Wind-blown reporters

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:46 PM GMT on December 23, 2005

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It's an ingrained part of the media-presented spectacle of hurricane coverage: a wind-blown reporter struggles against stinging rain and buffeting winds to breathlessly deliver his or her dramatic story. It's been an integral part of hurricane reporting ever since Dan Rather first made a name for himself with his dramatic reporting from Galveston's seawall during Hurricane Carla in 1961--the first time that television news did live hurricane coverage. But with several reporters narrowly escaping serious injury during coverage of this year's hurricanes, a backlash against this type of reporting is starting to emerge. I, for one, am tired of seeing reporters foolishly risking their lives for a breathless sound bite. I would far prefer that they do their story from safe shelter. They could stick a long pole with a telephone book on it out into the wind and watch it get shredded for drama! Or chuck frisbees into the wind, or have wind up toys march into the tempest and get blown away, or a host of other creative things. Reporters need not be put at risk!

A December 18 article in the Miami Herald reported on the first case I've heard of where a complaint was filed to OSHA over reporters' safety during hurricane coverage:

WSVN staffers wonder who filed an anonymous complaint against the station with the U.S. Labor Department's Occupational Safety & Health Administration (OSHA) over reporters' safety during hurricane coverage. Luis Santiago, OSHA's area director, confirms the complaint came in Sept. 20 -- a few weeks after Hurricane Katrina.

The allegation: field reporters were exposed to possible injury because they were not provided with safety glasses, face shields, gloves, respiratory protection from flying sand, hard hats and personal flotation devices.

The station's business manager, Diane Jaramillo-Guard, responded "satisfactorily" to OSHA and the case is closed, Santiago says. But, he adds, workers' safety is always of utmost concern. "Management should make very clear to all employees -- no job is so important that you would put yourself in harm's way."

At the upcoming annual meeting of the American Meteorology Society in Atlanta in early February, a special 3-hour communication workshop has been set up to explore this issue, which I hope to attend. Here's the workshop announcement:

Media coverage of land-falling hurricanes has been scrutinized and debated, and even been the subject of humor columns and the op-ed pages. Why are reporters strapped to trees in order to bring viewers images of roofs and street signs hurling through the air or standing ankle deep on the beach talking about dangerous surf and storm surge? Is this just sensational journalism or proving valuable news coverage?

The Fifth Communication Workshop will take a closer look at hurricane coverage from several different perspectives: the broadcast meteorologist who covers the storms from the stations weather studio, the reporter standing on the beach during 75 mph winds, and the executive decision maker who sends the reporter to the beach. If you have a gripe about media coverage during hurricanes or severe weather and want to see better science coverage, this is the time to share your thoughts and insights.

Speakers include Peter Dykstra, executive producer for Science, Technology, Space, Environment, and Weather at CNN; Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center; Bob Breck, chief meteorologist at WVUE-TV in New Orleans, LA; Greg Agvent, director of planning at CNN; and Terry Connelly, senior vice president/general manager, The Weather Channel Network.


I'll be back next week with some observations on this winter's weather. The climate change blogs will resume after January 1.

Have a great Christmas, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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119. Dudeboy
11:30 PM GMT on December 31, 2005
Well, all I can do is scratch my head and ponder...
Here we are, about to begin a new year. Lets hope it's good for all of us.
After reading many of the comments, opinions, bioigraphies, and other submissions to this blog, I have concluded the following:
Rain is good,but not too much or too little. In moderation. Hurricanes are not entirely bad, just bad for people and some other animals. There is no volume control. They cause damage and death. I have no fascination wih that. I feel sorry for the families who lost loved ones.
The fury and power that mother nature can bring forth is what sculpts the land features of our planet, we just happen to be in the way sometimes.
You could be drowning thousands of ants by turning your lawn sprinklers on.
I've felt the effects of hurricanes, but never a direct hit. I remember a Belle, and a Gloria. Others with names long forgotten.
If I was living below sea level, I would expect a flood someday. That may sound crass, but think about it. Even Ducks know enough to make the nest higher then the water.
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118. TampaSteve
6:44 PM GMT on December 30, 2005
THE NHC HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WARNING FOR YOUR AREA...HIGH WINDS, HEAVY RAIN, AND LARGE NUMBERS OF REPORTERS IN YELLOW SLICKERS CAN BE EXPECTED IN YOUR AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ALL PREPARATIONS TO AVOID JIM CANTORE SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.
117. Inyo
4:48 PM GMT on December 27, 2005
KRWZ:

Rainfall Map (click on CA)
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116. MarcKeys
3:14 PM GMT on December 27, 2005
Link

I think the storm chasers have served their purpose and this should no longer continue. Every year they try to get more and more dramatic shots and eventually some one is going to be killed.
115. seflagamma
1:58 PM GMT on December 27, 2005
Good morning to all of you here in Dr Master's Blog....
Have a great day...thanks for all of you input!
Gamma
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114. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
1:49 PM GMT on December 27, 2005
wow forgive the oops in my typing so sorry about that
113. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
1:46 PM GMT on December 27, 2005
dos any one no how march rian has ca see i the last 2 weeks or so my storms keep going and going and going i am thikung that the valley saw 2-8inch of rain in the last 2 weeks andthe foothills a foot or more of rain in the last 2 week and i think the % for sac ca is at %110 up to %150 or higher then that so if any one no this ? let me no and thank you
112. Inyo
9:16 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
lightning10, i think the jetstream is finally sagging south and we will be getting some good rain after this week, like i was thinking earlier. i dont think you can really say much about the new years storm yet since it is out towards Japan.. the one offshore is a storm that is expected Wednesday in largely Northern california (it was expected to weaken in its southern portion and not impact so-cal). However, those of you in northern california are going to get a lot more rain.

im some ways, this weather pattern is like the one last year, a little less southerly trajectory if anything... it is just a bit further north. all we need is for the high to shift slightly east or south (as predicted) and we will be getting a string of strong storms.

of course, its a ways off and you could be right about it being just drizzle.. but my 'gut feeling' is that the rainy season is goin to start for real after Friday.
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111. hurricanechaser
8:33 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
Hey Skepony,

Thank you for signing up and leaving an excellent comment regarding the Katrina categorization in Tonys (tornadoty) blog.:)
110. Skyepony (Mod)
7:56 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
I got to thinking more about the live cams on the planes~ of course there is the lack of money, but the media could fund these. It would give NWS something to adhear to the partnership policy. That unique thing public industy could produce & NWS not duplicate, to further the nation's weather industy enterprise. Of course we'd need to adhear to the policy of the gov't deciding the final approval on what the NWS passes on to the media.
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109. hurricanechaser
4:18 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
Here's the link to tornadoty's blog to sign the petition for the NHC to reinstate Katrina to category four status.:)

Thanks,
Tony


Link


108. hurricanechaser
4:14 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
Hey everyone,

I simply wanted to take a moment to encourage anyone and everyone who feels that hurricane Katrina was unjustly downgraded from category four to category three status even though the NHC states in their report that category four sustained winds likely occurred in extreme La. to please vist the blog of tornadoty and sign a petition that He is organizing and will send to the NHC. Please feel free to state your own personal reasons why you believe it should be reinstated as a category four landfall or simply post a comment in tornadoty's blog saying, "sign me up".:)

Thanks so much,
Tony


107. hurricanechaser
3:36 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
Hey everyone,

I can let you guys know that Mark Sudduth with hurricanetrack.com began setting up live webcams to capture the surge and peak conditions for each hurricane landfall beginning with hurricane Ivan in 2004. In Katrina, these webcams located in the Waveland and Gulfport areas that were housed in waterproof casing were each lost and never retreived. hE even offered a huge reward for anyone who found one and made a second trip to he Gulf coast to hopefully found them. Unfortunately, they were lost for good as a result of the enormous surge. He is currently attempting to modify this project with the aforementioned being the goal. There is noone else who is doing this.

