Katrina a Category 1, still incredibly destructive

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:27 PM GMT on August 29, 2005

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Katrina continues to move northwards and accelerate through Mississippi. Katrina is now a Category 1 hurricane with 95 mph winds, but still causing massive storm surge flooding, tornadoes, wind damage, and rain water flooding. Numerous tornadoes continue to be spawned out of Katrina's spiral bands, and the National Weather Service is also issuing tornado warnings for "destructive winds near 110 mph in the eyewall and inner rain bands of Hurricane Katrina." This is a new warning technique that is used to trigger the emergency response needed for a tornado-like threat. There are not actually tornadoes occurring for these tornado warnings.

Storm surge and rainfall
According to NHC and NWS sources, peak storm surge values were 22 feet in Bay Saint Louis, MS, and 20 feet along many areas of eastern Louisiana. Southwest Lake Pontchartrain received a 10-12 foot storm surge. Mobile Bay received a 9-12 foot storm surge, and Biloxi at least 10 feet. Exact surge heights have been difficult to measure since most of the tide gauges were destroyed by the hurricane. Peak rainfall from Katrina was over the central coast of Mississippi, where radar estimated 8-12 inches fell.

Six weather radars fail
As of 11am EDT, communications with six National Weather Service radar sites failed. No radar information is available from the New Orleans, Lake Charles, and Fort Polk stations in Louisiana, Jackson and Columbus AFB stations in Mississippi, and the Red Bay station in the Florida Panhandle. The NWS offices are still able to send out warnings and forecasts.

What's behind Katrina?
Tropical Depression 13 died early this morning, the victim of wind shear. The remains of TD 13, located about 700 miles east-northeast of the Lesser Antilles, do have the potential to re-develop into a depression later in the week as they move northwest over the open ocean.

A new tropical wave near 10N 35W is large, well-organized, and has developed a circulation. I expect this wave will become a tropical depression in the next day or two as it moves west-northwest towards the Leeward Islands.

Dr. Jeff Masters

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732. xkcd
8:40 AM GMT on September 01, 2005
Sometime earlier tonight all the gas stations in Newport News, VA ran out. I can't find any news on it (as of about 5:00 GMT, just got net back) but the stations all have blank signs and no gas except diesel.

Rumor here has it that there's no gas for sale in either North or South Carolina, anywhere.

Anyone got more information? I've never seen gas stations be out before (I was born a little too late to remember the Seventies)
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731. GardenVarietyDuke
10:19 PM GMT on August 31, 2005
I recently bought property around Poplarville, MS. Since my house in N.O. is pretty much gone, I was wondering if anyone new how bad the Poplarville area was hit. I may have to relocate there sooner than I planned if it hasn't been completely devastated as well. Any info would be very greatly appreciated.
730. POTMROTS
9:55 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Hi all,

Does anyone have friends or family in or near Pascgagoula, MS ?

I'm trying to find my Dad and any info would help.

Roads getting there open or closed? Are they letting people go back to their homes?

Any info would help.

Thank you.

729. franck
9:04 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Note the storm damage estimates as low as 9 bilion dollars. Supposedly, from 'TV' sources, New Orleans alone has about 115 billion insured. Therefore these estimates seem a little low, right? Isn't the city at least 25% gone, with infrastructure damage which will stop most commerce for many months? Consider the countless number of smaller areas with even more windstorm damage loss per capita. Shouldn't these estimates be coming in at 50-100 billion? The damage estimates are directly proportional to how much 'capital aid' begins going back into the city.
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728. stmarylalady
5:39 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
good morning lefty....wondered where you were. Got some sleep?
727. leftyy420
2:34 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
goodmorning everyone
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726. oriondarkwood
1:14 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Lovethetropics,

Yes they are going to have a hard time no matter what. I heard on the news that a project 1 to 1.5 million people where displaced by the storm and it could take months before people could be let back into the worse hit areas. Which could be longer if the secondary effects of this hurricane happen (ie disease outbreaks, leeve's giving way, another tropical system, chemical cleanup etc.. etc..)
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725. Sheraqueenofthebeach
1:13 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Scotty...he hasn't been on since before the storm hit.
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724. scottyndbfl
1:05 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
I have been away for a while, did anyone ever apologize to STORMTOP for bashing over the CAT 5 prediction???
723. Lovethetropics
12:57 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Hi Orion: I was thinking watching the news that if they make a tent or trailer temporary camp it will be very dangerous because of the future hurricanes. I don't know if there are any real alternatives though.
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722. HillsboroughBay
12:54 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Think of a 2 block wide opening in a damn. ( Small???)

