I don't understand people.

By: KoritheMan , 8:15 AM GMT on June 17, 2014

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I was talking to a guy on Facebook about... stuff (I don't even remember now, lol). Eventually we get on the subject of personal boundaries. I haven't thought about it in awhile because I honestly don't care anymore. Why should I?

However, when that particular modal of discussion exhibits a resurgence, I end up invariably thinking about it anyway.

It's as my brother said earlier... it's not that I don't understand people... it's that I don't understand their reasons for doing what they do. I am very hard-pressed to respect an opinion if I deem it as illogical or irrational. Emotions get in the way with certain things. That's objectively true. And I feel that for the most part... boundaries are based solely on emotion, without even a modicum of rationality or logic.

I've discussed this with Trent before, but not everyone here. At this point I just pretend to understand people. I know a couple people here that aren't comfortable discussing certain topics, so I avoid discussing them. I think even socially awkward people (aka me) would agree with that. But every time I respect those boundaries, I find myself having to pretend. I don't like the idea of feigning understanding of a person's delineated barriers, but I can't help it. My background turned me into this overly logical machine.

In the end, if feigning produces the same results as authentic understanding (i.e. it maintains the friendship), does it really matter? I'd say not.

What are you guys' thoughts?

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15. KoritheMan
11:21 AM GMT on June 30, 2014
Also, I was talking with my brother about this earlier. I'm divulging the finer details of his personal life on here because he's one of the few completely open book people I know. Kinda like myself (not bragging, just saying).

Anyway, I pointed out to him how he told me several months ago that he's no longer a Christian. Our family is staunchly Christian... like the BAD kind of Christian. The fire and brimstone, shelter everyone from everything type (and yes that could certainly explain a lot on my relatively emotionless thought processes :P) of Christian. He said he thinks they would assail him if they knew. I know this family enough to realize that they would at the very least keep preaching to him until it "sinks in", never mind that they failed horribly trying the same thing with me.

I think that shows, whether I'd prefer to admit it or not, that I understand human emotion a little. Maybe.
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14. KoritheMan
11:18 AM GMT on June 30, 2014
Quoting 12. Astrometeor:



Lol. OF COURSE emotions get in the way. That's their job (in a sense). They're also there to make certain things run smoothly, and to just generally spice life up a bit.


What do you mean that's their job? Elaborate.
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13. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
8:21 AM GMT on June 29, 2014
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12. Astrometeor
12:39 AM GMT on June 29, 2014
Quoting 8. KoritheMan:



I just feel like emotions get in the way a bit. People would be happier if they stopped pointlessly analyzing stuff, wouldn't they? Or am I just being naive? I probably am.


Lol. OF COURSE emotions get in the way. That's their job (in a sense). They're also there to make certain things run smoothly, and to just generally spice life up a bit.
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11. ronnm
6:13 PM GMT on June 28, 2014
To my experience and observation humans are never singularly logical. Thinking one part may be as exclusion to another part of our makeup is illogical. We are a composite and function as such. So there is no possibility of a logical or emotional singularity we are shaded in both.

What for instance is the thing which impels us to know and then share?. Is it not what we call in other animals the herd instinct. Is this "instinct" independent from us and logically considered as the basis of our existence, or is it that we suffer from its mandate and consider it in nobel terms to account for it, to explain it. So we must do this thing. A thing known we must share, always inevitably in perhaps covert forms but when we know a thing to be true we add it to the group.

So is this logical or based on emotion this necessity we always endeavor?
Seems emotionally based to me. Regardless of value to the group audience or target anticipated logically we can reasonably assume most of what we know, we must share with others in one form or other. This forms the basis for friendships and many other things to include blogging on sites sports watching sports and many other things to include our professions. Our lives are those of herds, herd animals. We reinforce our views in our lives, what we know elaborated. To think otherwise that we may singularly solely be considering things in a logical sense while others do not is only a great egotism.

Show me a hermit who never tells anyone what they knows who does not participate in any manner with the herd and I may say we have found one who is logically considering things. Otherwise it appears only a elaboration a nuance to herd thinking that one envisions oneself as singular separate and special, it is only that which is displaying.

Emotion it is that impels this thing of communication, the herd emotion I could call it. To say one is immune from this thing when one is swimming in composite in this thing at all times and can only see a very minor aspect of oneself which is not for a brief time in this thing, and then claim on such basis, I am logical and others are not; a great egotism and nothing more it is.

Out whole basis as human is only in relationship to other humans. We value all we may do think or create in this form as one gear to another in a machine. Without this we are not is the logical conclusion of that way .

