Cold Weather in Denver: Climate Change and Arctic Oscillation (8)

By: Dr. Ricky Rood , 6:25 AM GMT on December 08, 2013

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Cold Weather in Denver: Climate Change and Arctic Oscillation (8)

I’ve been living with this cold weather in Colorado this week. If you look around at the Wunderground personal weather station sites, we’ve seen a lot of about -10 F at nights. It’s been causing a lot of grief for homeless people, animals and pipes. There have been a few record lows set. The whole Arctic air mass is starting to move east, which means it will get a lot more press. According to Jeff Master’s blog 80% of the country will be below average.

I thought I had finished my series of blogs on the Arctic Oscillation a couple of weeks ago, but this cold air out break takes me back. It that series I wrote about cold air in the Arctic that is isolated because of barriers caused by streams of rapidly moving air that flows around polar latitudes. I described wobbles in the streams that caused cold air to move south and warm air to move north. Here is one of the figures that I used.



Figure 1: This figure is from the point of view of someone looking down from above at the North Pole (NP). This represents a weak, wavy, wobbly vortex displaced from the pole. The vortex encloses cold air, represented as blue. The line surrounding the cold air is the jet stream or the edge of the vortex. (definition of vortex)

Figure 1 shows an idealized schematic of the North Pole as viewed from above. This is the weak vortex case, when there is a large wobble. In this case, the point X is cold and the point Y is warm. In a case of a stronger, more circular vortex, then the case would be reversed, with point X warm and point Y cold.

Here is a figure from the European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF), that I have marked up a bit. The colors are the temperatures at the 850 hecto-Pascal surface, which is about 1.5 kilometers above the surface. The 850 hecto-Pascal temperatures are a good indicator of where it is hot and cold at the surface.


Figure 2: This figure is from the point of view of someone looking down from above at the North Pole (NP). The contour lines on the figure are the height of the 500 hecto-Pascal surface, which is between 5 and 6 kilometers above the surface of the Earth. The colors are the temperatures at the 850 hecto-Pascal surface, which is about 1.5 kilometers above the surface. The 850 hecto-Pascal temperatures are a good indicator of where it is hot and cold at the surface. Figure from the European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF)

I drew a blue arrow showing that the cold air at the pole has wobbled off of the pole and it is pushed towards Colorado. To the west there is warm air, red arrow, pushing up towards Alaska. So while it has been cold in Colorado, it has been quite warm in much of Alaska. Though a less prominent signal, there has also been warm air moving up the East Coast of the U.S. The Alaska – Colorado contrast is a nice real-world example of what I showed in Figure 1. For completeness with my example, the big, black dashed line is the jet stream of air flowing around the pole.

There were several points in my series on the Arctic Oscillation. The first important point is that even in a world that is getting warmer, the polar latitudes become isolated as the Sun goes down for the winter and jet stream intensifies. In this isolation it gets cold, because there is no heating from the Sun and the polar latitudes have a barrier between themselves and the warmer lower latitudes. The second important point is this wobble, the pushing of air off of the pole in some direction. In this case the coldest air is over Greenland, Canada and the U.S. If there is sufficient wobble to push the air far to the south or if it gets pushed to some place it did not get pushed before, then it is even likely to have record cold. These points are all work together and are not correctly viewed as independent events. (I was recently annoyed by the parenthetical dismissal of global warming in this otherwise nice prediction of early strong lake effect snow in Michigan. The statement was essentially pockets of cold Arctic air should not exist.)

I will finish with the Arctic Oscillation. The Arctic Oscillation Index from the Climate Prediction Center is shown in Figure 3. The discussion in my Arctic Oscillation series focused on the positive and negative phases of the Arctic Oscillation Index. Much of the attention was on the eastern U.S. The negative phase was when it is likely to be very cold in the eastern U.S.



Figure 3: Arctic Oscillation Index for early August 2013 until December 7, 2013 from the Climate Prediction Center

In this measure of the Arctic Oscillation Index, the most recent times have been weakly positive, tending towards negative. (Perhaps suggesting movement of the cold air towards the U.S. east coast?) Perhaps more important Figures 2 and 3 together show that large undulations with warm air pushing far northward and cold air displaced off the pole can occur in other parts of the world when the index is weak. As pointed out many other times over the years of this blog, what goes on in the U.S. is not good instantaneous editorial content for climate change.

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Previous entries:

Climate Change and the Arctic Oscillation 2

Climate Change and the Arctic Oscillation 1

Wobbles in the Barriers

Barriers in the Atmosphere

Behavior

Definitions and Some Background

August Arctic Oscillation presentation

CPC Climate Glossary “The Arctic Oscillation is a pattern in which atmospheric pressure at polar and middle latitudes fluctuates between negative and positive phases.”

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Quoting 123. tramp96:

First of all it was your lame president that said he didn't care how high fuel prices went and he crippled the coal industry in exchange for higher priced ways to produce electricity.
I know of several utilities that won't cut people's electricity off in the winter.


