We're Not Alone

By: SayNoToTea , 2:36 PM GMT on August 09, 2012

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I have been chastised for stating my belief that even bloggers on this site through their posts are in a way contributors to the recent violence in our country and the climate of hate pervasive in right wing politics, as many say it's me just picking on my fellow bloggers. Well, I'm not alone.


Wade Michael Page Had Plenty of Accomplices
Submitted by Carol Morgan on August 8, 2012 - 7:45pm

It’s hard to believe America has experienced two mass shootings in less than two weeks. Yes, of course, everyone blames guns, but the motive for violence runs much deeper than the issue of easy access to firearms. Guns are merely the symptom of an acute infirmity; a gradual plague that’s sickened the national conversation.

Americans are gradually learning that Wade Michael Page was a White Supremist and Neo-Nazi musician who, according to his former employer, had “a problem with authority figures and women”. It was theorized that he mistook the defenseless Sikhs for Muslims because of their turbans and beards (as if his Islamophobia somehow understandably justified the heinous act).

The media reported that Wade Michael Page was the lone gunman in the Sikh temple massacre, but the media is incorrect.

Wade Michael Page had plenty of accomplices in his hateful acts on Sunday. His accomplices may not be legally responsible, but they are morally implicated. They proudly label themselves as Patriots. That word has evolved from a noble tag into one that is cringe-worthy. Almost overnight, it’s become code-speak for every tin-hatted, gunned-up, birther buddy, conspiracy-theory-paranoia about golf courses and the United Nations, with a few vulture capitalists thrown in for good measure. In reality, the Tea Party Patriots are evolving into a ranting fundamentalist faction with the irrational belief that losing a policy debate over health care, economic recovery or immigration is an apocalyptic end to freedom as we know it. They speak in hyperbole and histrionics and their eager audience is a crowd of weak-minded individuals with tenuous control over their impulses. These faithful followers act on their hate and fears because of imaginary enemies, straight out of Orwell’s 1984.

The North American Interpress Service offered an article on Monday, claiming the Tea Party has close ties with hate groups. You may read the article in its entirety here: http://ipsnorthamerica.net/news.php?idnews=3340 . It encouraged the Tea Party to examine its ranks to ensure that racists and bigots do not corrupt the movement's credibility.

It’s a legitimate request, but it’s a little too late.

The Intelligence Report has compiled an accounting of 22 men and one woman with extreme right-wing views who sought public office during the 2010 election season; five of those were elected to office. All of the 23 Tea Party candidates readily and openly identify themselves as Neo-Nazi, White Supremists, or "Patriots" and they are all supported by the Tea Party. While the Tea Party may have started out as a group who was protesting spending and government waste, they have been swept up by hate, racism and the Neo Nazism, through their own arrogance and inattention.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, hate crimes have exponentially increased in recent years. You can view the hate map here: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map The majority of states with the greatest number of hate groups have a common thread, their state education system is virtually broken, strangled to death by cuts to public education, initiated by Conservative Tea Party state legislatures.

It’s not only anonymous minor players fanning the conflagration of hatred, but nationally profiled members as well. The list of tactless and insensitive remarks is long: Michele Bachmann’s claim that the U.S. State Department is being infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, Louie Gohmert’s claim that the Colorado theatre shooting was the result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and his moronic question of why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter, Allen West’s claims that religious tolerance would “give away our country” and who could forget Sarah Palin’s infamous statement: “Don’t retreat, reload.”?

“We want our country back!” is a constant refrain of the Extreme Right. Well, you know what?

I want my country back too, but I want it back from the people who actually stole it from us--the Corporateurs of America, the Wall Street criminals, and the hate-filled Right Wing who consistently out screams the rest of us.

Ever since Man’s original fall from grace, we all have a choice to do good or evil. And that includes our words.

In America, speech may be free, but it isn’t cheap. In the age of social media and 24/7 news cycles, words are powerful weapons. Words have consequences. Words have costs. Sometimes the consequences and costs are more than we could have ever envisioned.

