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Warmer Water, SUPER HURRICANES
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:33 PM GMT on July 24, 2007 +5
The July 2007 issue of Scientific American has an article called "Warmer Oceans, Stronger Hurricanes" (referred to as "Warmer Water, SUPER HURRICANES" on the cover). The article is written by Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, and a lead author on the landmark 2007 climate report issued by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The article makes the case that "evidence is mounting that global warming enhances a cyclone's damaging winds and flooding rains." The article presents some solid evidence to substantiate that point of view, which I will share below. However, I was disappointed in the general tone of the piece, which was over-hyped and did not paint an objective view of the current scientific thinking on the global warming/hurricane issue.

The hype
First off, the reader is hit with a dramatic full-page artist's depiction of the global super-hurricane of the future--a massive 5000-mile diameter Caribbean storm the size of North America. The storm's 200-mile eye is wider than the Florida Peninsula! Whoa, I said when looking at the whopper "SciAmicane". No doubt many readers perusing the magazine, trying to decide whether to buy it, had the same reaction and plunked down their $5 to read about this grim threat. OK, lets talk reality here. The largest tropical cyclone on record, Supertyphoon Tip of 1979, had a diameter of 1380 miles--less than one third the size of the SciAmicane. A storm like the SciAmicane cannot physically exist on Earth unless the oceans were to super-heat to about 122°F (50°C). Only an asteroid impact or similar calamity could create such a hypercane. Even the most extreme global warming scenarios do not heat the oceans to 122°, so the SciAmicane is there to sell magazines, not to illustrate what global warming might do to hurricanes.


Figure 1. Comparison of sizes: the Earth, the largest tropical cyclone on record (Supertyphoon Tip of 1979, 1380 miles in diameter), and the recently discovered hurricane-like vortex on Saturn (the Saturnicane). The "SciAmicane" is about the same size as the Saturnicane--5000 miles across.

The article also calls attention to 2004, when "an unprecedented four hurricanes hit Florida, and 10 typhoons made landfall in Japan". I've erroneously made this statement, too, but the truth is that Japan was hit by only four typhoons in 2004. Ten tropical cyclones that were of typhoon strength at some point during their life did hit, yes, but six of these had decayed to tropical storm or tropical depression strength by the time they hit Japan. The article then refers to a "consensus explanation" emerging to explain recent hurricane activity patterns, and "that explanation forebodes meteorological trouble over the long term." I'd say that the issue is still very much under dispute. In fact, the consensus statement on hurricanes and climate change adopted by the World Meteorological Organization in December 2006, in response to the recommendations of a panel of 125 hurricane researchers was thus: "Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point." Trenberth's article gives a list of four publications to read in the "more to explore" section, but none of these include the recent articles that call into question the strength of the global warming/stronger hurricane connection. (I apologize for not reviewing the many excellent articles that have appeared on this subject of late!)

The good science
There's quite a bit of good science in the article, which is worth reading if one keeps in mind its biases. In particular, I like the discussion of how global warming has affected precipitation and atmospheric water vapor. The 0.6°C (1.0°F) rise in Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) globally since 1970 has increased water vapor in the atmosphere by 4%, thanks to increased evaporation. This in turn has led to an 8% increase in global precipitation. Trenberth makes the point that no given hurricane can be blamed on global warming, but one can say 8% of a given storm's rainfall is due to global warming. There's also a nice discussion about how weaker than normal trade winds over the tropical Atlantic in 2005 caused less evaporational cooling than normal, allowing the ocean to heat to record temperatures. Finally, the conclusion of the article is one I certainly agree with:

We would all be wise to plan for more extreme hurricane threats.

Both theory and computer models predict a 3-5% increase in hurricane winds per degree C increase in tropical SSTs, and there is concern that the actual increase may be much more than this.

Jeff Masters

For a technical treatment of hypercanes, see Dr. Kerry Emanuel's paper, Hypercanes: a possible link in global extinction scenarios.
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1251. Tropicnerd13 5:13 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
hi guys. how's our african low doing? im gonna stretch the blog with some pics so you can see all the disturbances.^_^
gom
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1252. 900MB 5:14 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Wonder when the good doctor will surface on the CATL disturbance?
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1253. DaytonaBeachWatcher 5:14 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
yeah u could be right, it is hard to tell sometimes with these models. the GFS has had the CATL wave going backwards(east) for a few runs, which is weird. Anyway we all have a couple things to watch now and reason to wait impatiently for the next model runs, and the next, and the next...
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1254. wederwatcher555 5:14 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
wow the steering currents like 04-05esque
1255. Tropicnerd13 5:15 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
hey wait are there two low pressure systems next to each other between south america and africa? CoOl! blob i mean low watching time.
1256. TexJonnie 5:15 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Afternoon, All. Looks like there's something to watch now!? Anything for Texas (Houston's way)?
1257. Drakoen 5:17 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
definately something to watch over the next few days.
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1259. Tropicnerd13 5:18 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
here's another pic. this is of african waves. looks like a big one coming off soon.
afr
1260. amazinwxman 5:19 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
it was just said on tv that the CATL wave we're talking about here is just part of the ITCZ and nothing more and it won't form or do anything since it won't be breaking away from the ITCZ is this true?
1261. TexJonnie 5:19 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
BOC = Bay of Campeche? (newb here, sorry...)

