again since monitors are wide now, adding both data sets should be no problem if WU utilizes the space correctly.
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i have asked how to make the classic view my default rather than clicking twice to get there. The new site is a disaster! No response from "customer service".
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Quoting tkeith:
One last question. If you ban users for posting a video of the "Three Stooges" why did you get them to redesign your website????

LMAO


Ditto.

Quoting shoreacres:
Re: the "Weather Summary" on the Local Page...

Anything my mother could write after five minutes with The Weather Channel doesn't deserve prime placement. It's so general it's nearly useless.

Move it somewhere else.


Again, ditto. When my husband logged onto your "new" site for the first time he said;
"What IS this? Where's the weather? Where's the five day forecast? This stuff (referring to the viewable information on the page) is useless! I can see what my current weather is by looking out the window!"

Updating a site to make it more useful and user-friendly is always a good thing. The new site is not more user-friendly and the vital weather information, like a detailed 5 day forecast and the radar, are what belongs above the fold.... not lots of pretty graphics and items of limited trivial value. And, IMHO, when "improving" your site, readability is key. The tiny gray and lavender fonts and pastel graphics are very hard on the eyes. The vast fields of white space are glaringly distracting and a waste of usable space, and plus, it makes it look like one of those free sites you can sign up for and post your family reunion photos on.

I'm really sorry that WU put two years into this update; it's really a shame that so much effort went into such a anti-climatic end. I think there probably were some really good ideas and reasons to rework the site, but from most of the feed-back I've read, it's a huge fail.

I don't begrudge anyone their opinion who likes the new site, but for many of us, it just doesn't offer anywhere near as much easily-accessed information as the classic site does. Good luck with the tweaks. I hope it comes into it's own and rivals the excellence of the Classic site.

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Regarding Monthly View, please increase size of daytime temperature 3X and bold it. Also, decrease size of date. That would make it easier to read at a glance :)
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I hope you didn't pay too much for the new design - too much white space, tiny unreadable fonts, and just not nearly as intuitive to use as the classic version. The forecast summary is useless - it gives a single temperature for the day, which here in New England is meaningless; what we are interested in is the forecast for high and low temp, and the time frame for same. Thanks for leaving the classic version available so I can keep using it.
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Re: the "Weather Summary" on the Local Page...

Anything my mother could write after five minutes with The Weather Channel doesn't deserve prime placement. It's so general it's nearly useless.

Move it somewhere else.
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One last question. If you ban users for posting a video of the "Three Stooges" why did you get them to redesign your website????

LMAO
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This new design is not your best work.

1. The script is very light and difficult to read.

2. One cannot easily maneuver from on page to the other.

3. The personal blog pictures do not all appear on the slide show. One must go back to each one and click on them. Some people can't even use the slide show feature.

4. One can still not go from the mail page to main blog without hittng numerous buttons. Very poor navigation thought went into this project.

5. Too many bugs not worked out.

I honestly like some of the new features, but this site is not "user-friendly" If this took two years to design, I would suggest you get a 10 year kid to do it for you in 2 days. What a wasted effort for one of the best weather blogs on the internet.

One last question. If you ban users for posting a video of the "Three Stooges" why did you get them to redesign your website????
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203. Dunn
I am totally underwhelmed by the improvement (?).
Good Heavens! What were you thinking?
Dunn
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Recognizing the fact that it takes a little time to get used to a new look but as others have said there are things like Weather Events ans Weather Summary at the top of the page which I personally find of little use. I'm a pilot and the Classic version had the Aviation section on the first page where now it's almost all the way at the bottom. I realize everyone doesn't have the same interests but it would be great if one can customize the page with personal preferences, having the ability to move sections around.
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The extended forecast tab is an improvement but still requires more scrolling to get the same amount of information than the classic site.

My biggest gripe is that 1/3 of the page is taken up by Weather Events and Weather Summary, which to me are useless. If I could collapse them, I would much rather have the extended forecast there and keep the current data visible.

Other than that there is just too much whitespace. Maybe this is used for ads in the free site, but it's wasted space to me. I would think that most people that bother to pay the membership fee would probably rather have more data at a glance rather than pretty gradient backgrounds.

Also the horizontal layout of the favorite cities now displays far fewer locations and the script-based scrolling is much slower than vertically scrolling the window (and harder to do via keyboard).

I can see the new site eventually being as good or better as the classic site, but it has a way to go.
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I hope you are working on the both option for temp.

This may be a fluke that is impossible to correct but i find it annoying. When I log on the initial current conditions page pops up with what i suspect is the link point for the cable service. Since that is a city on the other side of a mountain ridge the weather is considerably different and means I have to click on my location in the "favorites"
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