Science Debate 2008

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:06 PM GMT on February 11, 2008

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The issues of global warming and climate change are important to many voters, yet the media has done a poor job asking the U.S. presidential candidates about these topics. In a study quoted by The Boston Globe, in 2007 the major TV networks asked presidential candidates 2,679 questions. Of those questions, only three were about global warming--the same number of questions that were asked about UFOs. With the presidential race narrowed down to four main candidates--Hillary Clinton, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, and Barack Obama--it's time that the candidates' views on climate change be given more attention. To address this need, the four major candidates have been invited to participate in Science Debate 2008, a verbal debate to be held on April 18, 2008, at Philadelphia's Franklin Institute. The debate is cosponsored by the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the Council on Competitiveness, the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. Nearly 100 leading American universities and other organizations have signed on to promote the effort, along with many prominent scientists, writers, and members of Congress. The debate is designed to discover the candidates' views on many science-related topics, such as climate change, clean energy, health care, science education and technology in schools, scientific integrity, GM agriculture, transportation infrastructure, the genome, data privacy, intellectual property, pandemic diseases, the health of the oceans, water resources, stem cells, conservation and species loss, population, and the space program.

We need your help to make this debate happen! Contact the campaigns of the candidates to ask them to participate in the debate, sign a petition to approve of the debate, or write a letter to the editor of your local paper. Chris Mooney, who authored the excellent 2007 book, Storm World: Hurricanes, Politics, and the Battle Over Global Warming, is one of the leaders of the initiative, and has posted links one can use to help with these tasks, in his blog, The Intersection. Thanks for helping out!

Jeff Masters

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433. NEwxguy
3:12 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Pat,thats an awful story,you see people all the time disrepecting the power of mother nature,and it usually ends tragically.
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432. NEwxguy
3:10 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
La Nina is giving us here in the Northeast some rough weather,we started with 3 inches of snow last night over to freezing raing and now heavy rain all day.

THE FLOOD WATCH CONTINUES FOR

* PORTIONS OF NORTHERN CONNECTICUT...MASSACHUSETTS...SOUTHERN
NEW HAMPSHIRE AND RHODE ISLAND...INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING
AREAS...IN NORTHERN CONNECTICUT...HARTFORD CT...TOLLAND CT AND
WINDHAM CT. IN MASSACHUSETTS...CENTRAL MIDDLESEX MA...EASTERN
ESSEX MA...EASTERN HAMPDEN MA...EASTERN NORFOLK MA...EASTERN
PLYMOUTH MA...NORTHERN BRISTOL MA...SOUTHEAST MIDDLESEX MA...
SOUTHERN BRISTOL MA...SOUTHERN PLYMOUTH MA...SOUTHERN
WORCESTER MA...SUFFOLK MA...WESTERN ESSEX MA...WESTERN HAMPDEN
MA...WESTERN NORFOLK MA AND WESTERN PLYMOUTH MA. IN SOUTHERN
NEW HAMPSHIRE...EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH NH. IN RHODE ISLAND...
BRISTOL RI...EASTERN KENT RI...NEWPORT RI...NORTHWEST
PROVIDENCE RI...SOUTHEAST PROVIDENCE RI...WASHINGTON RI AND
WESTERN KENT RI.

* THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING

* RAINFALL OF 1 TO 2.5 INCHES IS EXPECTED TO FALL TODAY FROM 7 AM
THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. RUNOFF FROM THIS RAINFALL...COMBINED WITH
SOME SNOW MELT WILL LEAD TO THE POTENTIAL OF SIGNIFICANT URBAN AND
POOR DRAINAGE FLOODING. AREAS OF SLUSH COVERED STORM DRAINS AND
UNDERPASSES ARE ALSO A CONCERN FOR FLOODING.

* SOME SMALLER RIVERS AND STREAMS MAY RISE OUT OF THEIR BANKS
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THIS INCLUDES BUT IS
NOT LIMITED TO THE PAWTUXET RIVER AT CRANSTON RI...THE
NEPONSET RIVER AT NORWOOD MA...ASSEBET RIVER AT MAYNARD MA AND
THE SUDBURY RIVER IN SAXONVILLE MA.

