DirecTV to drop The Weather Channel from its lineup

By: TropicalAnalystwx13 , 12:45 AM GMT on January 12, 2014

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In the summer of 2008, NBC bought The Weather Channel; since this time, we have seen a transition from an all-weather channel to one that focuses more on entertainment shows and little around-the-clock weather coverage. This has angered many of the channel's loyal customers, and a good majority of long-time viewers have moved on. Over the past few weeks, DirecTV has been in negotiation with The Weather Channel due to the high number of complaints -- today, it was announced that DirecTV plans to drop The Weather Channel in favor of WeatherNation, a channel that provides 24/7 weather coverage, on January 14.

In an attempt to remain on-air, The Weather Channel has launched "Keep The Weather Channel", an initiative for customers of DirecTV to take action and prevent the company from removing TWC. The newly-created website notes, "For over 30 years, The Weather Channel has been the most trusted resource for disseminating timely information to help prepare and protect families across the nation against weather-related emergencies. But now DIRECTV is threatening to remove this critical life-saving community resource from 20 million households. We’re working hard to reach an agreement with DIRECTV to keep The Weather Channel in its lineup. You can help!"

The Weather Channel has suggested that you contact DirecTV or your local member of Congress to express his disapproval of the removal of the channel. To explore more and take action against DirecTV, visit: http://www.keeptheweatherchannel.com/

What are your thoughts? Do you agree with DirecTV's decision to drop The Weather Channel?

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52. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
1:59 AM GMT on April 21, 2014
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51. BaltimoreBrian
3:07 AM GMT on April 16, 2014
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50. Astrometeor
1:48 AM GMT on April 09, 2014
Quoting 49. BaltimoreBrian:
So TWC has been restored. Does your family subscribe to DirecTV?


Brian, here's your answer:

Quoting 37. TropicalAnalystwx13:
The Weather Channel was unable to reach an agreement with DirecTV regarding the 1 cent per subscriber pay increase. As of this post, The Weather Channel is no longer for DirecTV viewers (including myself). It defaults to Weather Nation's stream.

I'm sure a deal will be reached eventually, but for now...


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49. BaltimoreBrian
1:44 AM GMT on April 09, 2014
So TWC has been restored. Does your family subscribe to DirecTV?
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48. trHUrrIXC5MMX
4:28 AM GMT on April 06, 2014
Quoting 47. TropicalAnalystwx13:

Better late than never. My opinion on WeatherNation remains unchanged. Terrible coverage of significant weather events (including Thursday's severe weather outbreak). Boring atmosphere. Bring back TWC! :)

Speaking of The Weather Channel, it was noted in February that all discussions with DirecTV had stopped. It looks like they're off for good.


yeah, they dropped all the "striking" about it in their site
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47. TropicalAnalystwx13
4:25 AM GMT on April 06, 2014
Quoting 44. Astrometeor:
So, Cody, how's WeatherNation going for ya?

Haven't heard much out of TWC about the DirectTV thing in a while...

Better late than never. My opinion on WeatherNation remains unchanged. Terrible coverage of significant weather events (including Thursday's severe weather outbreak). Boring atmosphere. Bring back TWC! :)

Speaking of The Weather Channel, it was noted in February that all discussions with DirecTV had stopped. It looks like they're off for good.
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46. Cloudyinthewest
4:53 AM GMT on March 17, 2014
Hi TropicalAnalystwx13,

The California drought continues. I believe that Central California have seen the last of the rainfall until autumn. South San Jose total rainfall since July 2013 is 5.71 inches. If this amount stays the same through June 30th, then this will be the driest year ever and 1976 will become the second driest year.

I believe the forecast for this area during spring and summer will be dry with record breaking high temperatures.

In Nevada, there will be one or two more light snowfalls before May. Otherwise, many windy days, some rain at times with above average temperatures during the spring and summer.
http://youtu.be/EXAhtuCC1P4

Dave
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45. Cloudyinthewest
6:56 AM GMT on March 08, 2014
Hello TropicalAnalystwx13,
This is Dave and I thought you might like this video about a pro4 truck racing in the snow.
img src="http://youtu.be/dDzAFWtaCPI">
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44. Astrometeor
6:33 AM GMT on February 12, 2014
So, Cody, how's WeatherNation going for ya?

