Weather radios now required for Indiana mobile homes

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:36 PM GMT on April 27, 2007

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Mobile homes sold in the state of Indiana after June 30 this year must come equipped with a weather radio capable of alerting residents of an approaching tornado, thanks to a law signed by Indiana governor Mitch Daniels this week. The legislation, dubbed "C.J.'s Law", was named after 2-year old C.J. Martin, who died in a F3 tornado that killed 25 people in southwestern Indiana on November 6, 2005. Twenty of the victims lived in the Eastbrook Mobile Home Park in Evansville. The storm hit at 2am, when many residents were asleep and didn't hear the tornado sirens. C.J.'s mother, Kathryn Martin, pushed lawmakers to adopt the bill, pointing out that weather radios with a tone alert system could have saved many lives in the mobile home park.

This type of law makes great sense for mobile homes sold in tornado alley--think of it as a companion to your smoke detector in the house. Mobile home residents make up just 7% of the U.S. population, but account for 40% of the deaths in tornadoes. However, there are a number of issues that may make the law ineffective. Firstly, what type of weather radio will be purchased? There are many poor quality units out there, prone to radio interference, and difficult to program (weather radios require the user to input a special SAME code, needed to issue tone alerts when a tornado warning is issued). Secondly, the NWS sends out weekly or monthly test alerts on weather radio--how many mobile home owners will simply turn off their weather radios because they are sick of hearing the regular tests? Or turn them off after a few false alarms wake them up in the middle of the night for tornadoes that appear on Doppler radar, but never touch down? Thirdly, once the residents of a mobile home park are awakened by an alert, where do they go? Indiana, like most states, has no law requiring mobile home parks to have a tornado shelter. However, there is now Federal money available for mobile home parks to construct tornado shelters, so the number of parks with shelters may increase in coming years. In summary, the law has the potential to save lives--but only if it is properly enacted.


Figure 1. Damage to C.J. Martin's mobile home park near Evansville, Indiana due to the November 6, 2005 tornado. Image credit: Paducah, KY NWS.

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317. Levi32
2:45 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
Morning guys :)

That blob is convection generated by a surface trough in the area. There is NO surface circulation if you look on the visible loop.

Posted By: StoryOfTheCane at 2:58 AM AKDT on April 30, 2007.
these troughs are barely phasing the High, definitely not going to have a repeat of last year.


SOTC if you don't mind I need to clear something up. That surface map you have there shows nothing that we want to know. If you're looking for troughs and ridges that will steer hurricanes this year, look at the upper air maps, not the surface. That high that you guys are saying extends all the way across the Atlantic doesn't matter at all because it's the high in the upper atmosphere that matters.

Here's a link to a northern hemisphere 500mb map if you want to see it. Link

Anyway, if you want to find troughs and ridges that will affect hurricanes look either on a map like the one I gave you or the initial images of model runs. The surface map tells us nothing.
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316. thelmores
2:43 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
got the image here.....

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/

love those interactive views! :)
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315. chessrascal
2:03 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
lol

notice that low over Texas and the blob off of honduras
314. chessrascal
1:56 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
Thelmores where did u get that zoomed in imagery
313. thelmores
12:54 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
morning all! :)

looks like a mini-blob off of Honduras/ Nicaragua........

maybe an old frontal boundary?



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312. Patrap
12:28 PM GMT on April 30, 2007
U.S. didn't use most foreign Katrina aid
Posted by Washington bureau April 29, 2007 4:38PM


Unable to deal with an unexpected outpouring of post-Katrina assistance, Washington did not accept most donations from other governments. ...

By Bruce Alpert
Washington bureau

WASHINGTON -- Only a small fraction of the more than $800 million in Hurricane Katrina assistance offered by foreign governments was used by federal agencies, according to documents released Sunday by a private watchdog group.

Rejected were the offers of foreign governments to send medical teams, search-and-rescue units, body bags, bottled water, food, fuel and even offers of specially trained rescue dogs from Poland, according to documents obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Also turned down or stalled by bureaucratic delays were offers of two cruise ships by the Greek government for use as medical facilities and to house workers and displaced residents.