My president? Obama's your president too, unless you're not a patriotic American.
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Quoting 123. tramp96:

First of all it was your lame president that said he didn't care how high fuel prices went and he crippled the coal industry in exchange for higher priced ways to produce electricity.
I know of several utilities that won't cut people's electricity off in the winter.


the coal industry needs to be STOPPED.. their dirty poisonous discharges are killing us across the globe.. if they were held responsible for cleaning the poison they create they would be out of business overnight. Clean Coal is a Dirty Lie..
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Quoting 110. RevElvis:
4 Reasons The Supreme Court Might Want To Uphold The EPA’s Cross-State Air Pollution Rule

When a power plant burns coal, it produces pollution: Sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury, particulate matter, carbon dioxide. As the plants emit into the air, more often than not the wind blows, and the mixture of harmful emissions travels across state lines.

Those states that create large amounts of pollution are called “upwind” states, and they are responsible for higher ozone levels, increased healthcare costs, and decreased air quality in their neighboring “downwind” states.

The issue of how to regulate it has long perplexed the EPA and the courts. Cross-state transport rules implemented in 1977 and tightened in 1990 were never able to effectively combat the complex problem. For example, it’s not just upwind states that bring pollution to downwind states. Some upwind states receive emissions from other upwind states which contribute to their own pollution problems. The EPA has thus deemed the cross-state pollution problem as a “dense, spaghetti-like matrix” of overlapping soot.

But in 2011, the EPA finalized its Cross-State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR), which promised to “slash hundreds of thousands of tons of smokestack emissions that travel long distances through the air leading to soot and smog, threatening the health of hundreds of millions of Americans living downwind.” CSAPR, according to the EPA, would achieve up to $280 billion in annual health benefits by preventing up to 34,000 premature deaths, 15,000 nonfatal heart attacks, 19,000 cases of acute bronchitis, 400,000 cases of aggravated asthma, and 1.8 million sick days a year beginning in 2014.

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Often, when they put stack scrubbers on line, all the captured poisons are then dumped into the coal ash piles, which again, often, leak into the waterways. So, the net effect is to move the poison from one medium to another.. BOTH impacting our health and well being. Clean coal is a DIRTY lie.
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Quoting 123. tramp96:

First of all it was your lame president that said he didn't care how high fuel prices went and he crippled the coal industry in exchange for higher priced ways to produce electricity.
I know of several utilities that won't cut people's electricity off in the winter.


Utilities company here in NC wont cut the elderly heating and lights off..if there is a person in the home with a respiratory illness or disabled they wont disconnect the service either..I'm not sure what company or companies are doing that but I think its a federal law..I have to look at my bill..
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Quoting 121. nymore:


Those profit margins are certainly high. Lets see how much say First Solar cares about its customers.Gross profit margins for FSLR

Data for this Date Range
Sept. 30, 2013 28.76%
June 30, 2013 26.95%
March 31, 2013 22.42%
Dec. 31, 2012 27.31%
Sept. 30, 2012 28.45%
June 30, 2012 25.46%
March 31, 2012 15.44%
Dec. 31, 2011 20.92%

I grabbed FSLR because it is the one I thought of first. I am sure you can find many more examples on either side. (green or fossil)

I agree age and health are certainly the main issue here but why not throw in some propaganda about fossil fuels to fire up the troops.

Have a good day everyone


First Solar manufactures solar panels and cells, so I suppose if its customers find the profit margin too high, they can buy their panels elsewhere. However, they do not supply the electricity, solar or otherwise. The energy companies who buy up the solar projects set the price for the energy produced. So here we are, back to fossil fuel industry again :)

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Be warned, it's a wiki link but informative anyway.
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Quoting 121. nymore:


Those profit margins are certainly high. Lets see how much say First Solar cares about its customers.Gross profit margins for FSLR

Data for this Date Range
Sept. 30, 2013 28.76%
June 30, 2013 26.95%
March 31, 2013 22.42%
Dec. 31, 2012 27.31%
Sept. 30, 2012 28.45%
June 30, 2012 25.46%
March 31, 2012 15.44%
Dec. 31, 2011 20.92%

I grabbed FSLR because it is the one I thought of first. I am sure you can find many more examples on either side. (green or fossil)

I agree age and health are certainly the main issue here but why not throw in some propaganda about fossil fuels to fire up the troops.

Have a good day everyone
What does the pricing of American solar panels have to do with excessive fossil fuel profiteering in the UK leading to the unnecessary deaths of possibly hundreds of the old, frail, and indigent?

TIA...
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Quoting 123. tramp96:

First of all it was your lame president that said he didn't care how high fuel prices went and he crippled the coal industry in exchange for higher priced ways to produce electricity.
I know of several utilities that won't cut people's electricity off in the winter.


Not to pour water on your campfire, but you did notice we were talking about the UK? "My" president doesn't make any decisions there.
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At some point in time..
The ice at the Martian North Pole ice mass will surpass ours here on planet Earth..

Click HERE



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Quoting 117. Neapolitan:
According to the National Health Service, the majority of those "excess winter deaths" were caused by heart disease, stroke, and respiratory illness, illness exacerbated by a more virulent strain of influenza. But the primary culprit--that is, the main reason so many elderly were left at the mercy of the cool late winter--is because gas and electricity suppliers have set profit margins so high that many of the destitute elderly can't afford proper heat in their homes. But given that the fossil fuel industry cares not a bit about severely disrupting the lives of hundreds of millions over the next few decades, why would a few hundred dead elderly Welsh folks bother them? After all, we mustn't stand in the way of profit...