A FLOOD WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING BASED ON
CURRENT FORECASTS. ALTHOUGH RIVER FLOODING IS OF SOME CONCERN...
OUR PRIMARY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNFICANT
URBAN FLOODING.

YOU SHOULD MONITOR LATER FORECASTS AND BE ALERT FOR POSSIBLE
FLOOD WARNINGS. THOSE LIVING IN AREAS PRONE TO FLOODING SHOULD BE
PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLOODING DEVELOP.
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431. surfmom
3:10 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
StormW thanks for the update --did not go to work today at the Polo Club - may have been a bad call- expected rain all morning...figured it would be too wet to take the horses out for their fitness run. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do --probably will start pouring once I get there, Just really grateful for whatever rain we get. Read this morning, in a small hidden article, Lake Okeechobee is at it's lowest level EVER recorded.
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430. weathers4me
3:01 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
I recorded exactly one inch of rain yesterday here in Bradenton FL. (near the sky way bridge). It looks like we dodged a bullet with all the predictive models forecasting the potential for nasty weather.
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428. sporteguy03
2:58 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Dr.Masters,
Thank you for the update!
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427. Patrap
2:58 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Yeah, all the Nurses warned her not to go outside ,..and it was the last thing she did.So true and sad at the sad time. Never tempt Mother Nature ..
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426. TheCaneWhisperer
2:41 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Sad story Patrap, it's amazing the amount of ignorance in some people. Just recently moved out to Wellington, FL (Central Palm Beach). We had a couple warnings last night. Yeah it was 12am, it sucked, but not as bad as getting caught off guard.
425. Patrap
2:15 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Never wish for calamity...it just may deliver itself. Here yesterday a 51 yr old woman ignored advice from Hospital workers to stay indoors as a Tornado warning was in effect.She went to go to her car..the funnel came thru..picked her up..and slammed her against a car ..She perished.
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424. Patrap
2:15 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Never wish for calamity...it just may deliver itself. Here yesterday a 51 yr old woman ignored advice from Hospital workers to stay indoors as a Tornado warning was in effect.She went to go to her car..the funnel came thru..picked her up..and slammed her against a car ..She perished.
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423. AussieStorm
2:13 PM GMT on February 13, 2008

Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Western Australia

Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this
warning.

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued at 9:50 pm WDT on Wednesday, 13 February 2008
BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH

A Cyclone WARNING is current for coastal areas from Bidyadanga to Kuri Bay.
A Cyclone WATCH is current for coastal areas from Pardoo to Bidyadanga.

At 9:00 pm WDT Tropical Cyclone Nicholas, was estimated to be
355 kilometres north northwest of Broome and
670 kilometres north northeast of Port Hedland and
moving southeast at 7 kilometres per hour.

Nicholas has shown no signs of intensification during the day but in the longer
term it is still likely to intensify. Nicholas is likely to move slowly south
over the next 48 hours.

Gales are not expected in coastal areas overnight, however, it is possible gales
could develop in coastal areas between Kuri Bay and Bidyadanga later on Thursday
or Friday and may extend further south and west to Pardoo during Friday. Pilbara
residents are advised that although the Pilbara coast west of Pardoo is not
under threat in the next 48 hours, there is still a risk in that area over the
weekend.

Details of Tropical Cyclone Nicholas at 9:00 pm WDT:
Centre located near...... 14.9 degrees South 121.3 degrees East
Location accuracy........ within 55 kilometres
Recent movement.......... towards the southeast at 7 kilometres per hour
Wind gusts near centre... 100 kilometres per hour
Severity category........ 1
Central pressure......... 980 hectoPascals

FESA-State Emergency Service advises of the following community alerts:

BLUE ALERT: People in or near the communities between Kuri Bay and Bidyadanga,
including Cockatoo Island, Koolan Island, Derby, Cape Leveque, One Arm Point,
Djarindjin, Lombadina, Beagle Bay, Broome and Bidyadanga should commence taking
precautions.
Communities between Pardoo and Bidyadanga should listen for the next advice.
The next advice will be issued by 1:00 am WDT Thursday 14 February.
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422. TampaSpin
1:34 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
Looking at Satellite the worse if you call that might be coming to south florida.