Haven't heard much out of TWC about the DirectTV thing in a while...
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43. Cloudyinthewest
5:31 AM GMT on February 12, 2014
Hello TropicalAnalystwx13,

This is Dave (DaveFive) from San Jose, CA. I have relocated to my vacation place in Lyon County, Nevada where I can watch the snow fall. I will continue to keep weather updates on the California drought as well as Nevada.

Dave
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42. DaveFive
2:06 PM GMT on January 24, 2014
I agree with DIRECTV's decision to drop TWC. It's not the same format that it originally was. I have old VHS recordings of The Weather Channel that my family recorded as far back as 1987, it was a hit then up through 2001. Then the format dramatically changed with the "LOCAL ON THE 8s" page as well as too many "STORM STORY" shows that goes on for hours and I could never find when the regular live weather forecast comes on as well as local on the 8's too. So I gave up watching as well as recording the weather channel "TWC" after 2001. I returned to the radio weather NOAA KEC49 as my weather source for the next ten years. After that I heard about Weather.com "TWC" on the internet, wow that sure was not an improvement, then I immediately found Wunderground.com it's the best internet source on the weather, I sure hope that doesn't change.
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41. Astrometeor
11:20 PM GMT on January 15, 2014
Quoting 375. TropicalAnalystwx13:

And that's the entire issue with today's blog. We're speaking about ourselves. Of course we know where to get our information, we're weather enthusiasts. You have to think from the viewpoint of the public, and how unaware they are of where to get their information.


Most people I know get there weather from either 1. an app or 2. the local station. The only mention TWC gets around here is the occasional joke...after all, they are the laughing stock of the whole winter storm naming scheme.
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40. Astrometeor
6:29 AM GMT on January 15, 2014
Quoting 39. wxchaser97:

You had you're Weather.com Gold up until last week?! Mine was cancelled sometime a long while ago. Trying to navigate the regular weather.com is a pain in the a** whenever I feel like looking at what they have to say for an upcoming weather event. Sure isn't the old TWC anymore.


I've stopped visiting weather.com completely. The only thing I go there for anymore is Forbes' TOR:CON, which is seems to be there for my mother's entertainment. And I have that page bookmarked now.

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Seriously, there's plenty of other places to get weather coverage when it's direly needed. To be honest, I HAVE NEVER turned the TV to TWC during a tornado warning here. NEVER. I always turn to the locals, because they have the up-to-date down to the street information on the weather. TWC just goes "oh hey, there's a warning for somewhere near Nashville". Okay...cool...but I want to know where in Nashville. Am I gonna get hit? Or can I take a breather? TWC doesn't fit the "we save lives" bill they've been running with the last few days.
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39. wxchaser97
2:20 AM GMT on January 15, 2014
Quoting 35. StephH:

The last straw was when they cancelled my Weather Gold subscription last week. (It was a paid subscription that gave customizable, ad-free weather on their site, with many valuable and easy-to-access maps and forecasts). The one last vestige of the Weather Channel that was focused on weather, and they took it away. I paid for that service for TEN YEARS (and happily). I was even a "Notify" subscriber for a while. (My secret shame.) But once they cancelled Weather Gold, that was the end for me. I have been a WU supporter since 2002, with a PWS since 2004, and I love having no-ad weather. The maps and forecasts aren't as good as my Weather Gold, but they have definitely improved in the last 12 years. And hopefully will continue to improve!

You had you're Weather.com Gold up until last week?! Mine was cancelled sometime a long while ago. Trying to navigate the regular weather.com is a pain in the a** whenever I feel like looking at what they have to say for an upcoming weather event. Sure isn't the old TWC anymore.
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38. VicVinegar
10:10 AM GMT on January 14, 2014
I hope DTV sticks to their guns here. Any time in recent memory I've actually thought to turn over to TWC, there is some show about gold mining or something on. Ultimately between locals and the internet, there is plenty of coverage of weather events.

Playing the "public safety" card here is pretty pathetic. TWC arguably has little value for actual weather any more, and even during a weather event, they border on tabloid. The naming of winter storms on their own just pushed it over the top. When TWC goes away, I'm sure you can find coverage of a someone getting blown around by a hurricane on one of the networks if you really miss seeing it on TWC. Maybe CNN will pick up Jim Cantore and continue to let him do his thing.
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37. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:08 AM GMT on January 14, 2014
The Weather Channel was unable to reach an agreement with DirecTV regarding the 1 cent per subscriber pay increase. As of this post, The Weather Channel is no longer for DirecTV viewers (including myself). It defaults to Weather Nation's stream.