Mayor of Nola said Hrs ago that this is the worst yet. Parts of city were under 20 ft of water @ that time. People are trapped in atic's

CNN had this Hours before the Bill Gates network. MSNBC.

I think Bill needs to make a BIG donation wit Opra to help support the rescue efforts.
721. oriondarkwood
12:51 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
I been thinking the nightmare might not be over, we still got a couple of months left. Its entirely possible for the area to get hit again. Its the downside of having roughly 40 years of average to less than average seasons before it picked up again in the mid 90's. The real scary thing would be what is thier is uber-hurricane seasons/cycles that we have no seen yet since we only been keeping detailed weather records for a little over 100 years. I am talking a season where tropical systems form at a average rate of 2 a week for the season and that over 70% of them become major hurricanes...

Don't mean to be a doomsayer but its a sobering thought
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720. Gatorbait05
12:40 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
The newest Levee breach is a small 2 block breach that is not causing severe harm in New Orleans. This is per MSNBC.
719. HillsboroughBay
12:22 PM GMT on August 30, 2005
Let's try to keep it under control. It's 1 foot per hour.

How important is the Levee...

The Levee* holds back the water from a large lake that is higher than the city in NORMAL conditions. Lake was @ flood stage & is draining into the city. I have heard that the Mississippi River has spillways to divert overflow around the city but I do not know anything about how it works. Only what I see on CNN.
718. Lovethetropics
11:28 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Good morning guys. I guess that everybody is still sleeping or cleaning up after Katrina. Are there any news from Stormtop? Hoping all bloggers and family and friends are safe. Aida
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717. JupiterFL
9:59 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Any time there is water inolved, a little hole will gradually become a big hole. The water will keep getting larger due to the pressure of the water releasing.
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716. johnsonwax
8:45 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Has anyone considered how the river will affect the city over the next few days as all the rain dropped all the way up to PA starts running back down to NO? A lot of water has fallen between the river and the appalachians, and it all goes down the same pipe in the end...
715. JustaPerson
8:29 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Yes it is interesting a levve breaks, I am from New Zealand and would like to know, if someone could say, how IMPORTANT is the Levee and is the whole structure important or just parts of it?
I am unsure, for instance if just a small portion breaks if that is such a bad thing?
714. noreaster78
8:22 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
levee break confirmed, seems to not be a lot of coverage about it though. Isn't something like this one of the "filling the bowl" scenarios everyone was worried about?
713. StormJunkie
7:41 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Corps of engineers to speak on levee breach with in hour.
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712. iyou
7:37 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
syd - www.wkrg.com
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711. syd
7:33 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
What live online news streams from the affected area are folks listening to here? Thanks.
710. StormJunkie
7:07 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
CNN has had a live reporter at one of the hospitals near tulane. They now have 6 feet of water.
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709. StormJunkie
7:04 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Water is rising at 1" every 5 minutes. God no the bowl is filling.
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708. bekroweather
6:32 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
According to a doctor in the Tulane Univ. Hospital a levee just broke between New Orleans and the lake. Water is entering Canal St. and inside the hospital it is increasing really fast to the point that ambulances can no longer enter. She was talking to CNN and she said the the police confirmed the problem with the levee.
707. StormJunkie
6:29 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
2 block breach in lake p. levee. At 17th and canal.
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706. prttyeyez2002
5:59 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Spewey Ch.2 they just said that all those people are still in the superdome...that they have to find shelters for them first before they can be moved.
705. spewey
5:58 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Goodnight all. Prtteyez, good luck overnight; it's just rain and wind here for the most part. It's gonna be high winds in the morning though. Watch those creeks if you are driving overnight.