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First of all it was your lame president that said he didn't care how high fuel prices went and he crippled the coal industry in exchange for higher priced ways to produce electricity.
I know of several utilities that won't cut people's electricity off in the winter.
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From The AGU:




Knowing the unknowns

Abstract


The Earth's atmosphere is not the only source of radiative forcing and anthropogenic climate change. As surely as people and civilizations have carbon footprints, they have albedo footprints as well. By altering the reflectivity of roughly half the land surface of the Earth in the past, mankind has made inadvertent geoengineering a part of the landscape of history. This worldwide alteration of reflectivity raises questions about the future of climate change, for albedo is a first-order determinant of the Earth's radiative equilibrium. As surfaces absorb roughly 100 times more solar energy than the CO2 in the atmosphere, future anthropogenic changes in both land and water albedo may figure significantly in climate policy outcomes.


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Quoting 117. Neapolitan:
According to the National Health Service, the majority of those "excess winter deaths" were caused by heart disease, stroke, and respiratory illness, illness exacerbated by a more virulent strain of influenza. But the primary culprit--that is, the main reason so many elderly were left at the mercy of the cool late winter--is because gas and electricity suppliers have set profit margins so high that many of the destitute elderly can't afford proper heat in their homes. But given that the fossil fuel industry cares not a bit about severely disrupting the lives of hundreds of millions over the next few decades, why would a few hundred dead elderly Welsh folks bother them? After all, we mustn't stand in the way of profit...

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Those profit margins are certainly high. Lets see how much say First Solar cares about its customers.Gross profit margins for FSLR

Data for this Date Range
Sept. 30, 2013 28.76%
June 30, 2013 26.95%
March 31, 2013 22.42%
Dec. 31, 2012 27.31%
Sept. 30, 2012 28.45%
June 30, 2012 25.46%
March 31, 2012 15.44%
Dec. 31, 2011 20.92%

I grabbed FSLR because it is the one I thought of first. I am sure you can find many more examples on either side. (green or fossil)

I agree age and health are certainly the main issue here but why not throw in some propaganda about fossil fuels to fire up the troops.

Have a good day everyone
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Can the Arctic be protected?

One of the more regrettable conclusions from 2013 is that the Arctic cannot and will not be preserved and kept pristine from the process of economic development. The resource base is too substantial, the opportunity too tempting. As in the Garden of Eden the apple cannot be left untouched. Development is starting and will continue. The next question is whether it can be managed properly.

The starting point is climate change. The melting of the Arctic ice cap is perhaps the single most tangible reality which even the most fervent sceptics cannot deny. Melting ice has opened up the seaways. A set of excellent articles in the latest issue of National Geographic magazine spells out the details. The number of ships making the transit through the Northern Sea Route has gone up by 50 per cent over the past year to more than 70. In 2010 just four made the same journey.

Russia stands to gain in many ways from climate change but this represents the first and most obvious result, opening up the prospect of a major new route for trade between east and west which could reshape global shipping patterns. The journey of the first Chinese vessel to undertake the Arctic transit from Dailan to Rotterdam was nine days and 2,800 nautical miles shorter than a trip through the Suez Canal. At the same time tourism is growing – a million visitors to the Arctic are expected next year – and raised all sorts of requirements and commercial possibilities, from hotels and infrastructure to imported food supplies.

But, of course, the biggest prizes are the oil and gas resources. According to the consensus of estimates published by the US Geological Survey the area north of the Arctic Circle holds some 13 per cent of the world’s undiscovered oil and as much as 30 per cent of the undiscovered gas. Some think those are very conservative numbers. No one knows.

I have always thought development, which has to include extensive infrastructure, would be very expensive and commercial only if oil and gas prices rose very significantly. The oil and gas industry, always looking for the next elephants, believes that the resources are so substantial that the unit costs will be low enough to make development viable. Again no one is sure but the industry seems ready to place the bet.

Billions are being invested despite the expensive failure of Shell’s Kulluk rig. Development in the American sector may be constrained by environmental opposition and tight regulation but it will go ahead elsewhere. In Russia a new company Novatek has already been created and could come to rival Gazprom and Rosneft in scale if Russia’s own resources estimates are correct.

Development of the Arctic raises substantive strategic issues. Russia has reopened its military base on the Novosibirsk Islands and the US is starting to respond. An important speech by the US defence secretary Chuck Hagel at the end of November acknowledged the impact of climate change and asserted America’s determination to ensure freedom of transit through the waters of the Arctic Ocean. As Mr Hagel put it “we will not allow anybody to even think about messing with us”.

The question is whether the interlinked issues of security, development, trade routes and environmental protection can be managed. Oil and gas poses the biggest risks as well as offering the greatest opportunities and given the weakness of the international bodies involved such as the Arctic Council it is time for the industry to take a lead.

The greatest service the industry could perform would be to establish a set of standards for Arctic development. These would cover drilling, production, infrastructure and perhaps most important of all the response to spills of any sort. Like it or not history shows that oil and gas has never been developed anywhere without spills and the impact of spills in the Arctic could be devastating both for the environment and for reputation of those responsible.