I hope everyone is having a great night.:)

Thanks,
Tony


106. Skyepony (Mod)
1:59 AM GMT on December 27, 2005
jnovicoff~ i'd love to see live cam on the hurricane hunter's planes.

gippgig ~the idea of the cams watchin the surge come in was great too. I was quite disappointed when the burbon street crew took the cams with them to higher ground before Katrina. I guess it would be up to the media to lose cams for advertising money though. ~ thanks for the lightnin rod grounding idea for hanging the wind sensor. i'm pretty excited about getting to measure the gusts on our farm.

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105. tornadoty
9:18 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
Thank you lightning10!!!!!!
104. lightning10
9:08 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
Ok I signed it.
Also there is know 0.08 inches of rain in the bucket. I think thats going to be it cause the cold front is going to pass over real soon and behind it is nothing but cool dry air. The New years day storm looks like the tail end is falling apart. Then after that another weak little weather system shouldnt bring more then a chance of drizzle into the foothills of Southern California. If anything we will get more drizzle and overcast weather then rain.
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103. jnovikoff
8:06 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
I gues nobody thought my idea of a live webcam in the NOAA reconnaisance aircraft was a good idea because nobody here commented on it. When they get the money, I'm sure the dropsondes will come with cameras as well.

A journalist should always wear goggles and a flak jacket in a storm and show the viewer he is out their voluntarily in writing.

TV should start getting some basic ethics and quit doing it just because there is an audience waiting. PBS rules and is the future of all television.
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102. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
4:49 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
lightning10 how are you today to make your comment for the nhc you come to my blog or tornadoty blog to make your commet and thank you so march
101. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
4:41 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
WOW!
100. lightning10
3:59 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
So happy today we got 0.01 inches of rain. Man what a storm it was. There are 2-3 more storms lined up in the parade of week storms that will move near or into Southern California. I want more rain.

I will sign that pention by the way.
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99. Randyman
3:33 PM GMT on December 26, 2005
...Excuse me Califonia I meant:At that particular time...
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98. Randyman
3:28 PM GMT on December 26, 2005

Sorry Califonia and HurricaneChaser I didn't mean to spark another debate over StormTop...
Yes HurricaneChaser I agree with you regarding StormTop's attitude:

Posted By: Randyman at 7:35 PM GMT on August 10, 2005.

...As a footnote: let's try to be a little more professional on this blog without the personal attacks. I enjoy talking about the weather everyday, all day so it is a great pleasure to me to have these type of discussions. So if everyone would please be more mindful of this for the remainder of this hurricane season. Let's keep this fun and informative. And yes StormTop this refers to you as well. As you see I have just gave you credit for many things you have said recently so you do indeed know quite a bit about hurricanes. However, try to remain courteous to others without all of the condescending comments. You never know, you may actually hurt someone's feelings in the process.

May God bless you guys and I'll be back later on.

Posted By: Randyman at 1:11 AM GMT on August 11, 2005.

...Oh and by the way, thanks everyone for the kind words from earlier. You see the way I see it some people write poems for a hobby; some play sports for fun; others make music as that thing that fulfills them the most...well, obviously our fulfillment comes from observing and discussing the weather on a daily basis...we are unique group of people with a common interest so let's make it an enjoyable experience for everyone involved.

...Also, everyone needs to understand that the NHC has entities that will always influence and skew the information put forth within its post-storm reports. There indeed exists political/special interest groups that will indirectly determine what the NHC will conclude within its reports. The NHC and others will deny this fact, but we should no better. ie. Hurricane Andrew and Hurricane Katrina.


Posted By: Califonia at 7:37 PM GMT on December 24, 2005.

