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By: Skyepony , 3:06 AM GMT on October 01, 2010

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When to plant what & how in Florida, South Carolina.

In November the planting frenzy continues for all the state of Florida, heaviest for South FL planting some summer & most winter varieties still. Harvest should be picking up too with a mix of some early winter & late summer. The hot fall has found favor with some late okra & looks to be a great season for tomatoes, cauliflower & broccoli with Brussels sprouts not liking it so much. It's a good month for local diverse veggie eating. It's time to turn compost into your garden, improve soil & throw seed to the ground. Don't forget to rotate your crops, for example..legumes (beans/peas), followed by heavy eaters like corn/tomatoes, then root crops & leafy greens. Surround with herbs & flowers when possible. Below is what each part of Florida should plant from seed this month.

North FL beets, Broccoli, cabbage, Carrots, kale, Kohlrabi, Mustard, onions, radish. Last month to plant~ spinach, strawberry & collards.

Central FL beets, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, collards, kale, kohlrabi, lettuce, mustard, onions, english peas, radish. Last month to plant spinach, strawberry & turnips.

South FL all beans, beets, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, collards, corn, cucumber, Kale, kohlrabi, lettuce, mustard, onions, all peas, potatoes, radish, spinach, tomato, turnips. Last month to plant strawberry.

From the moon calender of the Farmer's Almanac

November 2010
27th-30th Poor Period For Planting. Kill Plant Pests, Clear Fence Rows/land.
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This is a look in the potting shed. The thing painted with clouds, a tree, grass & rainbow~ a background occasionally in garden pics. The door is a recycled coffee table top out of the trash. Actually about everything in there other than the sink & garden potting bench (garage sale $10) was picked up out of someone's trash.
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236. Skyepony
12:19 AM GMT on December 01, 2010
May see an invest in the EPAC.

Heard on the radio the food bill passed. The exemption for small farmers was included. Another bit of good news, i hope.
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235. seflagamma
10:46 PM GMT on November 30, 2010
I love your potting shed!

What a good place to work and store all your gardening stuff.. mine is scattered all over the place.

What happened this week with that
"Food Safety Modernization Act"???

I heard on the news they were suppose to "take it up" this week...

I hope enough people contacted them and said NO! We do not need this type of government regulation when it comes to our home grown produce and such.

crazy busy week and my vacation is over...back to work on Thur...
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234. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
9:59 PM GMT on November 30, 2010
you're welcome
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233. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
9:58 PM GMT on November 30, 2010
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #6
22:00 PM Réunion November 30 2010

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 02R (998 hPa) located at 13.5S 85.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving south at 3 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0/2.5/W0.5/12H

Near Gale-Force Winds
350 NM from the center in the southern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
12 HRS: 13.9S 85.8E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
24 HRS: 14.3S 86.2E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
48 HRS: 15.7S 89.0E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
72 HRS: 18.2S 93.2E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)

Additional Information

Last satellite imagery shows that system intensity is stationary with convection remaining confined in the western part. At night time, it is very difficult to localize the center that was very exposed during the day time. Latest available microwave imagery (TRMM 1611z] suggest a slow movement southward.

The system should remain in a low steering flow during the next 12-24 hours and most guidance suggest a southeastward drift. Beyond, the system should be caught within a westerly steering flow south of the low to mid level equatorial ridge and north of an upper to mid-level mid-latitude trough. Consequently, it should accelerate on an east southeastward track.

The intensity forecast is not changed still show a 24-36 hour window for intensification as the system should be under decreasing shear. Then, northwesterly shear should build back under the southern edge of upper level ridge. This wind shear might very temporarily improve divergence poleward, but beyond weaken very rapidly the system.
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232. Skyepony
1:41 AM GMT on November 30, 2010
I've had .6" of rain in the last 24hrs!!!

03S has been declared.

Hades~ Thanks for the updates.

My reply from Nelson..


Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 510, the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act.

This legislation would expand the authority of the Secretary of Health and Human Services to regulate food safety by more aggressively inspecting food production facilities and tracking food more closely as it moves through the stream of commerce. Incidents involving tainted tomatoes, spinach, and peanut butter are just a few of the recent examples that demonstrate the need for a more robust food safety inspection system. The bill would not modify the current jurisdictional boundaries between the Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

On November 18, I voted for a procedural motion that allows for S. 510 to be debated in the full Senate. I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers this legislation.

