Slow-Motion Collapse of West Antarctic Glaciers is Unstoppable, 2 New Studies Say

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 6:01 PM GMT on May 13, 2014

Share this Blog
54
+

Human-caused global warming has set in motion an unstoppable slow-motion collapse of the glaciers in West Antarctica of massive scale and power, said scientists at a NASA press conference and press release on Monday. The scientists, led by glaciologist Eric Rignot of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory/the University of California, Irvine, analyzed 19 years of satellite data to show that the fast-melting glaciers that drain into West Antarctica's Amundsen Sea had passed a point of no return, since their bottoms are grounded below sea level. The glaciers had been lodged on "pinning points" on the bedrock--projections that snagged the glaciers from underneath and kept them from sliding toward the sea. Melting due to warmer ocean waters has been eating away the glaciers from beneath, freeing them from their pinning points, and setting in motion a slow-motion collapse that appears "unstoppable", Rignot said at the press conference. The glaciers contain enough ice to raise global sea level by 4 feet (1.2 meters) in a few hundred years at their current rate of melting, Rignot added. The research has been accepted for publication in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


Figure 1. Thwaites Glacier, the West Antarctic glacier that is the most serious threat to bring large levels of sea level rise this century. Image credit: NASA.

Computer modeling study shows same result
A separate paper published on Monday in Science, Marine Ice Sheet Collapse Potentially Under Way for the Thwaites Glacier Basin, West Antarctica, came to a similar result, but using computer modeling instead of observations. The researchers, led by Ian Joughin of the University of Washington, found that West Antarctica's fast-moving Thwaites Glacier will likely disappear in a matter of centuries, raising sea level by nearly 2 feet. “All of our simulations show it will retreat at less than a millimeter of sea level rise per year for a couple of hundred years, and then, boom, it just starts to really go,” Joughin said. The Thwaites Glacier acts as a linchpin on the rest of the ice sheet, which contains enough ice to cause another 10 to 13 feet (3 to 4 meters) of global sea level rise. For comparison, 119,000 - 126,000 years ago, during the period before the most recent ice age, global sea levels were 16 - 33 feet (5 - 10 meters) higher than at present. Temperatures at that time were less than 2°C warmer than "pre-industrial" levels, and we are on track to warm the planet at least that much this century.


Figure 2. Historical global sea level rise from 1700 - 2012 as compiled by the 2013 IPCC report, along with predicted sea level rise from the IPCC and from a group of 26 ice sheet experts (Bamber and Asplinall, 2013). Sea level rose 7.5" (19 cm) between 1901 - 2012, with the rate of rise nearly doubling over the past 20 years. The low-end RCP 2.6 IPCC forecast corresponds to global warming of just 1°C between 1995 - 2100, which will be nearly impossible to achieve. Humanity is currently on pace to warm the planet more than IPCC's worst-case RCP 8.5 scenario (3.7°C between 1995 - 2100.) Before Monday's research results were announced, the IPCC sea level rise estimates were already viewed as quite conservative by the majority of sea level rise experts; see the write-up at real climate.org of the Bamber and Asplinall, 2013 study.

IPCC sea level rise estimates too low?
At the press conference, the scientists questioned the sea level rise estimates made by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in September 2013 as being too low. That report projected that sea level will rise by an extra 0.9 - 3.2' (26 to 98 cm) by 2100. The IPCC did not fully account for potential melting in Antarctica, and decided not to include estimates from at least five published studies that had higher numbers, including two studies with rises of 2 meters (6.6 feet.) This is in contradiction to NOAA's December 2012 U.S. National Climate Assessment Report, which has 6.6 feet (2.0 meters) as its worst-case sea level rise scenario for 2100.


Video 1. ScienceCasts: No Turning Back--West Antarctic Glaciers in Irreversible Decline

Jeff Masters

Reader Comments

Comments will take a few seconds to appear.

Post Your Comments

Please sign in to post comments.

or Join

Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.

Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted

Viewing: 874 - 824

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18Blog Index

874. Oldbluedeer
11:31 PM GMT on June 03, 2014
At least the MMGW alarmists should admit that climate change has been going on as long as there has been a climate. Scientists cannot predict the weather two weeks in advance, at least not with any dependable regularity. Trying to attribute our current climate conditions to this so called MMBW is mostly speculation. Science demands proof (hypothesize, test, validate results...) and what is offered as proof does not meet objective scientific rigor. At least admit that, and perhaps then there can be a constructive conversation.
Member Since: November 19, 2013 Posts: 0 Comments: 0
873. UncorruptedScience
8:17 PM GMT on May 16, 2014
CO2 appears to trail global temperature trends according to every paleo-climatological graph, and even this report refers to a trend dating back centuries (try looking back 16k years BTW... same overall trend). We should deal with change rather than wasting time with measures that can't possibly have an affect.

Since AGW has become a fundamentalist religion this its adherents might respond to this data with dismissive worlds like "heretic", "denier", etc.. However, for those who believe that unverified hypothesis regarding the future do not constitute "settled science" here are some interesting links: http://nipccreport.org/reports/ccr2b/pdf/Summary-f or-Policymakers.pdf ; http://www.co2science.org/ ; http://wattsupwiththat.com/ ; http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB124657655235 589119?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.c om%2Farticle%2FSB124657655235589119.html#printMode
Member Since: May 13, 2014 Posts: 0 Comments: 0
872. VAstorms
1:24 AM GMT on May 16, 2014
Quoting 369. MaxWeather:



you are the 90th down!


Put me down for 10-2-2
Member Since: August 28, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 247
870. marsHen
2:52 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
the incoming rain in north florida has been pretty much like a cow pissing on a flat rock..
Member Since: September 5, 2011 Posts: 844 Comments: 134
869. MahFL
2:47 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 862. yonzabam:



I hope that's tongue in cheek. The issue of polar bears going extinct due to melting Arctic ocean ice is codswallop. There will probably be fewer of them, but they are opportunist hunters, and are at home on ice free rocky coasts, where they hunt walrus pups.

They would create mayhem in Antarctica, where seals and penguins have no experience of land predators.

I was under the impression though their main pray was seals and seal pups on ice flows.
Member Since: June 9, 2004 Posts: 0 Comments: 3492
868. JohnLonergan
2:44 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 854. PlazaRed:


That comment you posted at 844 surly has to be a joke.



Bingo KEYWORDS HUMOR; POLITICS
Member Since: June 27, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 3284
867. CuriousAboutClimate
2:42 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
jpsb, the little ice age ended over a century ago, so the argument that current warming is a recovery from the little ice age is literally out of date.
Member Since: January 28, 2014 Posts: 0 Comments: 205
866. jpsb
2:33 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 826. Xyrus2000:



This "rebounding" you mention. Where did it come from? What caused temperatures to warm up? For the planet to warm up their either needs to be an increase in incoming radiation, a decrease in outgoing radiation, or a mixture of both. Detailed solar records have shown no appreciable increase in incoming radiation, so that implies a decrease in outgoing radiation.



Nature variation in temps happens, medieval warm period


The temperature reconstruction is based on the Sphagnum δ13Ccellulose /temperature dependency observed in calibration studies. Reconstructed GST anomalies show considerable centennial and decadal scale variability. A cold and presumably also wet phase with below-average temperature is reconstructed between the 4th and 7th century AD which is in accordance with the so called European Migration Period marking the transition from the Late Roman Period to the Early Middle Ages. At High Medieval Times above-average temperatures are obvious followed by a temperature decrease. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2011/10/02/german-peat-bog -temperature-reconstruction-shows-strong-central-e uropean-variations/#sthash.s5tIWraD.dpuf

http://www.clim-past.net/7/1011/2011/cp-7-1011-20 11.pdf

temperature record for our interglacial from wiki



Member Since: June 30, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 1191
865. LargoFl
2:25 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Antartica wildlife.......................................... ...................................Link
Member Since: August 6, 2011 Posts: 4 Comments: 38500
864. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
2:21 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
863. LargoFl
2:20 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
817 AM EDT THU MAY 15 2014