But it is certainly not so. So the very basis of all human is emotion not logic, with very few exceptions, Certainly all on blog sites display this, as the need to communicate in this fashion speaks of the emotion of herd quite explicitly.

Herd, which is what we are quite unequivocally is not a logical thing for a individual. Since that is the basis of all our actions thoughts and dreams,(us in relationship to others) our lives are always emotionally based.
Crude emotional display such as anger fear etc. those only we call emotions. Never is called this thing of herd emotion, as that would make us human less in our eyes. Humans call themselves great great things. In consideration of our past we say we were great hunters, killing this and that with our cunning. Truth is humans, we demonize always what we compete with. This presents in lore in various forms. Humans, our greatest enemy in lore is not the wolf bear or other, but the snake. The snake who hunts in the main, rodents.
This is noble human who has populated so greatly, historically a hunter of rodents, as our lore attests.

So human is not so great a thing, and is always a thing of emotion. The emotion of herd which dictates most of its irrational actions, it is that which thinks a thing that can divide one part as logic and another as emotion. So we continue to elaborate on our ideas of human greatness in this manner. Mostly our gods they are made to look like us and not another, so great is our necessity for greatness.
We call it instinct in another animal a unthought thing. It is the same in us and this instinct it is emotion. though more subtle than the overt kinds.

We stumble upon logic like blind pigs in the forest stumble upon acorns once in a while. It does not mean the pig is not blind to find that thing. Nor does it mean that we occasionally employing logic may be thought to be a logical thing. The pig finds the acorn despite its blindness. We humans as that pig say, we do this thing as sighted pigs do; so we are not blind. But it is as much by accident we find that thing of logic or acorn, it says not a thing about our sight .

Nor does our occasionally employ of logic and contrast to other in any specific context say in any manner, human is thing of logic formed. We are that blind pig finding occasionally that acorn, continuing to live but barely so, saying they are sighted as they find acorns as sighted pigs do. Comical that.

Emotion from top to bottom side to side with a occasional logical thing attached that arises from this virtual sea of emotion, only that is logic to human.
WE are destroying the world, fouling our nest as there are simply to many of us, killing all the other things. Things only held in value in their relationship to us human.. Herd can never allow less herd, as herd it is that wants only one thing, to grow the herd. So we provide for our own illogical manner of things and do in the end provide for our probable demise. Individuals will continue the larger thing we serve so well it will not. The herd it is that will end the herd, by its size it will provide for, dictate, its demise. Herd must grow it is as herds are, that is what a herd does. But that perhaps is another subject for another time.
Logic, not a bit of logic to it. Herd it is all herd for human. All emotion.

Call yourself other, human, please continue. Call yourself great hunter of saber toothed tigers and more, conqueror of nations, of worlds, potentially of galaxies. No human, you are not these, as these are incidental to what you are.

A eater of rodents bugs and such things is what you are. A thing that desires most of all things to be thought great, as it is only this thought which is the heart of herd, that which enables herd, and which you serve so diligently. It is simply not so, that you are great. All is emotionally based and all is largely egotism in human.
Conducting your self accordingly as a minor part of a larger thing, and your species it may survive. As is blindly following the imperative of greatness/herd which in your mind exempts you from all law to include the laws found in nature you will end. The envisioning of a thing being not that thing.
Quite sadly. Consider yourself logical and emotional parts separated, leads to your consideration of greatness. This is how this thought may be arrived at. It is not so as you are always both.
With the devolving of the thought of greatness, consequent to the logical and emotional aspect consideration as separate things in human, then we may see what we are, blind pigs only., And act as bling pigs may best act, knowing then our limitations.

Continuing to search as bling pigs must do, using this thing of logic to our aid. But knowing in our heart of hearts we are indeed blind and what we have found speaks not a bit of our capacity, but more so to our diligence.
Then thoughts of greatness, thoughts of singular aspects of our nature, fighting with each other, displaying as wars and things of strife, long forgotten. Other things of delusional nature put aside; then we may act as best we may for who we are and those who will replace us.

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10. KoritheMan
10:11 AM GMT on June 28, 2014
Quoting 2. Sooon:

Hi, Kori,
First, I want to point out that English is not my mother language, so I will try to express my ideas the best I can.Being essentially a long time lurker in WU blog, I found I could put  some of my thoughts here.I think you have mentioned some keywords here that are friendship, boundaries and respect.If it is a true friendship, we have to accept each other's boundaries and respect them. It does not mean we always understand those boundaries but we sure do have to "agree to disagree" in order to assure personal freedom and be aware that friends are certainly not  there to always agree with us - I believe it is very useful to have other people who makes us try to view things differently and sometimes standing in their shoes. Of course, all this depends on the friendship's bases, like true knowledge of personal history and a good balance for the emotional side (meaning allowing to get "too emotional" but always coming back to a common levelled point, in the end).It's often not very easy to separate our "logics" from emotions / personal feelings towards the relationship, but I think that, overall, we must remain flexible and open-minded with friends, not having to feign anything to get acceptance from them (or that would sound like fake friendship).Roger
Edit - For some mysterious reason, my browser is not formatting the post the right way, sorry for the compact view.