Randy, the answer is "YES". STORMTOP had this storm NAILED before it even formed. This (edited) post is from when it was moving north in the Atlantic, before it became TD12. Note that he was already calling the move SW to interact with S. Florida, plus development to Cat 5 with Louisiana as the target:

And no Califonia, not even StormTop could have given me a heads-up...when I mentioned "Little did I know at the time this would be our last trip to New Orleans for a long time and how so many there would so adversely affected by this system...my wife's family and friends are still recovering from the aftermath...me being me, I can't help but to wonder if there is anything I could have possibly foresaw that far out in the development of TD #10 at that time in which I could have at least forewarned my inlaws of the forthcoming danger...of course the answer is no...no one could have ever imagined that TD#10 would become what it eventually became..."I meant for that particular weekend I was in New Orleans. At that particular, no one had any idea what was to come at the end of the month...not even the infamous StormTop who seem to bring every storm toward LA as a CAT 5.

Anyhow, it just goes to show we have a long ways to go when it comes to hurricane forecasting.


Everyone take care and have a Happy New Year.


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97. Califonia
6:56 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
To: Hurricanechaser

Tony, you were certainly right on at least 2 counts.

1. Katrina was not 170 to 180 mph at landfall.
2. STORMTOP could be agressive and abrasive with those who berated him for his predictions. I think anyone who was on the blog at that time would agree with that statement, friend or foe.

Still, I'm impressed with his predictions on Katrina, and I'm looking forward to your thoughts concerning the NHC predictions on it.

Thanks for your input on this blog, on your own blog and on other blogs. You have spent a lot of time and given us lots of valuable information - I'm sure I speak for others in expressing my/our appreciation.

96. hurricanechaser
6:43 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Hey Tony (tornadoty),

I can appreciate your logic in considering Wilma as possibly being a category four at south Fl. landfall. However, I can confidently say that I don't think there should be any modification to her intensity on the SW coast. On the other hand, I do believe the intensity should be readjusted for the Eastern Fl. coastline up to 110-115 mph which would have her as at least a minimal category three for all of the most affected areas of South Florida.

The reason I don't believe there is much reason for classifying her as a category four comes from various thoughts. First of all, I was there for Wilmas first half about 5-10 miles inland of Marco Island and in Everglades City for the stronger second half. I would estimate winds in the 85-90 mph range for the first half in the NW quadrant, and there were recorded winds between 105-116 mph in Everglades City for the second half.

Secondly, Wilma had entrained a little dry air on her SE side as she was coming ashore which caused her to be listed as a 120 mph category three about 30 minutes after official landfall. The strongest portion of the storm which of course was the NE quadrant, came ashore in the Everglades. As a result, there were no observations in the uninhabited swampland. If you look at the NWS radar from the Miami site as it moved inland through the Everglades, her eyewall not only remained well intacted, but also filled back in on the SE side. Consequently, she didn't weaken much moving acrossed South Florida as she was over the swampy low lying everglades. Even though the NE quadrant wasn't observable for the SW region, this wasn't the case for the East coast as she roared out of the Everglades with minimal category three force in my opinion. The peak wind gusts were in the 120 mph range throughout a broad area of east central and SE Fl. There was quite a bit of wind damage, but that should be expected for a category three storm, especially one hitting a very populated metropoltian area like areas From Palm Beach to Miami Beach. Not to mention that winds are usually enhanced in such ares by a funneling of the winds between high rise buildings. Likewise, these highrise buildings are more exposed to stronger winds above the ground as well which led to countless windows being blown out of these buildings. Much of the damage was to mobile homes, roofs, and over a large portion of metropoltian areas in Naples on the SW coast through Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, and other built up areas where there is alot to be battered by these powerful category three winds. Therefore, the damage is very consistent with a category three storm for such areas but not for a 135 mph category four. If we would have had a category four on the same track, it would have been extremely disastrous. We would have most likely seen 135-145 mph gusts in the large metropolitian areas of Eastern Fl. which would've caused twice as much damage than the incredible wind damage that already occurred.