MDZ003>005-009-010-501-502-VAZ025>031-036>040-042 -050-051-501>504-
WVZ050>053-055-501>506-161000-
WASHINGTON-FREDERICK MD-CARROLL-MONTGOMERY-HOWARD-
EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-CENTRAL AND EASTERN ALLEGANY-AUGUSTA-
ROCKINGHAM-SHENANDOAH-FREDERICK VA-PAGE-WARREN-CLARKE-NELSON-
ALBEMARLE-GREENE-MADISON-RAPPAHANNOCK-LOUDOUN-ORA NGE-CULPEPER-
NORTHERN FAUQUIER-SOUTHERN FAUQUIER-WESTERN HIGHLAND-
EASTERN HIGHLAND-HAMPSHIRE-MORGAN-BERKELEY-JEFFERSON-HARDY -
WESTERN GRANT-EASTERN GRANT-WESTERN MINERAL-EASTERN MINERAL-
WESTERN PENDLETON-EASTERN PENDLETON-
817 AM EDT THU MAY 15 2014

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR EASTERN WEST VIRGINIA...
NORTHERN AND CENTRAL VIRGINIA...AND CENTRAL AND WESTERN MARYLAND
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GARRETT COUNTY.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH IS IN EFFECT THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT FOR
COUNTIES WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS...TONIGHT FOR THE TIER
OF COUNTIES EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS...AND OVERNIGHT FOR
NORTH-CENTRAL MARYLAND. WIDESPREAD HEAVY RAINFALL IS EXPECTED
AHEAD OF A SLOW- MOVING COLD FRONT...WHICH COULD LEAD TO FLASH
FLOODING.

ISOLATED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH
TONIGHT. THE PRIMARY THREATS WILL BE LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS
AND ISOLATED TORNADOES.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM FRIDAY AFTERNOON
FOR COUNTIES WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE...AND UNTIL 6 PM FRIDAY
EVENING FOR COUNTIES EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE. WIDESPREAD HEAVY
RAINFALL IS EXPECTED AHEAD OF A SLOW-MOVING COLD FRONT...
ESPECIALLY FRIDAY MORNING. RIVER FLOODING WILL BE POSSIBLE FRIDAY
NIGHT AND SATURDAY.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION MAY BE NEEDED THIS AFTERNOON AND NIGHT.

$$
Member Since: August 6, 2011 Posts: 4 Comments: 38500
862. yonzabam
2:16 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 858. PlazaRed:


It could be an interesting experiment in the aided survival of polar bears to collect a fair number of them and transport them to Antarctica if their environment becomes seriously threatened.
The possible future sight of a few hundred tranquilly sleeping on a wide bodied jumbo jet waiting for the sedation to wear off would be a lot more welcome than out of place government officials who are unaware of the locations of most things but probably know where Wall St. is!
give that they will probably have little problem adapting the southern frozen wasteland there is plenty of scope for them there.
A sort of polar version of what has inadvertently happened with the Burmese pythons in Florida.


I hope that's tongue in cheek. The issue of polar bears going extinct due to melting Arctic ocean ice is codswallop. There will probably be fewer of them, but they are opportunist hunters, and are at home on ice free rocky coasts, where they hunt walrus pups.

They would create mayhem in Antarctica, where seals and penguins have no experience of land predators.
Member Since: July 20, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 2925
861. LargoFl
2:13 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Member Since: August 6, 2011 Posts: 4 Comments: 38500
860. MahFL
2:13 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 857. LongIslandBeaches:



Yikes... as a registered Republican, this quote is disturbing - whether or not it was taken out of context. Michelle Bachmann has been spewing nonsense for years now.


It's a humorous article, they did not visit the ice sheet.
Member Since: June 9, 2004 Posts: 0 Comments: 3492
859. slavicthunder
2:11 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
If I recall correctly, the CMC was predicting a prolific low pressure center off the east coast of northern Florida for May 15.
Member Since: August 5, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 106
858. PlazaRed
2:05 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 855. fireflymom:

Polar Bears do not live in the Antarctic how ignorant can one be, politicians need schooling in Science and geography.