I'm sure a deal will be reached eventually, but for now...
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36. DonnieBwkGA
10:17 PM GMT on January 13, 2014
Maybe this will be a wake up call for the Weather Channel to improve. My cable has another channel that just shows the local radar all the time and gives current conditions around the area in a crawl on the bottom. Really all I need. For details I just use the net--mostly wunderground and coolwx. I hardly ever watch TWC anymore.
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35. StephH
10:11 PM GMT on January 13, 2014
I'm glad to see someone post on this!

I've been watching TWC since the early 90s. I remember when they had "The Front" as an advertising campaign (am I the only one who remembers it? my sister and I loved that "bar" and wanted to go there!).

The last few years, TWC has degenerated into a station that has very little to do with weather. It used to be the only channel I watched, and it was pretty much ALWAYS on in my house. Yes, I'm on the extreme end, but I think people who visit Weather Underground probably can relate. ;) Now, I watch it maybe once a month, but I've gotten too jaded from turning it on to see actual weather and being instead greeted by some dumb reality show. Even their website has gotten worse and worse--the hyperbole is ridiculous. It's like I'm standing in line at the checkout, reading the worst of the trash mag covers.

The last straw was when they cancelled my Weather Gold subscription last week. (It was a paid subscription that gave customizable, ad-free weather on their site, with many valuable and easy-to-access maps and forecasts). The one last vestige of the Weather Channel that was focused on weather, and they took it away. I paid for that service for TEN YEARS (and happily). I was even a "Notify" subscriber for a while. (My secret shame.) But once they cancelled Weather Gold, that was the end for me. I have been a WU supporter since 2002, with a PWS since 2004, and I love having no-ad weather. The maps and forecasts aren't as good as my Weather Gold, but they have definitely improved in the last 12 years. And hopefully will continue to improve!

When I saw the notice about "storm DirecTV" that came from a weather.com bookmark I forgot to remove, I did some reading and decided I am in support of DirecTV. I am definitely NOT in support of TWC acting as though their non-renewal with DTV is a matter of national safety. What arrogance! THEN I saw that DTV has a new station of their own and I checked it out online. It was almost like coming home. :) Is it perfect? No, but at least it's about weather. I don't have DirecTV, but I did once, and I would consider switching back for it!

So that's my take. I'm sorry it had to end this way, TWC...I'll always treasure the memories (like the time I met Jeff Morrow in a Detroit snowstorm!) but the time has come to move on.

Thanks for letting me have my say! :)
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34. tsfab4
5:38 PM GMT on January 13, 2014
Since NBC took over TWC it has really stunk on ice. We don't watch it anymore. Got tired of their blatantly obvious political agenda of carrying the Al-Gorite nonsense to new lows. Every opportunity to use the term, "man-made-global warming" is thrown in your face, no matter what the weather is doing. With about half the country who believes the Al-Gorite doctrine of political agenda and the resulting mega bucks for his sorry butt is a sham, you eventually alienate them. Why intentionally remove half of your audience and market for political reasons? NBC has been shooting itself in the foot to move a leftist agenda forward for a long time. If you believe that crap then by all means call your congressman and tell them you won't know what to do without the almighty TWC.

Another major complaint by many, well, actually it has been a joke, is how TWC has decided in their hubris and arrogance to name winter storms. ??? They are dismayed that people laugh at them and the other media outlets of the world haven't followed their lead. Just another reason to say adios to TWC. Hubris, politically motivated agendas, banal 'reality' shows and their penchant for trying to make the weather sound more interesting and exciting than it really is, is reason enough for people to tune out. If I never see another TWC person standing in a hurricane in 100 MPH winds like a dang fool it will be just fine and dandy in my book.

Good ridden to TWC. Let the marketplace determine where people choose to get their weather coverage...and their political rhetoric.
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33. trHUrrIXC5MMX
1:14 PM GMT on January 13, 2014
They are losing customers... ( money really)

I guess not too many will hear about winter storm Pax rolling through. Lol
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32. Astrometeor
5:31 AM GMT on January 13, 2014
Quoting 31. TropicalAnalystwx13:
I have yet to here of an agreement. If none is reached, today is the last day to view The Weather Channel if you are a DirecTV subscriber.


