April 27 - 30 Severe Weather Outbreak: 39 Dead, $1 Billion+ in Damage

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:24 PM GMT on May 01, 2014

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The deadly and devastating U.S. severe weather outbreak of April 27 - 30, 2014, has finally drawn to a close. The death toll from nature’s 4-day rampage of deadly tornadoes, extreme flooding, and damaging severe thunderstorms has killed at least 39 people, and will end up costing more than $1 billion, according to disaster expert Steve Bowen of Aon Benfield. NOAA’s Storm Prediction Center (SPC) lists 133 preliminary tornadoes over the four days in 14 states; damage surveys are on-going, and 38 of these tornadoes had been confirmed as of noon on May 1.


Figure 1. Rainfall derived from the TRMM' satellite’s Microwave Imager (TMI) and Precipitation Radar (PR) data is shown overlaid on GOES-EAST infrared satellite images captured on April 29, 2014 at 0402 UTC and 0532 UTC. Red symbols show the locations where numerous tornadoes were reported from Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning. Image credit: NASA.

Extreme rainfall and flooding in Pensacola and Mobile
Torrential rains on Tuesday night in Pensacola, Florida brought an all-time calendar-day record of 15.55” of rain to the city. The old calendar day record of 15.29" in October 1934 was due to a tropical storm that made landfall just to the west of the city. Mobile, Alabama saw 11.24" during the calendar day on Tuesday, their 3rd greatest calendar day total on record. The Pensacola Airport recorded a remarkable 5.68 inches of rain in just one hour ending at 10 pm Tuesday night, and numerous high-water rescues had to be performed Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. One drowning occurred, in a vehicle that tried to cross flooded Highway 29. According to a nice flood event summary from the Mobile/Pensacola NWS, the 5.68" that fell in 1 hour was between a 1 to 200 and 1 to 500 year event, and the two day estimated total for Pensacola of 20.47" lies between a 1 in 100 to 1 in 200 year event. As discussed by Andrea Thompson at Climate Central, these type of extreme precipitation events have increased in the U.S. in recent decades, are are expected to continue to increase as a warming climate puts more moisture into the atmosphere. A comparison for perspective: Wichita, Kansas is having it's second driest start to the year since 1936, with 2.01” since January 1, 2014; Pensacola received 2 1/2 times as much rain in one hour than Wichita has seen all year. Pensacola finished April with 29.53” of rain, breaking the all-time record for any month (not just April) of 24.46” set in April 2005. This also makes it the wettest year-to-date on record in Pensacola.


Figure 2. Natural gas leaks spray into the sky on Piedmont Street in the Cordova Park neighborhood in Pensacola, Florida, after the road washed out due to heavy rains on April 30, 2014. (Photo by Marianna Massey/Getty Images)


Video 1. Aerial drone footage of the Scenic Highway near Pensacola, Florida, after being washed out by extreme flooding on April 30, 2014. Another YouTube drone video here of the Pensacola flooding also shows the impressive scale of the event.

Heavy rains and flooding in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast
The storm also brought heavy rains and damaging flooding to much of the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast on Wednesday. The 4.97" that fell in New York City at Central Park was the Big Apple’s 2nd wettest April day on record, behind the 7.57" that fell on April 15, 2007. In Pennsylvania, during a nine-hour period that ended early Thursday, Chester County got 6.6 “ of rain, Delaware and Montgomery counties got 5.5”, and Philadelphia nearly 5 inches. At least 62 people were rescued overnight in Chester County from their vehicles, most after driving past closed road signs and barriers. Heavy rains in Baltimore caused a washout of a retaining wall, causing multiple cars to plunge down into a flooded railway line.


Figure 3. View of the Charles Village, Baltimore retaining wall collapse near 26th St on April 30, 2014. There were no injuries, but at least six cars plunged down onto the CSX railroad tracks below. According to meteorologist Justin Berk, who took the photo, local residents said they have had concerns about this wall for a long time.

Two EF-4 tornadoes from the outbreak
At least two EF-4 tornadoes have been surveyed so far from the outbreak, and there may be others once damage surveys are complete:

Vilonia, Arkansas: A violent high-end EF-4 tornado with winds of 180 - 190 mph tore through Vilonia and Mayflower, Arkansas on April 27, killing 15 people. This tornado was also the widest (3/4 mile) and longest lived (60 minutes) twister of the outbreak. There is a report that the tornado picked up a truck in Mayflower and deposited it in a field northeast of Vilonia, 27 miles away. Update: When contacted about this again by a reporter, the man who's car was transported admitted some confusion about where his car had been parked at the time of the tornado, so this remarkable story is dubious.