I hope you have a great night and also had a very Merry Christmas as well.:)

Your friend,
Tony


95. gippgig
6:42 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
A metal rod, if properly grounded (consult a professional), would be a lightning rod & would actually protect the surrounding area. Just mount the wind sensor a few feet below the top of the rod.

I think automatic cameras are the best way to cover hurricane landfalls. Put one right at the coast & let the storm surge destroy it. The video should be useful to the meteorologists as well as interesting to the general public.
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94. Skyepony (Mod)
6:01 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Hi all, been busy, but lurking...

On this matter i think back most recently to Wilma, when i think on Fox, a most exciting moment, a reporter hurdles a piece of 4'X4' tin, flying along at foot level. Yeah, it makes for some exciting tv & i'm sure a few of those reporters feel like they're getting payed to play in the 'canes, but yeah guess the example isn't good for our unknowing tourists, risk of life on live tv & it does lack creativity. i still wonder if the flying tin wasn't staged. pier cams are good (is it gonna fall), how about crash dumbies out there strapped to a tree? ...oh those shingles are really pelting him hard. according to our computers, his readings are critical, multible contusions to the dummy, particularly his head.

Christmas was good to me, got a home weather station. My quandry is mounting the wind sensor, preferably at 33', on a "mast .63"-1.3" in diamater". My 1st thought~ metal rod, my 2nd~ i live in a most severe lightning area. what to do...
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93. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
5:53 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
if any one has not yet post a comment for the K storm come to my blog or tornadoty to post you comment we need 6 more so we can send it and it was no caat 3 at fris land fall this to tell you so if you have not done so yet come on by and post your commment thank you
92. tornadoty
4:52 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Hey hurricanechaser, if you're still there, I was looking over the discussions from early 10/24 regarding Wilma, and considering the level of wind damage, I think there is a 5-15% chance it may have been 135 MPH at FL landfall. What do you think?
91. hurricanechaser
4:47 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Dudeboy,

I didn't get offended just clarifying in case there might be any misconceptions. In regards to donating 50%, I don't charge shipping which costs me about $4.00 per video, donate 20% to the organizations for relief ($4.00) and give 10% off most videos I sell ($2.00)plus the cost of a DVD ($2.00) which means I make $7.95 off the 19.95 purchase price which doesn't include the fact it costs me roughly $500 to complete a hurricane interception and the risk to my own life in the process. Therefore, I don't think it's appropriate for you to make such a statement that I am not donating enough when most donate nothing.

I make very little profit and there's no guarentee I can make up the cost it takes to do the interception in the first place but I am not doing it because it's financially feasiable. Since you critique my actual donations from each video I sell, how much money do you donate to these v
ictims for each hurricane landfall? I would greatly appreciate you being a little more appreciative of my sacrifice which is genuine.

What does your analogy regarding smoking mean? I'm not addicted to hurricanes and I don't appreciate your sarcasm.

Now that I think about it, this blog is totally unnecessary for who is Dr. Masters, you , or myself to make assumptions regarding the motives of those placing their lives in danger to educate and show people what the conditions are like as the storm closing in on the coastline. I agree each one of us should you comon sense and clearly explain the reasoning each is doing it. However, noone should be critisizing another when you don't know the personal motives of each reporter. I am sure there are many more important subjects we could be discussing than critisizing ones right to cover a storm. Just my own personal perspective.

Thanks,
Tony


90. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
4:13 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
hey tornadoty i got you e mail

hey hurricanechaser you got mail
89. Trouper415
3:26 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
quit smoking dudeboy. make it your new years resolutions and go cold turkey.

