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A mid-Atlantic tropical wave worth watching; more on this year's steering currents
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:19 PM GMT on July 03, 2007 +2
A tropical wave in the mid-Atlantic, near 9N 38W, has grown more organized since yesterday. This system has been labeled "96L" by the NHC. The wave has a small closed circulation, as seen on both visible satellite loops and this morning's 4:28am EDT QuikSCAT pass. Winds from QuikSCAT were as high as 35 mph. Wind shear is about 10 knots, and is forecast to fluctuate between 10 and 20 knots in the region over the next two days. This is low enough wind shear to allow some slow development. Sea surface temperatures are 27-28 C, which is above the 26 C minimum temperature tropical storms typically need to form. There is one cluster of strong thunderstorms near the center of circulation, but dry air to the north appears to be limiting the thunderstorm activity. The Saharan Air Layer (SAL) lies just 50-100 miles north of the storm's center of circulation, as seen in water vapor satellite loops. The GFS model does indicate a tropical depression might form here, but does not have a very good handle on it, since it is showing far too slow of a forward speed. Our other three reliable models, the NOGAPS, UKMET, and ECMWF, do not develop the system. Climatologically, formation of a tropical depression in this region of the Atlantic this time of year is quite rare. Given this fact, plus the presence of so much dry air near a relatively small circulation, I am not expecting this to become a tropical depression. Movement of 96L will be just north of due west over the next few days at 15 mph, as seen in the model forecast plots (Figure 1).


Figure 1. Computer model forecast tracks for 96L.

More on steering currents for this hurricane season
Yesterday, I posted my bi-monthly hurricane outlook, for the first half of July. Since it was getting a bit long, I presented only a short steering current analysis. More follows here. There are several ways to look at steering currents. I presented the position of the surface high pressure system known as the Bermuda High (or Bermuda-Azores High). Another way is to study how close to the surface a pressure of 500 millibars (mb) is found. When there is low pressure aloft, due to a trough of low pressure, the height at which a pressure of 500 millibars is found moves closer to the surface. If one plots up the "500 mb height anomaly"--the difference of where a pressure of 500 mb is found above the surface, compared to the average height from a climatology of the past 30 years--one gets a good measure of where above or below average storminess occurred. Higher than average 500 mb heights imply less storminess and possible drought conditions. The 500 mb height anomaly plot for June 2007 (Figure 2) shows higher than average heights across the southwestern U.S., where drought and high temperatures were observed in June. Lower than average 500 mb heights imply an above normal preponderance of troughs of low pressure and thus storminess. This was the case over Texas and Oklahoma in June. If these troughs are over the Atlantic, they act to recurve hurricanes out to sea at the longitude they are at. This only occurs if a hurricane penetrates far enough north to "see" the southernmost part of the trough of low pressure. Typically, this happens northward of about 20 degrees north latitude. Figure 2 shows lower than average 500 mb heights occurred over most of the Atlantic, meaning there were many more troughs of low pressure than usual. Had any hurricanes occurred over the Atlantic north of about 20 degrees north latitude, they would have gotten caught up in one of the troughs and recurved out to sea. The latest 2-week forecast from the GFS model shows a continuation of this above average frequency and intensity of troughs of low pressure over the Atlantic--much like we saw in 2006. Thus, we can expect any tropical cyclones that penetrate north of about 20 degrees north latitude to get recurved. This will very likely be the case for 96L, if it ever becomes a tropical storm.


Figure 2. Difference in height (in decameters, or tens of meters) from average of the 500 millibar height above the surface for June 2007. Image credit: NOAA/ESRL.

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1601. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 4:41 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
1600 comments wow good day for blog
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1603. BahaHurican 4:44 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
The NHC mission is to save lives, mitigate property loss, and improve economic efficiency by issuing the best watches, warnings, forecasts and analyses of hazardous tropical weather, and by increasing understanding of these hazards. The NHC vision is to be America's calm, clear and trusted voice in the eye of the storm and, with its partners, enable communities to be safe from tropical weather threats.

Found this at the NHC website.