That actually bothers me more than I've let on, tbh. The friendships I've forged DO feel fake in a sense because of that.

I'm being daft, but since ignoring what I see as trivial limits comes so easy to me. Why doesn't it for everyone else?

That in itself is irrational, as Nathan (Astro) said. Trying to learn that.
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9. KoritheMan
10:09 AM GMT on June 28, 2014
Quoting 4. CarlitosAtun:

I think you probably shouldn't post invitations to view incoherent strings of words in the comments section of a tropical weather blog.


I know most people only go here to discuss weather and their flower garden, but I prefer far more esoteric things. People bore me. I try to liven things up a bit, but I don't do it for attention.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that my words might have been a little incoherent though, haha.
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8. KoritheMan
10:08 AM GMT on June 28, 2014
Quoting 6. Astrometeor:

To add:

Those who are able to deftly incorporate emotion and handle emotion in their daily lives are the truly logical and rational humans on this world.

To shun emotion is not very rational at all. And, it's a losing battle to do so.


I just feel like emotions get in the way a bit. People would be happier if they stopped pointlessly analyzing stuff, wouldn't they? Or am I just being naive? I probably am.
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7. KoritheMan
10:07 AM GMT on June 28, 2014
Okay, first off, if anyone wondered, my long hiatus had nothing to do with me posting this blog. I ended up getting sick afterward, and I only recent got to feeling better.
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6. Astrometeor
4:00 AM GMT on June 22, 2014
To add:

Those who are able to deftly incorporate emotion and handle emotion in their daily lives are the truly logical and rational humans on this world.

To shun emotion is not very rational at all. And, it's a losing battle to do so.
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5. Astrometeor
12:51 AM GMT on June 22, 2014
It is irrational of you to give emotion the bad rap you have imposed upon it within your mind.

Emotion is a key part of humans, in fact we are more often associated with emotion than with logic. If you deny emotion the role it plays in your life, then you doing yourself a grand disservice.
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4. CarlitosAtun
1:08 PM GMT on June 17, 2014
I think you probably shouldn't post invitations to view incoherent strings of words in the comments section of a tropical weather blog.
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3. Autistic2
11:34 AM GMT on June 17, 2014
I would agree with you. There are only 3 people I truly understand ad that is because they are family and have made an effort to help me understand. I have my own issues and usually just pretend to have some small degree of understanding. It works for me as I don't wish to be alone. Experience has taught me that I am outside most peoples ability to understand, therefore I usually don't let people outside my family very close. It kinda sucks
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2. Sooon
9:40 AM GMT on June 17, 2014
Hi, Kori,
First, I want to point out that English is not my mother language, so I will try to express my ideas the best I can.Being essentially a long time lurker in WU blog, I found I could put  some of my thoughts here.I think you have mentioned some keywords here that are friendship, boundaries and respect.If it is a true friendship, we have to accept each other's boundaries and respect them. It does not mean we always understand those boundaries but we sure do have to "agree to disagree" in order to assure personal freedom and be aware that friends are certainly not  there to always agree with us - I believe it is very useful to have other people who makes us try to view things differently and sometimes standing in their shoes. Of course, all this depends on the friendship's bases, like true knowledge of personal history and a good balance for the emotional side (meaning allowing to get "too emotional" but always coming back to a common levelled point, in the end).It's often not very easy to separate our "logics" from emotions / personal feelings towards the relationship, but I think that, overall, we must remain flexible and open-minded with friends, not having to feign anything to get acceptance from them (or that would sound like fake friendship).Roger
Edit - For some mysterious reason, my browser is not formatting the post the right way, sorry for the compact view.
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1. Ylee
9:36 AM GMT on June 17, 2014
As someone who has literally worked with and interacted with thousands of people over the years, I've learned how to empathize with what people are saying without investing intellectually or emotionally in what they are saying. (I don't do that with my fellow bloggers here, BTW.) People feel better about themselves, and I don't get a headache!

Have you seen Ping Pong: The Animation? Awesome show; Smile kinda reminds me of you, actually! :' )
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I'm just a 23 year old with an ardent passion for weather. I first became aware of this interest after Tropical Storm Isidore struck my area in 2002.