The United States didn't have a system to process so many simultaneous offers of assistance, and if another disaster of the scale of Katrina occurred, it still would be unable to accept most aid, said Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director.

"I'm afraid the same thing would happen again," Sloan said in an interview Sunday in which she called for congressional investigations. "It's been nearly two years since Katrina, and still the government doesn't have a mechanism in place to deal with offers of foreign assistance."

The foreign aid snafu was first reported Sunday in The Washington Post. The Post said that the United States turned down 54 of the 77 offers from three of its biggest allies, Canada, England and Israel. CREW obtained the documents under the Freedom of Information Act

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that the United States "frankly is not accustomed to receiving large-scale foreign assistance offers." But she said many of the offers of help, especially money, ended up going to private charities, such as the American Red Cross and the fund managed by former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

In the end, Rice told ABC News, the United States used a lot of the assistance, including some from the poorest nations in the world.

Much of the problem, according to the documents, rested with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which was already overwhelmed trying to coordinate the U.S response to Katrina and couldn't decide what offers of foreign aid to accept and reject.

"It is getting downright embarrassing here not to have a response to the Estonians on food relief -- everyone at FEMA is swamped, but at this point even a 'thanks but no thanks' is better than deafening silence," one State Department e-mail writer said.

Given the desperation of thousands of New Orleans residents waiting on rooftops to be rescued, Sloan said it's hard to understand why the United States wouldn't have accepted more of the offers from countries ready to dispatch search-and-rescue teams to the Gulf Coast, or the offer of cruise ships from Greece to house displaced residents and rescue workers.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., chair of the Disaster Recovery Subcommittee, promised to ask hard questions of administration officials about the foreign aid problems.

"Louisiana and the Gulf Coast deserve better," Landrieu said. "And while we did not seek handouts, a hand up was and remains sorely needed." She promised to "get to the bottom of how this administration could so foolishly turn away an outreached hand in a time of such desperate need."

In some cases, particularly for medical workers and search-and-rescue teams, government officials raised liability concerns about the foreign volunteers.

Concerning the cruise ships, some U.S. officials, according to the released State Department memos, had concerns about the boats' sprinkler systems and whether they could arrive soon enough to be helpful. Ultimately, the government turned down the Greek offer, and contracted with Carnival Cruise Lines to provide two large ships at a cost of about $249 million.

In all, the U.S. government says it has committed about $125 billion to emergency response and recovery efforts for Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

"Given the situation we were facing with so many people in need, you would have thought that the government could have worked around some of the concerns raised by the agencies," Sloan said. "Even if we decided that we needed ships sooner to handle the emergency workers, we still had a lot of homeless people who could have stayed on the cruise ships offered by the Greek government."

FEMA and other government agencies were worried about huge bottlenecks if specific plans hadn't been made to distribute donated materials.

"There is the potential for an unmanageable logistical back-up to occur at the US Air Base at Little Rock, where foreign hurricane assistance will most likely be directed," a State Department memo said.

"If a foreign flight arrives with assistance relief, but that assistance has not been approved, bottle-necks can quickly occur as Little Rock has limited storage."

Even with so much aid being rejected, some of the materials that did get through weren't properly handled. The State Department released several e-mails in which officials discussed what to do about medical supplies, including gauze from Italy that was left unusable after being "exposed to the elements."

"I think we need to come clean with the Italians, tell them we blew it, deeply appreciate and regret handling of this and let them know about disposal," a State Department official wrote a colleague in October 2005. "The flip side is just to dispose of it and not come clean. I'm willing to be persuaded. Thoughts?"

According to the State Department, most foreign nations understood the problems the United States had in processing so many donations. Still, the United Kingdom was critical of delays in acceptance and the relaying of logistics information, CREW said.

Bruce Alpert can be reached at bruce.alpert@newhouse.com or (202) 383-7861.
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311. Thundercloud01221991
11:02 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Come see my blog
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310. StoryOfTheCane
10:58 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
these troughs are barely phasing the High, definitely not going to have a repeat of last year.

309. StoryOfTheCane
10:45 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
might be seeing the first Pacific storm soon.