It could be an interesting experiment in the aided survival of polar bears to collect a fair number of them and transport them to Antarctica if their environment becomes seriously threatened.
The possible future sight of a few hundred tranquilly sleeping on a wide bodied jumbo jet waiting for the sedation to wear off would be a lot more welcome than out of place government officials who are unaware of the locations of most things but probably know where Wall St. is!
Given that they will probably have little problem adapting the southern frozen wasteland, there is plenty of scope for them there.
A sort of polar version of what has inadvertently happened with the Burmese pythons in Florida.
Member Since: January 21, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 2079
857. LongIslandBeaches
2:01 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 844. Patrap:

“The Ice Sheet melt is only a problem if you live in Antarctica, which, honestly, is a pretty dumb place to live,” she said. “Polar bears live in Antarctica because they have no choice, but we’re not polar bears.”


Yikes... as a registered Republican, this quote is disturbing - whether or not it was taken out of context. Michelle Bachmann has been spewing nonsense for years now.
Member Since: May 2, 2014 Posts: 0 Comments: 41
856. luvtogolf
1:56 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 811. StormWx:



I will dish you your daily crow bubba. As i stated, there was never going to be 4-6". I wouldnt put so much faith in these models you look at, makes you look bad most the time!

Tampa Airport rain 5/14/14: 0.60
St. Petersburg: 0.27
Orlando International: 0.23

Today though is a different story. Showers will be moving through later on.



Got .4" at my house here on the West Coast. That's a little bit short of the 4-6".
Member Since: June 12, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 992
855. fireflymom
1:52 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Polar Bears do not live in the Antarctic how ignorant can one be, politicians need schooling in Science and geography.
Quoting Patrap:

Member Since: June 5, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 588
854. PlazaRed
1:51 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 844. Patrap:



That comment you posted at 844 surly has to be a joke.
Quoting 205. JohnLonergan:
Although I am not familiar with the US system of government and how it works or why they would be members of it in Antarctica, the statement about polar bears being there is crazy.
They are not so dumb as to live there, unlike a lot of scientists.

Here's a bit of a quote from a polar bear article:-

"Polar bears live in the circumpolar north in areas where they can hunt seals at openings in the sea ice called leads. They are found in Canada (home to roughly 60% of the world's polar bears), the U.S. (Alaska), Greenland, Russia, and Norway (the Svalbard archipelago). Scientists have identified 19 populations of polar bears living in four different ice regions in the Arctic.

Although popular art and children's books often show polar bears and penguins together, the two live at opposite poles. Polar bears live in the Arctic. Penguins live in Antarctica."

Link
Member Since: January 21, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 2079
853. stoormfury
1:51 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
it appears that the rapid El Nino event maybe delayed abit. There are no signs of any WWB at the moment.The apparent kelvin wave is not as strong to move the pool of warm water further east. it is quite possible the atlantic season will not be as dormant as some may want to think.
Member Since: August 22, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 2681
852. Xulonn
1:48 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 797. sar2401:


Sorry about that, I didn't mean to make you mad...
You didn't make me mad, SAR, but you definitely issued a challenge that I took up. I truly appreciate your civil response, and willingness to actually debate an issue - a trait that a fair number do not share at this blog. Unlike some of the anti-science and anti-AGW/CC trolls here, your comments are usually worth a response. We are both obviously more into essays rather than exclusively snippets and comments, and that is where you can get a bit deeper into a discussion. I did about 10 hours of research in looking for more info to support my points. I even found information in older scanned pages of reports and papers that are not easily searchable.

I agree with you that the World Bank numbers are soft, but just because the numbers may have a higher margin of error does not mean that they should be ignored. They should still be used in overall planning for complex, mega-events such as ENSO-related effects.

The article was short - more like a cable news blurb rather than a long NYT or serious magazine article with several thousand words, and you and I obviously interpreted it differently. You apparently looked for the flaws to discredit it, and I looked for the essence in spite of its flaws and limitations.

It is interesting how you, a pragmatic, by the book law & order guy, differ from me in our perceptions. You seem to be practical with a focus on "by the book methods" - good traits for what you did for so many years, and it likely served you well.

I am essentially an ecologist with a focus on how people relate to the nature and the psychological and sociological issues that limit humans in their ability to plan for the future and especially make sacrifices now for future benefit - or simply to prevent or mitigate future disaster. I have at least a lower-division university background in most of the basic sciences - chemistry, physics, ecology, biology, forestry, geology, astronomy, math, and statistics. And I even took an online course from a university in climate science last year. I appreciate having full data and understanding, but sometimes you have to work with less knowledge than you would like, because that is all that is available.

