Boldest Presidental Action Ever Taken to Combat Climate Change: EPA's New Regulations

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:13 PM GMT on June 02, 2014

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President Obama's administration unveiled on Monday the "Clean Power Plan", a 645-page proposal to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from existing U.S. power plants under the 1970 Clean Air Act. The proposed regulations would reduce carbon dioxide emissions from these plants by 25% by 2020, compared to 2005 levels, and by 30% by 2030. The new regulations would hit the nation's 491 coal-fired power plants the most, since these plants account for 74% of the electric sector's carbon dioxide emissions, according to the Energy Information Administration. Coal burning supplies 37% of the nation's electric power, just behind natural gas.


Figure 1. On a hot day at Georgetown University, President Barack Obama removes his jacket before speaking about climate change on Tuesday, June 25, 2013. AP Photo.

The EPA plans to finalize the regulations by June 30, 2015, and states would have until June 2016 to submit their plans to the agency. Any American can comment on the proposed regulations here. The proposed regulations have already come under heavy fire from lawmakers in coal-producing states like West Virginia and Kentucky, and from industry-funded lobbying groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who warn of large job losses and economic costs. But in EPA administrator Gina McCarthy's June 2 speech, she touted that "the first year that these standards go into effect, we’ll avoid up to 100,000 asthma attacks and 2,100 heart attacks—and those numbers go up from there. In 2030, the Clean Power Plan will deliver climate and health benefits of up to $90 billion dollars. And for soot and smog reductions alone, that means for every dollar we invest in the plan, families will see $7 dollars in health benefits. And if states are smart about taking advantage of efficiency opportunities, and I know they are, when the effects of this plan are in place in 2030, average electricity bills will be 8 percent cheaper."

The Road to the Crucial 2015 Climate Change Summit In Paris
At the 2009 Copenhagen climate change negotiations, the U.S. committed to a goal of reducing nationwide greenhouse gas emissions by 17% below 2005 levels by 2020. Today's proposed regulations only affect the electric power sector, which is responsible for 40% of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, so additional work will be needed to achieve this modest goal. Still, Obama's announcement today is the single most aggressive action any U.S. president has ever taken to reduce climate change, and will put the U.S. in a leadership position during the crucial December 2015 negotiations in Paris intended to forge a new legally binding global climate change treaty.

Jeff Masters

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621. marinermac1
4:36 PM GMT on June 08, 2014
Your support and acceptance of this all time fraud, scam, and hoax is disgraceful. Please respond to the following:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2014/ jun/06/97-consensus-global-warming
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620. stormchaser19
11:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Once again BOC doing his thing!!
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619. weatherportricheyfl
5:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting sar2401:

I'm getting the feeling you just enjoy asking about Tampa Bay. Nothing has changed from the last four times I answered you. If a storm makes it to Tampa, it's at least 9 days out, probably more like 12 days. No one knows if any storm will affect Tampa, and if so, by how much.

Sry sar my phone sucks so I ca
Ant see everyones post my bad thnks for answering the question
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618. flsky
4:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
$8 Air Conditioner

Link
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617. ricderr
3:51 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Now might be the time to prepare and avoid the rush. As far as canned goods go I personally recommend Progresso's Chicken and Rice soup and Heinz Vegetarian Beans. Both of these items can be cooked on your portable Sterno Cooker. Enjoy!


from someone who's been there and done that....might i reccomend some alternatives...first....make ice......and more ice......the freezer should be packed with it.......no power equals no ac....and unless you have a generator...no fan either.....while soup is nice on many occasions.....when you're hot...it just makes you hotter.....i suggest fruit salad....cool and refreshing....easy on the stomach too


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616. ncstorm
3:39 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Off topic..but wanted to share a youtube video of Florida surfers who just sit there and not head to land??? being surrounded by sharks over the memorial holiday..@ New Smyrna Beach

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615. wunderkidcayman
3:38 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 608. jrweatherman:

"What makes you think that it did not?
It's doing what I expected"

Man, you have me confused. Doing what you expected??