Alongside the development of a set of standards would go the development of skills including an understanding of the impact of development on the ecology of the Arctic and the indigenous population. There are numerous excellent research centres – not least in Norway and the UK – and a strong case for the development of an international institute of Arctic science bringing together all those with expertise.

Concerted pressure around constructive proposals could help push the Arctic Council into being something more than a talking shop. The role of countries so far relegated to the role of observer status – including countries with a long history of high quality environmental work including Germany, Singapore and the UK – should be enhanced. Agreed high standards, once accepted as the minimum requirement, create a barrier to entry against cowboy drillers. The risks would not be eliminated but they could be reduced.

None of this will satisfy those who want to see all development halted. The cold reality, however, is that development is happening. As with climate change, denial of what is actually happening is not a serious option.

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Hansen on Climate Sensitivity and Models
"Climate sensitivity will never be defined accurately by models."

-- James Hansen, Storms of My Grandchildren, pg 44

(He prefers paleoclimate studies instead.)

Source: Quark Soup
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From Quark Soup

NOAA Posts Another Large Jump in Ocean Heating



New data for ocean heat content for the third quarter was just posted by NOAA. It shows another large increase for the 0-700 meter layer.

Compared to a year ago, 0-700 m OHC was up 0.90 x 1022 Joules, which works out to 285 terawatts, or 0.56 W/m2 over the Earth's entire surface.

(Using the Earth's entire surface area, instead of the area of the oceans, is probably a better calculation, since 90+% of the extra heat goes into the oceans.)

Comparing, the 0-700 m heating in the last year is twice the 15-year trend of 0.45 x 1022 J/yr, and 3.4 times the trend since 1955. An acceleration of warming?

The figure for the 0-2000 m region hasn't been posted yet.
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According to the National Health Service, the majority of those "excess winter deaths" were caused by heart disease, stroke, and respiratory illness, illness exacerbated by a more virulent strain of influenza. But the primary culprit--that is, the main reason so many elderly were left at the mercy of the cool late winter--is because gas and electricity suppliers have set profit margins so high that many of the destitute elderly can't afford proper heat in their homes. But given that the fossil fuel industry cares not a bit about severely disrupting the lives of hundreds of millions over the next few decades, why would a few hundred dead elderly Welsh folks bother them? After all, we mustn't stand in the way of profit...

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Quoting 87. MisterPerfect:
COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED!!

Yes, three years ago it was very cold in Antarctica. I guess that means Obama isn't President anymore...or something? Little help?
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Quoting 83. yoboi:


So you are saying the sun does not rise in the east and set in the west?????

No, the sun does not rise at all. The Earth is turning and gives that appearance, of course. Thanks for pointing out the dangers of taking things at face value, though.
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Quoting 109. cyclonebuster:



It's called peak oil as energy prices go up and up the poor shall freeze while the rich shall bask next to furnaces fired by their expensive fuel oil......


"Rising energy prices are likely to mean more people are put in this position again this winter and this, combined with very cold weather, could be very dangerous for many older people."

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http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/06/26/quit-gripi ng-about-gas-prices----its-all-in-your-/
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Frpm Dr. Rabbet:

The American Chemical Society on Climate Change

Nonono, not the policy statement, well there is that, but a bunch of resources that ACS has put out there a climate science tool kit for folks to learn from and use, put together by a top notch working group with support from ACS leadership. As part of the effort ACS held a meeting to brief staff about how to approach climate communication
When a conversation turns to climate change, do you know the basic science to take part? Do you understand the far-reaching impacts of climate change and how it's affecting you today? Learn the answers to these questions and more.




There are three professionally illustrated PowerPoint presentations which can be used in toto or from which slides can be select: One for the public, one for educators and one for industry professionals (Powerpoint downloads). And yes, a plug for Skeptical Science
This site is very helpful for a non-climate scientist who wants to stay current with the literature on global warming and climate change. As the description says, many of the posts take to task the published arguments of global warming skeptics and these rebuttals help to sharpen one’s climate science reasoning and logic. Sometimes the comments elicited by these posts also demonstrate the futility of getting into a “tis-taint” argument, if you are trying to engage someone or a group in a climate science conversation.


Read more at Rabbet Run ...

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Quoting 100. yoboi:
20th century data supports Svensmark's cosmic ray theory of climate

A post today from the website for the book The Neglected Sun: How the Sun Precludes Climate Catastrophe by German scientists Fritz Vahrenholt and Sebastian Luning shows long term data of cosmic ray proxies for the past 200 years strongly support the Svensmark cosmic ray theory of climate.


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Nice try, yoboi, but Svensmark is well known for his distortions and data manipulation in his work, and has been proven wrong countless times about the modern GCR-climate change link. The latest paper to refute this was published just last month:

Sloan, T. and A.W. Wolfendale, "Cosmic rays, solar activity and the climate", Environmental Research Letters, 7 November 2013, Vol. 8, Issue 4, doi:10.1088/1748-9326/8/4/045022

Abstract:

Although it is generally believed that the increase in the mean global surface temperature since industrialization is caused by the increase in green house gases in the atmosphere, some people cite solar activity, either directly or through its effect on cosmic rays, as an underestimated contributor to such global warming. In this letter a simplified version of the standard picture of the role of greenhouse gases in causing the global warming since industrialization is described. The conditions necessary for this picture to be wholly or partially wrong are then introduced. Evidence is presented from which the contributions of either cosmic rays or solar activity to this warming is deduced. The contribution is shown to be less than 10% of the warming seen in the twentieth century.

