December 2013: Earth's 3rd warmest December on Record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:36 PM GMT on January 25, 2014

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December 2013 was the globe's 3rd warmest December since records began in 1880, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), and 4th warmest, according to NASA. December 2013 was the eighth consecutive month (since May 2013) with a global monthly temperature ranking among the top 10 highest for its respective month, and the year 2013 was the 4th warmest year on record. December 2013 global land temperatures were the 5th warmest on record, and global ocean temperatures were the 7th warmest on record. Global satellite-measured temperatures in December 2013 for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were 11th or 2nd warmest in the 35-year record, according to Remote Sensing Systems and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH), respectively. Wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, has a comprehensive post on the notable weather events of December 2013 in his December 2013 Global Weather Extremes Summary.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average for December 2013, the 3rd warmest December for the globe since record keeping began in 1880. Record warmth was observed across parts of central and eastern Russia, where temperature anomalies exceeded 5°C (9°F) across a large swath of the country. Record warmth was also present in various areas of coastal and southern Africa, and sections of southern South America. It was much cooler than average across parts of central and eastern Canada, the west coast of the United States, southern Greenland, part of southeastern Asia, and most of the Middle East, with record cold temperatures (more than 5°C / 9°F below average) observed around eastern Turkey and northern Iraq. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) .

The two billion-dollar weather disasters of December 2013
Two billion-dollar weather-related disasters hit the Earth during December 2013: Winter Storm Xaver in Northern Europe, which killed 15 and did $1.5 billion in damage, and flooding in Southeast Brazil that killed 48 and did $1.4 billion in damage. These two disasters bring the world-wide tally of billion-dollar weather disasters in 2013 to 41, according to the December 2013 Catastrophe Report from insurance broker Aon Benfield. This is the highest yearly total of billion-dollar weather disasters for the globe since accurate disaster records began in 2000. The previous record highest number of billion-dollar weather disasters was 40, set in 2010. For comparison, during all of 2012, there were 27 billion-dollar weather disasters. The U.S. total in 2013 was nine, according to Aon Benfield (NOAA listed seven.)


Disaster 1. Winter Storm Xaver brought extreme winds and the second highest storm surge of the past 200 years to Northern Germany. The storm killed 15 and did $1.5 billion in damage. In this photo, we see a 14 meter (46') high, 1000 kilogram (2200 lb) Tyrannosaurus replica that was standing in front of the German climate museum Klimahaus in Bremehaven, which had the bolts which connected its base plate to the ground sheared off by the force of Xaver's winds. A peak wind gust of 78 mph (126 kph) was recorded in Bremerhaven during the storm. Image credit: Christine Sollmann and Michael Theusner of Klimahaus.


Disaster 2. Some of the worst flooding in 90 years affected parts of southeastern Brazil during the second half of December, killing at least 48 people and doing $1.4 billion in damage. Here, we see an aerial view of a flooded area in Vila Velha, Espirito Santo state, Brazil, on December 27, 2013. Image credit: YASUYOSHI CHIBA/AFP/Getty Images.

Neutral El Niño conditions continue in the equatorial Pacific
For the 21st month in row, December 2013 featured neutral El Niño conditions in the equatorial Eastern Pacific. The January 9 El Niño discussion from NOAA's Climate Prediction Center noted that "While current forecast probabilities are still greatest for ENSO-neutral by mid-summer, there is an increasing chance for the development of El Niño. None of the El Niño models predict La Niña conditions for peak hurricane season, August-September-October 2014, and 5 of 15 predict El Niño conditions. Temperatures in the equatorial Eastern Pacific need to be 0.5°C above average or warmer for three consecutive months for an El Niño episode to be declared; sea surface temperatures were -0.2°C from average as of January 25, and have been +0.1 to -0.7°C from average since April 1, 2013.

Arctic sea ice falls to 4th lowest December extent on record
Arctic sea ice extent during December was 4th lowest in the 36-year satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). Northern Hemisphere snow cover was the 8th largest in the 48-year record.

I'll have a new post on Monday discussing the impressive cold blast setting up for the eastern half of the U.S.

Jeff Masters

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1810. Grothar
5:11 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
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1809. Patrap
4:07 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1805. Dakster:
Thanks Keep.

Can anyone show me how to embed a youtube into the blog. I copy the embed code, url and nothing seems to work?