Louisville, Mississippi: An EF-4 with 185 mph winds hit Louisville, Mississippi on April 28. The tornado killed nine people, carved a path 35 miles long and up to 3/4 mile wide, and stayed on the ground for 56 minutes. The tornado carried a door 30 miles from Louisville and deposited it on the Mississippi State University campus.

The longest path tornado of the event was an EF-1 twister with a path length of 46 miles that stayed on the ground 46 minutes, and killed two people near Martinsburg and Kinross, Iowa on April 27.


Figure 4. Volunteers help clean up debris where homes once stood after the area was hit by a tornado April 29, 2014 in Vilonia, Arkansas. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)


Video 2. Aerial drone footage of tornado damage from April 28, 2014 in Bessemer, Alabama just west of Birmingham. The EF-2 tornado with maximum winds of 120 mph stayed on the ground 4.9 miles and hit a golf course and an apartment complex, with a near miss of the Bessemer Hospital. It’s remarkable to see the huge number of trees pulled out by their roots. According to an article in Forbes, “The FAA claims the broad authority to prohibit the ‘commercial’ use of drones, and has included the use of drones for journalism or search and rescue under that ban. The FAA’s determination comes despite having lost an enforcement action at the administrative judge level….Despite the clear value of drones in disaster response and search and rescue operations, one search and rescue group based out of Texas has been forbidden from flying their drones in search and rescue operations, prompting them to sue the federal government. That case has sent a message to all would be search and rescue groups, letting them know they should keep their drones grounded, lest they face fines for trying to help find lost persons.”

U.S. billion-dollar weather-related disasters of 2014
1) The January 5 - 8 "Polar Vortex" winter weather outbreak, which Aon Benfield estimated caused $3 billion in damage.
2) The California drought, with $3.6 billion in agricultural damages so far, as estimated by the California Farm Water Coalition.
3) Severe weather outbreak of April 27 - 30, which Aon Benfield estimated caused $1+ billion in damage.

Disaster Relief Donations Needed
The devastation from this week’s tornadoes have brought a need for donations for disaster relief. The Portlight.org disaster relief charity, founded by members of the wunderground community, is supporting the efforts of a group of local volunteers in Arkansas doing search and rescue, and needs donations. Portlight volunteers are working in tornado-hit towns to clear debris and help with other clean-up efforts. This team will also be visiting shelters and reaching out to survivors with disabilities to determine their immediate needs, whether for replacement of durable medical equipment and ramps, or for assistance with shelter and transportation issues. The Red Cross is also a great place to send your donation dollars.

This will likely be my last post until Tuesday afternoon, as I plan on taking a few days off.

Jeff Masters

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something to watch in a week in Oklahoma...
might be a severe threat, but it can also help a bit with the drought there
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Quoting 1245. wxchaser97:

Pffft, I got a cumulative 3.989 GPA and I'm still going strong. Have all A's this semester with half of my classes being AP/honors/advanced classes and the other half being required ones. I see some slackers here :P


it usually takes a 3.8 gpa to get into the college im going to, but i somehow lucked in with a 3.2
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Quoting wxchaser97:
Pffft, I got a cumulative 3.989 GPA and I'm still going strong. Have all A's this semester with half of my classes being AP/honors/advanced classes and the other half being required ones. I see some slackers here :P


Your GPA would die if you came to my school, mister fraidy cat of the AP Lang test.

Not that I'm excusing myself. I've become rather disinterested in the last few years with my schooling, and emotional pains due to hormonal influences, HS dating atmosphere, and the remnants of bullying from my MS years definitely do not help me out. But my GPA should be higher, a 3.5-3.8 is probably expected of someone of my caliber, but alas, I haven't filled expectations recently.
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Thought i would post this to serve as a reminder to get prepared early and not wait last minute.



Pinellas County EOC
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1247. pottery
Quoting beell:


least they got "brush" correct...
(oh! i made myself snort!!)


:):))
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Quoting 1244. KoritheMan:

Low pressure appears to be trying to consolidate roughly in the vicinity of 9N 103W. I'd be hesitant to call it a convective band, but the recent flareup of convection in the area suggests that the center is probably a bit west of the band.