I saved the rest of your reply and will bring it up another time, especially the concept of "an appeal to authority" and how it can sometimes be useful and at other times full of pitfalls.

I appreciate your willingness to actually participate in debate and conversation, and look forward to our next "debate," even though it may get heated.

I need to stop writing and get this posted - before the dreaded "SAR Syndrome" of Dr. Masters posting a new entry makes it the last one on the page.

Member Since: June 11, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 1450
851. FBMinFL
1:40 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 845. Neapolitan:



Smart people such as Dr. Masters know they've won the intellectual debate when their frustrated and desperately flailing opponents resort to calling them mentally ill...


True statement. Although I think it is somewhat of a natural response in some to doubt such dire warnings ... kind of a "hope springs eternal" mentality, if you will.

Thank you vary march.
Member Since: May 2, 2014 Posts: 0 Comments: 119
850. FBMinFL
1:36 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Good morning.

I will be back to answer questions after I have my morning coffee.
Member Since: May 2, 2014 Posts: 0 Comments: 119
849. Torito
1:30 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK...CORRECTED
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT THU MAY 15 2014

~CORRECTED FOR DATE AND TIME IN THE HEADER~

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE:

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT FIVE
DAYS.

TODAY MARKS THE FIRST DAY OF THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC HURRICANE
SEASON, WHICH WILL RUN UNTIL NOVEMBER 30.

LONG-TERM AVERAGES FOR
THE NUMBER OF NAMED STORMS, HURRICANES, AND MAJOR HURRICANES ARE
15, 8, AND 4, RESPECTIVELY.
Member Since: April 30, 2013 Posts: 5 Comments: 4316
848. Neapolitan
1:27 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 829. Skyepony:

Best to those fleeing fire in San Diego, CA today.


Today's expected to be the worst "1-2-3" day of the entire event, with dozens of locations expected to see single-digit humidity, double-digit winds, and triple-digit temperatures.



Yikes...

Meanwhile, widespread 30s throughout Texas this morning, a relative rarity for the middle of May.
Member Since: November 8, 2009 Posts: 4 Comments: 13531
847. barbamz
1:23 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
European rainfall radar.
Member Since: October 25, 2008 Posts: 54 Comments: 5936
846. Patrap
1:22 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Thanx whitewabbit, it is a Good day fer sure.

Hope yours is fine as well too.

57.4 F is a Bonus number too, wearing this suit.
Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 424 Comments: 128284
845. Neapolitan
1:22 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 838. dutchessweather:

So utterly irresponsible to claim that "Human-caused global warming has set in motion an unstoppable slow-motion collapse of the glaciers..."! How can you look in the mirror and not wince? I can only conclude that someone is paying you to make such outrageous statements, or that you are mentally ill. And I have much more evidence to make that conclusion than you have to have made such a ridiculous claim. Wow! Just wow!


Smart people such as Dr. Masters know they've won the intellectual debate when their frustrated and desperately flailing opponents resort to calling them mentally ill...
Member Since: November 8, 2009 Posts: 4 Comments: 13531
844. Patrap
1:21 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 205. JohnLonergan:

From The New Yorker:

CONSERVATIVES PRAISE ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET MELT AS BEAUTIFUL EXPRESSION OF FREE MARKET

NTARCTICA (The Borowitz Report)—A delegation of conservative members of Congress paid a visit to the West Antarctic Ice Sheet melt today to witness firsthand what one of them called “the most beautiful expression of the free market I’ve ever seen.”

The author of that remark, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), said that he was awestruck after watching gigantic chunks of glacier disintegrate and crash to the sea.

“Every schoolchild in America needs to see this,” he said. “This is the free market at work in the way that God and Ayn Rand intended.”

Rep. Ryan said that watching the now-unstoppable Ice Sheet melt in action reaffirmed his belief in “the glory and might of free-market forces.”

“Now more than ever, I believe that government needs to get out of the way of glaciers,” he said.

Another member of the delegation, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minnesota), decried what she called the “alarmism” surrounding reports of the collapsing Ice Sheet.