308. V26R
7:33 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Amazing amounts of Lightning for this time of night

Link
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307. Barefootontherocks
7:02 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Let's hope they've all got weather radios.
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305. V26R
5:24 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Morning Taz, isn't that the infamous eddie that spawned something that creamed FLA not too long ago?
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304. Tazmanian
5:18 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
dont look

lol
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303. V26R
4:55 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Sure wish the Mexicans would put up some radar sites in that area to watch for the big boomers that form down that way
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302. V26R
4:49 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
444 the wind shear over that part of the Atlantic is still way too high for anything to form that comes off thr African coast right now
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301. V26R
4:48 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
There was a TVS associated with the F0
marking
also saw it from another site, just didn't post the other site
That TVS associated with the F0 marking has disappated abit
Mike
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299. louisianaboy444
4:13 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
If one of these strong impulses comes off the African coast pretty strongly there is a pocket of nice hot water right off the african coast do you think maybe...just maybe...if one of these storms hits that hot pocket of water that something could go down
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298. louisianaboy444
4:11 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
is it just me or all these factors such as impulses coming off the african coast and sst are unusually heightened for this time of year?
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297. louisianaboy444
4:08 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
texas is getting it but i dont think we going to get it here in South Louisiana looks like that weathermaker is weakening before arriving here
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296. V26R
4:05 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Del Rio now showing a F0 Tornado on the ground
just North of Eagle Pass, Tx

Link
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295. V26R
4:03 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Looka Like Eagle Pass, Texas has gotten Mother Nature Mad again

Link
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294. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:56 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
something wicked this way comes tornadic event high risk poss f3 for sou central and nor central texas radar showing some good sign at this time
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293. hurricanecrab
3:29 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Hey Kman.... you watching already? SSTs off the Rock are 86+ already. Hi all
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292. jake436
3:27 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Take a look at the radar out of Del Rio, TX. Eagle Pass is in the crosshairs yet again...pray for them.

Link
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291. V26R
3:06 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Question for the crew who may be familiar with Covents and deed restrictions,
What happens if those trialer parks are on the fringe areas of the WX service radio coverage
and require an outdoor antenna, and that same
Trailer Park has these restrictions on outdoor antennas, Has the Indianna State Legislators thought this into this new law? Anyone Know?
Mike
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290. TheCaneWhisperer
2:30 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Evening SJ! SFL is supposed to be kicking into our summer pattern this week, according to the locals. If it lasts, it would be early! Usually we don't see this until the 2nd week of may or early June!
289. StormJunkie
2:25 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Evening TCW. Good point about June/July storms
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288. TheCaneWhisperer
2:24 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Posted By: hurricane23 at 6:27 PM EDT on April 29, 2007.
Quite times may continue till mid july if the current trend continues.One main reason iam looking at is the strong tutt that is located over the central and eastern atlantic currently.Also i would like to add there is currently 40-50kt shear across most of eastern atalntic from the african coast to parts of the caribbean.I think the main factor here that might hold off any early development will be the tutt being well established as it is.Things can change but the way i see it things we might be shapeing up for a slow start.Adrian

Also quick note i dont see any progress towards La nina from looking at the sub-surface.Iam not 100% sold on any nina taking shape this summer.


I agree with the shear and a July(More Normal) start, although, most pre-season or early season storms form in the West Caribbian and Gulf of Mexico! CATL and East Atlantic won't come into play until late July or Early August!
287. StormJunkie
2:23 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
What's up BT, good to see ya!
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286. HurricaneRoman
2:19 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
wow that is impressive ..... well im off goodnight
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285. kmanislander
2:12 AM GMT on April 30, 2007


Very impressive for so early in the year
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284. TheCaneWhisperer
1:58 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Posted By: Dakster at 3:31 PM EDT on April 29, 2007.
Ligthning10,

From your lips to god's ears on the slow season. Although, a "slow" season where I get hit with one hurricane, is still a bad year for me.

I see that as proenza states, we are learning, since Hurricane preparedness week is a little earlier now in May instead of June. I remember the hurricane preparedness fair in 2005. The first storm was threatening before the fair...

