Noel is gone; Atlantic is quiet

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:23 PM GMT on November 05, 2007

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All is quiet in the tropical Atlantic. The near-tropical depression that moved ashore last night over Nicaragua has dumped about 6 inches of rain over northeastern Nicaragua and Honduras. Disturbed weather continues in this region and over the adjacent ocean areas, but the activity has died down considerably since yesterday, and is not a threat to develop. None of the reliable computer models show any tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next week. Wind shear is expected to be high over the entire tropical Atlantic, except for the extreme southern Caribbean near Nicaragua and Costa Rica.

'Noreaster Noel
'Noreaster Noel whipped up some very impressive winds and waves over the weekend, and I have a few more stats to share on the storm. For Canada, here are some of the peak wind reports:

St. Paul Island: 62 mph gusting to 79 mph
Hart Island: 51 mph gusting 75 mph
Halifax Airport (20 kilometers inland): 58 gusting 70 mph.
Grand Etang, Cape Breton: 63 gusting 89 mph, though this is partly a local phenomenon, caused by amplification by the topography of the Cape Breton Highlands.

The peak waves at the Georgian Bank buoy 44011 were 45.6 feet. These were 6 feet higher than those measured during the famed "Perfect Storm" of October 1991. Noel's waves were the highest recorded at the buoy since the on-line record begins in 1984.

Thanks go to Peter Watson for the wind stats and Margie Kieper for the wave stats.

Wunderphotographer Mike Theiss was in Nova Scotia for the storm, and plans on posting his usual fantastic photos later today or Tuesday.

Jeff Masters

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TS NOEL - Dominican Republic (Tropicaldan)
These were sent to me here in St Martin by a colleague in the DR -very impressive
TS NOEL - Dominican Republic

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686. Ivansrvivr
4:31 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Hey flood, don't mess with the scantily dressed girls in Riviera....theyr'e either undercovers or gonna give you a surprise!!!!!!
685. Floodman
3:30 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
682. vortfix 9:26 AM CST on November 06, 2007
Sorry guys....the best rib shack I know of is in Riviera Beach....the Blue Front!
A lunch break is all good there.




Got to try that one next time I'm in...always ask the locals where the best food is, and dude, I can definitely ALWAYS go for BBQ
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683. Floodman
3:27 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
679. guygee 9:24 AM CST on November 06, 2007
Floodman - I've done the full route down A1A taking me through Riviera Beach too, and I recall that area always seems to have some thin scantily-dressed women slowly walking down Route 1 even in broad daylight, more of a symptom of what is west of there I imagine, so yeah, not necessarily an area I would want to detour into for a lunch break.



LOL...cheap perfume and cries of "Hey, baaabie! Wanna date?" Yep, we ran the same road, guygee LOL
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682. vortfix
3:26 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sorry guys....the best rib shack I know of is in Riviera Beach....the Blue Front!
A lunch break is all good there.
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681. Floodman
3:26 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
678. vortfix 9:19 AM CST on November 06, 2007
Top down....you go Flood!



The last time I was in FL for fun (and not wowrk) I was going to rent a little non-descript car jst to get around...had the one of the worast flights of my lofe, got into Orlando late, in a driving rain storm...got to the rental desk and the guy told me they were out of what I had rented, but would I mind a yellow 'stang rag top instead...I told him "yeah, uh huh...did I not brush the hayseeds off me before I got on the plane?"

Got to the spot expecting a 2001 POS, and found...a brand new yellow 'stang convertible...WOOT! I ran some roads that trip!
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680. LakeShadow
3:25 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
morgen freunds!
I got some freaky weather happening right now...sun-sleeting.
the low that was supposed to pass through got stuck behind a stationary front and this nice clipper is dragging things on a bit. Anyone with ideas of when that stationary front will break up? from the looks of it I'm getting SW/WSW winds all day. doesnt turn W/ NW until tomorrow...
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679. guygee
3:24 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Floodman - I've done the full route down A1A taking me through Riviera Beach too, and I recall that area always seems to have some thin scantily-dressed women slowly walking down Route 1 even in broad daylight, more of a symptom of what is west of there I imagine, so yeah, not necessarily an area I would want to detour into for a lunch break.
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678. vortfix
3:19 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Top down....you go Flood!
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677. Floodman
3:18 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
674. guygee 9:15 AM CST on November 06, 2007
vortfix - I only know your area due to much wandering. I think I did the circle around St Lucie Blvd and "old" St. Lucie Blvd 3 times on one trip before I figured it out, LOL.