Do you think NOAA is gonna call Proenza out because he does not project the "calm, clear and trusted voice in the eye of the storm" type image?
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1604. KoritheMan 4:45 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Hey guys, I have something to say about 96L.

It is most certainly in a weakening phase. If that lasts or doesn't last, remains to be seen.

The main thing I wanted to say is according to Wikipedia, the wave that spawned Hurricane Bret in 1999, which was a 145 mph Category 4 hurricane at its peak, was barely discernable at times, yet it still developed. This wave is barely discernable as just a swirl with a few thunderstorms.

Just keep watching. If it develops it develops, if not, it doesn't. August and September is when the real action'll start anyway.
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1605. weatherblog 4:48 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
thank you, jp
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1606. Cirrusboy 4:50 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
I wouldn't want to see a storm in the caribbean in favorable atmospheric conditions. check out the heat potential especially under and around cuba leading into the Gulf of Mexico.
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1609. flibinite 4:58 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Thanks, moonlightcowboy, Bamatracker, Littleninjagrl, cjnew, BahaHurican, and StormThug. I just wanted you to know I read what you said and that I appreciate it, very much. But this seems to be a very technical blog, without a ton of non-meteorological interaction, that only concentrates on the minutiae of tropical development and impact, and that doesn't want to speak to the bigger picture of the changes in global dynamics that 2004 and 2005 portended.

I was going to predict that 96L would have a name by tomorrow's 11 PM update, as I think it still might, but I didn't want to be accused of wishcasting. I still say that, somehow, if it does, or gets TS status shortly thereafter, that it's a strong indicator of the season to come, along with the surprise of Barry, who somehow "created" itself in the face of strong shear and "no-no" forecasting, even by some of the more erudite members of this blog.

I honestly do believe that, and I thank you for taking the time to let me know that you read what I said, however correct or foolish it might have been. :-)

Jo
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1610. weatherblog 5:01 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Agree KoritheMan
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1612. PowerOuttage4u 5:02 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
I Agree.
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1614. Cirrusboy 5:03 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Looking at the latest shear maps, it appears 96L is heading into a more favorable environment. However the dry air will in my opinion keep development if any slow for the next couple of days.

goodnight
1616. weatherblog 5:07 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
flibinite, anyobody's welcome to this blog. As we all have in interest in weather. Some people are here to learn and others are here to share there experienced knowledge.

There is no such thing as "wishcasting"; it is banned from this blog. lol

So, anyways, welcome to this blog, as I am looking foward to seeing you here. :)
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1617. bigtrucker 5:11 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
due to the position of azores high, and the troughs in the Atlantic, I would say at this time that 96L will make it close to the lesser antilles and move harmlessly to the north.
copy and paste this comment and when it happens you can call me a hurricane expert.LOL

love all the links you guys post and the discussions are much better this than years passed. great job, guys
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1618. bluehaze27 5:15 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Hello all, I gather most have seen this video by now but I thought I'd post it 'cause it's still pretty awesome video.


http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=f91ef032-b8cc-446f-96b1-b04e4bd96ba1&f=00&fg=copy
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1619. moonlightcowboy 5:17 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Flibinite, a purveyor of words(lol), AGAIN, welcome! It's refreshing to see a wordsmith and intelligence used congruently! Your post was thoughtful and well-stated.

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1621. MississippiWx 5:18 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Hey guys,

I'm not familiar with UTC time, so I looked it up. What I got was if the UTC time is 04:15, like the current floater is on 96L and add six hours to it, that's the time the image was taken. So, since I live in the central time zone, that would make the most recent satellite imagery 10:15 p.m/11:15 p.m. eastern. In other words, that makes the imagery two hours old.
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1623. flibinite 5:20 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Or was that JP and Draekon (misspelled)? Sometimes it all runs together... :-)

Thanks weatherblog and again, moonlightcowboy.
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1626. stormybil 5:23 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
looks like the life supports helped out 96l is making a comeback at 130. am est am i seeing some reds now in the center stay tuned !
1628. MississippiWx 5:24 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Anyone know if what I said is right? Is the satellite loop really over 2 hours old?
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1629. sullivanweather 5:25 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
There's lots of stratocumulus just to 96L's north, not to mention the overwhelmingly dry air. If this system has any dreams of developing it's going to have to stay south of 12.5ºN until at least 50ºW.

