Flood waters recede in Cedar Rapids

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:58 PM GMT on June 16, 2008

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The rampaging Cedar River is falling today, after cresting at an amazing 31.1 feet Friday in the town of Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The National Weather Service said the flow on the Cedar River through Cedar Rapids peaked at 149,500 cubic feet per second Friday, more than double the previous record of 73,000 in 1961. During the historic 1993 flood, the river hit only 19.27 feet, and the record flood of 1929 hit only 20.5 feet. The 2008 flood has hit levels expected only once every 500 years. The river was at 23 feet this morning, which is down 8 feet, but still 11 feet above flood stage, and 2.5 feet above the record high observed in 1929.


Figure 1. Total rainfall for the period May 16 - June 16, 2008. About 2/3 of the state has seen rainfall amounts in excess of 10 inches in the past month. Image credit: NOAA.

Eighth warmest May on record
May 2008 was the 8th warmest May for the the globe on record, according to statistics released by the National Climatic Data Center. The spring season--March, April, and May--ranked as the seventh warmest spring for the globe. La NiƱa continued to weaken in May, and near neutral conditions now prevail in the tropical Eastern Pacific.

For the contiguous U.S., May was the 34th coolest May since 1895, and spring season was the 36th coolest spring on record. For the spring, Missouri had its fourth wettest, Arkansas its sixth wettest, Indiana and Iowa their eighth wettest and Illinois its 10th wettest. California had its driest spring on record, while Nevada and Utah had their 10th and 11th driest on record.

Sea ice extent
May 2008 Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent was the tenth lowest on record for the month of May, 6% below its extent in 1979 when satellite measurements began, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. May was the sixth straight month that a new monthly minimum arctic sea ice record was not set, following a string of five months in a row where monthly records were set.

Tropics
It's quiet in the tropics. There are no threat areas to discuss, and none of the models are forecasting tropical storm formation in the next seven days.

Jeff Masters

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83. extreme236
5:58 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
BBL
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82. Floodman
12:57 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
76. sarasotaman

Read his comment all the way through...

jp,once we get the tropics heating up,I don't think GW talk will be allowed,tropical season is for tropics blogging.Someone starts a GW subject hopefully they will get banned,I'll certainly ignore them
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81. IKE
12:57 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
77. 0741 12:57 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
did wave die?? everyone takling about GW if wave keep going west it hit south anerica


It's still out there...it just felt neglected since Dr. Masters didn't mention it.
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80. NEwxguy
5:53 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
lol,thks 0741,perfect.
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78. HurakanPR
1:51 PM AST on June 16, 2008
Agree 67, that's why an answer to all this aint easy, but is up to us to try to find fair balance.
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77. 0741
5:55 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
did wave die?? everyone takling about GW if wave keep going west it hit south anerica
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76. sarasotaman
5:50 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
Why does NEwxguy wants to ban people for GW talk when he is talkin about non tropical stoms in New York?
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75. IKE
12:52 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
70. extreme236 12:51 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
59. IKE 5:40 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
56. MonkeeInDaTrunk 12:38 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
I'm as tired of the "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" crowd

what?? you mean the sky isn't falling??!!

Damn Fox news!!!

U mean FOX noise?

Wasn't it called Faux News?


Yeah....that's it!
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73. moonlightcowboy
5:54 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
72. Ain't it the truth!
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72. extreme236
5:52 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
66. The problem is that on this blog, if you have two sides to the GW discussion, there is always one side that has to slam the other side and start calling people names.
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71. sporteguy03
5:52 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
JP Time for lunch?
I had popcorn chicken so I would get a popcorn vareity T-Storm.
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70. extreme236
5:47 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
59. IKE 5:40 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
56. MonkeeInDaTrunk 12:38 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
I'm as tired of the "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" crowd

what?? you mean the sky isn't falling??!!

Damn Fox news!!!

U mean FOX noise?


Wasn't it called Faux News?
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68. 0741
5:46 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
65. jphurricane2006 5:44 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
lol thanks 0741

you able see video???? you say that to ne
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67. moonlightcowboy
5:45 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
66. I'd agree with that and advocate such scenario, but to pretend "politics" is not associated even with "science" is short-sighted. It very much exists, unfortunately.
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66. HurakanPR
1:31 PM AST on June 16, 2008
As long as both sides on the GW issue,don't mix it with the "little" everyday politics of the "left vs. the right" (or vicebersa); maybe eventually we can see some light at the end of the tunnel.
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64. Floodman
12:42 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
40. mightywhitemike

Try Pinatubo, '91-91; mean global temperature drop .5-.7 degrees, globally
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62. 0741
5:27 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
jp this link for you Link tell if like it everyone else enjoy it jp say this in one post i saw group came to miami back 1980s
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61. mightywhitemike
5:42 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
My comment was more GC than GW...but enough said.
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60. NEwxguy
5:38 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
jp,once we get the tropics heating up,I don't think GW talk will be allowed,tropical season is for tropics blogging.Someone starts a GW subject hopefully they will get banned,I'll certainly ignore them
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59. IKE
12:38 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
56. MonkeeInDaTrunk 12:38 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
I'm as tired of the "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" crowd

what?? you mean the sky isn't falling??!!

Damn Fox news!!!