Come on, it's just an adjustment, really. Someone should do a review of WeatherNation for those of us who will continue to see TWC.
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31. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:29 AM GMT on January 13, 2014
I have yet to here of an agreement. If none is reached, today is the last day to view The Weather Channel if you are a DirecTV subscriber.
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30. RobDaHood
10:03 PM GMT on January 12, 2014
Fine by me if they drop it. I think several of the above post hit the nail on the head. It's not weather news anymore, it's weather-tainment. Having a hard time remembering the last time I watched TWC, having become so infuriated that every time I wanted weather news, they were showing Storm Stories re-runs or something even less relevant.

As for major systems impacting the US, the big news networks covered Sandy and other storms pretty well. If you didn't know something was coming, having TWC on DirecTV probably wouldn't have helped you. In Florida, at least, the local channels give you a much better idea of what to expect than TWC, and usually with much less drama.

Also, people who don't pay attention to the weather aren't gonna be helped that much by having TWC available. I think we all know someone who has internet, has cable/SAT/local news that never knows what is coming unless we call them with a heads-up.

So...for me, I don't care. TWC has no value to me. Haven't taken the time to check out the new channel yet. Maybe this week.
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29. wxchaser97
7:34 PM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 27. etxwx:
This mentions the DirecTV/TWC dispute:

Weather Channel welcomes Champion forecaster: Former 'GMA' weatherman starts new show in March
From the article: "In a statement, DirecTV disagreed, noting it wants to renegotiate its agreement because "people now use so many other ways to retrieve weather-related information." It launched WeatherNation as an "alternative to provide 24/7 hard news weather coverage in response to numerous customer complaints that more than 40 percent of The Weather Channel's programming is dedicated to reality television shows."

40%?? Dang.

It felt more like 70%, with another 25% being sensationalized, hyped weather. That would leave 4% for commercials and 1% real weather. That's at least how it felt for me, lol. I then stopped watching TWC.
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28. BahaHurican
7:09 PM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 24. etxwx:


Yup. You could tell the moment TWC started using media consultants: "No one tunes in just for the weather! Use more gestures! Sound more urgent! Wear shorter skirts" :/

Naga5000...We are exploring alternatives to satellite. I'm streaming WeatherNation on a Roku box right now. And there is not a Prospector in sight. :)
Almost none of the original tv personnel are still with them.
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27. etxwx
6:54 PM GMT on January 12, 2014
This mentions the DirecTV/TWC dispute:

Weather Channel welcomes Champion forecaster: Former 'GMA' weatherman starts new show in March
From the article: "In a statement, DirecTV disagreed, noting it wants to renegotiate its agreement because "people now use so many other ways to retrieve weather-related information." It launched WeatherNation as an "alternative to provide 24/7 hard news weather coverage in response to numerous customer complaints that more than 40 percent of The Weather Channel's programming is dedicated to reality television shows."

40%?? Dang.
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26. etxwx
3:44 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 25. VAbeachhurricanes:


How do you like your Roku box?

So as not to highjack TA13's topic. I'll PM you...
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25. VAbeachhurricanes
3:37 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 24. etxwx:


Yup. You could tell the moment TWC started using media consultants: "No one tunes in just for the weather! Use more gestures! Sound more urgent! Wear shorter skirts" :/

Naga5000...We are exploring alternatives to satellite. I'm streaming WeatherNation on a Roku box right now. And there is not a Prospector in sight. :)


How do you like your Roku box?
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24. etxwx
2:53 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 21. GTstormChaserCaleb:
I miss the old TWC and Storm Center at 50 past the hour or when it was hurricane season and John Hope and Steve Lyons were doing the updates. There was nothing that compared to it. The music was good too when they were in Storm Alert mode. I always question in life why change something successful? And if it is because of money then I question peoples mentality and the word GREED always comes up.


Yup. You could tell the moment TWC started using media consultants: "No one tunes in just for the weather! Use more gestures! Sound more urgent! Wear shorter skirts" :/

Naga5000...We are exploring alternatives to satellite. I'm streaming WeatherNation on a Roku box right now. And there is not a Prospector in sight. :)
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23. Naga5000
2:31 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 16. VAbeachhurricanes:


Theoretically this is great, but the only possible way I see this working would be if it was provided over the internet, and if it is I am sure it'll increase the price of that as it would cause usage to go up and the internet providers would need to upgrade their infrastructure.