TJ
1262. Tropicnerd13 5:20 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
what's that thing in the gulf? rain for texas or mexico? nvmnd. that wave we are watching looks like a great td. why isnt it categorized yet? no flights able to reach it i guess.
1263. Drakoen 5:21 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: amazinwxman at 5:19 PM GMT on July 25, 2007.

it was just said on tv that the CATL wave we're talking about here is just part of the ITCZ and nothing more and it won't form or do anything since it won't be breaking away from the ITCZ is this true?


lol. look where the ITCZ is... South of the blob.

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1264. Tropicnerd13 5:23 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
wxman or what ever your name is, are you watching twc or the local station? if you are watching twc, dont listen to it. listen to your local weather persons. they at least know to talk about the tropics instead of cruises. i bet twc is only saying that so they can advertise for cruises.
1265. amazinwxman 5:23 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
if that wave on the map is the one talked about then the wave is along the ITCZ not north of it.
1266. CaicosRetiredSailor 5:25 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
TJ
BOC = Bay of Campeche?

YES
CRS
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1267. Drakoen 5:25 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
the suspected area are of low presure is near 12N. the system can feed of the moisture in the ITCZ if it is out of it.
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1268. Patrap 5:26 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
GOES IR Loop of Gulf of Mexico Link
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1269. Tropicnerd13 5:27 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
hey why is everyone ignoring me? go to this noaa link and see all the pics in one.
1270. ryang 5:30 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
LOL... Drak i mistyped on my blog...
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1271. weathers4me 5:31 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Is the BH migrating Westward? If so I think we may be seeing a repeat of 04-05. Thoughts?
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1272. Drakoen 5:32 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: ryang at 5:30 PM GMT on July 25, 2007.

LOL... Drak i mistyped on my blog...


lol ok.
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1274. Tropicnerd13 5:35 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
there is some circulation with a ull and a mll WAY north of trinadad and tobago. what are those called? extra tropical?
1276. franck 5:36 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
PR..hey dude, that's a visible loop. Blowin' up though, huh. Bet the shear will moderate it.
But you do have a trolling motor on your FEMA trailer don't you?
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1277. Chicklit 5:36 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
04-05esque... That's a good one!
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1279. franck 5:37 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Just kidding. How ya'll doing over there?
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1281. al3112 5:37 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Hey did anyone read the drudge report they are forecasting one less storm to form
1283. Tropicnerd13 5:39 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
well im gonna leave sinse none of yall care about what i have to say. are yall just like ignoring me or something?
1285. DaytonaBeachWatcher 5:41 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
OMG nobody is ignoring you, did u ask a question related to the weather? i missed it sorry
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1286. weatherboykris 5:41 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
tropicnerd,stop being a whiny little brat everytime you come in here.No one's ignoring you,all you post is satellite images.There's no real responses you can make to them.No one's ignoring you,we just,well,have nothing to say to you.
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1288. weatherbrat 5:43 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Where can I find, or can someone post a link, of the forecast models? I'm talking about the models that would show the tracking of the storms, not the models that show predictions of storm development, I have those.

Thank you!
1289. Tropicnerd13 5:43 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
well at least one of yall isnt ignoring me. i didnt realize that until AFTER i posted all those images. sorry. does that blob in catl we are watching have circulation or do the clouds just happen to look like that?
1290. DaytonaBeachWatcher 5:45 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
not sure i know what u mean brat, both show both as far as i am concerned
.... which ones do u have?
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1292. mgreen91 5:47 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Globe warming must be on hold in the tropical Atlantic?

Forecaster cuts 2007 hurricane outlook
Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:56PM EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) -The 2007 hurricane season may be less severe than forecast due to cooler-than-expected water temperatures in the tropical Atlantic, private forecaster WSI Corp said on Tuesday.
The season will bring 14 named storms, of which six will become hurricanes and three will become major hurricanes, WSI said in its revised outlook. WSI had previously expected 15 named storms of which eight would become hurricanes and four would become major hurricanes.
"Because the ocean temperatures have not yet rebounded from the significant drop in late spring, we have decided to reduce our forecast numbers slightly," said Todd Crawford, a WSI seasonal forecaster….
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1293. Drakoen 5:47 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: weatherboykris at 5:41 PM GMT on July 25, 2007.

tropicnerd,stop being a whiny little brat everytime you come in here.No one's ignoring you,all you post is satellite images.There's no real responses you can make to them.No one's ignoring you,we just,well,have nothing to say to you.


LOL.
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1294. mgreen91 5:48 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
The African dust cloud doesn't seem to be disipating anytime soon either, just like in 2006. It cuts off any chance of storm convection.
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1295. Tropicnerd13 5:49 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
well sorry just no one really answers my questions so i think you dont care. anyway, go to this link and see the low i was talking about. wbk, sorry. not trying to be whiny, but just wanted to know the reason why no one was answering. can someone post the website to get the model runs please? i just want to see where you get those.
1297. gthsii 5:49 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
weatherbrat: i dont think they track blobs...once it becomes an invest or TD and better then forecasts tracks are produced.
1298. TexJonnie 5:49 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Amazinwxman... I tried to say something in chat but couldn't get anything to type... sorry about that... hope y'all don't think I was rude.

TJ
1299. weatherboykris 5:50 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Fair enough,I could've been more polite.I've just been reading him complain about us ignoring him for a week now and I finally snapped.Sorry,no one's ignoring you.
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1301. weatherboykris 5:52 PM GMT on July 25, 2007    
Posted By: Tropicnerd13 at 5:20 PM GMT on July 25, 2007.

what's that thing in the gulf? rain for texas or mexico? nvmnd. that wave we are watching looks like a great td. why isnt it categorized yet? no flights able to reach it i guess.


The flights could reach it,there's just no surface low.No development will occur.
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