Transcript of the NHC press conference; QuikSCAT science

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:27 PM GMT on July 06, 2007

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The National Hurricane Center political controversy continues today. In an Associated Press story released this morning, Senior Hurricane Specialist James Franklin of the National Hurricane Center commented on Bill Proenza's QuikSCAT claims, saying:

"He has been very loudly saying if it failed our forecasts for landfalling storms would be degraded, that warning areas would need to be expanded. None of that is the case, and he knows that we feel that way. The science is not there to back up the claims that he's making."

This was the same case I made in my blog yesterday. However, in comments published in the Miami Herald today, Dr. Bob Atlas, a QuikSCAT scientist who runs NOAA's Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory on Virginia Key, rose to defend Proenza. To quote from the Herald:

He said the report challenged by Masters, even if not yet published, appears to be a "rigorous study" that provides the "most comprehensive study of QuikSCAT data related to hurricane predictions."

Atlas said nothing he has heard Proenza say about QuikSCAT has made him wince, though Atlas added that NOAA is developing ways to mitigate the loss of QuikSCAT data.

In addition, he said, Proenza's estimates of 16 percent and 10 percent have been misunderstood: They apply to the accuracy of one of many computerized forecast models rather than actual, end-result predictions by hurricane forecasters.

"Bill's worked very hard and very well to position the hurricane center to interact well with researchers," Atlas said.


Dr. Atlas was mis-quoted by Time Magazine, who printed this:

Bob Atlas, director of NOAA's Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory in Miami, insist that Proenza's concerns "are very well founded. QuickScat is the most valuable forecasting tool." Atlas says he applauds Proenza's outspokenness, predicting it will "accelerate the effort to replace QuickScat with an even better scatterometer satellite."

I talked with Dr. Atlas this morning, and what he actually said is that "NCEP's Ocean Prediction Center (OPC) have referred to QuikSCAT as the most valuable tool they have." OPC issues the high seas marine forecasts and warnings for the North Atlantic and North Pacific. Dr. Atlas did not say QuickSCAT is the most valuable forecasting tool for hurricane forecasting which it is not. Dr. Atlas and I both agree on what the science says about QuikSCAT. I respect his support for Proenza, and hope that Proenza's superiors in Washington take into account all the facts in the case. I did my best to present what I know of the science in my blog yesterday. No one knows the full story of what's going on at NHC, but this morning's press conference, done by staff members at NHC who oppose Proenza, will help clarify things. A transcript was sent to me by WTVJ, the NBC Station in Miami.

Transcript of this morning's press conference

Senior Hurricane Specialist James Franklin
We have been a family here, we are a small group of about 50 people. When things are really happening, we've got a Katrina out there or a Rita type of storms, everybody needs to stop what they're doing and pull together and make sure our message gets out and that we're doing the best job that we can to make the best forecast. We've got a lot of people pulling together to do that. That takes a certain amount of teamwork and appreciation of sense of family and he's destroying that, he's destroying that.

He's divided the staff, and it's hard to know how we're going to be able to come together with him here. One thing that happened yesterday when the staff met, and talked about these issues and a lot of people learned for the first time about some of the issues going on yesterday, and that brought a lot of the staff together. You saw a number of people speaking out both in terms of 3 to 23 yesterday. We found out what was really going on here. and I think you're going to see more later on.

I was very very gratified, we had a wonderful meeting with staff, including those who have been prior supporters of Bill. And we're learning a lot of things for the very first time. There we're a number of people who agreed with us, didn't like the idea of going to the press, but felt he needed to go, there are a fair number of people who didn't sign the letter for that reason. They wanted to keep it in house, and I certainly understand that. About 70-percent of the people who were in the discussion yesterday, put their names on the paper.

I think we've learned an awful lot about Bill here, during the last six months that maybe we didn't know.

We would have liked to have seen Bill realize that he didn't have the support of the staff and step down. That's not going to happen apparently. The process, the Dept. of Commerce process, I imagine needs to go forward. I think it would be nice if they could take him out of the office while that process goes on, those are not decisions we can make.

Lixion Avila-Senior Hurricane Forecaster
-Been here longer than any other forecaster
-Worked for 5-hurricane directors

I was Bill's stronger supporter, I went with him to the Caribbean with the hurricane hunter plane. To develop the hurricane hunter plan, like I did with all the directors. And I'm very upset (loud truck drives by) that he's been misrepresenting the views of the National Hurricane Center, and the hurricane plan. That plan was developed by the previous five hurricane directors, it's a jewel, it's the best in the world and it's been something that Neil Frank, Bob Sheets and Jerry Jarrel and developed for 20-years in six months he wants to destroy that plan.