Certain political personalities, bloggers and media individuals need to account for their contribution to the high price innocent victims had to pay

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141. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
4:51 PM GMT on September 27, 2012
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140. originalLT
2:22 PM GMT on September 25, 2012
Hey "tea" are you still around?
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139. originalLT
12:07 AM GMT on September 14, 2012
I see where Sebastianjer is basically gone from WU. In a way, I feel bad.
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138. unclemush
10:36 AM GMT on September 10, 2012
Link GOP Congressman Tells Voters That Comparing Immigrants To Dogs Was Really A ‘Compliment’
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137. unclemush
10:22 AM GMT on September 10, 2012
I hope Jer doesn't forget to post the youtube video of him crawling through ground glass to vote for Mitt.He said he would do it enough times!
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136. unclemush
10:19 AM GMT on September 10, 2012
Link Former Mormon Explains Why Mitt Romney Should Never Be President
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135. unclemush
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134. unclemush
10:50 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
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133. unclemush
9:46 AM GMT on September 06, 2012
Link 33 Quotes About Conservatives/Republicans That Liberals Should Know About
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132. unclemush
8:01 PM GMT on September 05, 2012
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131. unclemush
7:27 PM GMT on September 05, 2012
Link Fascism Historians, political scientists and other scholars have long debated the exact nature of fascism.[27] Each form of fascism is distinct, leaving many definitions too wide or narrow.[28][29] Since the 1990s, scholars including Stanley Payne, Roger Eatwell, Roger Griffin and Robert O. Paxton have been gathering a rough consensus on the ideology's core tenets.

For Griffin, fascism is "a genuinely revolutionary, trans-class form of anti-liberal, and in the last analysis, anti-conservative nationalism" built on a complex range of theoretical and cultural influences. He distinguishes an inter-war period in which it manifested itself in elite-led but populist "armed party" politics opposing socialism and liberalism and promising radical politics to rescue the nation from decadence.[30] Mussolini said that Fascism is revolutionary against liberalism "since it wants to reduce the size of the State to its necessary functions."[31]

Paxton sees fascism as "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."[32]

One common definition of fascism focuses on three groups of ideas:

The Fascist Negations of anti-liberalism, anti-communism and anti-conservatism.
Nationalist, authoritarian goals for the creation of a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture.
A political aesthetic using romantic symbolism, mass mobilisation, a positive view of violence, promotion of masculinity and youth and charismatic leadership.
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130. unclemush
3:47 PM GMT on September 05, 2012
Link Extremists’ chase some Republicans toward Obama
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129. unclemush
2:14 AM GMT on September 05, 2012
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128. unclemush
6:01 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
Link ‘We built this’ RNC speaker complains about lack of government contracts.A speaker at 2012 Republican National Convention (RNC) castigated the Obama administration on Tuesday for not giving his business enough government contracts for it to grow, seemingly contradicting the Republican Party’s message that conservatives built their wealth without help from anyone else.

While that message, built off a misquote of one of the president’s speeches, was already hampered by the RNC being held in a structure built with government funds, the RNC’s selection of small business owner Phil Archuletta made their duplicity even more apparent.

“When President Obama came on board and pushed the stimulus, I believed my business was going to explode with work,” Archuletta, owner of New Mexico-based P&M Signs, said Tuesday. “Unfortunately, it never happened. The Democratic Congress and the Obama administration created a new procurement process that harmed existing small business contracts, which devastated my business.”

“President Obama talks like he supports small businesses, but his actions are destroying us,” he added. “His administration is putting us out of business. It is our turn to put them out of office!”