U mean FOX noise?
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58. Ldog74
5:39 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
Don't worry, within a year the media will be on the opposite end of the spectrum, trying to get us ready to prepare for the upcoming ice age, selling us excessive amounts of home insulation, and telling us to buy summer homes in the Amazon rainforest. It happened in the 1970s, it will happen again.
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57. Floodman
12:38 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
52. jphurricane2006

Exactly...it's wearing my a$$ out!
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56. MonkeeInDaTrunk
10:37 AM PDT on June 16, 2008
I'm as tired of the "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" crowd

what?? you mean the sky isn't falling??!!

Damn Fox news!!!
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53. NEwxguy
5:33 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
Drak,its what we suffered through all winter,oh the pain!!!!!
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50. Floodman
12:28 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
42. moonlightcowboy

Again, simply with the conflicting data and hype over what amounts to be only incremental warming increases, it's rather bullish and foolish to perpetuate unsubstantiated truths. Of course, "modelers" will say that has already been taken into consideration and that the models themselves can preclude any real science.



BINGO!
I'm as tired of the "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" crowd as I am of the ultra-right wing pin-heads that say it can't be so, not because they have any data to back it up, but because it is the opposite of what their percievcd enemies say...the media isn't helping any either, providing incomplete reporting and inciting everyone to riot...
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49. Weather456
1:13 PM AST on June 16, 2008
Tropical Update
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48. rainraingoaway
11:30 AM CST on June 16, 2008
...and oh....

LOL monkey!
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46. rainraingoaway
11:27 AM CST on June 16, 2008
Afternoon all. Still only the wave out there I see. And way too much water in Iowa. Rainfall amounts across the whole state staggering for them.

Not a raincloud in the sky here. Nothing forecast for the week either. I sure hope that changes.

Will check back. HAGD all.
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45. moonlightcowboy
12:29 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
44. LMAO, Drak. Yep, that's it! Ugh! :)
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44. Drakoen
5:28 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
No activity= GW debates....
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42. moonlightcowboy
12:12 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
36. Floodman 12:08 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
I've built enough datawarehouse applications to now that any given dataset can prove any supposition, even conflicting suppositions, using the same dataset...

Where do we find a dataset for the full span of input, from the beginning of record-keeping to now?

The issue with climate change is well meaning folks on both sides of the debate making statements based on incomplete data...not that there is a "Complete" dataset of weather observations...how can it be complete when the collection of data wasn't codified until the middle part of the last century, and the collection tools get better and change all the time?

As for those that make generalized statements showing extreme views in both directions, I wish they'd shut up long enough for the rest of us to make some kind of decision one way or the other...




Precisely, FLOOD! Your entire post is testament to the problems and discernment of GW, especially anthropogenics. The data set is incomplete and I certainly don't trust much global data that is pre-satellite era which, it too, only has data from the past few decades. I doubt very seriously there is enough substantial and credible "global" data before that time from any land or sea based collection of data.

But futher, your last statement is an excellent point. Unfortunately, it has been the mission of the AGW alarmists to discount and trivialize any dissenting information and/or opinion.

Again, simply with the conflicting data and hype over what amounts to be only incremental warming increases, it's rather bullish and foolish to perpetuate unsubstantiated truths. Of course, "modelers" will say that has already been taken into consideration and that the models themselves can preclude any real science.
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41. NEwxguy
5:08 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
Flood,
I have tried to educate myself on the subject of our environment and climate change,read many articles from both sides,and the data that is collected is usually very carefully selected to prove their point from one side or the other,So I usually avoid any debates on the subject/
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40. mightywhitemike
5:12 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
Philip Kenyon Chapman (born March 5, 1935) was the first Australian-born American astronaut, serving for about five years in NASA Astronaut Group 6 (1967).

Geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory also show that there are currently no spots on the sun. He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.

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39. MonkeeInDaTrunk
10:13 AM PDT on June 16, 2008
30. NEwxguy 10:01 AM PDT on June 16, 2008
Some peoples stats are getting warmer some stats are getting cooler,some say the hurricanes are going to more violent,some say there will be less hurricanes


You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out...come on, everybody!
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38. moonlightcowboy
12:02 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
30. EXACTLY. It really just proves that the "science is not in" as the IPCC, Gore and the AGW alarmists would have us believe.
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37. Floodman
12:08 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
32. mightywhitemike

I wasn't asking about info on sunspot activity; I was asking for solid data on the suppostion that the temperature globally has fallen by .7 degrees celcius in 2007...sorry if I wasn't clear
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36. Floodman
12:02 PM CDT on June 16, 2008
30. NEwxguy

I've built enough datawarehouse applications to now that any given dataset can prove any supposition, even conflicting suppositions, using the same dataset...

Where do we find a dataset for the full span of input, from the beginning of record-keeping to now?

The issue with climate change is well meaning folks on both sides of the debate making statements based on incomplete data...not that there is a "Complete" dataset of weather observations...how can it be complete when the collection of data wasn't codified until the middle part of the last century, and the collection tools get better and change all the time?

As for those that make generalized statements showing extreme views in both directions, I wish they'd shut up long enough for the rest of us to make some kind of decision one way or the other...
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35. HurakanPR
1:05 PM AST on June 16, 2008
Weatherwannabee, so sorry for your friends. Yes is true, sometimes a strong slow moving tropical wave can be worst than a fast moving hurricane.
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34. HurakanPR
1:01 PM AST on June 16, 2008
Thanks, WeathefanPR,I know is his blog. But i was thinking in a more metheorological, scientic base answer.
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33. afcjags03
5:04 PM GMT on June 16, 2008
RE: #30

Yes it does make one wonder, I believe this is why though.

Link
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