Use the "Old embed" code and bypass the image button, post embed code directly in comment box, post.
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1807. auburn (Mod)
4:06 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1805. Dakster:
Thanks Keep.

Can anyone show me how to embed a youtube into the blog. I copy the embed code, url and nothing seems to work?


Be sure to check"use old embed code"
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1806. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
4:06 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1805. Dakster:
Thanks Keep.

Can anyone show me how to embed a youtube into the blog. I copy the embed code, url and nothing seems to work?
make sure you check use old embed code before ya copy the code to embed
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1805. Dakster
4:04 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Thanks Keep.

Can anyone show me how to embed a youtube into the blog. I copy the embed code, url and nothing seems to work?
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1804. ncstorm
4:04 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1802. air360:


"precip" is so general....rain..snow...freezing rain..sleet....what could it be!? lol


its so pretty here right now..hard to imagine we are looking at some serious weather in the next 48 hours..
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1803. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
4:02 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1798. Dakster:


What is with the new Avatar and what is it?

Clicking on it doesn't help me either.


existence and the process of thought



it was peds blinking eyes avatar that made me change it I think it was the blinking eyes mostly
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1802. air360
4:00 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1801. ncstorm:
According to our NWS..conditions should start detoriating late tonight..

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
AS OF 930 AM MONDAY...WITH MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS IN THE NEAR TERM
EXPECTED LATE TONIGHT...WILL WAIT ON UPDATED GUIDANCE TO MAKE ANY
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE FORECAST. HAVE UPDATED CLOUDS AND TEMP
CURVE FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL HOURS...OTHERWISE PREVIOUS FORECAST
REMAINS ON TRACK. INITIAL GLANCE AT 12Z NAM SOUNDINGS SUGGEST
POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT PRECIP BEFORE DAYBREAK TUESDAY...ESPECIALLY
NEAR THE COAST...BUT WILL MORE FULLY EXAMINE THIS BEFORE THE NEXT
UPDATE.



"precip" is so general....rain..snow...freezing rain..sleet....what could it be!? lol
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1801. ncstorm
3:59 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
According to our NWS..conditions should start detoriating late tonight..

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
AS OF 930 AM MONDAY...WITH MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS IN THE NEAR TERM
EXPECTED LATE TONIGHT...WILL WAIT ON UPDATED GUIDANCE TO MAKE ANY
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE FORECAST. HAVE UPDATED CLOUDS AND TEMP
CURVE FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL HOURS...OTHERWISE PREVIOUS FORECAST
REMAINS ON TRACK. INITIAL GLANCE AT 12Z NAM SOUNDINGS SUGGEST
POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT PRECIP BEFORE DAYBREAK TUESDAY...ESPECIALLY
NEAR THE COAST...BUT WILL MORE FULLY EXAMINE THIS BEFORE THE NEXT
UPDATE.

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1800. scott39
3:58 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Is there a model showing up to 6 inches of snow in upper Mobile county?
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1799. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:57 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
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1798. Dakster
3:57 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1795. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we need a new blog doc whenever yer ready


What is with the new Avatar and what is it?

Clicking on it doesn't help me either.
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1797. nash36
3:57 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1792. carolinabelle:


Wow... that looks like a lot of ice forecasted in that model... any idea when CHS and other local offices may start posting warnings?


Should be anytime now.....I would imagine the watch will turn to a warning by this afternoon for CHS and surrounding areas.
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1796. Neapolitan
3:55 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1793. MahFL:


We humans are a recent addition to the population of Earth, come cold or heat one thing is for sure the Earth will survive. As for Humans, who knows what the long term future holds ?
As for the whining about rising sea levels, they will rise or fall and there is nothing Humans can do about it.
Well, there is something we're doing about sea levels: making them rise. And the 4,000,000 metric tons of pure CO2 we pump into the environment every hour of every day ensure that's going to continue well into the future. I imagine the several hundred million people who will be directly affected by those higher sea levels over the coming decades will very likely disagree with your assessment.
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1795. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:55 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
we need a new blog doc whenever yer ready
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1794. lostinohio
3:54 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Talk AGW ....your punishment will be to be locked up in a padded cell with Joe Bastardi........ lol
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1793. MahFL
3:51 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1785. WalkingInTheSun:
QUOTE:
"December 2013 was the globe's 3rd warmest December since records began in 1880..."