And just for the record, has any reporter with an organization died covering a hurricane? I dont see why you all dont like it so much.
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88. Dudeboy
3:10 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Merry Christmas! Say, here's an idea. Donate 50%! Then you'd be mak'in a real sacrifice.
I used to smoke because I thought it was cool. Now I smoke because I'm addicted. BUT I STILL SMOKE.
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87. hurricanechaser
2:59 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Hey everyone,

I forgot to mention that I also donate between 10 and 20% of the price from the sale of each documentary to the consumers choice of either the American Red Cross or Salvation Army in their name with a gift receipt for their tax records.

Thanks again,
Tony
86. hurricanechaser
2:55 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
Hey everyone,

Since Dudeboy made a comparison between tv reports and STORMCHASERS which would have to include me...I will simply reiderate why I do it. I NOW do it to help those who suffer from these destructive storms by selling my footage to various media outlets and make Live action hurricane documentaries so prople can see how dangerous hurricanes truly are so that they will not have to experience the life threatening event themselves and will choose to evacuate. This is NOW the reason I do it...to help others...it's now a job rather than the exciting thrill it used to be for me. Please read my original post about what changed my perspective in this blog. I can only speak to my own motivations and it's truly unfair forANYONE to group every reporter and storm chaser into one category because I am sure I am not the only one who looks at it from a self sacrificing perspective where I'm risking my life so someone else may choose to leave based on my footage and theirs may be saved. Regardless, I hope everyone is enjoying the rest of this most special of holidays...Christmas...the celebration of Jesus Christs birth for me personally for the purpose of eternal life for all who believe in Him as their Lord and Savior.:)

Your friend,
Tony
85. Dudeboy
2:43 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
If I see a reporter on tv doing a live shot from a hurricane, I just turn it off or change the channel. The sad thing is, people (tv watchers) get a thrill from it and they (tv producers) know it.
Maybe they are starved for attention. Maybe they got too much, and now need it all the time. "Look what I can do!"
In that respect, a storm chaser is no different then a reporter doing a live shot, thet both get paid for it.
I'd rather trap Muskrats for a living. I might get bit one day, but it's not likely that a tree or a building will fall on me. Besides, they are warm and furry and they smell good.
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84. tornadoty
1:13 AM GMT on December 26, 2005
KWRZ, you got mail.
83. hurricanechaser
11:16 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Hey everyone,

I have to go eat dinner with family and friends tonight so I want to say I feel very blessed to have so many new friends to be thankful for from this wonderful community this Christmas season and I hope each of you have a great rest of the Christmas day.:)

Your friend,
Tony


82. hurricanechaser
11:06 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Hey everyone,

Please let me begin by saying that I hope everyone is having the best Christmas possible.:)

Secondly, I am imperfect naturally like everyone else and I have to admit that my rebuttals regarding someone I have never met (STORMTOP) should stick to the issue that Califonia and I were discudssing regarding the accuracy of his predictions versus the NHC and not at any point allow my interpretation of ones personal demeanor toward others that I don't like to be part of the discussion. As a result, I want to ask all who have read those inappropriste and unnecessary remarks to please forgive me and relay as much to STORMTOP if you see him.:)

Califonia,

I got your email and I wil respond to you via that process.:)

I may have misunderstood you and I will have to take the time to reread our posts for I thought you were implying it would have been better to have STORMTOP forecasting hurricanes rather than the professionals which to me is absurd if anyone were to think such a thing. It was by no means to be a personal issue regarding one person although I made it one unnecessarily with some personal things I noticed in the link I though were both totally unnecessary and belittling to others who have a right to their personal forecasts as well. It's like saying its ok for him to call others views idiotic, etc. which I believe is very unjustified. Noone on here should refer to anyone in that manner when they have the guts to post a prediction. Secondly, would anyone think its ok for people to refer to STORMTOP as an idiot for some of his truly bizaree forecasts this season for other storms. Although, I don't think the record shows he outperformed the NHC in this case either. It is entirely possible for anyone to guess that a storm moving into South Fl. with a weakening High retreating to the west late in the forecast period five days out to make a landfall somewhere along the Northern Gulf coast specifically not going to either Texas nor Florida which leaves the small area of Alabama which is hard to hit from such a trajectory and strong high in lace and focuses on eastern La. and Mississippi based on odds alone. The fact is he forecasts a 180 mph category five LANDFALL...did not happen. and the devastation that resulted was not the result of 180 mph winds as he was predicting. Less than 2 days out he was saying New Orleans is off the hook..and predicting the 180 mph category five landfall in Gulfport, MS. and not saying a SE la. landfal first followed by a Gulfport, MS. landfall either at a time the NHC had it going right over NEW ORLEANS, La. and not as a category five 180 mph landfall.