This system is going to have trouble maintaining persistant convection, which should delay the attainment of depression status. The mid-level circulation looks good and convection has been flaring in the southern semi-circle.

This is the second invest already in the central/eastern Atlantic. I'm still seeing a situation similar to 1995, with perhaps a few less storms but more close calls for the East Coast.
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1630. weatherblog 5:26 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Convection seems limited on 96L...don't see any changes either. Anybody see something I dont? becasue the way it's looking it could easily dissipate tomorrow...or it could strenghthen.

Let's see how it is in the a.m...

Scenario 1:if there's more convection bursts (heavy) by the morning then a TD or TS is possbile in 24-48 hours...but nothing too significant.

Scenario 2:if it's looking the same it is now then maybe some slow development to a TD if it could escape from the dust and some shear...otherwise dissipation looks reasonable.

Scenario 3:if it is only a naked swirl by morning then dissipation has took place and any re-strenghthining would be very slow indeed...but most likely scenario is further dissipation...though the remenants could go in the caribbean and re-organize, something to watch, but probably not

Out of all the scenario's, scenario 2 seems most reasonable...we'll see in the morning.
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1633. bluehaze27 5:28 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Ya'll are familiar with the Hebert box, right? A moderate bermuda high would allow storms to head north of Puerto Rico and the deadly Hispaniola, through the Hebert box and into Florida. I live in Homestead and we are way overdue. I'm thinking this year is gonna be like 1947 where we were hit twice, a cat 1 and a cat 3. Of course it all depends on the troughs. The little storms keep the big storm away.
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1634. stormybil 5:30 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
thats what i was looking for thanks bluehaz the herbert box . is this going in that direction
1636. flibinite 5:31 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
No, no, JP, I understand that, and is why I said what I did. This time you're on one side, and others are on the, um... other. The next time you're on the other side, and they're on the other... or with you on yours. I know it's an inexact science, at best, and I was just saying that I never want either side to "cease and desist" their arguments, because it's from that interplay that the less knowledgeable of us can see both sides of the development/demise equation.

In my heart, though, I still think that somehow 96L will see it through, become something stronger, and that we'll *really* be talking about it a week from now. But please do know that I hope I'm way more than wrong, as no one needs any more funky weather.

Jo
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1637. MississippiWx 5:31 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Ahhh I see jp..you SUBTRACT 5 hours from CDT and 4 from EDT.
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1638. mahep1911 5:33 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Awww yes the Hebert box.. You know if the storm goes thru that box then florida is going to get hit. the odds are so unreal but yet so true
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1639. MississippiWx 5:34 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Still don't understand why convection isn't firing over the center. Only thing I can figure is that there is decent shear from the north.
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1641. bluehaze27 5:36 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
The latest model runs do but it's so early in the runs (even though they are very uniform) and the system may yet disintegrate. Keep an eye on future storms. If they head just north of Puerto Rico and into the Turks and Caicos then there is a very good chance of a Florida hit unless a trough pushes down and weakens the high.
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1642. kylejourdan2006 5:36 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
So it's a cyclone now right? There's a tropical cyclone formation alert on the NRL website.
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1644. weatherblog 5:39 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Posted By: kylejourdan2006 at 5:36 AM GMT on July 04, 2007.

So it's a cyclone now right? There's a tropical cyclone formation alert on the NRL website.


if your talking about 96L...it is still an ivest. no TD or TS that I know of...or anybody frankly.
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1645. EdMahmoud 5:39 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
New Canadian says it makes it to Trinidad and Tobago, but dies in the Central Caribbean.
1647. MississippiWx 5:42 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
Well, jp, the only thing that keeps me from believing what you are saying is that convection was actually over the center earlier, but it looks like it got pushed south. Dry air isn't helping matters, so I think it could be a combination of both.
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1648. stormybil 5:44 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    
New Canadian says it makes it to Trinidad and Tobago, but dies in the Central Caribbean.

that model looks like a 3 ring circus
1649. EdMahmoud 5:44 AM GMT on July 04, 2007    

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