The problem with Archuletta’s rhetorical attack is that he’s one of the longest standing clients of the Minority Business Development Agency, part of the U.S. Department of Commerce. The agency’s New Mexico Business Enterprise Center even helped his company secure a $850,000 small business loan to build an 11,700 square-foot structure.
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127. unclemush
4:26 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
Link GOP Senate Candidate Supports Life Sentences For Rape Victims Who Obtain Abortions
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126. unclemush
1:02 PM GMT on September 03, 2012
Link Author Of South Carolina Voter ID Law Acknowledges Racist Emails
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125. unclemush
8:12 AM GMT on September 03, 2012
Link Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital
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124. originalLT
5:14 PM GMT on September 02, 2012
Surprised Sally is still on Fox News!
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123. unclemush
2:17 PM GMT on September 01, 2012
Link Fox News' Sally Kohn: Paul Ryan's RNC Speech 'Was Attempt To Set World Record For Blatant Lies'
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122. unclemush
2:15 PM GMT on September 01, 2012
Link The 5 Biggest Lies In Mitt Romney’s Acceptance Speech
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121. unclemush
2:06 PM GMT on September 01, 2012
Link Republican Delegate And Wife Are Offended By A Mexican Working At Epcot Center
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120. unclemush
8:29 AM GMT on September 01, 2012
Link GOP official says God chooses to bless raped women with pregnancy
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119. unclemush
8:06 AM GMT on August 26, 2012
Link Charlie Crist Former Republican Governor Of Florida Endorses President Obama
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118. unclemush
7:24 AM GMT on August 26, 2012
Link
The New New Deal
The Party of No: New Details on the GOP Plot to Obstruct Obama
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117. unclemush
9:02 AM GMT on August 25, 2012
Link Al Qaeda Organizes Hit On Navy Seal Outed By FOX News
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116. auburn (Mod)
7:31 PM GMT on August 24, 2012
Quoting LowerCal:
That is priceless, Aubie.


I ROTFL when I saw it..
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115. LowerCal
7:25 PM GMT on August 24, 2012
Quoting auburn:
This is just toooo funny not to share...

Rush Limbaugh Claims Hurricane Is an Obama Conspiracy to Cancel GOP Convention
That is priceless, Aubie.
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114. unclemush
5:27 PM GMT on August 24, 2012
Link TEA PARTY BACKERS: Organized Crime, Oil Theft.
Tuesday, March 22nd, 2011 | Posted by Veterans Today
TEA PARTY BACKERS: Organized Crime, Oil Theft
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Koch And Native-American Reservation Oil Theft
By Dave Johnson
Created 03/20/2011 %u2013 8:00pm
Koch money is a key driver of the conservative movement.
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113. unclemush
2:05 AM GMT on August 24, 2012
Link Reagan to Use Executive Orders to Bypass Congress
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112. misanthrope
1:14 AM GMT on August 23, 2012
Quoting unclemush:
Thanks Mis!
Glad to be useful.


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111. auburn (Mod)
12:47 AM GMT on August 23, 2012
This is just toooo funny not to share...

Rush Limbaugh Claims Hurricane Is an Obama Conspiracy to Cancel GOP Convention
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110. unclemush
5:46 PM GMT on August 22, 2012
Link snopes about my untruthful post!
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109. unclemush
5:32 PM GMT on August 22, 2012
Thanks Mis!
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108. misanthrope
4:45 PM GMT on August 22, 2012
Quoting unclemush:
Link Mitt Romney: “I was too important to go to Vietnam”

You may want to consider the source of that bit of "news."

Free Wood Post is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within FreeWoodPost.com are fiction, and presumably fake news.

Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction.

FreeWoodPost.com is intended for a mature, sophisticated, and discerning audience.
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107. unclemush
3:51 PM GMT on August 22, 2012
Opps bad link.
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106. unclemush
8:06 AM GMT on August 22, 2012
Link Why the GOP Is Scared of Ron Paul and 4 Reasons He Might Still Get the 2012 Republican Nomination
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105. originalLT
4:17 AM GMT on August 21, 2012
Could they charge him with statutory rape?
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104. Patrap
1:02 AM GMT on August 21, 2012
I'm a equal op kinda er, American, as I call stupid and well, irresponsible when I see it.

Like dis un 4 days ago.