We humans are a recent addition to the population of Earth, come cold or heat one thing is for sure the Earth will survive. As for Humans, who knows what the long term future holds ?
As for the whining about rising sea levels, they will rise or fall and there is nothing Humans can do about it.
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1792. carolinabelle
3:47 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1788. hydrus:


Wow... that looks like a lot of ice forecasted in that model... any idea when CHS and other local offices may start posting warnings?
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1791. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:47 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
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1790. CarolinaHurricanes87
3:46 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1785. WalkingInTheSun:
QUOTE:
"December 2013 was the globe's 3rd warmest December since records began in 1880..."

I think we underestimate God, mother nature, etc. too much --



I think we overestimate God too much. For a science related board, it sure is strange to me to bring up an idea with ZERO evidence again and again and again, and then tell us we underestimate "his" power.... take that crap to sunday school
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1789. ncstorm
3:45 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
hour 36 on the 12z GFS

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1788. hydrus
3:45 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
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1787. Neapolitan
3:44 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1760. ncstorm:
Can we please leave the GW discussion till after the storm..there are millions of people who could be affected by it..not trying to start any argument just pleading for a break..

thanks..
Say, did you happen to read the current topic? Look at what Dr. Masters wrote; you might be surprised...
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1786. MahFL
3:44 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1721. weathermanwannabe:
Back in the day it used to be dreaming of a White Christmas............Seems likes (over the past several decades) that January and February are becoming the most likely months for many parts of the US............


That's because of global warming. In times past people would ice skate on the frozen river Thames in London.
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1785. WalkingInTheSun
3:42 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
QUOTE:
"December 2013 was the globe's 3rd warmest December since records began in 1880..."

I do not mean any disrespect to Dr Masters, but should we not consider the latter part of the statement, too? After all, that's barely a hundred years compared to how ever many people think the age of the earth is, right? Quite a lot of missing data. This also seems to be the point when people will point out that cold here does not negate warmth elsewhere. It is always whatever supports things at the time, as I don't believe anyone makes a deal about it for GW when there is a big chill in the Eu or Russia, huh?

I hear weathercasters crying about "Polar Vortex 2", here, & such like, with the cold wave entering the South this week. They expect temps to stay below freezing in the N Houston area for possibly as much as 2 - 3 days & with possible snow, sleet & freezing rain "worse" than last Friday (both rare).

Well, honestly, I can remember that, in the early to mid 1980s, temps in central Texas did not get above freezing for about an entire week on one cold snap.
Also, just recently, we had some warm temps again, as usual in January, despite the recent cold. In central Texas there is a common tendency that January will produce periods of really warm, springlike weather in between the cold spells of December & February. People on radio talk like we might almost be to spring planting if we get past this upcoming cold freeze, but history tells me otherwise. February brings some quite cold temps here, again.

SUGGESTION: what if this record cold in December Dr Masters talks about is simply like that, with a bit of change in timing? It could be like if the January warm spells in Texas happened a few weeks different in placement. Now, what if all this kind of thing happens....in a time-frame of hundreds or thousands of years, a slight shift? Would it really be SO abnormal simply because of a slight difference like that? After all, when talking about many thousands of years, what is seen as a small or large period of time could really not be so small or large at all.

Just food for thought, and I am sure it will get jumped on and bashed by people, but at least it is honest thinking. As for me, I think the earth could use some warming up. In the USA & many developed nations, people are often so used to the nice life (compared to most of the world) that they don't suffer from the cold. Yet, a lot of poor people could not bear to live in colder climes due to their poverty. It takes $$ for warm clothes, warm housing, untility bills being high in cold climates, etc. If the earth warms up -- it used to be tropical way up north, you know -- then many more poor people might afford a place to live that is not unbearably cold and could raise crops up north, too.

I think we underestimate God, mother nature, etc. too much -- the earth has changed before. Things will even out. Nature will even out. Maybe patterns will change, but as plants & creatures adapted before, they will again, and perhaps this will create greater biodiversity again -- something that has been dwindling. We do all like "biodiversity", right? So, that can be a good thing, as it could lead to new & good changes in plant & animal life and benefits for mankind, too. See, GW is good.