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There are Multiple Benefits To China’s Record-Breaking Smog, Claims Chinese State Broadcaster

In an opinion piece published Monday, a CCTV journalist argues that there are five benefits of China’s smog problem: it has made Chinese people more united, equal, clear-headed, humorous and knowledgeable. United because, as Forbes reports, all people in China are now united around this common problem (which affected 40 cities last week); equal because it affects both the rich and poor; clear-headed because China is now waking up to the dangers of pollution; humorous because the smog brings out so much sarcasm among China’s residents; and knowledgeable because it’s allowed the Chinese to understand pollution in a profound way.

“Our knowledge of meteorology, geography, physics, chemistry and history has grown [because of pollution] and the standard of our English has improved too,” the CCTV author writes. “Without this haze, would you know what PM2.5 was? Would you know that 60 years ago the haze claimed 12,000 lives in London? Would you even know the words “haze” and “smog”?”




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4 Reasons The Supreme Court Might Want To Uphold The EPA’s Cross-State Air Pollution Rule

When a power plant burns coal, it produces pollution: Sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury, particulate matter, carbon dioxide. As the plants emit into the air, more often than not the wind blows, and the mixture of harmful emissions travels across state lines.

Those states that create large amounts of pollution are called “upwind” states, and they are responsible for higher ozone levels, increased healthcare costs, and decreased air quality in their neighboring “downwind” states.

The issue of how to regulate it has long perplexed the EPA and the courts. Cross-state transport rules implemented in 1977 and tightened in 1990 were never able to effectively combat the complex problem. For example, it’s not just upwind states that bring pollution to downwind states. Some upwind states receive emissions from other upwind states which contribute to their own pollution problems. The EPA has thus deemed the cross-state pollution problem as a “dense, spaghetti-like matrix” of overlapping soot.

But in 2011, the EPA finalized its Cross-State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR), which promised to “slash hundreds of thousands of tons of smokestack emissions that travel long distances through the air leading to soot and smog, threatening the health of hundreds of millions of Americans living downwind.” CSAPR, according to the EPA, would achieve up to $280 billion in annual health benefits by preventing up to 34,000 premature deaths, 15,000 nonfatal heart attacks, 19,000 cases of acute bronchitis, 400,000 cases of aggravated asthma, and 1.8 million sick days a year beginning in 2014.

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Quoting 108. yoboi:
Number of winter deaths in Wales increases by 50 percent




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It's called peak oil as energy prices go up and up the poor shall freeze while the rich shall bask next to furnaces fired by their expensive fuel oil......


"Rising energy prices are likely to mean more people are put in this position again this winter and this, combined with very cold weather, could be very dangerous for many older people."
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108. yoboi
Number of winter deaths in Wales increases by 50 percent




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106. yoboi
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who dat is that like Wilson fil'e or Wilson file' ?????

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Quoting 100. yoboi:
20th century data supports Svensmark's cosmic ray theory of climate



A post today from the website for the book The Neglected Sun: How the Sun Precludes Climate Catastrophe by German scientists Fritz Vahrenholt and Sebastian Luning shows long term data of cosmic ray proxies for the past 200 years strongly support the Svensmark cosmic ray theory of climate.


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A gamma ray burst hitting us can do it.... Other than that a correct analogy would be a Mack Truck traveling down the interstate at 75 MPH and a gnat hits the windshield hoping to slow the truck down....
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Quoting 98. yoboi:


arctic is up north......does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?????
Oh ho! Another strawman! We can really have a warm fire tonight.
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Quoting 96. yoboi:




You neap and few others make statements different than this when discussing artic ice.....but I guess when you are discussing artic ice that is not for agriculture commerce and a variety of other purposes....got it.....
I'll just quote a frequent commenter on this blog:

False, false, false ..............
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Quoting 95. MisterPerfect:


LOL..Alaska is quite far from Antarctica.


Distance don't mean nothing right? It's global cooling right? LOL...
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100. yoboi
20th century data supports Svensmark's cosmic ray theory of climate



A post today from the website for the book The Neglected Sun: How the Sun Precludes Climate Catastrophe by German scientists Fritz Vahrenholt and Sebastian Luning shows long term data of cosmic ray proxies for the past 200 years strongly support the Svensmark cosmic ray theory of climate.


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Triple threat: Obama orders federal agencies to boost clean energy use threefold

Two bills in the Senate would require the country to get at least 25 percent renewable electricity by 2025, but neither has a chance in hell of making it to Obama’s desk. So the president is doing what he can without approval from Congress: requiring the federal government to get more of its power from renewable sources.

From NPR:

President Obama says the U.S. government “must lead by example” when it comes to safeguarding the environment, so he’s ordering federal agencies to use more clean energy.

Under a presidential memorandum out Thursday, each agency would have until 2020 to get 20 percent of its electricity from renewable supplies. …

Agencies are supposed to build their own facilities when they can, or buy clean energy from wind farms and solar facilities. …

The memo also directs federal agencies to increase energy efficiency in its buildings and its power management systems.