Cable companies probably can't afford this type of service, because all of the consumers prices will go down, but cost of maintenance and upkeep on the system will stay the same. While the idea would be economically better for the consumer, I am not sure it would be economically sustainable for the providers through the systems set up right now.

Just my opinion.


There are already over internet options. As far as maintenance and upkeep goes, cable makes plenty of money to afford this. We aren't talking about making cable companies unsustainable.

"The average pay-TV cable monthly bill in the U.S. was $86 as recently as 2011 (compared to $40 per month in 2001), and could rise to $123 per month by 2015, according to research firm NPD Group. As those prices continue to balloon, there is a bubbling narrative that suggests an a la carte system is the best way to cut those bills down and spur more competition from providers."

Simply we the consumer need more choice, more options, and less robbery. I know my quality of service and maintenance didn't improve 100% between 2001 and 2011 like my cost did.

Anyways, expect to see this "a la carte" system very soon. Nice talking. :)

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22. Tazmanian
2:20 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I wounder if Comcast will follow this idea
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21. GTstormChaserCaleb
2:18 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I miss the old TWC and Storm Center at 50 past the hour or when it was hurricane season and Bob Hope and Steve Lyons were doing the updates. There was nothing that compared to it. The music was good too when they were in Storm Alert mode. I always question in life why change something successful? And if it is because of money then I question peoples mentality and the word GREED always comes up.
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20. washingtonian115
2:12 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I had TMC removed from my cable provider because it just wasn't weathery enough (I know that's not a word).Even their website now seems to model after Youtube (another site that has gone down hill) or another popular social networking site (Facebook,Twitter).Not to mention the over dramatic titles now "Daddy said he couldn't do it (wah?).They aren't really about weather any more.Now their about money and how much ratings they can get and how more viewers they can bring in.
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19. VAbeachhurricanes
2:08 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 18. MAweatherboy1:
I agree with it. TWC is useless. I never watch it anymore, which kind of makes me sad considering I used to like it. The only remaining thing I like about it is Dr. Forbes and the TORCON. He's still best in the business and is really the only weather left on the channel. But you can just use the TWC website to get his thoughts if you needed them. So yeah, I'd say drop it.


Everytime I turn on the Weather Channel it is some show, not weather... It's mind boggling what happened to it.
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18. MAweatherboy1
2:05 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I agree with it. TWC is useless. I never watch it anymore, which kind of makes me sad considering I used to like it. The only remaining thing I like about it is Dr. Forbes and the TORCON. He's still best in the business and is really the only weather left on the channel. But you can just use the TWC website to get his thoughts if you needed them. So yeah, I'd say drop it.
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17. BahaHurican
2:04 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 15. Naga5000:


Not obvious, Time Warner took out Showtime during the last season of Dexter when demand was at high levels over cost disputes with CBS/Showtime. You cannot assume low viewership without data.

"The money behind cable deals

Most channels are owned by the same handful of large media companies that seek to maximize revenue across all of their channels,” says Greg Ireland, a research manager at IDC who follows the industry. “By bundling channels, they’re able to get carriage fees and advertising revenue on channels that perhaps wouldn’t get carriage if offered on their own. This model, while problematic for some consumers (and some pay-TV operators), isn’t broken from the media company perspective and they don’t necessarily want to make changes that upset the current formula.” Link


This article is an interesting one. The technology is all ready available. John McCain sponsored a bill that would force cable providers to offer "a la carte" service. Free Market economics dictates that those channels people do not want SHOULD fall by the wayside.

Think, the first cable company that offers this wins. Plain and simple.

Just do some google searches, these articles are everywhere...and this is the future of television.
Frankly I'd like to just order my SHOWS.... but that's not currently feasible.

The question is, will pple watch the new channel if that's all there is to watch? or will they feel brand loyalty and say TWC or nothing?
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16. VAbeachhurricanes
2:02 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 15. Naga5000:


Not obvious, Time Warner took out Showtime during the last season of Dexter when demand was at high levels over cost disputes with CBS/Showtime. You cannot assume low viewership without data.