If it consolidates more in the next 12 hours I would expect invest status.
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Quoting 1205. Astrometeor:



Since I have a 3.25 HS GPA, yea I call that decent. Congrats on surviving your freshman year of college, Kyle.
Quoting 1210. TropicalAnalystwx13:


Your HS GPA and my college GPA are the same. I had a 3.8 until last semester came in like a wrecking ball.
Quoting 1215. TropicalAnalystwx13:


No, they're not offered, but all high school classes at my school are honors by default.

P.S. Why are you telling me something I already know?
Pffft, I got a cumulative 3.989 GPA and I'm still going strong. Have all A's this semester with half of my classes being AP/honors/advanced classes and the other half being required ones. I see some slackers here :P
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Low pressure appears to be trying to consolidate roughly in the vicinity of 9N 103W. I'd be hesitant to call it a convective band, but the recent flareup of convection in the area suggests that the center is probably a bit west of the band.
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Quoting 1242. beell:



least they got "brush" correct...
(oh! i made myself snort!!)


xD
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1242. beell
Quoting 1240. pottery:


Those poor hoes…….


least they got "brush" correct...
(oh! i made myself snort!!)
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1241. Skyepony (Mod)
CIMSS Satellite blog did an excellent write up on the MCS that flooded the Pensacola, Gulf Shores area. Pretty interesting was this Suomi NPP capture.

As we have seen with previous cases of strong convection exhibiting intense overshooting tops, nighttime Suomi NPP VIIRS 0.7 um Day/Night Band imagery (below) showed that this MCS produced a large pattern of concentric mesospheric airglow waves that could be seen traveling away from the storm for a considerable distance.

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1240. pottery
Quoting beell:
...Oklahoma City firefighters have sent one battalion chief, three brush pumper trucks and two tankers to help battle the wild fire. Edmond police officers also responded to the scene to help evacuate mobile hoes that were in the path of the fire...
www.news9.com

Those poor hoes…….
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Pott full agreement here..
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1238. beell
...Oklahoma City firefighters have sent one battalion chief, three brush pumper trucks and two tankers to help battle the wild fire. Edmond police officers also responded to the scene to help evacuate mobile hoes that were in the path of the fire...
www.news9.com
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1237. pottery
Quoting sar2401:

Oh, you're just an old Luddite like...umm...well...me. I guess all this cool new stuff is just lost on geezers like us. Actually, I can hear the webbies saying that right now in the break room. :-)

LOLOL.
But from the ongoing flak the new site is getting around here, it all sounds like change for change's sake.
I've seen very few posts raving about the new site.
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Shear starting to decrease over our little disturbance.

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Auburn and Sky swing in for a flyby visit..Skyepony now that I've finally got the chance to say: All these years you have got to be the most level headed out of the drama, blogger here, there is ..hope all is working for the better on your uncle's property with the fracking moving to town..
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1234. sar2401
Quoting PedleyCA:


Oops, who was saying earlier that this was because if the low humidity and high temperature?

Well, it probably did get out of control because of the winds and low humidity. Of course, I do remember living in another state where you had to get a permit for a controlled burn, and it's not very likely you'd get one with the conditions today. But, as I've been told many times, "We don't things like that down here, boy". :-)
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1233. pottery
Quoting sar2401:

Ah...a controlled burn on a day with 40 mph winds and 4% humidity. Makes perfect sense to me.

Sounds like a ''hold my beer and watch this'' moment to me.
Crazy.
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1232. sar2401
Quoting pottery:

I'm still on 'classic'.
Everything works, and everything is fine.
It's as good a site as it always was.
I can't see a reason to change.

Oh, you're just an old Luddite like...umm...well...me. I guess all this cool new stuff is just lost on geezers like us. Actually, I can hear the webbies saying that right now in the break room. :-)
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Quoting 1214. Astrometeor:

Record upset watch for tomorrow. NWS set the high for tomorrow to be 88 degrees. Considering they were 5 degrees off for today...that could translate to a high of 93 for tomorrow.

The record high for tomorrow?

May 5 has 93F in 1952.

