It's about using your brain

By: SayNoToTea , 4:08 PM GMT on May 26, 2012

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As we embark upon this Memorial Day Weekend, I thought a quote from one of our founding fathers and war heroes was in order. It's funny in a sad way that our first President would be considered a liberal today. Enjoy your weekend.

The foundation of our Empire was not laid in the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition, but at an Epocha when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period, the researches of the human mind, after social happiness, have been carried to a great extent, the Treasures of knowledge, acquired by the labours of Philosophers, Sages and Legislatures, through a long succession of years, are laid open for our use, and their collected wisdom may be happily applied in the Establishment of our forms of Government…” A theocratic or tribalist Right that argues for public policies by invoking divine revelation to some ancient prophet or immemorial custom dating back to “the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition,” is profoundly, radically un-American.

Gen. George Washington

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30. unclemush
4:55 PM GMT on June 05, 2012
Link Wisconsin Voters Report Receiving Robocalls Telling Them Not To Vote.From Eau Claire to Beloit, voters across Wisconsin are relaying stories via Twitter, Facebook and online message boards about anonymous “robocalls” from allies of Scott Walker, telling them–incorrectly–that if they signed petitions to recall Governor Walker, their vote in today’s crucial election has been recorded.
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29. originalLT
7:31 PM GMT on June 03, 2012
Well said Ash, but as you ask, how do we(as a people) do it? That is the question, and as always, the"Devil is in the Details" Settling is not the answer, as you say, taking it back is, but how?We are human beings, and as such we all have to deal with "Human Nature" and human nature has it's weaknesses and it's strengths. Some follow, some lead, some don't care(untill something directly affects them!). Your question is one I can't answer.
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28. Ashmore
6:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2012
That's another thing I really do not understand LT, that being the way in which our political system works. Why should it be the one with the most money wins the nomination for office all the time. I believe out there amongst the millions of Americans there are individuals who are overly qualified for political office. Those who understand the values that America was founded on, who get that if there's no money to be had, you cannot spend more! I person who is grounded in his values, and believes in the old time "roll up your sleeves mentality", and cannot be bought by special interest groups. Seems money and politics go hand in hand, and we as a "lemming" nation just follow right along as those who may really make a difference get lost in the shuffle. Why as Americans should we even begin to settle for the lesser of any evil, are we not smart enough to realize the game, and put a stop to it? We are so lost as a nation that a pretty smile, and fine words woo us into a voting for someone that has absolutly no experience to do the job that he was given, then in the same breath fight amongst ourselves as we falter in every catagory, unable, or un-willing to see the truth of the matter. Settling is not the answer, taking it back, and making the most of it.....is the answer.
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27. unclemush
4:07 PM GMT on June 03, 2012
Link Joe Walsh's Racist Remarks Exemplify GOP Bigotry and Blame Shifting
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26. SayNoToTea
9:57 PM GMT on June 02, 2012
Yes Ash, I was over the top, apologies. As a lame excuse I had just read an email from an idiot that actually threatened me. I'll address it later, not that the threat carries any merit. Just another idiot in a long list of the right. Right Nash? My header though is in reference to the latest writings of the far right criticizing intellectuals. It was the smartest men of our country that founded the USA and it will be the brightest that make it great again. I also agree with LT, the tea party is one of the most misunderstood groups in our country and it is why I speak so strongly against it. The mass is made up of Christian right wing hypocrites, but it is funded by corporate America against many of the same principles the tea party claims to stand for. As an example and something that has not been mentioned that I know of, is the tea party Super PACs. They are pouring money into state elections from all over the country, which will only take away the rights of states, something the tea party screams about daily.