I appreciate your taking the time to share your views on this issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me again in the future.

Senator Bill Nelson
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231. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
10:06 PM GMT on November 29, 2010
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #2
22:00 PM Réunion November 29 2010

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Disturbance 02R (1000 hPa) located at 12.1S 85.9E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots with gusts of 40 knots. The disturbance is reported as moving south southwest at 4 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0/2.0/D1.0/24H

Forecast and Intensity
12 HRS: 12.9S 85.7E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
24 HRS: 13.6S 85.7E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
48 HRS: 14.8S 86.4E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
72 HRS: 15.8S 88.7E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)

Additional Information

Strong uncertainty remains in the current fix, despite some correct SMISS pass around 1130z and 1246z. It is very hard to find out the center. However those passes suggest that the low level center remains ill defined and elongated from west to east so it is assumed that the center is located near a very recent burst of convection east of 85.0E. Center has been relocated accordingly. Motion is an uncertain south southwest at 4 knots and all available numerical weather prediction models forecast a slow southward track for the system within the next 24-36 hours. On this track, easterly vertical wind shear might decrease under the upper level ridge located around 14-15S. Beyond 36-48 hours, the system should recurve southeastward and undergo again a northwesterly shear under the southern edge of the upper level ridge. Sea surface temperature potential remains rather good as long as the system will remain north of 16.0S. The intensity forecast is basically an update of the previous one and still shows a 36 hours window for intensification. Track forecast is a little bit faster than previously.
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230. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
8:52 AM GMT on November 29, 2010
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Forecast for area south of 10S between 90E-125E
2:00 PM WST November 29 2010

At midday, a weak low [02U] was located near 11.4S 86.1E. Although the low may develop over the next two days it is expected to remain west of 90E. On Thursday the system may approach 90E.

Tropical Cyclone Formation Potential
Tuesday: Very Low
Wednesday: Very Low
Thursday: Low
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229. Skyepony
6:35 AM GMT on November 28, 2010
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228. Skyepony
6:31 PM GMT on November 27, 2010
Forgot to post about that, copied the image address & all..

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227. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
3:09 PM GMT on November 27, 2010
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #7
0:00 AM FST November 28 2010



At 12:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 01F (1003 hPa) located at 16.9S 174.2E is reported as moving east southeast at 7 knots. Position POOR based on multispectral infrared imagery with animation and peripheral surface observations. Sea surface temperature is around 30C.

Convection has increased and organization has slightly improved in the last 12 hours. Cyclonic circulation is from surface to 500 HPA. Tropical Depression 01F lies in a region of low to moderate shear and under an upper diffluent region.

Most global models has picked up the system and are slowly moving it southeastward with some intensification.

The potential for tropical depression 01F to form into a tropical cyclone within the next 24-48 hours remains MODERATE TO HIGH.

Next Tropical Disturbance Advisory from Fiji Meteorological Services will be issued at around 20:30 PM UTC..
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226. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
3:08 PM GMT on November 27, 2010
a broad low level clockwise circulation centered at 0900Z near 8.5S 88.9E. Maximum winds are estimated at 15-20kt. Thanks to 0305Z ASCAT swath and MSLP is estimated at 1003 hPa. On the southern part of this circulation, trade winds inflow remains weak to moderate but is expected to improve on and after Tuesday. Within its foreseen slow southwards drift (LLCC is expected near 15S 87E on Tuesday), this low should undergo a favorable environment under the upper level ridge (decreasing wind shear and rather favorable upper level divergence). It should therefore deepen significantly.

SST potential remains good for development within the next 5 days, despite its decreasing towards the south.

Available models (CEP, ARP, ALA, UKMO) analyze this low and deepen it at a slow rate up to monday and then more clearly.

Tropical Cyclone Formation Potential
Saturday: POOR
Sunday: FAIR
Monday: GOOD
Tuesday: GOOD
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225. Skyepony
2:50 PM GMT on November 27, 2010
Good Morning Everyone.. Beautiful day.. all overcast with a light rain. A light, so far unmeasurable rain. Reminds me of winter..

Garden is great. 1st cucumber yesterday like butter. Snowpeas are feeding us. Lettuce has been handy. May get a taste of spinach today. Tomato plants are huge. I should have planted corn..
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224. Skyepony
4:16 AM GMT on November 27, 2010
93W is gone & one of the 3 in the southern Hemisphere yesterday. None look all that impressive at the moment.

Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Really nice here.

Did good on the Black Friday shopping today. My crack of noon approach at places that tend to restock worked well. Went for the 10pm rush at toy r us lastnight. Line around the store & then some. All the deals were sold out by the time I got in. What was left wasn't worth standing in check out 5 hrs for. Was treated to a flash dance out front.

surf~ great to see about the milk.

I know that look well.

Gamma~ Full holiday kick off mode here too. Garden is coming in. First cucumbers today. So good. Snow peas are putting out. Lettuce has been handy.

Thanks for coming by everyone. Hope all the holiday fun is finding it's way into your homes & your weather is perfect for it.

I had 0.07" rain tonight.

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223. surfmom
5:55 PM GMT on November 26, 2010
busy day here - so I'm off - got to check my garlic babies, clean out the hen coop, enjoy CollegeBoy and....bum, bum, bum...... cook a Turkey for the boy who decided to come home at the last minute

got some waves here, with a strong wind 16mph, would love to jump in ...but I'm still a wee bit banged-up..took a tumble while riding...

note to self: when there is a low branch - one can not duck in a western saddle the same way one can duck in an english saddle - best part was the expression on the Mare - she looked at me completely puzzled..."JUST WHAT are you doing on the ground?"

so I'm staying domestic today - I hope you are enjoying your day - love to you and your Tribe - 4-leggeds included!!
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222. seflagamma
4:12 PM GMT on November 26, 2010
Good morning Skye,

Happy Day After to you all.

And now the kick off to the Holiday Season!

Oh with the seaweed on Monday, all my cooking this week and scraps of fresh veggies/fruits/egg shells and coffe grounds.
my compost is looking good!

and this weather is great, finally getting into low 70's at night.

Hope you and yours enjoyed Yesterday and now the "kick off" to the Holiday Season is upon us!

glitter graphics
Free Glitter Graphics, Good Day Glitter Graphics
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221. surfmom
4:29 PM GMT on November 25, 2010
Finally Huge Victory Against Monsanto Milk
A few years ago, a number of U.S. states tried to ban "rbGH-free" claims on dairy. Monsanto, which owned rbGH at the time, helped found a group called AFACT, which supported the bans. AFACT was unsuccessful in most states, but it looked like they might win in Ohio, where the fight went to the courts.

Recently, however, the Ohio court came to its decision. First, they ruled that milk in Ohio can still bear an "rbGH-free" label as long as it also bears the disclaimer stating that, "[t]he FDA has determined that no significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rbST-supplemented and non-rbST-supplemented cows."