"The money behind cable deals

Most channels are owned by the same handful of large media companies that seek to maximize revenue across all of their channels,” says Greg Ireland, a research manager at IDC who follows the industry. “By bundling channels, they’re able to get carriage fees and advertising revenue on channels that perhaps wouldn’t get carriage if offered on their own. This model, while problematic for some consumers (and some pay-TV operators), isn’t broken from the media company perspective and they don’t necessarily want to make changes that upset the current formula.” Link


This article is an interesting one. The technology is all ready available. John McCain sponsored a bill that would force cable providers to offer "a la carte" service. Free Market economics dictates that those channels people do not want SHOULD fall by the wayside.

Think, the first cable company that offers this wins. Plain and simple.

Just do some google searches, these articles are everywhere...and this is the future of television.


Theoretically this is great, but the only possible way I see this working would be if it was provided over the internet, and if it is I am sure it'll increase the price of that as it would cause usage to go up and the internet providers would need to upgrade their infrastructure.

Cable companies probably can't afford this type of service, because all of the consumers prices will go down, but cost of maintenance and upkeep on the system will stay the same. While the idea would be economically better for the consumer, I am not sure it would be economically sustainable for the providers through the systems set up right now.

Just my opinion.
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15. Naga5000
1:57 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 14. VAbeachhurricanes:


It is, but you shouldn't act like direct TV shouldn't be making this decision. They aren't dropping it because tons of people want it right? They are only dropping it because obviously a lot of people are not watching it.

The consumer has the ability to switch services as you said so they still are in control. How would you propose that would work? Who would maintain the infrastructure of such a system?


Not obvious, Time Warner took out Showtime during the last season of Dexter when demand was at high levels over cost disputes with CBS/Showtime. You cannot assume low viewership without data.

"The money behind cable deals

Most channels are owned by the same handful of large media companies that seek to maximize revenue across all of their channels,” says Greg Ireland, a research manager at IDC who follows the industry. “By bundling channels, they’re able to get carriage fees and advertising revenue on channels that perhaps wouldn’t get carriage if offered on their own. This model, while problematic for some consumers (and some pay-TV operators), isn’t broken from the media company perspective and they don’t necessarily want to make changes that upset the current formula.” Link


This article is an interesting one. The technology is all ready available. John McCain sponsored a bill that would force cable providers to offer "a la carte" service. Free Market economics dictates that those channels people do not want SHOULD fall by the wayside.

Think, the first cable company that offers this wins. Plain and simple.

Just do some google searches, these articles are everywhere...and this is the future of television.
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14. VAbeachhurricanes
1:48 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 13. Naga5000:


This is a funny argument. Direct TV does have that right, absolutely. You as the consumer should not allow a private company dictate what channels you can or cannot access. Most area have 2, maybe 3 choices for television service meaning your ability to access television goes through a middle man company when there is no need to, and on top of that your middle man company is ripping you off on the price per subscriber cost.

This idea is simply giving power back to the consumer, you don't want TWC don't buy it. Don't watch the Kardashians? Don't pay for it. Pretty simple and much cheaper to only get those 5 channels you actually do watch plus local, correct?


It is, but you shouldn't act like direct TV shouldn't be making this decision. They aren't dropping it because tons of people want it right? They are only dropping it because obviously a lot of people are not watching it.

The consumer has the ability to switch services as you said so they still are in control. How would you propose that would work? Who would maintain the infrastructure of such a system?
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13. Naga5000
1:39 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 12. VAbeachhurricanes:


Then don't use direct TV, they as a company have every right to drop the channel if they want.


This is a funny argument. Direct TV does have that right, absolutely. You as the consumer should not allow a private company dictate what channels you can or cannot access. Most area have 2, maybe 3 choices for television service meaning your ability to access television goes through a middle man company when there is no need to, and on top of that your middle man company is ripping you off on the price per subscriber cost.

This idea is simply giving power back to the consumer, you don't want TWC don't buy it. Don't watch the Kardashians? Don't pay for it. Pretty simple and much cheaper to only get those 5 channels you actually do watch plus local, correct?
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12. VAbeachhurricanes
1:35 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 3. Naga5000:
I answered on Facebook, but I'll do a copy/paste here anyways. :)

The end user should have the right to pay for the service if he/she wants it. Pay per channel television is the future of the industry. Essentially whether you think TWC isn't worth watching or the best thing ever, being able to make that decision yourself should be the thing. In no way should Direct TV be making these decisions for you.