I was expecting as well as NHC a low to form in the BOC but nothing happen it weakens(72hrs period).
It's a long trof of low pressure that goes from the BOC to the W Caribbean/GOH(currently with a low pressure center in the BOC),
After it weaken the rest of its energy moves E into the GOH low reforms near East Central to North East Belize and develops moves ENE-NNE towards Yucatan Channel/W Cuba and then to South and/or Central Florida.
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614. weathermanwannabe
3:33 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
One of the potential issues we should be looking at down the road during the season is the current warm pool in the Gulf.  It is a rather large one this year so any storms traversing over it would get a little boost; assuming that shear also cooperated.  It could be a factor later in September on any storms threading the needle through the Yucatan Channel.http://www.esl.lsu.edu/static/pics/gvar/Gulf_Weekly/latest_weeksstssh.gif
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613. AussieStorm
3:30 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Interesting.....


GULF OF MEXICO...
A MIDDLE LEVEL INVERTED TROUGH ACROSS THE GULF IS SUPPORTING A
SURFACE TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN BASIN FROM 25N92W TO THE BAY OF
CAMPECHE NEAR 17N94W. ABUNDANT MOISTURE ACROSS THE BASIN BEING
ADVECTED FROM THE E PAC OCEAN AND THE CARIBBEAN SEA ALONG WITH
UPPER LEVEL DIFFLUENCE IS SUPPORTING SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION AND ISOLATED TSTMS E OF 90W AS WELL AS S OF 22N E OF
95W. A SURFACE RIDGE IS OVER THE EASTERN CONUS AND W ATLC
ANCHORED BY A PAIR OF 1021 MB HIGH PRESSURE CENTERS...ONE OVER
NORTHERN GEORGIA AND ANOTHER NEAR 33N75W. THIS RIDGE EXTENDS SW
INTO THE EASTERN AND NORTHWESTERN GULF TO SUPPORT SE WIND FLOW
OF 5-15 KT...EXCEPT FOR THE SW GULF WHERE A TIGHTER PRESSURE
GRADIENT SUPPORT WINDS OF 20-25 KT E OF THE TROUGH AXIS. EXCEPT
FOR THE SW GULF...RIDGING ALONG WITH 5-15 KT E-SE WIND FLOW WILL
DOMINATE ACROSS THE GULF DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. A LOW
PRESSURE CENTER IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OVER THE SW GULF ON WED
MORNING ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT SURFACE TROUGH.
RAINSHOWERS
ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE OVER THE SW AND NE GULF THROUGH THU
MORNING.

and so is this...

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612. hydrus
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 584. FOREX:



So then NHC isn't buying the GFS in forming a possible storm?
To early to make any solid forecasts I reckon.
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611. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
610. TropicalAnalystwx13
3:28 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Well I wasn't having an issue with NOAA sites yesterday, but I am this morning. The SPC outlooks haven't updated for me and none of the NOAA satellite loops are recent (last frame is 0415z).
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609. wunderkidcayman
3:27 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 601. weatherman994:

Stormwatch or this season maybe similar to 2004 or even 2012 when an el nino was expected but that year ended up tying 2010 and 2011


I'm leaning more on 04 then 12 but yeah both years

Quoting 602. jrweatherman:



This is a wait and see situation. The models have been all over the place for over a week.

True but there is a distinct trend starting
And that's E and S
Ending up more in Central and/or South Florida rather than Central and/or North Florida
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608. jrweatherman
3:27 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
"What makes you think that it did not?
It's doing what I expected"

Man, you have me confused. Doing what you expected??
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607. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:25 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 563. luvtogolf:



I'm completely aware of that - it's his blog. But unfortunately for those of us who's passion is tropical weather he's driving it to a CC blog (which is other peoples passion).
there is an open form of subjects related to weather climate and influences surrounding it allows for many different blog postings
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606. HurriHistory
3:25 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Okay, the latest GFS Run has a Tropical Storm slamming into the Southwest Coast of Florida next Wednesday in the vicinity of Naples-Everglades City. Now might be the time to prepare and avoid the rush. As far as canned goods go I personally recommend Progresso's Chicken and Rice soup and Heinz Vegetarian Beans. Both of these items can be cooked on your portable Sterno Cooker. Enjoy!
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605. StormWx
3:23 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting ricderr:
precip forecast tosses the finger at the tropics models....