For example he, I'm a scientist not a manager, and I don't know anything about management, but I can tell you that he came to my office telling me that he wants my advice, that he can not work here if he doesn't hear my advice.. very helpful with the previous directors, and he asked me, and I said the first thing you need to do is quit talking about that QuikSCAT and tell him that is out of line, will help all the problems. And he says he will do that, instead he goes back to the media, and you don't publish that you only publish the good things he said.

He said that we don't want to work with him, because he brings many good ideas, and we don't want to do that. I want you to know that he has not made a hurricane forecast since 1964.

That satellite, I gave that example to many people here. There are many things more important than that satellite. Of course I want that someone to have that satellite. The example I gave everybody is like having a BMW with leather seats. If you don't have leather seats that BMW is going to ruin, and we are going to make a very damn good forecast this year, with Bill or without Bill, and I think. I'm being very emotional, because I was his strongest supporter and I feel betrayed.

I was the last forecaster to join the group. They were smarter than me, I was giving him one more chance. Two day's ago when he came to my office and said please, what should I do to solve this problem? And I was very naive and I told him you need to stop fighting, pretending you're David against Goliath, and all those things with NOAA. The public thinks you're a hero, but you're not. You just need to develop your time and saving the hurricane program that your predecessor developed so nicely, this castle that has been done here. and he went back and said he was going to do that, he went to the media and said the opposite, and that's the end, thank you.

James Franklin
I want to say something about the QuikSCAT issue because, because that's important. The QuikSCAT satellite, is important to us, it does a lot of good things for us. We want a next generation advanced instrument, however there are a lot of things that current instrument cannot do, and by misrepresenting the case for that satellite, he has made it seem so urgent and so important. That what we're afraid of, that we'll get a quick fix, a copy of the kind of thing with existing technology. And within a couple of years we'll be in exactly the same position same situation. QuikSCAT is not a tool to help us improve track forecasts, that's how it's been misrepresented. Bill waves this NOAA report that some of my colleagues worked on and said look this is it. That report did not address track forecast accuracy, that is another one of the misrepresentations.

QuikSCAT is important to help us understand the size of the wind field, the strength, the current instrument has a lot of trouble with rain, a lot of rain in tropical cyclones. We need to move forward if we take the time develop the technology further and in a few more years get at the technology that really helps us get at the intensity problem, that's where our forecast problem really is. We've made great strides with track, as you know we're having a lot more problems with intensity, and doing the QuikSCAT problem correctly, taking our time, developing new technology is one of the tools that we need to help solve the intensity problem. But because of the way it's been portrayed we're afraid that there's going to be a quick fix that's not going to address the track problem, and it doesn't address the track problem and it isn't going to end up helping us with what the forecasters really know will help us.

We've see members of the Congress talking about how the information from the recognizance aircraft are inferior to QuikSCAT, we're afraid that somebody might get it in their heads to fund a stopgap QuikSCAT to take funds from recon aircraft. There is no comparison, there is not a forecaster here who believes QuikSCAT is more important than recon aircraft or other tools we have. But because this issue has been misreported we're afraid we might lose what we have.

We've got forecasters still back at there desks doing their jobs and they'll continue doing that. But there's a lot of people losing sleep over this, and as we get into august September, October, I don't think you want a bunch of tired sick, forecasters working the forecast desk. I think it takes a full effort. It's not just about doing our jobs, we need to go over and beyond when those storms are coming, and that's becoming harder to do.

I think when things get busy, it's going to be harder for us to work effectively with the situation we have here.

Vivian Jorge, Administrative Officer
As far as myself in the administration, since Bill got here, is the turmoil in the administration, because in my sense, bill(sat breakup) likes controversy. And I myself have been asked to do things that I know are not procedure but have been asked to do because that's the way he wants things done, and I've worked at hurricane center since 1985.

Unfortunately I think a director needs to unite his staff and he needs to be a calming person. It doesn't need to be a no new ideas. All the directors have different ideas.. from Neil on down to Max, they were different, they were not the same, their management styles were not the same, but they united the staff, the listened to the staff, especially the folks who have been here for so many years. .. and I think in the case of bill he doesn't feel that's necessary, he always feels he knows best. And that again in our case, there's never been so many closed doors, so much intrigue at the hurricane center as now and that's really unfortunate. I can't tell you how proud I am to work here.