Then don't use direct TV, they as a company have every right to drop the channel if they want.
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11. Astrometeor
1:32 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
The problem I have with Naga's idea is with what parents will buy with no regards for their children other than eliminating the good stuff. That's why I'm glad there are just packages, I have found over the years that I like new channels (AMC for example) and that I've dropped others (Cartoon Network) as I've outgrown some of the tastes.

If parents were allowed to select the channels individually...I'm half afraid that there wouldn't be any entertainment options, aside from say ESPN.
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10. nrtiwlnvragn
1:32 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
All about $
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9. beell
1:29 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
In a warming climate and the potential for an increasing number of extreme weather events, the tv weather business can be an advertising gold-mine on heavy weather days. I wonder how many folks watched Sandy on TWC?

signed,
cynical snark
;-)


ADDED: Oh yeah, great blog topic, TA!
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8. Naga5000
1:27 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 6. PedleyCA:
There was a weather channel on Dish besides TWC? I never noticed it. I no longed have Dish as of 6 months ago. Too expensive. I like Naga500's idea that we should be able to pay for only the channels we want, good luck with that though. I hope the new weather channel is a hit. No body every listens to the customers or they wouldn't have changed it. To quote John Lennon, "Live and Let Die".


Wish it was my idea, I would be rich. Some companies are currently offering the service. Link Although this is in its infancy. Many more will follow.

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7. BahaHurican
1:26 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 4. etxwx:
We have Dish Network and they tried to start their own weather channel back in 2010 after a fee dispute.
Dish Network is done with the Weather Channel; starts its own weather service
but it lasted less than a month. Weather Channel Remains on Dish Network
So if DirectTV does manage to pull this off...good on 'em. The Weather Channel needs a wake up call.

I wish Dish had succeeded, because the channel was an improvement...they actually showed weather! I have a hard time watching TWC for very long even if they are showing weather. There is too much "urgency" in their tone even if the weather does not warrant it. It gets old and it's harder to take them seriously when the weather truly is dangerous.

I still miss John Hope....*sniffle*

I saw the WN channel broadcast a few days ago... it felt really retro, like TWC was BACK.... it was also quite interesting to compare the two. If DirectTV has any guts, they'll put both of em out there and let people choose.

I agree. TWC needed this wakeup call. Additionally, it was a super-smart move on their part to get Doc to move this site under their umbrella. Can u imagine what would have happened if WxNation was linked to Wunderground? Real wx all the time for people who need real wx all the time?

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6. PedleyCA
1:23 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
There was a weather channel on Dish besides TWC? I never noticed it. I no longed have Dish as of 6 months ago. Too expensive. I like Naga500's idea that we should be able to pay for only the channels we want, good luck with that though. I hope the new weather channel is a hit. No body every listens to the customers or they wouldn't have changed it. To quote John Lennon, "Live and Let Die".
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5. Tazmanian
1:17 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
Quoting 2. Hurricane614:
I honestly think this was a good call. The weather channels barely shows weather anymore, replacing times with fishing shows, and mining shows. I think only about one third of the weather channel is weather. Maybe this will give them some sense.



And two ad. Two that the weather ch keep showing the same tv ad over and over it's getting annyoing
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4. etxwx
1:15 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
We have Dish Network and they tried to start their own weather channel back in 2010 after a fee dispute.
Dish Network is done with the Weather Channel; starts its own weather service
but it lasted less than a month. Weather Channel Remains on Dish Network
So if DirectTV does manage to pull this off...good on 'em. The Weather Channel needs a wake up call.

I wish Dish had succeeded, because the channel was an improvement...they actually showed weather! I have a hard time watching TWC for very long even if they are showing weather. There is too much "urgency" in their tone even if the weather does not warrant it. It gets old and it's harder to take them seriously when the weather truly is dangerous.

I still miss John Hope....*sniffle*

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3. Naga5000
12:56 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I answered on Facebook, but I'll do a copy/paste here anyways. :)

The end user should have the right to pay for the service if he/she wants it. Pay per channel television is the future of the industry. Essentially whether you think TWC isn't worth watching or the best thing ever, being able to make that decision yourself should be the thing. In no way should Direct TV be making these decisions for you.
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2. Hurricane614
12:51 AM GMT on January 12, 2014
I honestly think this was a good call. The weather channels barely shows weather anymore, replacing times with fishing shows, and mining shows. I think only about one third of the weather channel is weather. Maybe this will give them some sense.
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