ROTFLMAO...I did the same thing...WTF? How do I...where is...?!? Crap!
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676. vortfix
3:18 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Wandering is good here. If you got on Old St. Lucie Blvd.
You were really wandering!
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675. Floodman
3:17 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
672. guygee 9:06 AM CST on November 06, 2007
Love the A1A drive, Floodman, beats the drudgery and danger of I-95. I'll take the extra 30-45 minutes to enjoy the view (especially crossing those causeways near where vortfix lives). Then for me its usually St. Lucie Blvd to Indian St. to 76 and finally to I-95 heading south.



Some of the neighborhoods south of Riviera Beach always looked a little les than savory to me, but I've driven the whole thing a nimber of times and it's awesome...'specially with the top down
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674. guygee
3:15 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
vortfix - I only know your area due to much wandering. I think I did the circle around St Lucie Blvd and "old" St. Lucie Blvd 3 times on one trip before I figured it out, LOL.
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673. vortfix
3:10 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
See? We could have combined coolers...LOL

Is that where those extra beers flew from? LOL

Yeah, guygee....I have another place in Port Salerno....just south of Indian Street. Cool.
You know my area.
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672. guygee
3:06 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Love the A1A drive, Floodman, beats the drudgery and danger of I-95. I'll take the extra 30-45 minutes to enjoy the view (especially crossing those causeways near where vortfix lives). Then for me its usually St. Lucie Blvd to Indian St. to 76 and finally to I-95 heading south.
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671. HIEXPRESS
3:05 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
NWS Melbourne, FL has
archived Florida Dry Season Storm Tracks
They only go back to 01-02 so far, '99-00 would be closer to what we are looking at coming up.
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670. Floodman
3:03 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
See? We could have combined coolers...LOL

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669. vortfix
2:58 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I was three miles from you drinkin beer too! LOL
Yeah, this is a very beautiful area guygee. I'm happy to be here....but it was ground zero for two in three weeks.
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668. Floodman
2:57 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
guygee, I agree...A1A rocks...
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667. Floodman
2:56 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
660. vortfix 8:55 AM CST on November 06, 2007
Oh yeah.....Frances the slo-mo Bimbo and Jeanne! Both right up the inlet!




I was about three miles from you during Jeanne...drinking beer and going "oh sh#$" and "wow" a lot...
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666. V26R
2:56 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Amazing isn't it Vort!

LOL

Took the Stupid pill this morning by mistake
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665. NEwxguy
2:56 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
661. Floodman 2:55 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
659. NEwxguy 8:54 AM CST on November 06, 2007
652. vortfix 2:48 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I'm around here.....

I think you need a few more golf clubs around your area.



Hmmm...like yours, for example?

I like the way you think
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664. guygee
2:56 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Vortfix - From your map I must have driven nearly by your house dozens of times, as I always like to take the "scenic route" down A1A when coming from my home in Satellite Beach to visit relatives in Boca Raton. You live in an exceptionally beautiful area...but if I recall correctly, it was also near ground zero in 2004 for Frances.
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663. vortfix
2:56 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I think you need a few more golf clubs around your area.


That's funny! LMAO!!
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662. TheCaneWhisperer
2:55 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
607. jphurricane2006 1:17 PM GMT on November 06, 2007 Hide this comment.
morning all, well La Nina being this strong, I worry about the drought areas, if the SE does stay dry, how bad is it going to be by the time we get to the wet season again
?

I worry about the drought as well JP! Lake O is still 5 feet below normal and starting to drop already. Dry season is upon us, a La Nina dry season that is.
661. Floodman
2:55 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
659. NEwxguy 8:54 AM CST on November 06, 2007
652. vortfix 2:48 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I'm around here.....

I think you need a few more golf clubs around your area.



Hmmm...like yours, for example?
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660. vortfix
2:55 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Oh yeah.....Frances the slo-mo Bimbo and Jeanne! Both right up the inlet!
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659. NEwxguy
2:54 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
652. vortfix 2:48 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I'm around here.....