About South Florida, no rain in sight, drought, fires, and water restrictions... Blame the SFWMD (South Florida Water Management District). Apparently they decided last year to release billions of gallons of water out of Lake Okeechobe becuase it was supposed to be an acive season and they worried about flooding. I know hindsight is 20/20, but they did this in 2000/2001 the last round of water restrictions. The same forecast, the same thing happened. Granted, this is better than the Dikes failing along the Lake, but you'd hope they wouldn't drop the Lake like in 2000. I won't second guess the experts, but someone has to come up with a better way to do this. Instead of dike failure, we may lose our potable water supply which could be just as devastating as the Dike failures. Today's Miami Herald had a nice article about it.

So if the Hurricane Gods are listening, NO HURRICANES, but feel free to send a bunch of rain our way.



Hindsight is 20/20 Dak! Personally, I think they made the right move! Ernesto, a weak little storm that passed over us, directly over Lake O. Had Ernesto not stayed over Cuba so long, it would have been a much more powerful storm, as forcast. Had Ernesto been a more formidable Hurricane, and lake levels were left where they were, it would have devastated the area and our water supply. Alot of people were very wrong about last year! In the situation, I think the SFWMD made the right move!
283. Bamatracker
1:17 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
evening everyone!
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282. StormJunkie
1:16 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Welcome aboard rts
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281. Hellsniper223
1:12 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Please... No global warming debates... They're all the same.
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280. kmanislander
12:12 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
Hi Storms

Kinda quiet now on the blog. I guess the posters have exhausted all the pre season topics like global warmimg LOL
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279. ridesthestorms
12:06 AM GMT on April 30, 2007
hello everyone
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278. Patrap
10:53 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
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277. StormJunkie
10:48 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Evening All!

How's it going cowboy, been awhile!
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276. kmanislander
10:44 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
gotta run for a bit

bbl
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275. kmanislander
10:42 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
moonlightcowboy

here is a good explanation of TUTT

Link
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274. kmanislander
10:39 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
You're welcome
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273. moonlightcowboy
10:38 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Thanks, kman!!!
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272. kmanislander
10:37 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Tropical Upper Tropospheric trough ( TUTT )
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271. kmanislander
10:35 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Stormpetrol

Small world, I also live in South Sound !
I agree the wind pattern this year has been very strange. Mostly out of the NE around 20 mph or more for about 4 months. Recently, they switched to S or SE bringing very hot and extremely dry conditions. Low tide in South Sound is not unusual this time of year though

What I am paying attention to is how the high pressure ridge sets up in the Atlantic once the season starts and shear levels. This week the high looked exactly like 2004 Sept when we got Ivan, stretching all the way across the ATL. However it is too soon IMO to draw any firm conclusions.


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270. moonlightcowboy
10:35 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
...I've been on here a few times, and until today, haven't seen the word "tutt" before...wasn't he an Egyptian king? WTH is a tutt? (please, and thanks!)
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269. Dakster
10:28 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Why did the type go to Red all of a sudden?

Lousianaboy,

Part of it is "wishcasting", part of it is that everone is looking at environmental conditions and seeing waves that could normally develop if conditions were more favorable. Part of it is anxiety since we are getting close to the official start of hurricane season.

I'm not putting anyone down, it is the people that have the excitement and entusiasm for these storms that make this blog interesting to read. (I read it all year long). It keeps the NHC and meteologists in check. I enjoy the technical discussions here, which are better than any newscast I've ever seen. Dr. masters has a lot to do with it, since he has a lot of first hand experience.

BTW, historically storms have formed out the "season" months of June - November. So it wouldn't be a record if a TS formed in May..
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268. hurricane23
10:27 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
Quite times may continue till mid july if the current trend continues.One main reason iam looking at is the strong tutt that is located over the central and eastern atlantic currently.Also i would like to add there is currently 40-50kt shear across most of eastern atalntic from the african coast to parts of the caribbean.I think the main factor here that might hold off any early development will be the tutt being well established as it is.Things can change but the way i see it things we might be shapeing up for a slow start.Adrian

Also quick note i dont see any progress towards La nina from looking at the sub-surface.Iam not 100% sold on any nina taking shape this summer.
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267. hurricane23
10:26 PM GMT on April 29, 2007
No hint of any kind of circulation especially at the surface.Maybe possible in the next 4-5 weeks.
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