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Thingamabobbercane forms off the coast of Oregon
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:54 PM GMT on November 02, 2006 +5
An unusual storm with the satellite appearance of a hurricane formed 900 miles off the coast of Oregon yesterday. The storm is a hybrid between a warm-cored tropical cyclone, cold-cored extratropical cyclone, and an uncommon type of winter storm called a Polar Low. Since we're not really sure how to classify this odd beast, I'll call it "Thingamabobbercane". Thingamabobbercane is being called 91C at the Navy web site.


Figure 1. Thingamabobbercane forms 900 miles west of the Oregon coast, November 1, 2006.

Thingamabobbercane formed from a cold-cored extratropical storm that spent two days drifting over relatively warm waters of about 59-61F (15-16C). These temperatures were warm enough to warm the core of the storm and generate a cloud-free "eye" and an "eyewall" of intense thunderstorms surrounding the eye. The spiral bands of showers and eye/eyewall appearance look very similar to Hurricane Epsilon of 2005, which formed over waters of 75-77 F (22-23C). If Thingamabobbercane had been in the Atlantic, it would likely have been given a name and called a subtropical cyclone. The Central Pacific Hurricane Center in Honolulu isn't even mentioning it in their Tropical Weather Outlook, so Thingamabobbercane is not going to get a name. Hybrid storms of this nature are rare in the Central Pacific, and we really don't know what to do with them. It's worth noting that SSTs in the northeast Pacific are a substantial 2 C above normal; normally ocean temperatures are too cold to get hybrid subtropical storms off the coast of Oregon.

A QuikSCAT satellite pass from last night (Figure 2) shows wind speeds as high as 50 knots (57 mph) to the south of the circulation center of Thingamabobbercane. Cloud top temperatures in the "eyewall" were between -42 and -53 C, which correspond to heights of 35,000 to 40,000 feet. Satellite imagery from this morning shows that Thingamabobbercane has weakened, and resembles a donut with the bottom half missing. Wind shear, which was 15 knots yesterday, has increased to 25 knots over the storm, and is likely responsible for the weakening. Thingamabobbercane is expected to gradually weaken as it drifts northeastward over the next two days. The storm will make the transition to a regular extratropical cyclone by Saturday, and affect British Columbia with gale-force winds early next week.


Figure 2. QuikSCAT winds from 04 UTC November 2, 2006, show wind speeds as high as 50 knots (57 mph) to the south of the circulation center of Thingamabobbercane.

Thingamabobbercane is over much cooler waters than some of the late-season tropical storms of 2005--such as Vince and Epsilon--that looked similar. A drifting buoy 46637 100 miles to the north of the center is reporting SSTs of 58F (14.5C), and drifting buoy 46532 about 150 miles to the west is reporting SSTs of 62F (16.5C). Thingamabobbercane resembles the January 1995 weirdo storm that formed in the Mediterranean Sea. This unusual storm also looked like a hurricane, and formed over waters of similar temperature, 61F. Another odd hybrid storm like Thingamabobbercane formed over Lake Huron on September 14, 1996. Hurricane Huron started as a cold-cored low pressure system, then gradually acquired a warm core as it drifted over the relatively warm waters (64F, 18C) of Lake Huron. Hurricane Huron developed a cloud-free eye and spiral bands of showers and thunderstorms which brought up to four inches of rain and flooding problems to portions of Ontario and Michigan. It is the only recorded warm-core hybrid cyclone to affect the Great Lakes.


Figure 3. "Hurricane Huron" over Lake Huron closely resembles our Thingamabobbercane. Image credit: Dr. Todd Miner, Penn State University. Dr. Miner has authored an interesting techincal paper on Hurricane Huron.

For more on Thingamabobbercane
The University of Wisconsin CIMSS web site has an interesting blog with both visible and infrared Quicktime animations of the storm.

The Atlantic
An area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean is associated with a tropical disturbance (93L). This disturbance has gotten less organized since yesterday, and is not expected to become a tropical depression. It will continue to bring heavy rains to Belize, the Yucatan, and Honduras over the next two days. More than two inches of rain has fallen in Cancun, Cozumel, and Belize City in the past 24 hours.


Figure 1. Preliminary model tracks for 93L in the Caribbean.

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301. CybrTeddy 5:20 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
hmm T.1 now on 93L
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302. LowerCal 5:33 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Posted By: Skyepony at 7:31 PM PST on November 02, 2006.
02/2345 UTC 16.8N 87.6W T1.0/1.5 93L -- Atlantic Ocean
02/1745 UTC 17.1N 87.6W T1.5/1.5 93L -- Atlantic Ocean


Twins again?
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303. Skyepony (Mod) 5:49 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Same storm, different passes. That was the 1st time in more than a day that it wasn't too weak to get a T#.
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304. LowerCal 5:53 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Never mind. :[ Just moving south. Not "DRIFTING WEST"?
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305. LowerCal 5:56 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Thanks Skye. Hope the wind isn't rattling your house to hard.

Have you looked at any models re. the East Pac this evening?
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306. Skyepony (Mod) 6:00 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Wind hasn't arrived yet, got the garden ready today. Thing grew good with the rain.

I did go back & look at the 18Z gfs, see it has come into line with most the others.
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307. Skyepony (Mod) 6:06 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Most the 00Z runs are out, still looks on.

Somehow I had missed the 18Z gfdl run on 93L earlier.

off to zzzzz
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308. LowerCal 6:13 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Garden grew, garden ready, sounds good.

And the LBAR still likes you. :)

I may not be back 'til much later. If I don't see you good night Skye.
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309. stormy3 6:59 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
NASA's Earth Observatory has a report on 91C. They agree that it is outside the norman hurricane areas and therefore unable to name. They do go on to try and explain how this "subtropical" storm forms.
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310. stormy3 7:01 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Hurricane23 if your on here they do list a way to download this storm to your google earth site.
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311. mellotrongirl 10:18 AM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Thingamabobercane has looked quite impressive for a couple days now on Portland TV satellite images during wether segments on the news...it's kicking in some mild temps. and plenty of precip underneath as the "pineapple express" streams in from the SW. Nice warm temps after a string of sunny cold days although the winds have kicked up a lot of leaves (after I just raked them up) and the rains have become moderate.
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313. kmanislander 12:43 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
good morning all

93L has moved to the SSW overnight and is now practically ashore in S Belize. Any furhter drift to the W will take it inland
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314. Patrap 1:06 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Trouble comes to the Gulf Coast,late next week.Will have to keep close eyes on this situ late next week..Link
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315. Patrap 1:08 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
Lake effect snow plumes..N Michigan...Link
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316. thelmores 1:09 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
agreed k-man...... 93L looks on the coast now......

hope everybody has a good weekend! :)
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317. Patrap 1:34 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
hopefully the latest cold front will help kill these things off here...Link
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318. Skyepony (Mod) 1:59 PM GMT on November 03, 2006    
03/1145 UTC 16.7N 88.0W T1.5/1.5 93L
03/0545 UTC 16.7N 87.6W T1.5/1.5 93L
02/2345 UTC 16.8N 87.6W T1.0/1.5 93L
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