--End of Press Conference

QuikSCAT science
Enough of politics, let's talk science! I've communicated several times over the past few weeks with Dr. Paul Chang, a NOAA QuikSCAT scientist whose QuikSCAT web page I've linked to hundreds of times in my blogs over the past two years. He did not want to comment on the politics of the QuikSCAT issue (smart man!), but did ask me print these comments:

The need for an operational ocean surface vector wind satellite system like QuikSCAT (or actually better) goes much further than the hurricane issue, and the push for it started long before Bill Proenza became the NHC director. NHC actually wants/needs something better so that it can provide them with reliable and accurate information (intensity and structure) within all hurricanes. A few other users of QuikSCAT data include: The Department of Defense's Joint Typhoon Warning Center in Pearl Harbor, which has a much larger area to forecast for. They have no Hurricane Hunter data and much less surface and upper air data to work with, and thus use QuikSCAT winds quite a bit. This is a similar situation for NOAA's Central Pacific Hurricane Center located in Hawaii. QuikSCAT has also had significant positive impacts at the Ocean Prediction Center, which issues the high seas marine forecasts and warnings for the North Atlantic and North Pacific. This has led to the introduction of a warning category for hurricane force winds for the most dangerous extratropical cyclones. I know of at least a few private marine weather companies that routinely use QuikSCAT. The Australians, French and many others use QuikSCAT routinely for tropical storm forecast/analysis, and for marine weather in general.

The track degradation impact numbers that Bill Proenza has been stating publicly come from a limited data study for the 2003 season in the Atlantic with the GFS model only. I believe Bob Atlas did some earlier work studying the impact of QuikSCAT on Hurricane Cindy using an earlier version of the NCEP global model. Both of these studies did show promising positive impacts. They are of course limited studies, and a more in-depth study is warranted.

The GFS model hurricane track forecasts are just one piece of guidance that the NHC human forecasters use to generate the official track forecast, so the impact in a particular model guidance package does not directly translate to the same impact in the actual NHC officially issued track forecast. Additionally, QuikSCAT data are also used directly by forecasters at NHC and elsewhere, but this impact tends to be more difficult to quantify.

The aircraft are a very important hurricane operational and research tool, and no one involved in the QuikSCAT follow-on effort has ever said QuikSCAT (or its successor) should or could replace the role of the hurricane aircraft flights, just as no one has said that aircraft could replace the role of satellites. They are very complementary platforms, but they fulfill different roles.


It would be a shame if in the hubbub over Bill Proenza's push to get a replacement for the QuikSCAT satellite we lose sight of what all the scientists agree on--QuikSCAT is a vital tool in weather prediction that needs to be replaced with a better satellite. Both Dr. Atlas and Dr. Chang are working on research specifically designed to study just how much impact QuikSCAT has on landfalling hurricanes in the Atlantic, which no studies have yet quantified.

Read Margie' Kieper's View From the Surface Blog for more on the QuikSCAT/Bill Proenza matter.

Jeff Masters

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586. Patrap
11:56 AM CDT on July 07, 2007
WAVEtrak..Link
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585. FLfishyweather
4:56 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Thanks Drakeon.
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584. Drakoen
4:56 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Heh migth even get 97L if it keeps this up LMAO.
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582. Drakoen
4:55 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: FLfishyweather at 4:53 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

Ok... it seems that I came online in the middle of a hot debate. Now, [I hate to sound stupid, but...] what wave are we talking about?

Jp is talking about 94w i am talking about a wave i found in the central atlantic. with some cyclonic turning.
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581. ryang
12:54 PM AST on July 07, 2007
SAL has cleared around 10 north, that wave has to move to the south.
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580. Drakoen
4:53 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: mermaidlaw at 4:53 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

How will the Sal, and the wind shear be in a few days, around the east ATL?

wind shear should decrease within the next 36 hours according to the wunderground wind shear map. The SAL looks to be lifting to the north a bit on the water vapor loop
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579. ryang
12:53 PM AST on July 07, 2007
...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE EXTENDS FROM 18N30W TO 5N32W MOVING W 10-15 KT. ISOLATED SHOWERS ARE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE WAVE MAINLY S
OF THE ITCZ.