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1784. Dakster
3:41 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1782. ricderr:
God made a world that will sustain itself



mind showing me anywhere in the bible that confirms this?


It's in there,

"And on the 8th Day, God created Global Warming denialists."

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1783. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:38 PM GMT on January 27, 2014


take the tin god show someplace else bro


that's once
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1782. ricderr
3:32 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
God made a world that will sustain itself



mind showing me anywhere in the bible that confirms this?
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1781. Dakster
3:28 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1711. ncstorm:
NWS, Wilmington, NC



Good graphic, I like it. Can be adapted to almost any emergency. As most of those items you should always have on hand anyways, just in case of any natural disaster.

The things that are really important for us in the South are the emergency heat source, assuming you don't already have an alternate heat source that doesn't require power and the extra clothing in a vehicle. A small shovel, rope/chain and Salt/Sand/Kitty litter are others but not as important as being able to stay warm. If you go off the beaten path you probably already have the shovel and rope/chain. Most important is note that the people that walk away from their vehicle during the event are the ones the police find deceased and the ones that stayed with the vehicle are the ones found alive. Signal flares isn't on the list, but that is good idea to have around as well. I also like road flares as it make starting a roadside fire easy. (Obviously, not the glow sticks)

The wind-up radios that have cell phone charging capability are nice and you don't have to worry about having good batteries around. And some of the new wood stoves have that capability too, even the small camping ones like BioLite.
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1780. ScottLincoln
3:27 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1775. help4u:
Releveant science today is changing temps and placing thermometers on blacktop!!Relevant science is science only you agree with!Noaa forcast for jan was way above normal temps 90%of US.Not even close...

I don't think you understand how the CPC forecasts work. They have a few models, but it is mostly based on climate oscillations and analogues. Then they tell you which category (lowest 33%, middle 33%, or upper 33%) is favored. It is not a direct forecast for any particular category. Unless you are seeing a 60% probability or higher, no one category is actually "forecasted," it just is shown as slightly favored, based upon the things I mentioned above. Obviously analogues and climate indeces like ENSO have uncertainty when their teleconnections are applied to individual years, let alone individual months. I think you have some reading to do to catch up on this before you start your next rant.

CPC skill scores for monthly forecasts:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/verificatio n/land_air/all_ranges/conus/verif_web_tool/verif_t emp_manual_01m_01m_grid2deg_heidke_time_all.png
You can see that over the long term, CPC does have a positive skill (meaning they add value to the forecast over climatology or models alone). Recently, their skill has been negative, implying that that a forecast of climatology, or possibly even opposite of the CPC forecast, would have been closer to accurate. The basis of their forecasts, such as the climate indeces like ENSO, have not been a good predictor over this time period.
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1779. SouthTampa
3:26 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1769. CaneHunter031472:
The science is settled. Down with the AGW deniers. They will go into Al Gore's pit of fire. As a sign of solidarity, let us all AGW believers go out for the 24 hour swimsuit march tomorrow. 24 hours of marching on your favorite swimsuit in Chicago and any northern state of your choosing and even the south to shut the naysayers mouths.
What a fantastic idea, because you know, a global average temperature rise of a couple degrees Celsius will totally turn winter into summer.
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1778. CarolinaHurricanes87
3:26 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1766. help4u:
The global warming stuff is really going to throw the world into poverty and unimaginable suffering caused by communist ,socialist enviromental policy.


....You mean caused by unregulated industries and corrupt (R)'s that care about corporate and/or personal profits but not the environment or the humans inhabiting it?
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1777. Patrap
3:24 PM GMT on January 27, 2014


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1776. ScottLincoln
3:23 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1752. jpsb:

Wow, that is pretty impressive snow cover for North Hemisphere.

Climatologically-speaking, it is probably not as impressive as you'd think.