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420. CybrTeddy
12:12 PM GMT on February 13, 2008
By the Way, theres a Tropical Cyclone out in the Indian Ocean with a name we might all remember....
Ivan.
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419. FLWeatherFreak91
10:19 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
The Weather escapes me...No matter who forecasts what, it can always turn out wrong. Every computer model, every meteorologist, and all weather junkies predicted that last night would be a severe weather outbreak in Florida- it sure wasn't here, and I don't even think s. fl's incident could be considered and outbreak. I ended up with .62 inches and that occurred at 5 pm yesterday...not 1/10 of an inch even fell last night. Who knows? Maybe the actual front will take everyone by surprise...I doubt it
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418. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
7:52 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Nicholas Category One [980 hPa] located near 14.4S 120.8E or 425 kms north-northwest of Broome and 700 kms north-northeast of Port Hedland has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts up to 55 knots. The cyclone is reported moving east-northeast at 4 knots

Dvorak Intensity: 2.5

Additional Information
------------------------
Nicholas has shown no signs of intensification during the day but in the longer term it is still likely to intensify. Nicholas is currently heading towards the
east northeast, however, it is forecast to take a more southerly movement.

Gales are not expected in coastal areas this afternoon or tonight, however, it is possible gales could develop in coastal areas between Kuri Bay and Pardoo later on Thursday or on Friday. Pilbara residents are advised that although the Pilbara coast west of Pardoo is not under threat in the next 48 hours, there is still a risk in that area over the weekend

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
-----------------------------------
A Cyclone WARNING has been declared for coastal areas from Kuri Bay to Bidyadanga.

A Cyclone WATCH continues for coastal areas from Bidyadanga to Pardoo

Forecast and Intensity
----------------------
12 HRS: 14.2S 121.0E - 50 knots [CAT 2]
24 HRS: 15.1S 121.0E - 70 knots [CAT 3]
48 HRS: 16.3S 121.0E - 85 knots [CAT 3]
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417. KoritheMan
7:47 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Stay safe out there, 0741.
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416. 0741
7:07 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
miami radar is out
415. 0741
6:43 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
786 WFUS52 KMFL 130641 TORMFL FLC011-130715- /O.NEW.KMFL.TO.W.0013.080213T0641Z-080213T0715Z/ BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED TORNADO WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 141 AM EST WED FEB 13 2008 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... WESTERN BROWARD COUNTY IN SOUTH FLORIDA. * UNTIL 215 AM EST * AT 139 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 6 MILES WEST OF INTERSECTION ALLIGATOR ALLEY AND MIAMI CANAL...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH. IF YOU ARE NEAR THE PATH OF A TORNADO...SEEK SHELTER IN A STURDY BUILDING ON THE LOWEST FLOOR...AWAY FROM OUTSIDE WALLS AND WINDOWS. GET UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 700 AM EST WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR SOUTHERN FLORIDA. LAT...LON 2633 8070 2631 8035 2604 8071 2615 8086 TIME...MOT...LOC 0641Z 218DEG 36KT 2618 8071
414. 0741
6:43 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
miami weather service working over time tonight
413. 0741
6:37 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
who here in miami area how you weather been tonight
412. 0741
6:35 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
i was say one after watch or warring their alot torando report tonight in south fl this south fl outbreak
411. 0741
6:32 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
i wont able to sleep on after other watch or warring i live in model home
410. HIEXPRESS
4:13 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Tornado Warning
Statement as of 10:59 PM EST on February 12, 2008
... A Tornado Warning remains in effect until 1130 PM EST for
northwestern Mainland Monroe County...

At 1059 PM EST... Weather Service Doppler radar continued to indicate
a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado. Damaging winds
in excess of 60 mph are also possible. This storm was located near
Wilderness Waterway north... moving northeast at 25 mph.