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25. originalLT
8:20 PM GMT on June 02, 2012
Maybe what you say is true Ash, but as a people we must choose then between the lesser of several "Evils". That is the hard thing to do.
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24. Ashmore
3:14 PM GMT on June 02, 2012
LT, I just wiped out an entire entry, and started again, way to over the top! Anyway, I cannot lean toward any political party anymore. Corruption and blatant ignorance have all but soured me on the machine that we call big government. What I know is this, we as a nation are still in crisis! The parties be it Tea, Dems., or Reps., are not in our corner, as a matter of fact, I do not believe for one second that any of them even give a hoot what we as Americans think as long as their personnal agendas get top priority. See that's what I mean, look at Teas "about" statement, it could describe any party anymore.
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23. originalLT
1:31 PM GMT on June 02, 2012
I agree with alot that both of you say, but it seems to me that the Tea Party is,"slanted and corrupt" in an acceptionally evil and harmful way when compared to the main streams in both the Republican and Democratic parties.
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22. Ashmore
11:16 AM GMT on June 02, 2012
Easy Tea, I agree the Tea party is slanted and corrupt, but no more so than any other political party, that's all I'm saying. In regards to your quoting of our founding fathers, I am 100% in agreement with their ideas and statements, however in regards to some of your quotes....I believe that by quoting others, you sometimes limit yourself. What I mean by this is quote as you wish, however there are always opposing viewpoints from the other side to be found. Liberal thinking is polar opposite by conservative, and both have there outlets and can be quoted by those who wish to believe as they do. Like it or not Tea we both agree with each other, just in different ways, see I believe that by remaining in a neutral corner I can see the truth a little clearer than those who hide behind party lines. I believe in a smaller governement, one who worries about this country as a whole, and not one who believes in mandating the people, and lending aide to those who will not do for themselves. I believe in the freedoms that our fathers died for, not in limiting us by their beliefs, fears, or agendas. I also believe that peace comes from a strong and able military, the ability to defend ourselves and our allies is the surest way to maintain peace on our volatile planet, but we are also not a world police force, lending aide to those who refuse to help themselves, or those who hate us, does little but waste precious human lives, and diminish our standing in the eyes of those who wish ill upon us. So you see, we agree on much my friend, it's only small differences that set you and I apart.
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21. SayNoToTea
2:00 AM GMT on June 02, 2012
You're right Ashmore, I believe in what George Washington wrote. Just as much today as when he wrote it. If you choose to call it propaganda, so be it. As for close mindedness, you must also be right. I'm so close minded that even though I don't believe in abortion, I don't believe that it is my right to tell someone else what they can do with their body. I'm so close minded that even though I'm not gay I have no problem with gay marriage.
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20. unclemush
5:42 PM GMT on June 01, 2012
Link Republicans Elect Skinhead In Pennsylvania; Let’s Recognize Who Supports Nazi Beliefs (VIDEO)
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19. Ashmore
4:18 PM GMT on June 01, 2012
Seems to me that your "about" header could be a reflection of any political party, not just the Tea Party. All politicians are corrupt and in it for themselves and their own agendas, labeling a single party like you have either shows a extremly closed mind and tunnel visioned view of the political machine, or you truly believe the propaganda which you quote in your blogs.
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18. unclemush
12:32 PM GMT on June 01, 2012
Link Federal Judge Smacks Down Florida’s Attempt At Voter Suppression
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17. unclemush
3:30 AM GMT on June 01, 2012
Link BREAKING: MAJOR REVELATIONS IN JOHN DOE PROBE - SCOTT WALKER INADVERTENTLY ADMITS HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION
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16. unclemush
7:58 AM GMT on May 31, 2012
Link An American Disgrace: Convicted War Criminals Bush and Cheney Remain Free.It is collectively accepted that humans require laws to protect society because there will always be people who disregard the rights of others, and without standards that are generally accepted and followed, there would be perpetual chaos that would bring civilization crashing down. Some laws prohibiting murder, sexual predation toward children, and certain actions during wartime are universal and when successfully prosecuted, condemn the offender to societal scorn as well as incarceration. The stigma attached to individuals who have been convicted of a crime is a damning and lifelong curse that affects social interactions, families, and in many cases, the opportunity for finding gainful employment. For ex-president George W. Bush, finding gainful employment is not an issue, but as a convicted war criminal, he will forevermore share that designation with the likes of Adolf Hitler, Josef Mengele, and Osama bin Laden.
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15. SayNoToTea
12:17 AM GMT on May 30, 2012
And the hate mail keeps flowing, kindling to the fire as it is. When you live your life as you choose your politics, I'll be more apt to respect you. Right Nash?
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14. unclemush
8:06 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
Link Easy Reference Guide to the Koch Brothers' Activities
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13. unclemush
3:53 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
Link 10 Dumbest Members of Congress
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12. unclemush
3:52 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
Link Scott Walkers Latest Victim: Deer Hunters
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11. Patrap
2:56 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
LOL U betcha..
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10. originalLT
2:34 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
OK, is!
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9. Patrap
2:00 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
Seem's ?
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8. originalLT
1:43 PM GMT on May 29, 2012
Tea, oh for the days of Nelson Rockerfeller and George Romney. I think I mentioned, check out the latest Newyorker Magazine and check out the article on George/ Mitt Romney. Not exactly like father like son. Mitt seems to be courting the extreme right.
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7. unclemush
10:03 PM GMT on May 28, 2012
Link Article From The Past Reveals A Lifetime Of Dirty Politics For Scott Walker
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6. SayNoToTea
4:09 PM GMT on May 28, 2012
Here's a post that the far right doesn't want to see or want others to see. I have to laugh, GetReal laments over rising oil prices blaming it on the president. Where is he now? I dislike chickenshit people. I will be the same today, tomorrow and yesterday. Not some wishy washy poster who comes and goes. No need to lie and say I'm running for a Senate seat, right Nash? No need to become an Independant when my party faces big losses. Right Sebastian? Like me or hate me, I am what I am, an outspoken Moderate Republican who's party ties does not direct my voting preference. As someone mentioned in a past post. I am proud to be labeled as a Rockefeller Republican





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5. unclemush
9:44 AM GMT on May 28, 2012
Link Alan Simpson Slams Fellow Republicans For Unwillingness To Compromise
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4. originalLT
2:09 AM GMT on May 28, 2012
There is no coming "Martial Law", and there are plenty of guns to go around don't worry, especially in the South. Guns will never be taken away--maybe controlled somewhat, but never taken away. Just ain't gonna happen.
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3. TemplesOfSyrinxC4
6:19 PM GMT on May 27, 2012
Organized religion is the oldest form of societal control that usually has a rigid hierarchical structure with the social engineers disguised as prophets sitting on top selling guilt or fear.

There are countless quotes from the founders that make it crystal clear that they were for a total separation of church and State. There is no doubt that they would have been against 501c3 tax-exempt State-sponsored FEMA churches preaching Romans:13, the favorite bible passage of tyrants worldwide because it can interpreted as complete "submission to authorities" no matter how despotic they may be and that it is sacreligious to even question bad governments.



Romans:13 was used by "clergy response teams" in New Orleans after Katrina to get people to give up their guns, and it was a success. In my opinion, Katrina was a test case for the coming martial law and continuity of government plans.
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2. oregonbirdofprey
3:39 PM GMT on May 27, 2012
A theocratic or tribalist Right that argues for public policies by invoking divine revelation to some ancient prophet or immemorial custom dating back to “the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition,” is profoundly, radically un-American.

Perfect!
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1. originalLT
2:12 AM GMT on May 27, 2012
Well said George! Just don't say this at a Tea Party convention--they would boo you off the stage--if they could understand you.
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