Peace everyone.
704. leftyy420
5:53 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
they won't keep them in the dome long. u must understand the storm just hit today. fema will probly bstart seting up tent cities tomm or wed. but i understand what ur saying and the tent cities won't be any better. but remeebr they are alive and i know for a time yesterday and this morning some of if not all those people thought they were going to die and they survived. that probly is giving them strength to go on
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703. spewey
5:53 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Yes, windy already here, prttyeyez, but the inland tropical storm warning doesn't even take effect for another two hours. Calling for winds in the 40s and gusts in the sixties or higher. I can't expect power to stay on forever. Trees being blown down in the lower part of the state. But nothing like what Mississippi and Alabama went through.
702. StormJunkie
5:51 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Waves are just rolling off of Africa.
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701. prttyeyez2002
5:47 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Thanks Spewey ..it is raining so hard here right now...and the wind is howling pretty good I opened the door and the wind pulled it out of my hands...it looks like its gonna be a long nite...my mom lives in Tuscaloosa AL and she said it was rough down there..they've been out of power since about 6:30.
700. spewey
5:45 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Those people in the Dome must be under heavy psychological stress. A night last night away from home, all those people, worrying about what might happen to their homes, the rain through the roof this morning, loss of all but emergency power, no AC, high humidity, stinky people, worried people, being moved to other areas, having to stay in a stadium seat for hours, no idea if they'll be released.

I know they have it easier than those trapped in attics and on roofs, but this has to be a horrid experience. The Guard could keep them confined in there for days since the city is without power and water, and days in a seat without a shower, without fresh air, oh my it's hard to imagine.
699. spewey
5:41 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Good luck prttyeyez; wind is picking up here. Local news reports many trees being blown down in Lawrence County on the ALA line.

The land of Uncle Dave will come through, have faith.
698. leftyy420
5:40 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
its sad and lonely
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697. prttyeyez2002
5:38 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Spewey we just lost power again...only off for about 15 min this time ...I'm afraid its gonna be ugly around here as we are arural area.
696. StormJunkie
5:37 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Spewey you the people in the Dome are lucky. Lefty- you just saw that CNN story? People are stuck in attics over a 20 square mile area and rescuers had to walk away due to dark and other dangers. Water may still be rising. That is awful. Many will make the storm, just will not get rescued in time.
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695. leftyy420
5:37 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
they won't be in the dome much longer. fema willcome in and these people will be put in tent cities adn than into trailer camps.
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694. spewey
5:34 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
With maybe 20,000 homeless in New Orleans, are they going to keep these homeless in the Dome for months until they can rebuild? It's gotta be awful being confined to one seat even for two days. I can't see staying there for weeks or months. It must be awful in there tonight, high humidity from the leaks, no AC, limited power. I'd be cranky myself; I can't imagine what these people are going through. Do they even let them out for a breath of fresh air?
693. leftyy420
5:32 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
man that is just to much
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692. StormJunkie
5:29 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
People will stay in dome for now.
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691. StormJunkie
5:28 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
That lady on cnn just put it all in perspective. Suspended rescue till morning. Were leaving and still heard people yelling. Most did not even have holes in the roofs. Water may still be rising.
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690. spewey
5:26 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Does anyone know if all those people are still in the Superdome? Will they be held there for days since there is no power and parts of the city are still flooded? Is this gonna delay the Saints opening day? What are they planning to do with the people in there? I can't imagine their mood is particularly pleasant.
689. leftyy420
5:24 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
yeah i am going to bed to nite all
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688. spewey
5:24 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
prettyeyez--Nashville, between Franklin and Gallatin.
687. StormJunkie
5:23 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
Good night all.
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686. Orleans77
5:23 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
LOL...allright she breakin out the lingerie...shes on a mission...nite all
685. leftyy420
5:22 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
nite 77
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684. leftyy420
5:22 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
lol thats funny 77. my wife is the same way. she asked me many times over the last 3 days "did u leave that chair at all today"
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683. Orleans77
5:22 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
thks storm...ill try to stay airborne for a little bit...
682. Orleans77
5:21 AM GMT on August 30, 2005
shes pretty cute so i better listen to her......

nite guys...

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