Rut Roh, you mean the 384 hour out models arent going to verify? FL wont be 'slammed' with flooding rains? Thats a good thing, we dont need a system dumping rain on us for days.
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604. bappit
3:22 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
We probably have WU hooers that are toting when they blog.
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603. StormWx
3:21 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Nice cooler and dry temps today, much better than last week.

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602. jrweatherman
3:17 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 584. FOREX:



So then NHC isn't buying the GFS in forming a possible storm?


This is a wait and see situation. The models have been all over the place for over a week.
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601. weatherman994
3:17 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Stormwatch or this season maybe similar to 2004 or even 2012 when an el nino was expected but that year ended up tying 2010 and 2011
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600. PedleyCA
3:15 PM GMT on June 03, 2014

Going to HOT this weekend.... Good Day WU'ers
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599. ricderr
3:13 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
what about the tumble weeds seeing any of those


wind has died down.......so they're there...just waiting.....there's a decent chance of thunderstorms in the mountains this afternoon....if they materialize we could see dry but gusty conditions here......with temps in the mid 100's...and gusts at 25-30...it will be like a blast furnace
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598. wunderkidcayman
3:12 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 590. ricderr:

In the BOC

serious for a minute...so please don't get me wrong...but can you give us a synopsis as to why your earlier forecast did not come to fruition?

What makes you think that it did not?
It's doing what I expected


Quoting 593. StormWx:



Where do you think? Near Cayman? :o)

No
You've been flagged
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597. ricderr
3:11 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
precip forecast tosses the finger at the tropics models....


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596. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:11 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 594. ricderr:

on the local front we broke yesterdays heat record with a whopping 104 degrees....today we're looking at topping out at about 107....breaking another heat record for the date....things stay quite toasty through the weekend.......yes it's warm...but typical.....june averages 15 days of weather over 100 degrees
what about the tumble weeds seeing any of those
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595. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:10 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
02E/TD/XX/XX
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594. ricderr
3:10 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
on the local front we broke yesterdays heat record with a whopping 104 degrees....today we're looking at topping out at about 107....breaking another heat record for the date....things stay quite toasty through the weekend.......yes it's warm...but typical.....june averages 15 days of weather over 100 degrees
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593. StormWx
3:09 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

Well not in the BOC or SW GOM
And not in 72hrs or less


Where do you think? Near Cayman? :o)
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592. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 583. hydrus:

Off topic..They just showed on CNN people in restaurants carrying assault rifles..This new gun law is going to be serious trouble.
I have a order of fish and chips don't worry about my ak 47 that's just in case the fish moves
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591. SouthTampa
3:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 568. LargoFl:

a ton of moisture heading for us huh...................................

Seems odd that the forecast for our area went from higher rain chances for the next ten days to less than 20% for the next ten days since yesterday's forecast.
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590. ricderr
3:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
In the BOC

serious for a minute...so please don't get me wrong...but can you give us a synopsis as to why your earlier forecast did not come to fruition?
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589. wunderkidcayman
3:05 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 587. wunderkidcayman:


Which does not surprise me one bit because it's currently in 40kts shear and increasing

In the BOC
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588. wunderkidcayman
3:05 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 584. FOREX:



So then NHC isn't buying the GFS in forming a possible storm?

Well not in the BOC or SW GOM
And not in 72hrs or less
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587. wunderkidcayman
3:01 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 581. wunderkidcayman:

And as expected by NHC
12Z sfc maps put a stationary low 1005mb goin 1006mb


However NHC also predicts the low to dissipate
In 72hrs or just a little less than 72hrs


Which does not surprise me one bit because it's currently in 40kts shear and increasing
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586. fireflymom
3:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
It's not how much comes out of every smokestack but the total amount of emissions.
So developing a monitoring system to measure  the level of pollutants emerging into both our air and water from industrial sources then taxing them by the amount they output.  Might provide an incentive to clean up a little faster.
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585. jrweatherman
3:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 566. ricderr:

The one blogger who says we are in El Nino today may need to re-think it lol, I havent heard much from that blogger about the Kelvin wave in a while, it must not be impressive at the moment :o) And i guess all those warm anomalies are not surfacing.


i try not going there...it's so embarassing it's just sad


Wise not to go there. It isn't worth it.
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584. FOREX
3:00 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 581. wunderkidcayman:

And as expected by NHC
12Z sfc maps put a stationary low 1005mb goin 1006mb


However NHC also predicts the low to dissipate
In 72hrs or just a little less than 72hrs



So then NHC isn't buying the GFS in forming a possible storm?
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583. hydrus
2:57 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 579. Patrap:

One has to recognize Phodder fer Phool's.