Nashville Climate Data


NWS Nashville is going little higher than MOS already (usually warmer GFS at 87, usually cooler NAM at 85), though. Usually MOS underestimate the high during summer and very rarely you go past 2-3 degrees above GFS MOS from what I've seen in WxChallenge. GFS MOS yesterday had today at 85 so that 2-3 degrees rule I got still holds. Also worth noting winds will be pretty high. As result, I would personally go with 89 for tomorrow.
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if you have not yet done so stop buy my EPAC Storm Scorecard oh ever post there over night I will add you in the AM maxWeather is takeing care of the gulf and elsewhere I will be takeing care of the EPAC so come on buy you have in tell june 1st that is when it closed


Link
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Quoting 1225. Doppler22:

910PM: #Guthrie Fire: 3k to 4k Acres, at least 6 occupied structures burned, lots of traffic in area, fire caused by controlled burn.
@TxStormChasers


Oops, who was saying earlier that this was because if the low humidity and high temperature?
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1228. sar2401
Quoting Astrometeor:
"The fire did result from a controlled burn."
-Chief Firefighter from the Guthrie, OK fire.

Ah...a controlled burn on a day with 40 mph winds and 4% humidity. Makes perfect sense to me.
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1227. sar2401
Quoting beell:


Women would be the notable exception, aub.
:)

Now, that's one of your better quotes, Beell...:-)
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1226. sar2401
Quoting etxwx:
US to build gasoline reserves in Northeast
May 2, 2014 by Associated Press via Fuel Fix
By Dina Cappiello
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The government is establishing its first emergency reserves of gasoline to address future fuel disruptions in the New York City area and New England like those caused by Superstorm Sandy in 2012, the Energy Department announced Friday.

The two reserves totaling 1 million gallons of gasoline will be stored in leased commercial terminals around New York Harbor and Boston, the Energy Department said. The $200 million project will be paid with proceeds from a sale of crude oil from the government’s emergency reserves on the Gulf Coast. Official said they hope to have the new gasoline reserves in place by the end of summer, before the start of the 2014 hurricane season.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz said in a conference call Friday with reporters that the facilities were part of a larger effort to prepare for the consequences of global warming and “the effects of climate change we already see occurring at home.”

The 2012 storm knocked out refineries, damaged terminals and left gasoline stations without power, leading to severe gasoline storages.

“Like sandbags and stockpiles of food and medicine, this gasoline reserve is what the Northeast needs to be ready for supercharged storms from climate change,” said Sen. Edward J. Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat.

However, the reserves have two shortcomings: They will not solve the problem of widespread power loss and flooding such as that caused by Sandy. Power is needed to operate pumps for getting gasoline into cars. And a million gallons represents only a small fraction of the 13.8 million gallons of gasoline used daily in New York state alone.

The reserves are similar to a million-gallon government reserve of diesel fuel for the Northeast. It was first tapped during Sandy to supply first responders and emergency generators during the storm.

The Energy Department also operates the Strategic Petroleum Reserve along the Gulf Cost, which stores 696 million gallons of crude oil under salt domes. It was set up after the 1973 Arab oil embargo. That reserve has only been tapped three times, most recently in June 2011 when President Barack Obama sold off some oil to deal with supply disruptions due to unrest in the Middle East.



Maybe Ernie and the boys over at the Department of Energy could get some help from NOAA getting their calendars aligned for the start of hurricane season. I feel much better though, knowing Ernie and the boys are right on top of this, especially since a million gallons of gas won't even fuel the taxis in NYC for a day. Still, it's only going to cost $200 million, which is...uhh...let's see...ah, only $200 a gallon. Really, cheap at twice the price.
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910PM: #Guthrie Fire: 3k to 4k Acres, at least 6 occupied structures burned, lots of traffic in area, fire caused by controlled burn.
@TxStormChasers
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1224. beell
Quoting 1216. auburn:

Give the new site a chance..it isn't bad...we tend to dislike what we dont understand.


Women would be the notable exception, aub.
:)
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1223. pottery
Quoting auburn:
Give the new site a chance..it isn't bad...we tend to dislike what we dont understand.

I'm still on 'classic'.
Everything works, and everything is fine.
It's as good a site as it always was.
I can't see a reason to change.
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"The fire did result from a controlled burn."
-Chief Firefighter from the Guthrie, OK fire.
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1221. sar2401
Quoting Astrometeor:
Record upset watch for tomorrow. NWS set the high for tomorrow to be 88 degrees. Considering they were 5 degrees off for today...that could translate to a high of 93 for tomorrow.

The record high for tomorrow?

May 5 has 93F in 1952.