But there's more important news out of Ohio -- the court also challenged the FDA's finding that there is "no measurable compositional difference" between milk from rbGH-treated cows and milk from untreated cows. This FDA finding has been the major roadblock to rbGH regulation, and the court struck it down.
According to La Vida Locavore:
"The court ... [cited] three reasons why the milk differs: 1. Increased levels of the hormone IGF-1, 2. A period of milk with lower nutritional quality during each lactation, and 3. Increased somatic cell counts (i.e. more pus in the milk)."
La Vida Locavore September 30, 2010
With a federal court overturning Ohio's ban on 'rBGH-free' labels on dairy products, raw dairy producers and consumers can again bask in new hope. This ruling means that companies that want to clearly state that their products are "rBGH free," "rBST free," or "artificial hormone free" are now allowed to do so.
The fight for labeling of rBGH-laced milk has been ongoing since its introduction to the US market in 1994. Part of the concern is the fact that rBGH is an artificial hormone. The additional concern is that it's a genetically modified artificial hormone. Disallowing the labeling of rBGH-treated dairy essentially set the precedent for not labeling other genetically modified foods.
The debate about labeling of genetically modified (GM) foods has now flared up again, this time because the FDA is reviewing a GM salmon. If approved, the next step will be to determine whether or not the genetically altered salmon must be labeled.
This federal verdict opens the door not only to use rBGH-free labels; it also opens the back door, so to speak, for consumer groups to push for labeling of NON-GM salmon, should the FDA again decide the altered salmon does not need to carry a GM label.
That's one piece of good news.
In addition to that, this verdict is also significant because, for the first time, a court has recognized that milk from cows treated with genetically modified growth hormones (known as rBGH or rBST) is NOT identical to milk from untreated cows.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what concerned scientists and public health advocates have argued for well over 20 years.
Years before the FDA approved it, scientists like Shiv Chopra, who worked for what is now Health Canada -- the Canadian equivalent of the FDA %u2013were raising serious questions about the safety of rBGH milk.
For an insider's look into the politics that surrounded the approval of rBGH, listen to my interview with Shiv Chopra where he addresses this topic.
The recombinant (genetically engineered) bovine growth hormone (rBGH), is used to significantly increase milk production in cows. Treated cows can produce as much as 15-25 percent more milk. But this increase in milk production, and hence profit, has hidden costs, namely the cows' and your health.
There IS a Significant Difference Between rBGH Milk and Non-rBGH Milk
For the past 17 years, the FDA's has held on to their initial finding that there's "no significant difference" between the milk of cows given genetically modified artificial growth hormone and those that aren't.
This is an astounding decision, when you consider all the evidence to the contrary.
Recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) is a powerful GE drug produced by Monsanto that can seriously damage the cow's health and reproductive capacity. The milk produced by these cows has also been shown to be anything BUT identical to untreated milk.
In fact, as stated in the court's ruling, there are several compositional and qualitative difference between these two types of milk.
Hormone-treated milk is different from non-treated milk because:
It contains increased levels of the hormone IGF-1, which promotes cancer tumors. According to Dr. Epstein, excess levels of IGF-1 have been incriminated as major causes of breast, colon, and prostate cancers
Hormone use "induces an unnatural period of milk production during a cow's "negative energy phase." Milk produced during this stage is considered to be low quality due to its increased fat content and its decreased level of proteins, the court ruling states
It contains increased somatic cell counts (SCC's). This means the milk contains more pus, which makes it turn sour more quickly. Increased SCC count also affects the milk's taste, smell, texture and color. Raised SCC levels is typically caused by the high incidence of mastitis in rBGH-injected cows
These are what the federal court cited as reasons to determine that hormone treated milk is different from non-treated milk.
But there's more.
Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., professor emeritus of Environmental and Occupational Medicine at the University of Illinois School of Public Health, and Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, is one of the top experts on cancer prevention. He is frequently called upon to advise Congress about things in our environment that may cause cancer, and he has written eight books, including one of the best books on the topic at hand, called Got (Genetically Engineered) Milk?
Dr. Epstein points out several additional differences between rBGH milk and untreated milk:
Contamination of the milk by the GM hormone rBGH
Contamination of the milk with illegal antibiotics and drugs used to treat mastitis and other rBGH-induced disease
Increased concentration of the thyroid hormone enzyme thyroxin-5'-monodeiodinase
Increased concentration of long-chain and decreased concentration of short-chain fatty acids
A reduction in levels of the milk protein casein
All of these factors can cause or contribute to health problems.
This Hormone KILLS Cows
It's also quite clear that it's bad for the cows that are injected with this hormone.

One 1998 survey by Family Farm Defenders found that mortality rates for rBGH-injected cows on factory dairy farms in Wisconsin were about 40 percent per year. In other words, after two and a half years of rBGH injections most of these drugged and supercharged cows were dead.
The typical lifespan of a happy, healthy dairy cow (read: organically-raised) is 15 to 20 years!
Conflict of Interest %u2013 The Name of the Game
Despite being presented with these findings and concerns, which were also echoed by other experts such as Dr. Michael Hansen from the Consumers Union back in the early 90's, the FDA gave the hormone its seal of approval, with no real pre-market safety testing required...