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408. HIEXPRESS
3:42 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
400, 401
maybe this is the difference
CIMSS mid level shear
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407. hahaguy
3:25 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
port st lucie .well thats according to my radar
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406. FLWeatherFreak91
3:17 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Where are you hahaguy?
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405. hahaguy
3:15 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
the storms are going NE right to me
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404. scwindsaloft
3:06 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Yea hahaguy, that cell has been trouble back when it was still in the GOM.
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402. hahaguy
3:03 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
tornado warning for south western palm beach county
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401. scwindsaloft
2:57 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
JFLORIDA what an amazing difference. I can't answer that one.
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399. scwindsaloft
2:50 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Look at the velocities from <this storm that came in collier county. Its got to be causing wind damage.
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398. BahaHurican
2:41 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Sorry SC, spelling error. Saw it as soon as the page refreshed.
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397. scwindsaloft
2:40 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
baha...can you resize that image?
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395. FLWeatherFreak91
2:38 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Wow, I can see a lot of features out in the Gulf that resemble fronts. Does anyone know which one is the front? There's a line over LA, one over the panhandle, and one approaching Tampa. What a mess
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394. BahaHurican
2:38 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
I notice Ivan is still going strong. It's currently forecast to restrengthen to hurricane force by Thursday.

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393. scwindsaloft
2:36 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Yea 23, they're training on the SW and SE FL coast
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392. hurricane23
2:33 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
If this mess holds together its going to be a loud night across extreme southeast miami dade county.

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391. scwindsaloft
2:29 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Nonetheless, that line is developing. Last tampa radar image is messed up!
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390. cchsweatherman
2:28 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Gotten lucky thus far in Southeast Florida. Looks like this low will be coming over South Florida. The storms off the SW Coast are very ominous and will produce some tornadoes in my opinion. Southeast Florida will get severe weather later during the night and especially tomorrow. Stay safe all.
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388. FLWeatherFreak91
2:19 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Someone please look at the Tampa radar and tell me if that's a bow echo setting up about 50 miles offshore. Thanks
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387. scwindsaloft
2:13 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Just posted a Tornado Warning for that rotating cell
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386. melwerle
1:56 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
I'm just never sure whether they are right or not - so many times they say it and then we get a blurb of rain and I've moved plants and rocking chairs and cars out of the driveway...didn't know what the opinion was...anywho - guess it won't hurt to drain the batteries on the radio tonight and irritate everyone in the house when it goes off.

Have a safe night everyone...
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385. scwindsaloft
1:55 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Be careful mel. Keep an open ear tonight while you sleep.
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384. scwindsaloft
1:51 AM GMT on February 13, 2008
Statement as of 8:03 PM EST on February 12, 2008


... Very strong thunderstorm approaching western Collier County...

At 759 PM EST... National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated a
very strong thunderstorm 29 miles southwest of Cape Romano... moving
northeast at 35 to 40 mph.

This storm will affect...

Cape Romano...
Marco Island...
Marco Island Airport...
fiddlers creek...
west Toll Gate on Alligator alley...
Picayune Strand state Forest...

And surrounding communities.

Frequent to excessive lightning... gusty winds to at least 50 mph... pea-sized
hail... torrential downpours... or a combination of these are possible.
Lightning is the number one weather related killer in Florida. Trees
and open shelters offer no protection. Wind gusts of up to 50 mph can
down small tree limbs and branches... and blow around unsecured small
objects. Seek shelter in a safe building until the storm passes.

Also... this storm is showing signs of rotation and the environment
is favorable for the development of tornadoes.


Residents near the path of this very strong storm should remain on the
alert for additional statements and possible warnings.

Stay tuned to NOAA Weather Radio and other local media for further
details or updates.

A Tornado Watch remains in effect until 1100 PM EST Tuesday evening
for southern Florida.

Lat... Lon 2632 8169 2632 8166 2636 8165 2622 8141
2594 8114 2585 8140 2589 8148 2584 8150
2587 8152 2591 8161 2589 8163 2592 8165
2590 8169 2588 8166 2584 8168 2598 8174
2609 8182 2616 8182
time... Mot... loc 0103z 227deg 39kt 2570 8206
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