Nashville Climate Data

My official record was 89. My high today was 97, so we pretty much destroyed that record, which was set in 2012. Record for tomorrow is 90, also set in 2012, so the only real question is what time of day do we break the record. Not having lived in the desert in a long time, I had forgotten how fast temperatures can fall after sunset with this dry air...well, dry air for us, anyway. Low RH was 21% and it's 50% now. The temperature one hour ago was 83 and it's now at 68. I'm going to take Radar Dog for a walk, and it's actually chilly enough I'll take a light jacket. Strange weather for SE Alabama.
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1220. etxwx
US to build gasoline reserves in Northeast
May 2, 2014 by Associated Press via Fuel Fix
By Dina Cappiello
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The government is establishing its first emergency reserves of gasoline to address future fuel disruptions in the New York City area and New England like those caused by Superstorm Sandy in 2012, the Energy Department announced Friday.

The two reserves totaling 1 million gallons of gasoline will be stored in leased commercial terminals around New York Harbor and Boston, the Energy Department said. The $200 million project will be paid with proceeds from a sale of crude oil from the government’s emergency reserves on the Gulf Coast. Official said they hope to have the new gasoline reserves in place by the end of summer, before the start of the 2014 hurricane season.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz said in a conference call Friday with reporters that the facilities were part of a larger effort to prepare for the consequences of global warming and “the effects of climate change we already see occurring at home.”

The 2012 storm knocked out refineries, damaged terminals and left gasoline stations without power, leading to severe gasoline storages.

“Like sandbags and stockpiles of food and medicine, this gasoline reserve is what the Northeast needs to be ready for supercharged storms from climate change,” said Sen. Edward J. Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat.

However, the reserves have two shortcomings: They will not solve the problem of widespread power loss and flooding such as that caused by Sandy. Power is needed to operate pumps for getting gasoline into cars. And a million gallons represents only a small fraction of the 13.8 million gallons of gasoline used daily in New York state alone.

The reserves are similar to a million-gallon government reserve of diesel fuel for the Northeast. It was first tapped during Sandy to supply first responders and emergency generators during the storm.

The Energy Department also operates the Strategic Petroleum Reserve along the Gulf Cost, which stores 696 million gallons of crude oil under salt domes. It was set up after the 1973 Arab oil embargo. That reserve has only been tapped three times, most recently in June 2011 when President Barack Obama sold off some oil to deal with supply disruptions due to unrest in the Middle East.

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1219. bappit
A frontal zone stretches from Cuba up to near Ireland. The southern end was over Yucatan a day or so ago. The far northern end hasn't budged. (This image will update.)

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

No, they're not offered, but all high school classes at my school are honors by default.

P.S. Why are you telling me something I already know?


Just in case you needed a reminder. Ain't I a nice guy?
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Quoting 1213. Astrometeor:



But you're smarter Cody.

:p

Do you take AP courses over there in NC?


At my high school, we had AP courses. I took five of them.
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1216. auburn (Mod)
Give the new site a chance..it isn't bad...we tend to dislike what we dont understand.
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Quoting 1213. Astrometeor:



But you're smarter Cody.

:p

Do you take AP courses over there in NC?

No, they're not offered, but all high school classes at my school are honors by default.

P.S. Why are you telling me something I already know?
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Record upset watch for tomorrow. NWS set the high for tomorrow to be 88 degrees. Considering they were 5 degrees off for today...that could translate to a high of 93 for tomorrow.

The record high for tomorrow?

May 5 has 93F in 1952.

Nashville Climate Data
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Your HS GPA and my college GPA are the same. I had a 3.8 until last semester came in like a wrecking ball.


But you're smarter Cody.

:p

Do you take AP courses over there in NC?
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1212. sar2401
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Your HS GPA and my college GPA are the same. I had a 3.8 until last semester came in like a wrecking ball.

LOL. You guys crack me up. I had to get a straight 4.0 in my senior year of college to get an overall 3.0 GPA, so I'd have half a chance of getting into grad school. Sounds like y'all are doing just fine compared to me. :-)
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1211. sar2401
Quoting johnmc318:
The new site seriously sucks.... I was unaware of the classic site still working, hopefully it still will for a while

Dr. Masters is the guy who made sure Classic was (and is) still supported. It works fine, and hasn't changed appreciably since I joined in 2004. You won't find a guy who dislikes the new site any more than me, but I'm not going to throw out the baby with the bathwater. This is still one of the best sites to quickly get the weather information you need while having all kinds of things in addition when you're in the mood to hunt around. Compared to other weather sites, we still have the most knowledgeable bloggers I've seen. If you don't like GW stuff, just ignore it and take what you do like. Up to you if you decide to abandon the site, but there are a lot of people who are not on your side of the fence.
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Quoting 1205. Astrometeor:



Since I have a 3.25 HS GPA, yea I call that decent. Congrats on surviving your freshman year of college, Kyle.