I think you need a few more golf clubs around your area.
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658. vortfix
2:53 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Hmmmmm.... V26R.
Looks like you live on top of my place!
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657. V26R
2:53 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
DUH

I didn't do that did I???

Link
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656. Floodman
2:53 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Vort, were you there for Frances and Jeanne?
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655. V26R
2:50 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Cool
Didn't know Google can do that!

Im right hereLink
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654. guygee
2:50 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sorry vortfix. I am guessing that this flooding was related at least peripherally to the southern trough associated with Noel combined with the tropical wave that resulted in that near-depression coming onshore farther south. I was unaware of these conditions until reading that small Guardian article today. Hopefully Dr. Masters can fill us in in his next blog.
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653. V26R
2:48 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Actually up to 48 now
was 42 when I got MSA out of bed this morning
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652. vortfix
2:48 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I'm around here.....
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651. V26R
2:47 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
NEWX Im on Southern Tip of Staten Island, NYC
right where Raritan Bay meets the Arthur Kill
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650. Floodman
2:45 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Thanks, guygee, for the update...still amazes me sometimes how much we have and how little others have...most of the folks in Chiapas have no pad to fall back on; going to be a rough time in Central America
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649. NEwxguy
2:45 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I really feel for the people in Mexico,looks so bad down there.
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648. vortfix
2:44 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Geez....now Guygee had to post that.....I read it earlier. I have no humor now.
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647. NEwxguy
2:43 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
643. V26R 2:39 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sure rub it in Vort
Its about 40 Degrees with wind and rain here this morning


where are you located?I'm 51 and raining.
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646. vortfix
2:43 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Rub a dub.....
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645. Floodman
2:42 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
vort, 48 with a nice north wind here...trade ya!
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644. NEwxguy
2:42 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
643. V26R 2:39 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sure rub it in Vort
Its about 40 Degrees with wind and rain here this morning


my thoughts exactly
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643. V26R
2:39 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sure rub it in Vort
Its about 40 Degrees with wind and rain here this morning
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642. guygee
2:39 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Good morning all.
The London Guardian is reporting today a large deadly mudslide and a subsequent flash flood that is feared to have killed at least 16 in the Mexican State of Chiapas. According to reports, "a huge wave of mud and water swept through a village in southern Mexico when heavy rainfall caused a hillside to collapse into a river" (pushing) "a wall of water and debris over the remote village of San Juan Grijalva, home to about 600 people."

Though the state of Chiapas is rich in resources, ranking 2nd in agricultural production and 4th in the production of oil among the states of Mexico, the largely indigenous population of Chiapas is the poorest in Mexico, in some ways similar to the semi-autonomous Moskito Indian area of Nicaragua in its relationship to the national government. The majority of the inhabitants of Chiapas lack electricity and 40% reportedly suffer from malnourishment. As with the Mayan areas damaged by Dean and the Moskito areas blasted by Felix, it is likely that the true toll in lives and property from this disaster will never be known.

Also reported is "a week of devastating flooding and heavy rains(that)left 80% of Mexico's Gulf Coast state of Tabasco underwater, destroying or damaging the homes of around half a million people." This seems to be a disaster of immense proportion, but I have no further information at this time.
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641. vortfix
2:37 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Mornin all. A pleasant 74 and sunny.....looks like a great day here.
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640. V26R
2:36 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Sometimes ua Amateurs are a little better than the paid pros
Not all the time mind you but sometimes
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639. Floodman
2:36 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
GM Flood,they are out on strike in support of the tv writers.


LOL...I can see that!
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638. NEwxguy
2:35 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
634. Floodman 2:30 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Don't know...do you remeber when the wind shear product wasn't showing up? I emailed and phoned out there to see if they could bring those products back up.


I emailed Hart to see if something can get done...he's the only contact on the page; is there someone else?

GM Flood,they are out on strike in support of the tv writers.
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637. Floodman
2:33 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
I don't think so...it's my understanding that the page is his project.


Hopefully he won't take offense at a mere amateur contacting him...LOL
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636. Floodman
2:31 PM GMT on November 06, 2007
Good morning V2, vortfix...how are you guys this morning?
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