“The Ice Sheet melt is only a problem if you live in Antarctica, which, honestly, is a pretty dumb place to live,” she said. “Polar bears live in Antarctica because they have no choice, but we’re not polar bears.”
Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 424 Comments: 128284
843. whitewabit (Mod)
1:20 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 836. Patrap:

Today, I watch my Oldest Graduate from LSU Nursing School.
She is the first College Graduate on my side of the Family.
This Day, is truly a Joyous one for my Parents in heaven.
I want to thank all who had a role in raising Samantha scholastically, religious wise and with a helping thought word, or deed.
Thank you, thank you...

Thank you.


Congratulations both to her and to you as the very proud PaPa !!

a few years ago my daughter did the same thing in graduating from Bradley University .. the first in I hope a long line of graduates I hope !!
Member Since: August 17, 2005 Posts: 363 Comments: 31394
842. Patrap
1:18 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Lordy, seems the ol Lid is off the burling kettle.

LoL
Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 424 Comments: 128284
841. barbamz
1:18 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 832. Skyepony:

Flood in Serbia on Thursday, 15 May, 2014 at 12:34 (12:34 PM) UTC.
Description
The heaviest rains and floods in the past 120 years hit Bosnia and Serbia this week, killing three people, cutting off electricity and leaving several towns and villages isolated. The three casualties, one of them a firefighter on a rescue mission, drowned in Serbia. The country declared a state of emergency in 18 towns and cities, including the capital, Belgrade. Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic said on Thursday he would declare an emergency for the whole country at 1100 GMT. "This is the greatest flooding disaster ever. Not only in the past 100 years; this has never happened in Serbia's history," Vucic told a news conference. "More rain fell in one day than in four months." Serbian Energy Minister Aleksandar Antic said power supplies were cut to around 100,000 households, mostly in central Serbia. Serbia's power company, Elektroprivreda Srbije, said it had mobilized teams to monitor the situation on the ground. Flooding had disrupted production in two coal mines supplying major thermal plants, the company said.



Dooh! Yvette really is a bad one. Power outages in Austria as well. School closed in some areas.




Accumulated rainfall in the next 24hours in l.

I have to run. See you later.
Member Since: October 25, 2008 Posts: 54 Comments: 5936
840. Torito
1:17 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Member Since: April 30, 2013 Posts: 5 Comments: 4316
839. Torito
1:15 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
"Potential Amanda" at peak strength:

GFS 186 hours.

Member Since: April 30, 2013 Posts: 5 Comments: 4316
838. dutchessweather
1:13 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
So utterly irresponsible to claim that "Human-caused global warming has set in motion an unstoppable slow-motion collapse of the glaciers..."!  How can you look in the mirror and not wince?  I can only conclude that someone is paying you to make such outrageous statements, or that you are mentally ill.  And I have much more evidence to make that conclusion than you have to have made such a ridiculous claim.  Wow!  Just wow!
Member Since: October 3, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 14
837. Torito
1:13 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
First one of the offical season.

Member Since: April 30, 2013 Posts: 5 Comments: 4316
836. Patrap
1:12 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Today, I watch my Oldest Graduate from LSU Nursing School.
She is the first College Graduate on my side of the Family.
This Day, is truly a Joyous one for my Parents in heaven.
I want to thank all who had a role in raising Samantha scholastically, religious wise and with a helping thought word, or deed.
Thank you, thank you...

Thank you.
Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 424 Comments: 128284
835. Skyepony (Mod)
1:11 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 831. Patrap:

I posted that Fire raw video last night as I came across it skyepony..

Bad stuff

That is bad stuff.

I changed it to one uploaded this morning for a different video.
Member Since: August 10, 2005 Posts: 162 Comments: 37831
834. Torito
1:11 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
NAVGEM 60 hours out:



GFS 132 hours out:



GEM 216 hours out:



IR-SIM 132 hours out:



CFS 126 hours out: (red=low pressure)



So many models support this system. Maybe Amanda is arriving.
Member Since: April 30, 2013 Posts: 5 Comments: 4316
833. CaribBoy
1:10 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 830. AussieStorm:



Would you like something like this from Spain?