Your HS GPA and my college GPA are the same. I had a 3.8 until last semester came in like a wrecking ball.
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Map of area that's being evacuated near Guthrie due to #wildfire.
‏@keatonfox
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Quoting 1203. johnmc318:

The new site seriously sucks.... I was unaware of the classic site still working, hopefully it still will for a while

But I am just about done with weather underground.. I remember finding this site back before Hurricane Katrina and Rita, and thought that this was the best weather site on the web, now it's trying to be all flashy and it seams like Dr masters is pushing his view on "Global Warming" in every blog post... I know this is his blog and he has the right to do it, but why every one?? you only used to do it seldom.. focusing more on current weather events than politics...

Ever since Masters "Sold out" to the weather channel, this site has gone downhill... Really wish it hadn't but it is what it is...

Main reason for this comment is to let the web team here know my dissatisfaction with the new "updates".. If somethings not broke, don't fix it... If you want flashy go to the weather channel (BTW, I do not trust anything they say.. They are more worried about ratings and entertainment than weather IMO), and if you want what this site used to offer..

Good luck with your future weather underground.. You have lost me and I would bet quite a few more....

Everything that was on the site then is still on here now, and then some. If you're leaving because the site got a design change, that's your issue.
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Quoting 1205. Astrometeor:



Since I have a 3.25 HS GPA, yea I call that decent. Congrats on surviving your freshman year of college, Kyle.


The thing is my GPA will rise from now with more meteorology classes and less non-major classes that I need for liberal arts degree. I've gone 3/3 with A in my meteorology classes so far. GPA dropped from 3.4 first semester because of Chemistry and Latin, but I'm in a great shape right now. My goal is to graduate with at least 3.0 GPA so I can qualify for grad schools right after my senior year.
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Quoting Bluestorm5:
Just to let y'all know that tonight is my final night in Asheville. After taking my Chemistry exam first thing tomorrow, my freshman year of college will be complete while on track with decent GPA (if you call 3.1 or 3.2 decent) and go back home for the summer. I'm ready to take a break from school and enjoy my summer :)


Since I have a 3.25 HS GPA, yea I call that decent. Congrats on surviving your freshman year of college, Kyle.
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Just to let y'all know that tonight is my final night in Asheville. After taking my Chemistry exam first thing tomorrow, my freshman year of college will be complete while on track with decent GPA (if you call 3.1 or 3.2 decent) and go back home for the summer. I'm ready to take a break from school and enjoy my summer :)
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The new site seriously sucks.... I was unaware of the classic site still working, hopefully it still will for a while

But I am just about done with weather underground.. I remember finding this site back before Hurricane Katrina and Rita, and thought that this was the best weather site on the web, now it's trying to be all flashy and it seams like Dr masters is pushing his view on "Global Warming" in every blog post... I know this is his blog and he has the right to do it, but why every one?? you only used to do it seldom.. focusing more on current weather events than politics...

Ever since Masters "Sold out" to the weather channel, this site has gone downhill... Really wish it hadn't but it is what it is...

Main reason for this comment is to let the web team here know my dissatisfaction with the new "updates".. If somethings not broke, don't fix it... If you want flashy go to the weather channel (BTW, I do not trust anything they say.. They are more worried about ratings and entertainment than weather IMO), and if you want what this site used to offer..

Good luck with your future weather underground.. You have lost me and I would bet quite a few more....
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1201. sar2401
Quoting EstherD:

I cannot explain how the new-WU site scripting problem generated the error  message(s) you saw that referred to Java. I've seen the scripting problem, too, but the error message from Firefox says nothing about Java. I do know with a fairly high degree of certainty that Java is not used at all (or at least not required) by the new site. How? Because it runs just fine on all of my Macs and PCs, NONE of which have Java installed. (And besides, I've peeked at the actual page code. ;)

OK, so what do you think is causing the script errors that many users have reported? There certainly doesn't seem to have been any fix that has eliminated the issue. It seems that FF and version 9 and lower of IE blow up the most frequently. Chrome seems to work with fewest, but not zero, problems. I suspect it has something to do with their implementation of rich text, since I can reliably replicate the script errors (and there are several different types) if a rich text post is quoted as the first post at the top of a page if I have more than 50 posts selected to be displayed. It also seems that javascript calls to google-analytics cause errors depending on what's being displayed in a reply box. But I'm just guessing.
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