The U.S. government currently gets about 7.5 percent of its electricity from renewables, so the new goal would almost triple that percentage.

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Quoting 97. RevElvis:
96

What's an "artic"?


arctic is up north......does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?????
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96

What's an "artic"?
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Quoting 88. JohnLonergan:


For your edification:
Accordiding to NCIDC/NOAA:



Meteorologists and climatologists break the seasons down into groupings of three months based on the annual temperature cycle as well as our calendar. We generally think of winter as the coldest time of the year and summer as the warmest time of the year, with spring and fall being the transition seasons, and that is what the meteorological seasons are based on. Meteorological spring includes March, April, and May; meteorological summer includes June, July, and August; meteorological fall includes September, October, and November; and meteorological winter includes December, January, and February. These seasons were created for meteorological observing and forecasting purposes, and they are more closely tied to our monthly civil calendar than the astronomical seasons are. The length of the seasons is also more consistent for the meteorological seasons, ranging from 90 days for winter of a non-leap year to 92 days for spring and summer. By following the civil calendar and having less variation in season length and season start, it becomes much easier to calculate seasonal statistics from the monthly statistics, both of which are very useful for agriculture, commerce, and a variety of other purposes.


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You neap and few others make statements different than this when discussing artic ice.....but I guess when you are discussing artic ice that is not for agriculture commerce and a variety of other purposes....got it.....
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Quoting 91. cyclonebuster:


WOW!!!! There should be lots of ice here then....









And record low temps near Alaska....... Oh wait I guess that would mean global cooling then.....

















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LOL..Alaska is quite far from Antarctica.
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you ever read the "about us" sections of the .org websites? I swear its an endless trail of 501c corps donating to each other.

For instance, I found a list of Grist.org's funders:

11th Hour Project
Alki Fund of the Tides Foundation
Belvue Fund of the Tides Foundation
Brainerd Foundation
Campion Foundation
The CDQ Charitable Trust
Columbia Foundation
Compton Foundation
CREDO
The David and Lucile Packard Foundation
Educational Foundation of America
The Ford Foundation
The Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation
Germeshausen Foundation
Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation
The Grantham Foundation for the Protection of the Environment
Johnson Family Foundation
The Kendeda Fund
McKnight Foundation
Mize Family Foundation
The Ocean Foundation
Orange County Community Foundation
The Overbrook Foundation
Park Foundation
Patagonia
Rita Allen Foundation
Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Rockefeller Family Fund
The Russell Family Foundation
The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy
Shambhala Mountain Center
Sidney E. Frank Foundation
Surdna Foundation
TAUPO Fund
The Tiffany & Co. Foundation
V. Kann Rasmussen Foundation
WestWind Foundation
Wilburforce Foundation
The Winslow Foundation

If you wiki any of these foundations it always points back to some 501c progressive institution.

But not all of them of course. The Schumann Center, for example, got its original assets from the inheritances of the kin from such corporations as IBM and General Motors.

What about the Rockefeller Funds? Ironically these generous donations are rooted in the world's greatest exploiter of natural resources in history, Standard Oil.

Being Green is definitely a racket.
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Some people don't like being confused by the facts!

"Don't you hate it when that happens?" - Beetlejuice
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Quoting 87. MisterPerfect:

COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED!!

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Quoting 87. MisterPerfect:
COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED!!

Cold dis-comfort: Antarctica set record of -135.8

WASHINGTON (AP) %u2014 Feeling chilly? Here's cold comfort: You could be in East Antarctica which new data says set a record for "soul-crushing" cold.

Try 135.8 degrees Fahrenheit below zero; that's 93.2 degrees below zero Celsius, which sounds only slightly toastier. Better yet, don't try it. That's so cold scientists say it hurts to breathe.

A new look at NASA satellite data revealed that Earth set a new record for coldest temperature recorded. It happened in August 2010 when it hit -135.8 degrees. Then on July 31 of this year, it came close again: -135.3 degrees.

The old record had been -128.6 degrees, which is -89.2 degrees Celsius.

Ice scientist Ted Scambos at the National Snow and Ice Data Center said the new record is "50 degrees colder than anything that has ever been seen in Alaska or Siberia or certainly North Dakota."

"It's more like you'd see on Mars on a nice summer day in the poles," Scambos said, from the American Geophysical Union scientific meeting in San Francisco Monday, where he announced the data. "I'm confident that these pockets are the coldest places on Earth."

However, it won't be in the Guinness Book of World Records because these were satellite measured, not from thermometers, Scambos said.

"Thank God, I don't know how exactly it feels," Scambos said. But he said scientists do routinely make naked 100 degree below zero dashes outside in the South Pole, so people can survive that temperature for about three minutes.

Most of the time researchers need to breathe through a snorkel that brings air into the coat through a sleeve and warms it up "so you don't inhale by accident" the cold air, Scambos said.

On Monday, the coldest U.S. temperature was a relatively balmy 27 degrees below zero Fahrenheit in Yellowstone, Wyo., said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private firm Weather Underground.

"If you want soul-crushing cold, you really have to go overseas," Scambos said in a phone interview. "It's just a whole other level of cold because on that cold plateau, conditions are perfect."