Off topic..They just showed on CNN people in restaurants carrying assault rifles..This new gun law is going to be serious trouble.
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582. ricderr
2:57 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
You yourself could help the situation you are decrying: Ignore the climate change discussions and actively post on the subject of tropical weather and storms -- study the meteorology of the tropics and contribute to the knowledge base of tropical meteorology. Tip the balance more toward tropical discussions by discussing tropical weather more!


there's another alternative.....one that i don't actually suggest as i remain loyal to WU...but you can google the screen names of some past bloggers who were quite reputable and follow their posts at their new blogsites.....i'm hoping your idea works though
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581. wunderkidcayman
2:56 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
And as expected by NHC
12Z sfc maps put a stationary low 1005mb goin 1006mb


However NHC also predicts the low to dissipate
In 72hrs or just a little less than 72hrs
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580. Patrap
2:55 PM GMT on June 03, 2014


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579. Patrap
2:50 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
One has to recognize Phodder fer Phool's.

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578. ricderr
2:45 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
What is stupid is that someone actually funded the study, as small as it was lol. But hey if there is a Cat 5 bearing down on Wekiva Springs named Bertha I may not evacuate, but heck if its named Cristobal i am outta here. :o)


funny...as dumb as your comment is...it's exactly what they are saying......worse thing...there is a populace...that will be lieve it to boot
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577. CaneFreeCR
2:44 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 541. luvtogolf:



I'm 100% for cleaning the air. All you have to do is look at China and see how bad it is. But I am with you on this blog. I love to talk tropical weather which it what this blog is supposed to be about. However, Dr. Masters is driving this to be more of a CC blog (in which we have Dr. Roods) and because of that, the fun of talking tropics here is just about gone.
You yourself could help the situation you are decrying: Ignore the climate change discussions and actively post on the subject of tropical weather and storms -- study the meteorology of the tropics and contribute to the knowledge base of tropical meteorology. Tip the balance more toward tropical discussions by discussing tropical weather more!
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576. 7544
2:41 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 568. LargoFl:

a ton of moisture heading for us huh...................................
morning everyone yep yep its that time of the  year again p it be interesting  to see  if that moisture makes  it over  to the east  coast latter on today .

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575. StormWx
2:36 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting ricderr:
A recent study conducted by researchers at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign found that, for Atlantic Coast hurricanes in the U.S., storms with feminine names lead to more deaths than those with masculine names.

The best explanation for this, according to the Economist, is that people do not take hurricanes with women’s names as seriously as storms with men’s names. The researchers actually tested this theory — and produced supporting results.



come on...this is stupid


What is stupid is that someone actually funded the study, as small as it was lol. But hey if there is a Cat 5 bearing down on Wekiva Springs named Bertha I may not evacuate, but heck if its named Cristobal i am outta here. :o)
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574. ricderr
2:32 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
A recent study conducted by researchers at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign found that, for Atlantic Coast hurricanes in the U.S., storms with feminine names lead to more deaths than those with masculine names.

The best explanation for this, according to the Economist, is that people do not take hurricanes with women’s names as seriously as storms with men’s names. The researchers actually tested this theory — and produced supporting results.



come on...this is stupid
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573. Patrap
2:32 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
EPA finally gets U.S. into climate game: Our View

It's not how much comes out of every smokestack but the total amount of emissions.

In recent weeks, the scientific warnings about global warming have been coming in faster than a line of summer thunderstorms. Authoritative studies have documented rising sea levels, "irreversible" ice sheet melting, a northward migration of the tropics, and climate-induced conflict and instability.

There's no guarantee that the Obama administration's new limits on carbon emissions from existing power plants, announced Monday, can reverse these ominous trends. Global warming is, by definition, a global problem. So even if America meets the administration's goal of a 30% reduction from 2005 levels by 2030, the U.S. reductions will be swamped by increases elsewhere if other big polluters don't follow suit.