Dem Representative Investigated For Having Sex at Rest Stop With 17 Year-Old Boy (Updated)

Minnesota district 7B Representative Kerry Gauthier is at the center of a criminal investigation by Duluth police. This is a particularly sensitive situation right now as incumbent lawmaker Gauthier will face Republican challenger Travis Silvers in November.

Police will only confirm that Representative Gauthier involved in an incident the Thompson Hill rest stop last month.

State Patrol will confirm that one witness approached a trooper around 11 at night on July 22nd to report an incident.

The State Patrol turned the investigation over to the Duluth Police Department. Police spokespeople say they are conducting a criminal investigation but they refuse to say why Gauthier was arrested.

However well placed sources today told the Northland’s NewsCenter, the incident involved a 17 year old boy with whom Gauthier was reportedly engaged in a sexual act.

UPDATE: Dem Representative won’t face charges. The sex with the teen was consensual
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103. Patrap
1:00 AM GMT on August 21, 2012
Well spathy I just post um sport.

I dont write um.

Fresca?
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102. misanthrope
11:36 PM GMT on August 20, 2012
Rep. Akin's comments may have been impolitic but the sentiment certainly isn't far out-of-step from the House Tea Party Republican ideology. Welcome to life under a Ryan/Romney administration.

How Todd Akin And Paul Ryan Partnered To Redefine Rape

"Under H.R. 3, only victims of “forcible rape” would qualify for federally funded abortions. Victims of statutory rape—say, a 13-year-old girl impregnated by a 30-year-old man—would be on their own. So would victims of incest if they’re over 18. And while “forcible rape” isn’t defined in the criminal code, the addition of the adjective seems certain to exclude acts of rape that don’t involve overt violence—say, cases where a woman is drugged or has a limited mental capacity. “It’s basically putting more restrictions on what was defined historically as rape,” says Keenan."
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99. Patrap
8:22 PM GMT on August 20, 2012
Seems to me the er, Rethuglican's have the "Rape" thing covered, er..dis week

But dat's jus me.

: )

RNC spokesman: Akin’s rape comments ‘biologically stupid’
By Joshua Altman - 08/20/12 01:32 PM ET



Republican National Committee (RNC) communications director Sean Spicer on Monday called controversial comments by Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) about rape “reprehensible” and “biologically stupid.”



In an interview with MSNBC, Spicer said that Akin’s comments will not distract from Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign and that the RNC will continue to focus on hammering Democrats over jobs and the economy.



Akin, the GOP candidate challenging Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) for her Missouri seat this November, sparked controversy when he said in an interview aired this weekend that pregnancy from rape was "really rare."
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98. Ashmore
8:08 PM GMT on August 20, 2012
-applicants must be between the ages of 15 and 31 and have arrived in the US before the age of 16

-applicants must have lived continuously in the US for at least 5 years

-applicants must be attending or have graduated from high school or served in the US military

-applicants must be free of convictions for serious crimes.

How in the hell do you know what they are!!!!!! They are un-documented illegal aliens you dolt!!!! Do you think they are going to tell the truth? Do you believe they are going to say "sure I kill and rape"? This is no game, this is our rights as a nation being thrown aside, and you worry about illegal aliens and then defend a decision that for all intents and purposes violates laws both State and Federal!! Wake the hell up and smell the coffee, our laws are there for a reason.....good or bad they are ILLEGAL....THAT MEANS BREAKING THE G.D. LAW!!!!!!! Thats the policy I am speaking of!
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97. Some1Has2BtheRookie
2:22 AM GMT on August 20, 2012
This is not going to set well with the women voters - Dumb looking for Dumber?
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96. Patrap
5:06 PM GMT on August 19, 2012
What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican Party?

I'll tell you what they did.

Liberals got women the right to vote.

Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote.

Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty.

Liberals ended segregation.

Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act.

Liberals created Medicare.

Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act.

What did Conservatives do?

They opposed them on every one of those things, every one.

So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, Liberal, as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor.