Scambos said the air is dry, the ground chilly, the skies cloudless and cold air swoops down off a dome and gets trapped in a chilly lower spot "hugging the surface and sliding around."

Just because one spot on Earth has set records for cold that has little to do with global warming because it is one spot in one place, said Waleed Abdalati, an ice scientist at the University of Colorado and NASA's former chief scientist. Both Abdalati, who wasn't part of the measurement team, and Scambos said this is likely an unusual random reading in a place that hasn't been measured much before and could have been colder or hotter in the past and we wouldn't know.

"It does speak to the range of conditions on this Earth, some of which we haven't been able to observe," Abdalati said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cold-dis-comfort-a ntarctica-set-record-1358


WOW!!!! There should be lots of ice here then....









And record low temps near Alaska....... Oh wait I guess that would mean global cooling then.....

















...
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Quoting 84. RevElvis:
Global warming impacts our mental health





It certainly seems to drive some people crazy.
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Remembering Nelson Mandela and his fight for climate justice

Nelson Mandela, who died yesterday, is best known for his fight against South African apartheid. But his long walk to freedom also included steps toward solving this mammoth problem called climate change. He envisioned a world where all people are able to live a fully dignified life, with clean air to breathe and clean water to drink — and where poor countries are not left with the repercussions of rich nation’s dirty ways.

Six years ago, Mandela founded The Elders, a cross-cultural group of leaders from across the globe, including former President Jimmy Carter and former United Nations Chief Kofi Annan, to forge human rights-based solutions to worldwide problems. One of the group’s top priorities is climate justice, which is not only about reducing greenhouse gas emisssions, but also about ensuring the protection of those people and regions most vulnerable to the worst of climate change’s impacts.

An appreciation for the beauty and subsistence of nature is not something that occurred to Mandela in just the final years of his life. During his 27 years in jail, he fought to have a garden installed on the roof of his prison, where he and his fellow inmates could grow vegetables for their meals. “To plant a seed, watch it grow, to tend it and then harvest it, offered a simple but enduring satisfaction,” he wrote in his autobiography. “The sense of being the custodian of this small patch of earth offered a small taste of freedom.”

Grist.org
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Quoting 59 :
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For your edification:
Accordiding to NCIDC/NOAA:



Meteorologists and climatologists break the seasons down into groupings of three months based on the annual temperature cycle as well as our calendar. We generally think of winter as the coldest time of the year and summer as the warmest time of the year, with spring and fall being the transition seasons, and that is what the meteorological seasons are based on. Meteorological spring includes March, April, and May; meteorological summer includes June, July, and August; meteorological fall includes September, October, and November; and meteorological winter includes December, January, and February. These seasons were created for meteorological observing and forecasting purposes, and they are more closely tied to our monthly civil calendar than the astronomical seasons are. The length of the seasons is also more consistent for the meteorological seasons, ranging from 90 days for winter of a non-leap year to 92 days for spring and summer. By following the civil calendar and having less variation in season length and season start, it becomes much easier to calculate seasonal statistics from the monthly statistics, both of which are very useful for agriculture, commerce, and a variety of other purposes.


Source

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COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED!!

Cold dis-comfort: Antarctica set record of -135.8

WASHINGTON (AP) — Feeling chilly? Here's cold comfort: You could be in East Antarctica which new data says set a record for "soul-crushing" cold.

Try 135.8 degrees Fahrenheit below zero; that's 93.2 degrees below zero Celsius, which sounds only slightly toastier. Better yet, don't try it. That's so cold scientists say it hurts to breathe.

A new look at NASA satellite data revealed that Earth set a new record for coldest temperature recorded. It happened in August 2010 when it hit -135.8 degrees. Then on July 31 of this year, it came close again: -135.3 degrees.

The old record had been -128.6 degrees, which is -89.2 degrees Celsius.

Ice scientist Ted Scambos at the National Snow and Ice Data Center said the new record is "50 degrees colder than anything that has ever been seen in Alaska or Siberia or certainly North Dakota."

"It's more like you'd see on Mars on a nice summer day in the poles," Scambos said, from the American Geophysical Union scientific meeting in San Francisco Monday, where he announced the data. "I'm confident that these pockets are the coldest places on Earth."

However, it won't be in the Guinness Book of World Records because these were satellite measured, not from thermometers, Scambos said.

"Thank God, I don't know how exactly it feels," Scambos said. But he said scientists do routinely make naked 100 degree below zero dashes outside in the South Pole, so people can survive that temperature for about three minutes.

Most of the time researchers need to breathe through a snorkel that brings air into the coat through a sleeve and warms it up "so you don't inhale by accident" the cold air, Scambos said.

On Monday, the coldest U.S. temperature was a relatively balmy 27 degrees below zero Fahrenheit in Yellowstone, Wyo., said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private firm Weather Underground.

"If you want soul-crushing cold, you really have to go overseas," Scambos said in a phone interview. "It's just a whole other level of cold because on that cold plateau, conditions are perfect."

Scambos said the air is dry, the ground chilly, the skies cloudless and cold air swoops down off a dome and gets trapped in a chilly lower spot "hugging the surface and sliding around."