How did that happen?
Well, considering the fact that several key FDA decision makers, including Michael Taylor, had previously worked for Monsanto, it's easy to see how the FDA could appear to be so completely unfazed by the evidence.
This conflict of interest also explains why the FDA determined that rBGH-derived dairy products did not need to be labeled, even though polls showed that a whopping 90 percent of American consumers said they wanted labeling in order to be able to avoid buying those products.
As it turns out, all of the major criticisms leveled against rBGH have turned out to be true. Since 1994, the hormone has been banned in Canada, New Zealand, Japan, Australia and all 27 nations of the European Union.
Still holding on: the United States...
Monsanto has fought tooth and nail all these years to keep rBGH on the market. One of their sleigh-of-hand tactics was to form the grass-roots organization " The American Farmers for the Advancement and Conservation of Technology," (AFACT).
To further the Monsanto agenda, this organization defended their "right to use rBGH." They were also on the forefront pushing to outlaw "non-rBGH" labels.
Fortunately, AFACT has been largely unsuccessful in spreading their propaganda and more and more dairies have switched over to being hormone-free.
Which Dairy Brands Offer rBGH-Free Products?
For a list of brands that offer hormone-free dairy products, such as milk, yoghurt and ice cream, the Organic Consumers Organization has compiled this user-friendly list. They indicate which brands are partially rBGH-free, and which have stopped using artificial hormones entirely.
This can be good to know, since many products still do not bear the rBGH-free label.
For example, Ben & Jerry's make their ice cream with milk from dairies that have pledged not to inject their cows with hormones. But Haagen Dazs, Breyers, and Baskin-Robbins have not followed suit, and their ice creams are labeled "all-natural" even though rBGH dairy is anything but...
Keep in mind that organic milk is also rBGH-free, even if it doesn't specify so on the label. Artificial hormones are not permitted in organic dairy farming.
That said, although organic milk is certainly preferable to hormone-laced milk, I still don't recommend it simply because it's still pasteurized...
You can avoid both the risks of rBGH and pasteurization by only drinking raw milk that comes from a small farmer you know and trust. This is the only way to drink milk if you're interested in protecting your health. is an excellent resource if you need help finding a high-quality source in your area.
Get Informed and Protect Your Food Freedom
Looking at the bigger picture though, this issue is about much more than milk. It's about protecting your food supply from all sorts of manipulation -- from rBGH and pasteurization to genetically modified crops as a whole.
A key way you can begin to do this is by avoiding any and all GM products, and there are many of them. Most processed foods now contain one or more GM ingredients.
To gain some insight into how best to protect your health from manipulated foods, I recommend exploring the Institute for Responsible Technology (IRT). You can discover the many hidden hazards of GM foods for yourself at Jeffrey's Web site:
I also highly recommend downloading and using the IRT's Non-GMO Shopping Guide.
As far as healthful, wholesome milk is concerned, I also urge you to a take a stand to protect your freedom of food choice by joining the Raw Milk Campaign to make access to raw milk a right for all Americans.
You can find Local Chapters and Chapter Leaders by sending an email to:
For more information about milk quality, listen to my interview with Mark McAfee, the founder of Organic Pastures. You can also find lots of valuable information on McAfee's website.
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220. surfmom
3:44 PM GMT on November 25, 2010
Indigenous Perspectives on Thanksgiving
"Giving daily thanks for nature's gifts has always been an important way of living for traditional Native peoples. The six nations of the Haudenosaunee, or Iroquois (Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Seneca, and Tuscarora), who live in New York State and parts of southeastern Canada, express their thanks in a recitation known as The Thanksgiving Address. Sometimes referred to as "the words that come before all else," this address is spoken at community gatherings, ceremonies, and even at some schools to start the day. The words express thanks for fellow human beings, Mother Earth, the moon, stars, sun, water, air, winds, animals, and more.

"Here is an excerpt that offers thanks for the food plants:

With one mind, we turn to honor and thank all the Food Plants we harvest from the garden. Since the beginning of time, the grains, vegetables, beans, and berries have helped the people survive. Many other living things draw strength from them, too. We gather all the Plant Foods together as one and send them a greeting of thanks.

-Haudenosaunee Thanksgiving Address

"American Indian peoples' connection to the natural world has been maintained through generations of observation, in which people developed environmental knowledge and philosophies. People took actions to ensure the long-term sustainability of their communities and the environment, with which they shared a reciprocal relationship. Today, Native knowledge can be a key to understanding and solving some of our world's most pressing problems."
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219. Beachfoxx
3:10 PM GMT on November 25, 2010
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218. AllyBama
2:38 PM GMT on November 25, 2010

Happy Thanksgiving!
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217. juslivn
4:08 AM GMT on November 25, 2010
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216. aquak9
1:34 AM GMT on November 25, 2010
Together is better than apart; blessings to all on this TurkeyRecycling Day.

My moaning and groaning about the lack of lettuce must've hit a nerve...for all the seeds I gathered last spring, ten times ten more found their way into the soil, and they are SPROUTING.

I easily have HUNDREDS of baby lettuce. Literally.

Be together and laugh. ♥
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215. GardenGrrl
10:24 AM GMT on November 24, 2010
Hi, Happy Thanks Giving to the You and your Tribe :-)

Gonna go out and get my green tomatos in a bit and stick them in a paper bag hoping they ripen. We are expecting a hard freeze.
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214. Skyepony
6:40 PM GMT on November 23, 2010
93W is new. The blob around Trinidad looks more interesting. Though that's landed a hair south of where I was thinking a week ago. Should be impeeded by land and as it hit more favorable conditions. More flooding for South America.