Just because someone predicts the extreme event for each storm like St. Simonsguy noted with Emily and Dennis as category fives in La. as well. He is bound to get one somewhat right once in awhile but nowhere close to the NHC.

Simply my opinions and not to be directly representative of my personal opinions of him as an individual. The issue was about him being more capable from the outset than profesionals like the NHC.

I will discuss the rest with you Califonia strictly on the record via email and once again I ask that you accept my sincerest apologies for including my personal opnion of his actions topward others.

Thanks,
Tony

81. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
10:45 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Hurricanechaser mail for you!
80. Califonia
10:21 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
To: Hurricanechaser

Hey Tony, I sent you an email - please go check it out.

79. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
5:29 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Damon85013 mail for you

tornadoty mail for you
78. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
5:21 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
hey tornadoty mail for you i like Jeff Morrow and jim cantor but it look like to me that Jeff Morrow was out there a lot this year i think he was in the D storm some where in fl
77. Damon85013
5:16 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Just want to wish you a Merry Christmas, Dr. Masters :) I no longer live on the East Coast, so the threat of tropical storms and nor'easters only applies when I visit...but I still read all of your entries and appreciate your expertise. Wishing you the best in 2006 :)

Damon
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76. tornadoty
5:11 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
I think that if they are safe about it, like The Weather Channel (with the exception of Jeff Morrow getting blown over in Wilma) and not like Fox News (Geraldo saying that he is going to stay on the seawall in Galveston for Rita and "run for it" when the surge comes, then I don't have a problem with it.
75. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
4:21 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
hey tornadoty do you think Hurricane field reporters are idiots ? i think they do a very good job when they are out there do you
74. tornadoty
4:13 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Merry Christmas David (KRWZ)!
73. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
4:02 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
jnovikoff Hurricane field reporters are idiots are not idiots they no what they are doing and they do a very good job and when it get to bad they go find a safe lol in tell the winds get to where they can go back out and do some more so next time when you look at a tv and a hurricane is come to you i am this saying if a hurricane come to you and you see jim cantor out there or cnn so do not say Hurricane field reporters are idiots they no what they are doing and i see them on tv a lot and i love it when they are out there in the hurricane doing there live updat so next time when you see them out there you look at them and see if they are idiots well they are not
72. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
3:22 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
good by 2005 good by 2005 good by 2005 get out of her 2005 you did the lool of a 2005 huuricane year this year 2005 now it is time to see you go 2005 and what hop that we have no hurricane makeing landfall in 2006 hurricane year so goood by 2005 good by 2005 and say hi to 2006 lool
71. KatrinaRitaWilmaZeta
3:17 PM GMT on December 25, 2005
Merry Christmas ever one and a hppy new year 7 days to go in tell 2006
70. jnovikoff
8:50 AM GMT on December 25, 2005
The ulitmate live report would be from the NOAA aircraft themselves. After all, isn't that what we really all want to know? That's where the 'beef' is.
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69. jnovikoff
8:46 AM GMT on December 25, 2005
Hurricane field reporters are idiots. What would really impress me is a live report from a skydiving reporter jumping into the middle of an eye and walking away from it before the latter part of the storm arrives.
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