Does this mean the new rules aren't worth the effort? Hardly. If the plan survives the inevitable political and legal assaults, it will prevent a not-inconsequential hundreds of millions of tons of heat-trapping carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere. It will make renewables such as solar and wind power more competitive with fossil fuels. And it will improve public health at home by reducing soot and smog-forming emissions from coal-burning power plants, the largest source of greenhouse gases.

NATIONAL MINING ASSOCIATION: A better pathway

Most important, the proposal will give the United States, the world's second largest carbon emitter after China, far more leverage in upcoming international climate talks. "Every country is watching what every other country is doing," says David Doniger, director of the climate and clean air program at the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), which proposed a strategy similar to the one the Environmental Protection Agency announced. "This is the United States' way to show it is in the game."

Because a head-in-the-sand Congress has refused to put a price on carbon pollution, the administration opted for the next best approach. The EPA is using its authority under the Clean Air Act to set state standards, based on their energy mixes. States can use a variety of ways to meet their goals. These flexible rules recognize that what's important is not how much comes out of every smokestack, but the total amount of emissions. This is not a new idea: California and nine Northeast states already have "cap-and-trade" programs that limit overall emissions but allow polluters to buy government-issued credits from clean-energy producers.

Even before the new EPA rules were announced, they set off the usual flurry of warring economic prognostications. Business groups warned of skyrocketing utility bills and job losses. The NRDC and other environmental groups claim that electric bills will actually drop, and that new green-energy jobs will replace lost coal-related ones.

Who's right? The history of environmental regulations has been that the biggest scare stories haven't panned out. Cleaner air and cleaner water have been achieved at manageable costs. But it's reasonable to conclude that the new regulations will cause electric rates to rise in some regions, particularly in coal-dependent states such as Kentucky, Wyoming, West Virginia, Indiana and North Dakota.

That's part of the price of an accelerating shift away from coal toward natural gas and renewables. Perhaps the new standards will make clean-coal and carbon recapture technologies more economically feasible. And perhaps low-income energy assistance could be increased to consumers in coal-dependent places to help ease the transition. In any case, a singular focus on electric bills overlooks the high costs of inaction for taxpayers everywhere — in storm damage, sea wall construction and drought relief.

There's a tiny chance, of course, that the scientific consensus on human-induced climate disruption is too alarmist. But there's also a chance that it might be too conservative, that scientists are being overly cautious for fear of being labeled alarmist.

Prudent risk management involves leaving a margin for error when the fate of the planet is at risk. It involves preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. So far, the nation's policy has mainly involved preparing for the best case scenarios and hoping against the worst ones.

Monday's announcement marks the start of a far saner approach for the United States, one that will resonate globally.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.
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572. Stormwatch247
2:30 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 524. weatherman994:

Stormwatch based on the failed predictions from every year during the seasons things always tend to change


Things could change, it possibly will :)

For example, the 2014 hurricane season might start off like the 2002 or 1997 Atlantic Hurricane seasons. Both seasons started off fairly busy, and then El Nino kicked in ... later in the year, and then, the "busy season," was suddenly shut down. Whether this scenario is going to happen in the Atlantic (in 2014), is yet to be seen.

After Hurricane Lili formed in Sept 2002 (weak to moderate El Nino kicked in), the season was shut down, as nothing formed in October 2002, or after that.

Same for 1997, by the end of July 1997, we saw 4 named Atlantic storms form, but ended up with only 7 named storms that year... (a STRONG EL Nino formed by mid-summer).

Both years only produced 7 total hurricanes in the Atlantic basin combined, but along the US Gulf Coast, we saw the landfalls of: Hurricane Lili , Isidore (hit LA as TS, but both storms had their names retired), Hannah, and Fay. T.S, Kyle brushed the Carolinas (2002); and Hurricane Danny (1997).




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571. LargoFl
2:25 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
Quoting 525. SFLWeatherman:

FIM 7


FIM 8


FIM 9


wow thanks for posting this..seems we are in for something,surely alot of rain regadless of winds etc...
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