Pros~ Thanks. I always enjoy a good poem:) Have a great Thanksgiving!
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213. Proserpina
2:20 PM GMT on November 23, 2010
For each new morning with its light,
For rest and shelter of the night,
For health and food, for love and friends,
For everything Thy goodness sends.

~Ralph Waldo Emerson

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
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212. Skyepony
4:14 PM GMT on November 22, 2010
Moon Names: Snow Moon, Dark Moon, Fog Moon, Beaver Moon, Mourning Moon, Blotmonath (Sacrifice Month), Herbistmonoth (Harvest Month), Mad Moon, Moon of Storms, Moon When Deer Shed Antlers.

November was the ninth month in the oldest Roman calendar. In the Celtic tradition this was the beginning of a new year. The Celtic year ended on the eve before Samhain and began again on the day after. They considered it a Moon month of beginnings and endings and many still do.

The Japanese festival honoring the goddess of the kitchen range honored the women who prepared the daily meals in a back handed way. Commonly called Kami (deity), this goddess was important because, through use of the harvested food, she protected and provided for the family.

The goddess Hecate had many celebrations though out the year. November 16 was known as the Night of Hecate, the Three -formed. Hecate is part of the most ancient form of the triple Moon goddess as Crone or Dark Moon: Artemis was the Crescent Moon and Selene the Full moon. Most of Hecate's worship, and especially on this night, was performed in a three way crossroad at night. Food was left there as an offering to her. She was known to rule the passages of life and transformation, birth and death. Her animals were the toad, the owl, the dog and the bat.

In Tibet, they celebrated the Feast of Lanterns, a Winter festival of the shortest days of the Sun. Among the Incas it was a time of the Ayamarca, or Festival of the Dead.

Nature Spirits: subterranean faeries
Herbs: grains of paradise, verbena, betony, borage, cinquefoil, blessed thistle
Colours: gray, sea-green
Flowers: blooming cacti, chrysanthemum
Scents: cedar, cherry blossoms, hyacinth, narcissus, peppermint, lemon
Stones: topaz, hyacinth, lapis lazuli
Trees: alder, cypress
Animals: unicorn, scorpion, scocodile, jackal
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Old Sayings & Lore

* To cry for the Moon is an old saying that means you are craving or demanding something that you can't have.
* The word moonshine has two meanings. In the U.S., it means "illegally distilled liquor,: also known as "white lightning." An older meaning was "total nonsense."
* A waning Moon was considered an unlucky time for a marriage or birth.
* In English, French, Italian, Latin, and Greek, the Moon is feminine; but in all the Teutonic languages the Moon is masculine. In Sanskrit, the word for the Moon is mas, which is masculine.
* To the Chinese, the Old Man in the Moon was Yue-lao. It was his duty to predestine the marriages of mortals. They said he tied the future husband and wife together with an invisible silk cord that never parted as long as they lived.
* Although the Koran expressly forbids worshipping the Sun or Moon, many Moslems still clasp their hands at the sight of a New Moon and offer a prayer.
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211. Skyepony
2:10 PM GMT on November 22, 2010
Good day everyone.. Rain turned out to be 0.04". Happy with any amount at this point. Best chance has shifted a little north of me up toward the Cape.

Featured a pic by Virgo1048 of lastnight's launch. Nice to see someone got a pic of it..
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210. Skyepony
5:00 AM GMT on November 22, 2010
I'm excited.. I see more rain headed my way. Pasture Winter Rye is 4-5 inches tall. Had a bunch more come up today. With the rain things were startling me today growing so quick. Some tomatoes are as tall as me. Broccoli & cabbage are a few feet. Topped off a bunch more smaller pots. Have a lotta little plants I want to move out there this week. I bought seeds for alfalfa sprouts a few days ago. I'm thinking of having the kids tend them. & yeah~ that was some sweet pony riding weather.