-Lawrence Donnell Jr.
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95. misanthrope
8:37 PM GMT on August 18, 2012
Quoting Ashmore:
Misanthrope, I will answer your question! Obama's policies do not really affect those in the immigration pipeline, or their ability to obtain a greencard, and/or citizenship. HOWEVER...Obama's policies do show a complete distain and outright criminal action in regards to our nations laws and policies. An illegal alien, is an ILLEGAL alien, it's breaking the law of our nation, subjecting the citizens of these boarder states to countless criminal acts, and possibility of loss of life due to the total disregard of our laws by these fine upstanding non citizens. Bob Clark for instance, writer of "Porkys" and "A Christmas Story", killed by a drunken illegal alien, people of every boarder town finding bodies and drugs stashed by these predators in their neighborhoods and yards! So you see, those in the pipeline are those we want, those who are willing to do it right, and wait out the process! Those who are not, have something to hide, and in that Obama is the biggest fool since Nixon......and you can bank on that! I mean what kind of example are we setting for those within the pipeline, they wait, try and fit in, but we say F-you, and allow those who have broken God knows how many laws to just skip the process that they who do it right find just and credible. I get it man, I really do, you liberals would save the world if you could, but before you jump in that phonebooth and change into your SUPER-LIBERAL suit ask yourself at what cost do we meander forward with such leaders, and their off the wall decisions!! Then ask yourself who will you blame when the walls around your safe and comfortable life come crashing down due to the total disregard of laws by those in charge of this once great nation. At that point will you yourself pony up and assume that responsibility?

It looks pretty obvious that we're talking about different things here. My comments were in reference to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals policy which grants young illegal immigrants temporary relief from the threat of deportation and a chance to apply for a temporary work permit. Among the eligibility requirements are:

-applicants must be between the ages of 15 and 31 and have arrived in the US before the age of 16

-applicants must have lived continuously in the US for at least 5 years

-applicants must be attending or have graduated from high school or served in the US military

-applicants must be free of convictions for serious crimes.

Seems unlikely that the folks who meet these criteria are going to be terrorizing border towns. So, what Obama administration immigration policies are you going on about?

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94. unclemush
7:05 AM GMT on August 17, 2012
Link Presented With Letters, Ryan Admits Requesting Stimulus Cash. After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.
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93. Ashmore
2:05 AM GMT on August 17, 2012
Misanthrope, I will answer your question! Obama's policies do not really affect those in the immigration pipeline, or their ability to obtain a greencard, and/or citizenship. HOWEVER...Obama's policies do show a complete distain and outright criminal action in regards to our nations laws and policies. An illegal alien, is an ILLEGAL alien, it's breaking the law of our nation, subjecting the citizens of these boarder states to countless criminal acts, and possibility of loss of life due to the total disregard of our laws by these fine upstanding non citizens. Bob Clark for instance, writer of "Porkys" and "A Christmas Story", killed by a drunken illegal alien, people of every boarder town finding bodies and drugs stashed by these predators in their neighborhoods and yards! So you see, those in the pipeline are those we want, those who are willing to do it right, and wait out the process! Those who are not, have something to hide, and in that Obama is the biggest fool since Nixon......and you can bank on that! I mean what kind of example are we setting for those within the pipeline, they wait, try and fit in, but we say F-you, and allow those who have broken God knows how many laws to just skip the process that they who do it right find just and credible. I get it man, I really do, you liberals would save the world if you could, but before you jump in that phonebooth and change into your SUPER-LIBERAL suit ask yourself at what cost do we meander forward with such leaders, and their off the wall decisions!! Then ask yourself who will you blame when the walls around your safe and comfortable life come crashing down due to the total disregard of laws by those in charge of this once great nation. At that point will you yourself pony up and assume that responsibility?
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92. Patrap
1:56 AM GMT on August 17, 2012
Indeed, only them Right Minded Idiots would slander the CnC for doing a Great Job.
I mean the Guy hasnt wore a Flight suit once neither.

Obama/Biden 2012 Semper Fi.


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91. unclemush
8:41 PM GMT on August 16, 2012
Link UPDATE 1-U.S. voters see Medicare as a top election issue - poll.Findings could have implications for Romney, Ryan
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