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578. FLfishyweather
4:51 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Ok... it seems that I came online in the middle of a hot debate. Now, [I hate to sound stupid, but...] what wave are we talking about?
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577. mermaidlaw
4:51 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
How will the Sal, and the wind shear be in a few days, around the east ATL?
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576. Drakoen
4:52 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
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575. Drakoen
4:51 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: ryang at 4:50 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

Drakoen it isn't a wave yet though...


actually it is lol.
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574. ryang
12:50 PM AST on July 07, 2007
Also north of 15 North, SSTs are low...
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573. Drakoen
4:50 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
best close up i could find
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572. louisianaguy
4:50 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Any thoughts on what the Bermuda ridge will do in July?
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570. HurricaneKing
4:49 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Td4w is close to 5n which is close to the equator.
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569. ryang
12:48 PM AST on July 07, 2007
Drakoen it isn't a wave yet though...
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567. Drakoen
4:48 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: mermaidlaw at 4:48 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

Hello Ryan, Drakoen, JP, Ike, and all.

I also noticed the large wave over Africa. Does it look like it is alittle more north than the other waves that have come off of Africa recently?


yea thats not good though it needs to move to the south if wants to live lol.
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566. FLfishyweather
4:47 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Hi everyone
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565. mermaidlaw
4:45 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Hello Ryan, Drakoen, JP, Ike, and all.

I also noticed the large wave over Africa. Does it look like it is alittle more north than the other waves that have come off of Africa recently?
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564. ryang
12:47 PM AST on July 07, 2007
JP... It look's stronger than a depression...
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563. Drakoen
4:45 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
There is some lower level convergence.
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561. Drakoen
4:43 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: ryang at 4:42 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

AlSo... A strong tropical wave is over Africa...

yea i saw that one too. Probably dissapte somewhat before exiting the African coast.
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560. ryang
12:41 PM AST on July 07, 2007
AlSo... A strong tropical wave is over Africa...
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559. Drakoen
4:39 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: jphurricane2006 at 4:38 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

lol ok

whoever guesses first what is the strange occurance with TD 04W, get a big black and white cookie


LMAO. i have no clue.
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558. Drakoen
4:38 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
just something i noticed while scanning the Atlantic basin.
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556. K8eCane
4:37 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
well so far it has not headed anywhere
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555. Drakoen
4:36 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: ryang at 4:35 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

Drak i noticed that to... And it's moving west...LOL


it might avoid high shear depending on its movement. if its slow and makes it to the Caribbean when the shear is lower we migh see something. not wishcasting...
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554. IKE
11:34 AM CDT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: K8eCane at 11:34 AM CDT on July 07, 2007.
i have been watching it and it has been there for a while
i think it is forming


If it does...it's headed out to sea....a fishie.
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553. ryang
12:33 PM AST on July 07, 2007
Drak i noticed that to... And it's moving west...LOL
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551. Drakoen
4:34 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
lol....
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550. K8eCane
4:33 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
i have been watching it and it has been there for a while
i think it is forming
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549. K8eCane
4:33 PM GMT on July 07, 2007


WHAT
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548. Drakoen
4:32 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Posted By: K8eCane at 4:28 PM GMT on July 07, 2007.

WHAT IS THE BLOB OFF THE CAROLINA COAST!!!!!!!


convection associated with a trough and an area of low pressure at the tail end.
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546. Drakoen
4:30 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
lol. I'm bored so i'll post something that i noticed.
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545. K8eCane
4:28 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
i put that in caps because all of you are ignoring me
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544. K8eCane
4:26 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
WHAT IS THE BLOB OFF THE CAROLINA COAST!!!!!!!
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543. kmanislander
4:20 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
yeah Ike. I see that. The Caribbean cannot stay this dry for long. Already there is moisture starting to fill in from the SW and also from the Yucatan channel.

Bye for now
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542. kmanislander
4:18 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Hi JP

Got on the phone for a while there.

Well not too much to talk about today so I guess I will run a few errands and check back later. C U all
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541. IKE
11:18 AM CDT on July 07, 2007
Kman and anyone else...

Notice the moisture in the western Caribbean in 132 hours on their(GFS), latest model run(12Z)....

Link

Looks like you'll be getting rain Kman.
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540. Drakoen
4:19 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
seems they are forecasting it to become a Cat 3 hurricane.
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539. Drakoen
4:16 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
What direction is this thing moving? out to sea?
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538. sporteguy03
4:16 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
We're safe though as long as no waves are out there now.
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537. Thundercloud01221991
4:16 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
Guam under Hurricane Statement

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W LOCAL STATEMENT
PMZ171-072300-
YAP-
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TIYAN GU
200 AM GUAM LST SUN JUL 8 2007

...TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W FORMS IN EASTERN YAP STATE...