Just because one spot on Earth has set records for cold that has little to do with global warming because it is one spot in one place, said Waleed Abdalati, an ice scientist at the University of Colorado and NASA's former chief scientist. Both Abdalati, who wasn't part of the measurement team, and Scambos said this is likely an unusual random reading in a place that hasn't been measured much before and could have been colder or hotter in the past and we wouldn't know.

"It does speak to the range of conditions on this Earth, some of which we haven't been able to observe," Abdalati said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cold-dis-comfort-a ntarctica-set-record-1358
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The world’s greenest oil company?

When Total, the French oil and petrochemicals conglomerate, announced a joint venture Thursday with California biofuels company Amyris to produce low-carbon jet fuel and diesel, it was just the latest move into renewable energy by the fossil-fuel giant.

During the height of the green-tech investing boom before the 2008 global economic crash, oil companies from BP to ExxonMobil poured hundreds of millions of dollars into solar and biofuels. That served as both a hedge against a low-carbon future, and, not coincidentally, as a way to generate some green goodwill. It’s not a new phenomenon. Oil company Atlantic Richfield, for instance, bought an early solar panel maker back in 1977.

But that enthusiasm has waned in recent years. Oil companies as well as venture capitalists pruned their green-tech portfolios amid the worldwide downturn and the belated realization that some renewable energy technologies were not ready for prime time, while others would require billions of dollars to commercialize. BP — which had rebranded itself as “Beyond Petroleum” — shuttered its solar operations in 2011. ExxonMobil earlier this year said it’s reevaluating its investment in algae biofuels after putting $100 million into a company called Synthetic Genomics.

Total, however, has accelerated its investment in renewable energy. As BP was shutting down its solar business in 2011, Total bought 60 percent of SunPower, the Silicon Valley photovoltaic panel manufacturer and power plant developer, for $1.4 billion. “We see [solar] as a huge potential in the very long-term future,” Total executive Philippe Boisseau told me when the deal was announced. “As we look 20 years down the road, it can represent a significant part of the electricity mix and therefore the energy mix.”

Grist.org
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Quoting 77. TheDevilsAdvocate:
Astronomically speaking, that is. Meteorologically speaking, winter has been with us for more than a few days now.



And according to the Celtic Calendar, winter started on Nov 6. Winter "Solstice" is also known as "Midwinter Day". It would be odd for the beginning and middle to happen at the same time.
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Global warming impacts our mental health

The impacts of climate change aren't limited to changes in the environment. Researchers are beginning to learn how climate change may affect our mental health.

A 2009 report from the American Psychological Association predicts that the "effects of climate change are likely to be profound":

"Heat, extreme weather events, and increased competition for scarce environmental resources—compounded by preexisting inequalities and disproportionate impacts among groups and nations—will affect interpersonal and intergroup behavior and may result in increased stress and anxiety. Even in the absence of direct impacts, the perception and fear of climate change may threaten mental health."


A report from the National Wildlife Federation estimated that 200 million Americans will be subject to stress due to climate change.

Ashlee Cunsolo Willox of Cape Breton University is studying Inuit communities in northern Canada to better understand how climate change impacts mental health. The Tyee reports that the town of Rigolet has been particularly affected by warming winters and thinning ice, which makes driving a snowmobile difficult and even dangerous:

'Unable to hunt, fish, trap and forage, Rigolet's residents spent months indoors. They felt bored. Many became restless and depressed. "When I don't get out on the land," one resident explained to the researchers, "I'm like a caged in animal. I really can't relax properly." Cunsolo Willox's team had come to Rigolet to study how warmer weather affected the community's overall health. Researchers soon realized the biggest impacts were occurring inside people's heads. "I can't imagine how life would be if I couldn't travel in the winter," [resident Melva] Williams lamented.'

TreeHugger.com

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Quoting 78. Birthmark:

Apparently, the denialist train of thought is that similar things happen precisely the same way every single time. Using their reasoning, one could move to a town that has never had a murder, kill someone, and be acquitted since all previous deaths in that town were natural or accidental, therefore, murder is clearly impossible.



So you are saying the sun does not rise in the east and set in the west?????
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East Coast Governors Call Out Rust Belt For Pollution

Eight Democratic governors representing states on the East Coast intend to petition the Environmental Protection Agency on Monday in an effort to curb pollution in states located in the Midwest and Rust Belt, the New York Times reported.

The governors are aiming to crack down on pollution in regions of the country dominated by coal plants and factories and where environmental regulations tend to be lax.

Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy (D), who is leading the effort, said that the pollution from those states invariably affects people in other states.

"I care about this because it's put Connecticut at an economic disadvantage," Malloy told the Times. "We're paying a lot of money to remove these compounds from the air. That money is reflected in higher energy costs. We're more than willing to pay that, but the states we're petitioning should have to follow the same rules."

"They're getting away with murder," Malloy added. "Only it's in our state, not theirs."
The Supreme Court this week will hear arguments on the Obama administration's regulations to cut greenhouse gas emissions, including the so-called "good neighbor" rule requiring states to reduce coal pollution that drifts into other states.


TalkingPointsMemo.com

**added Six good reasons to watch the Supreme Court's interstate air pollution case (Grist.org)

"Only after the last tree has been cut down.
Only after the last river has been poisoned.
Only after the last fish has been caught.
Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten."

- Cree Indian Prophecy
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