Here's the last 30yrs from the NCAR reanalysis:
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1775. help4u
3:22 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Releveant science today is changing temps and placing thermometers on blacktop!!Relevant science is science only you agree with!Noaa forcast for jan was way above normal temps 90%of US.Not even close and i am suppose to believe them when all you have to do is go back and look at the cycles in weather and see there is nothing new; has happened before.Super computers is only as good as info put in.Crap put in =crap put out.Look at a map with same factors and weather repeats itself.God made a world that will sustain itself and man will never control the weather.Sorry their is someone much bigger than mankind in control.
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1774. Patrap
3:20 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Anchorage Weather
Weather Station
Anchorage Merrill (PAMR)
Elevation 135 ft


Clear
Temperature
33 °F
Feels Like 29 °F
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1773. Patrap
3:19 PM GMT on January 27, 2014

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1772. air360
3:18 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1760. ncstorm:
Can we please leave the GW discussion till after the storm..there are millions of people who could be affected by it..not trying to start any argument just pleading for a break..

thanks..


amen
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1771. Patrap
3:17 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
I'm sure we will see a new entry soon with Dr. Masters take on the US Eastern Cold smackdown.

I'll have a new post on Monday discussing the impressive cold blast setting up for the eastern half of the U.S.

Jeff Masters






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1770. SouthernDiscomfort
3:16 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Checking in from midtown Savannah. Been reminding everyone that Ice =/= Snow as many that I know are expecting it to maybe just snow...

From the CHS Disco at 0659...

"TUESDAY NIGHT...DANGEROUS CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP AS THE PEAK OF THE
WINTER STORM IMPACTS THE AREA. LOW PRESSURE WILL BE FOUND OFFSHORE
OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA COASTS IN A HIGHLY FAVORED
CLIMATOLOGICAL LOCATION FOR WINTER STORMS. THE CYCLONIC NORTHERLY
FLOW AROUND THE LOW ITSELF WILL PROVIDE A NEARLY CONTINUOUSLY FEED
OF COLD/DRY AIR WITHIN THE BOUNDARY LAYER WHICH IS NEEDED FOR THE
MAINTENANCE OF FROZEN/FREEZING PRECIPITATION. ALOFT...A POWERFUL
UPPER JET APPROACHING OF 150 KT OR GREATER WILL STRETCH FROM THE
DEEP SOUTH INTO THE NORTHEAST U.S. WITH THE LOCAL AREA POSITIONED IN
THE FAVORABLE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION. THE RESULTING JET FORCING WITH
IMPRESSIVE UPWARD VERTICAL VELOCITIES SUGGEST PRECIPITATION WILL
CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND BECOME MODERATE OR EVEN LOCALLY HEAVY AT
TIMES THROUGH THE NIGHT. VARYING THERMAL PROFILES RESULTING FROM A
NUMBER OF DYNAMIC/THERMODYNAMIC PROCESSES POINT TO A HIGHLY
COMPLICATED P-TYPE FORECAST...WHICH WILL HAVE SOME INFLUENCE ON
SNOW/ICE ACCUMULATIONS. IT APPEARS AT THIS TIME THAT THERE WILL BE
ENOUGH DYNAMIC COOLING AND HEAVY ENOUGH PRECIPITATION RATES TO
SUPPORT FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET TRANSITIONING TO ALL SNOW ACROSS THE
INTERIOR BEFORE MIDNIGHT...WITH THE TRANSITION LINE TO ALL SNOW
STEADILY WORKING ITS WAY EAST/SE TO THE COAST BY SUNRISE WEDNESDAY
AS LOW PRESSURE BEGINS TO PULL AWAY FROM THE AREA. THE TIMING OF THE
CHANGEOVER WILL DICTATE HOW MUCH SNOW OCCURS...AND ALSO HOW MUCH
ICING PERSISTS. OUR LATEST THINKING IS THAT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL
REACH 2-3 INCHES ALONG THE NW TIER...WITH UP TO 1/3 TO 1/2 INCH OF
ICE EXPECTED. LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE IF THE CHANGEOVER
IS SLOWER. GIVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS...SOME
POTENTIALLY LASTING FOR DAYS...A WINTER STORM WATCH HAS BEEN
MAINTAINED FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST SOUTH CAROLINA AND SOUTHEAST GEORGIA
FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING. HOWEVER...BASED ON
THE LATEST EXPECTED IMPACTS WE HAVE SEGMENTED THE WATCH INTO
VARIOUS DIFFERENT GROUPINGS...AND WE/LL DEFINITELY NEED TO CONSIDER
UPGRADING TO A WARNING AT SOME POINT BY LATE TODAY."
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1769. CaneHunter031472
3:14 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
The science is settled. Down with the AGW deniers. They will go into Al Gore's pit of fire. As a sign of solidarity, let us all AGW believers go out for the 24 hour swimsuit march tomorrow. 24 hours of marching on your favorite swimsuit in Chicago and any northern state of your choosing and even the south to shut the naysayers mouths.
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1768. lostinohio
3:14 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Kindness and a little courtesy goes a long ways. An ignore button helps. Exciting times for us in the south. Pardon us for wanting to talk about it.
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1767. CaneHunter031472
3:10 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1764. Patrap:


"Departure of temperature from average for December 2013, the 3rd warmest December for the globe since record keeping began in 1880. Record warmth was observed across parts of central and eastern Russia, where temperature anomalies exceeded 5C (9F) across a large swath of the country. Record warmth was also present in various areas of coastal and southern Africa, and sections of southern South America.

It was much cooler than average across parts of central and eastern Canada, the west coast of the United States, southern Greenland, part of southeastern Asia, and most of the Middle East, with record cold temperatures (more than 5C / 9F below average) observed around eastern Turkey and northern Iraq. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) ."


Yeah Pat... I can really feel the warm weather. Especially these past 3 weeks. Heck let just call this the tropics and call it a day. Wow, Going to put my Top down on my jeep hold on... NOT.
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1766. help4u
3:08 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
People waiting on propane in indiana up to 2 weeks,plans for global warming already in energy policy with rolling blackouts and possible human deaths due to destruction of our power grid.we will not have to worry about dying from heat but from dying by freezing because of destruction of coal and natural gas policies by big government.Remember the ones that line there pockets with our money will alaways be nice and warm.The global warming stuff is really going to throw the world into poverty and unimaginable suffering caused by communist ,socialist enviromental policy.
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1765. Patrap
3:08 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
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1764. Patrap
3:07 PM GMT on January 27, 2014


"Departure of temperature from average for December 2013, the 3rd warmest December for the globe since record keeping began in 1880. Record warmth was observed across parts of central and eastern Russia, where temperature anomalies exceeded 5C (9F) across a large swath of the country. Record warmth was also present in various areas of coastal and southern Africa, and sections of southern South America.

It was much cooler than average across parts of central and eastern Canada, the west coast of the United States, southern Greenland, part of southeastern Asia, and most of the Middle East, with record cold temperatures (more than 5C / 9F below average) observed around eastern Turkey and northern Iraq. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) ."
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1763. ScottLincoln
3:05 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Quoting 1739. jpsb:


I read the other day that the sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is growing slowly this winter, not sure I buy that, but it is an interesting data point if true.

I appears the "north pole" has moved to south Canada.

Quoting 1752. jpsb:

Wow, that is pretty impressive snow cover for North Hemisphere. I read the new sea ice is not real thick this year so the new ice will melt quickly. We'll see, there is so much BS in the media re: climate I seldom believe anything I read.

In almost no conceivable way is the Arctic sea ice cover comparable to a few decades ago. The same %extent of today is not comparable to the same %extent of even 2 decades ago. The ice thickness is about as low as it goes, and it melts much quicker in the spring/summer. So no, there is no "growing slowly" in any climatic, meaningful sense.
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1762. Patrap
3:04 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
We will discuss the topic, as we see fit.

Feel free to ignore anything.

Thanx
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1761. Patrap
3:02 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
77' twas a very good year,

Saw Zep, turned 17, and Disco was waning.

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Snowstorms in the South: An Historical Perspective

By: Christopher C. Burt, 1:37 AM CST on January 12, 2011


Snowstorms in the Southeast and Deep South of the United States: An Historical Perspective

Atlanta, Georgia was amazed recently when 4-6” of snow (and ice) accumulated this past Sunday and Monday. Furthermore, snow fell on Christmas Day (officially 1.4”) in the Atlanta area as well. So how unusual is this? Of course, it is unusual but not close to record-breaking snowfall anywhere in the Southeast. Huntsville, Alabama recorded 8.9” and this was their 3rd heaviest accumulation on record but still a long way from the all-time record of 17.1” set on New Years Eve 1963-1964. Atlanta’s official 4.4” accumulation is also distant from their record of 11.2” set on January 7, 1940.
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1760. ncstorm
3:02 PM GMT on January 27, 2014
Can we please leave the GW discussion till after the storm..there are millions of people who could be affected by it..not trying to start any argument just pleading for a break..

thanks..
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