...AREAS AFFECTED...
THIS STATEMENT RECOMMENDS ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY RESIDENTS OF
SATAWAL...WOLEAI AND FARAULEP.

...WATCHES AND WARNINGS...
AS OF 2 AM GUAM LST...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS NOW IN EFFECT FOR
FARAULEP...WOLEAI AND SATAWAL.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS...
INCLUDING TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS OF 39 MPH OR MORE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

...STORM INFORMATION..
AT 1 AM GUAM LST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 5.6 DEGREES NORTH AND LONGITUDE 147.6 DEGREES
EAST. THIS IS ABOUT 130 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF SATAWAL
285 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF WOLEAI
295 MILES SOUTHEAST OF FARAULEP
525 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF SOROL
565 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF FAIS
625 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF ULITHI
705 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF YAP
720 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF NGULU AND
575 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF GUAM.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W IS MOVING NORTH-NORTHWEST AT 5 MPH. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 30 MPH.

...PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS FOR SATAWAL...
RESIDENTS SHOULD CAREFULLY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF TROPICAL
DEPRESSION 04W. CHECK THE CONTENTS OF YOUR DISASTER SUPPLIES KIT.

...WIND INFORMATION...
POTENTIAL DAMAGING EAST WINDS 30 TO 40 MPH THIS MORNING.

...COASTAL INUNDATION AND SURF INFORMATION...
STORM SURGE AND COASTAL INUNDATION OF UP TO 1 FOOT ARE EXPECTED AS
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W PASSES BY. THE WORST INUNDATION WILL BE
DURING HIGH TIDE PERIODS. SURF WILL BE 8 TO 10 FEET ON ALL EXPOSURES
WITH DEADLY RIP CURRENTS.

...OTHER STORM EFFECTS...
HEAVY RAINS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES MAY PRODUCE LOCAL FLOODING THROUGH
TONIGHT.

...PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS FOR WOLEAI...
COMPLETE PREPARATIONS NOW TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. CHECK THE
CONTENTS OF YOUR DISASTER SUPPLIES KIT. SECURE LOOSE OBJECTS AROUND
YOUR PROPERTY. GATHER CONTAINERS FOR DRINKING WATER STORAGE. MOVE
SMALL BOATS TO SAFE HAVEN.

...WIND INFORMATION...
DAMAGING WINDS 40 TO 50 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 60 MPH WILL BEGIN LATE
TONIGHT AND LAST THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON.

...COASTAL INUNDATION AND SURF INFORMATION...
STORM SURGE AND COASTAL INUNDATION OF 1 TO 2 FEET ARE EXPECTED AS
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 04W PASSES BY. THE WORST INUNDATION WILL BE
DURING HIGH TIDES. SURF WILL BE 10 TO 12 FEET ON ALL EXPOSURES WITH
DEADLY RIP CURRENTS.

...OTHER STORM EFFECTS...
HEAVY RAINS OF 4 TO 6 INCHES MAY PRODUCE LOCAL FLOODING TONIGHT AND
MONDAY.

...PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS FOR FARAULEP...
RESIDENTS SHOULD CAREFULLY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF TROPICAL
DEPRESSION 04W. CHECK THE CONTENTS OF YOUR DISASTER SUPPLIES KIT.
MOVE SMALL BOATS TO SAFE HAVEN.

...WIND INFORMATION...
POTENTIAL DAMAGING WINDS 30 TO 40 MPH LATER THIS MORNING.

...COASTAL INUNDATION AND SURF INFORMATION...
COASTAL INUNDATION OF UP TO 1 FOOT POSSIBLE AS TROPICAL DEPRESSION
04W PASSES BY. SURF WILL BE 8 TO 10 FEET ON ALL EXPOSURES WITH
DEADLY RIP CURRENTS.

...OTHER STORM EFFECTS...
POTENTIAL HEAVY RAINS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES MAY PRODUCE LOCAL FLOODING
LATE TONIGHT AND FRIDAY.

...NEXT UPDATE...
THE NEXT LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED AT 9 AM GUAM LST. CLOSELY
MONITOR LOCAL MEDIA OR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE LATEST
INFORMATION FROM WEATHER AND EMERGENCY OFFICIALS.

$$
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536. Drakoen
4:14 PM GMT on July 07, 2007
if you guys notice the upper level winds are relaxing in the northern Caribbean and seems to be pushing south. The NOGAPS shear forecast show lowering shear within the next 72 hours.
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