Wabit~ glad to see winter has been taking it easy on you. Guess it's got to get cold sometime.
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209. whitewabit (Mod)
1:27 AM GMT on November 22, 2010
Hey Skye... how are things going...see your having some nice temperature... now if some rain would mix in it would be very nice!!!

though it got up to 60º this afternoon with a very light misty rain... temperatures will only be in the mid 30's on Thanksgiving Day...
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208. Skyepony
12:44 AM GMT on November 22, 2010
No Active Storms.. No seeing the launch from Melbourne. Did get rain though, enough not to water:)

LowerCal~ That is beautiful!
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207. LowerCal
9:53 PM GMT on November 21, 2010
Happy old school "blue" moon!

Moon and Sun are watching each other by SteliyanK73 Saturday October 23, 2010
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206. Skyepony
3:01 PM GMT on November 21, 2010
.24" total rain for the last 24hrs. Most of it overnight:)

Saw on the news lastnight the Delta 4 heavy is suppose to go tonight (sunday) at 5:58pm. This could make for a noctilucent launch trail.

Also by the old rules which was mistakenly changed in the mid 1900s by almanac mistake, tonight is a blue moon!
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205. Skyepony
5:55 PM GMT on November 20, 2010
My cabbage looks like that too. That's what it does.. Your looking a little frustrated for lavender. I keep trying different varieties hoping to find one that will flower before it dies. I'm giving these two 1% chance..

Hay at Kemfers in Malabar is beautiful at the moment.
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204. aquak9
3:53 PM GMT on November 20, 2010
ya'll are gonna make me buy some lavender...

I know cabbage is not a vine, but it's sure growing like it. I expected a head, but it's just a six-inch stem with leaves. Another silk plant? But it's growing. Guess I really don't know what a growing cabbage looks like.

Perfect weather today- overcast, no shadows, glowing light.
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203. Skyepony
3:45 PM GMT on November 20, 2010
94L is gone. 92A is new

LowerCal~ Thanks, let us know when they reschedule.

Aqua~ sometimes I like to pause it when the sun is right, or the cars light up the fog at night.

Patience with the garden. I've got a few brussel sprouts that stalled after repeated diggings. Feed it, mulch it & hope the weather turns perfect. Mine over all stalled about a week til we got that rain, not even a 1/4 inch but wow, lots of growth. & cabbage isn't a vine. I can't think of any vines other than sweet potatoes (planted last summer) that grow this time of year. Picture?

Surf~ cut off the occasional outside green leaves of the garlic & start enjoying today (well as soon as they have 4 or 5 leaves). I didn't get alot of bulbs last year but I had garlic leaves to cook/salad with 1/2 the year or more..

Looking at the pic of the herbs my lavender has near doubled.. hope keeps me in this lavender game. The ones from seed, only one came up. Made a tiny real leaf this week..

Planted 110 Videla Onions this week (in my best GA accent). Tomatoes growing about 8" a day, setting little ones, cucs setting. Glad I let some filler plants follow me home. Occasionally they turn a bad season start into a decent finish.

I took pics last week but never got them up.. Better luck this week.
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202. surfmom
1:56 PM GMT on November 20, 2010
Aqua -the few brocolli's that survived are in stasis - no cucs, nada mucho here at all. butttt - THE GARLIC seems to be singing this is where we belong and growing the best out of everything...... I'm sooo hoping I get the end result - but there's no guarentee's.

Gamms -just a few of my lavenders are hanging in -- lost most of them & as soon as it got humid
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201. aquak9
2:13 AM GMT on November 20, 2010
post 112- I can watch an everyday of dark, sun, dark. A day in ten seconds, it's my life.

Same as last year, someone (a GNOME???) has replaced all my plant with silk plants. They are not growing, not dying, soon they will need dusting. Can't believe gamma and you are looking at broccoli soon. I am still looking at four leaves.

Is cabbage a vine? Sigh...I think I've got the autumn gardening blues.
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200. LowerCal
11:23 PM GMT on November 19, 2010
This evening's Cape Canaveral launch was scrubbed. Any retry will be no earlier than Sunday but no date has been announced yet.
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199. Skyepony
1:45 PM GMT on November 19, 2010
Morning everyone.. Nothing to update as far as invests go. That blob in the central Atlantic may spin up & cause problems for the southern islands, Trinidad & Tobago in about a week.
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198. Skyepony
12:36 AM GMT on November 19, 2010
94L reprise is alive..

Hey Gams~ Sorry, I posted & ran off into a day this morning. It's ashes from a fire pit or fireplace that should improve the lettuce taste. Growing them in too much sun can bitter them up too.