No, either a gorgeous clear day (with strong thunderstorms in the background) or a very dark rainy day.
Member Since: October 6, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 6168
832. Skyepony (Mod)
1:09 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Flood in Serbia on Thursday, 15 May, 2014 at 12:34 (12:34 PM) UTC.
Description
The heaviest rains and floods in the past 120 years hit Bosnia and Serbia this week, killing three people, cutting off electricity and leaving several towns and villages isolated. The three casualties, one of them a firefighter on a rescue mission, drowned in Serbia. The country declared a state of emergency in 18 towns and cities, including the capital, Belgrade. Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic said on Thursday he would declare an emergency for the whole country at 1100 GMT. "This is the greatest flooding disaster ever. Not only in the past 100 years; this has never happened in Serbia's history," Vucic told a news conference. "More rain fell in one day than in four months." Serbian Energy Minister Aleksandar Antic said power supplies were cut to around 100,000 households, mostly in central Serbia. Serbia's power company, Elektroprivreda Srbije, said it had mobilized teams to monitor the situation on the ground. Flooding had disrupted production in two coal mines supplying major thermal plants, the company said.



Member Since: August 10, 2005 Posts: 162 Comments: 37831
831. Patrap
1:07 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
I posted that Fire raw video last night as I came across it skyepony..

Bad stuff
Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 424 Comments: 128284
830. AussieStorm
1:02 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting CaribBoy:
That variably-cloudy weather is absolutely boring.



Would you like something like this from Spain?

Member Since: September 30, 2007 Posts: 9 Comments: 15935
829. Skyepony (Mod)
1:00 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Best to those fleeing fire in San Diego, CA today.

Member Since: August 10, 2005 Posts: 162 Comments: 37831
828. CaribBoy
12:54 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
That variably-cloudy weather is absolutely boring.

The dust has been omnipresent for ages!! Even more than previous years during april and may. That milky sky is truly ugly. It's not the beautiful tropical sky people dream to see...

Member Since: October 6, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 6168
827. TimSoCal
12:46 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Well it cooled down by 27 degrees in the last 8 hours. Unfortunaely, temps will probably go up by 40 later today. No humidity to speak of.
Member Since: July 9, 2013 Posts: 0 Comments: 738
826. Xyrus2000
12:45 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
Quoting 791. jpsb:




The average temperature in 2013 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit (14.6 degrees Celsius), which is 1.1 °F (0.6 °C) warmer than the mid-20th century baseline. The average global temperature has risen about 1.4 °F (0.8 °C) since 1880, according to the new analysis. Exact rankings for individual years are sensitive to data inputs and analysis methods.


http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20140121/


Also recall that the climate is rebounding from a very cool little ice age.


Incorrect. There are many peer reviewed research papers on the subject of the little ice age and it's causes/effects. The average regional temperature decrease in the regions affected by it have been termed "modest", about -.5C or so.

But more importantly, you dance around the elephant in the room. This "rebounding" you mention. Where did it come from? What caused temperatures to warm up? For the planet to warm up their either needs to be an increase in incoming radiation, a decrease in outgoing radiation, or a mixture of both. Detailed solar records have shown no appreciable increase in incoming radiation, so that implies a decrease in outgoing radiation. What has changed about our planet in the past 200 years that would cause a decrease in outgoing radiation (i.e., trap more heat)?

And keep in mind no measurable warming for 17+ years.


Cherry picking isn't that hard. Neither is using incorrect means of establishing statistical significance.


Someone earlier as applauding Germany for it use of renewables. I guess he is OK with deforrestation of rain forests. Because that is exactly what is happening to supply Europe with "renewables". My guess is far more damage is being done by deforestation than good.


Climate scientists study climate. They do not make policy. They have no power to enforce policy. Policy is made by politicians.
Member Since: October 31, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 1479
825. StormWx
12:39 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
After the rain today it dries out for some time with temperatures at average for the foreseeable future in Central FL!

Member Since: July 10, 2013 Posts: 0 Comments: 937
824. LargoFl
12:31 PM GMT on May 15, 2014
cnn says thousands of folks evacuated from san diego california because of the fires there....dont we have a san diego poster here...hope he and his family members are safe......................
Member Since: August 6, 2011 Posts: 4 Comments: 38500

Viewing: 874 - 824

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18Blog Index

Top of Page

About

Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.