The cauliflower & broccoli up here look amazing. Cooling off some tonight.
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197. seflagamma
1:49 PM GMT on November 18, 2010
and since it cooled off a little at nights a week ago, my broccoil and cauliflower has taken off and is really looking good. no "heads" yet but looks like it could happen any day now...
hope in time for holiday cooking.
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196. Skyepony
1:46 PM GMT on November 18, 2010
Good Morning everyone! It rained! 0.21"...It's hard not to be excited. Been really dry.

No Active storms.. Still wouldn't be surprised to see a reprise of 94L as it approaches Roatan & Belize.

LowerCal~ Thanks for the launch statues update.
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195. seflagamma
1:45 PM GMT on November 18, 2010
good morning Skye,

I have tried a few times and could never grow lavender here either... and I can grow almost anything...
I just assume our climate is way too moist for lavender...

Last year I told you my lettuce always tastes a alittle too bitter and I forgot wht you told me to do...

I took a few leafs of both types and it was still a little bitter this year ....
last year was it epson salt I added around the lettuce??? or something else... I did add bone meal last week. and it did not change the taste.
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194. LowerCal
2:18 AM GMT on November 18, 2010
YW, Skye. The Delta IV Heavy launch from Cape Canaveral has been pushed back one day. The new launch window is scheduled to open November 19 at 6:06pm EST. The stated reason for the delay is an issue with ground launch hardware.
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193. Skyepony
11:08 PM GMT on November 17, 2010
91A is new..

LowerCal~ Thanks a bunch for the heads up.. These quiet launches even locally.. not hearing alot about. I didn't know.
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192. LowerCal
6:02 PM GMT on November 17, 2010
BTW the launch window may extend for over four hours. Hey, they may not even be planning to launch it until well after 6:10pm but this is a National Reconnaissance Office launch and they ain't sayin'. ;^)
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191. LowerCal
5:47 PM GMT on November 17, 2010
A heads up for the locals.

That rumble you may hear tomorrow evening about after 6:10pm EST would be a Delta IV Heavy leaving Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

Photo credit: U.S. Air Force
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190. Skyepony
5:19 PM GMT on November 17, 2010
Wabit~ yep. We may see a reprise but for now the Navy has taken it down. Still expect Roatan & Belize to get the rain remains. Everything is gone except 91W is new. Tropics are quiet.

Fire season here is ramping up. Mims in North Brevard County is a fire this morning. Have some good friends up there. Probably not too bad or I'd have heard from them. Checked the over all what's burning in FL link up there. Many times you gan get an idea or preview of the fire checking this time of year. Very 1998ish.. Which with the ENSO pattern really fits...North Brevard to Jacksonville up the I-95 corridor maybe a real hot spot again.

Cole Brothers Circus was awesome. One of their best shows yet. One of the elephants had a baby & it looked so proud to be preforming with the big ones. SO cute. Nice lunge act with pairs of camels, llamas, zebras & adorable gray mini horses. Motorcycle stunt was amazing. Clown acts well done.
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189. whitewabit (Mod)
5:35 AM GMT on November 16, 2010
skye... yes 94 does look weak... dought it will make it to 45 kts...
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188. Skyepony
5:00 AM GMT on November 16, 2010
18W & 98S are gone.. Model performance on 94L is very similar to Tomas. CMC is out preforming with 21nm error. Was a little farther off yesterday. GFS ~72, has shown some skill (if we throw out yesterday). I still think Belize will bear the brunt. Roatan should see some rain from it too. HWRF is doing well so far on intensity (current 8kt error in the last 24hrs), it's leaning for a fairly weak storm.

Surf~ That is awful. News overall seems worse this week. Those local kids in the house fire. Hope they find the family of that kidnapped teen.. & lead in the reusuable shopping publix, walmart, winn dixie & etc bags from china..
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187. surfmom
11:49 AM GMT on November 15, 2010

NOT good news - what do you think???
Disappeared Gulf 'Swan Doctor'

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186. Skyepony
3:38 PM GMT on November 14, 2010
Fixed the floater shuffle. 90B is new.

Gamma great info about the seaweed!

Aqua~ Wins!!!! Yes lavender doesn't belong. Yeah it's not so much an internally taken herb.. more an external medicinal wonder, where all the others are wonderful "pot herbs & teas" (okay~ yeah Horehound tastes not so wonderful). It's also the only one that isn't a member of the mint family. Also acceptable is that no one I know can seem to get it to bloom & produce in FL where the others are much easier to grow here.
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