Intriguing Tipping Points TV Series Begins Airing Saturday at 9pm EDT

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 12:09 PM GMT on October 18, 2013

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How does one tell the most important story of our time--the emergence of our great Climate Disruption--without boring one's audience to tears, but at the same time, not resorting to over-hyped spinning of the science? “Tipping Points”, a landmark 6-part TV series that begins airing at 9 pm EDT Saturday, October 19 on The Weather Channel, aims to do just that. "Tipping Points" follows a group of preeminent scientists as they venture off the grid to explore the perilous tipping points making our weather systems more extreme and unpredictable.

The phenomena of “tipping points” follows the concept that, at a particular moment in time, a small change can have a large, long-term consequence on a fragile climate system already in a state of flux. Localized ecological systems are known to shift abruptly and irreversibly from one state to another when they are forced across critical thresholds. Further, when the situation is pushed past the “tipping point,” it will potentially lead to a chain reaction, putting other ecosystems around the globe in peril. “Tipping Points” will feature several of the most critical examples, including the collapse of the Greenland ice sheet, total melting of the Himalayan icecap glaciers, die-back of the Amazon rainforest, shutdown of the Atlantic Thermohaline Circulation, and the rapid melt of the permafrost in Siberia. "Tipping Points" will not only show how climate changes affect local communities in exotic and distant locales like the Amazon or Siberia, but how it impacts and is relevant to people from Australia and Asia to Europe, South America to Canada and every community in between. The series explores what is happening at the most dramatic tipping points and looks to find answers to understand what can be done to stem the tide of change before we do irreparable damage, and ultimately put our own lives at risk.



The series is hosted by polar explorer and climate journalist Bernice Notenboom, the first woman to climb Mt. Everest and walk to the North and South Poles. She is joined by a number of leading international environmental scientists in each episode, such as Dr. Jason Box, Dr. Matthew England, Professor Peter Cox, and more. In each episode, Notenboom heads off to a far corner of the world to find scientists in the field undertaking vital climate research to try to understand how the climate system is changing and how long we have to make significant changes before we reach a tipping point--a point of no return when our climate system will be changed irreversibly.



The first episode at 9 pm EDT/8 pm CDT this Saturday will be "Amazon Rainforest Risks". "Tipping Points" host Bernice Notenboom will join Peter Cox, Professor of Climate System Dynamics at the University of Exeter, on an expedition across the vast Amazon Rainforest to explore the mega droughts and tree deaths occurring that threaten the forest's survival this century. The Amazon stores CO2 in its soils and biomass equivalent to about fifteen years of human-caused emissions, so a massive die-back of the forest could greatly accelerate global warming. Photosynthesis in the world's largest rainforest keeps the Earth cooler by taking about 2 billion tons of carbon dioxide out of the air each year. However, exceptional droughts in both 2005 and 2010 reversed this process. The Amazon emitted 3 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in 2005, causing a net 5 billion ton increase in CO2 to the atmosphere--roughly equivalent to 19% of the total CO2 emissions to the atmosphere from burning fossil fuels that year. A 2013 NASA-led study found that an area of the Amazon rainforest twice the size of California continues to suffer from the effects of the 2005 mega drought. A 2008 paper by Professor Cox warned that their climate model predicted a rapidly increasing risk of 2005-like droughts from 1-in-20 years in the present climate to 1-in-2 years by 2025, if we continue emitting CO2 at our current "business-as-usual" pace. A 2013 study by Fu et al. found that the dry season length has grown by about seven days per decade in the southern part of the rainforest. If this trend continues in coming decades at half of that rate, the fire season that contributed to the 2005 drought would become the new norm by the late 21st century. The leader of the study, Rong Fu, explained: "The dry season over the southern Amazon is already a marginal for maintaining rainforest. At some point, if it becomes too long, the rainforest will reach a tipping point."



Typhoon Francisco headed towards Japan
Category 4 Typhoon Francisco continues to intensify over the warm waters of the Western Pacific about 200 miles west of Guam. Even though the eye of Francisco passed more than 150 miles west of Guam Friday morning, the huge storm brought sustained winds of 37 mph, gusting to 46 mph, to the island, along with 6.75" of rain. Satellite loops show that Francisco is well-organized with an impressive area of heavy thunderstorms and a prominent eye. With warm waters that extend to great depth and low wind shear, continued strengthening is likely, and Francisco is forecast to become a super typhoon with 150 mph winds by Saturday as it heads northwest towards Japan. The European model now shows that Francisco will miss Japan, but the GFS model predicts that Francisco will hit Japan on Thursday next week. There is very high uncertainty in the storm's track that far into the future, since the timing of Francisco's turn the northeast is difficult to predict.

The Atlantic is quiet
None of the reliable computer models for forecasting tropical cyclone genesis is predicting development over the next five days.

Jeff Masters

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948. luvtogolf
11:15 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 944. Neapolitan:
And I don't think anyone ever said we were. But we have been scientifically and soundly implicated as the primary culprit.


Ya right...
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947. Birthmark
6:05 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 934. yoboi:



I post many times from NOAA NASA Dr Spencer.....and Curry sems to have figured what is going on.....Do I need to list more names??? I have plenty....

More? No. Quantity isn't the problem. It is the quality of what you post with respect to climate that is lacking severely.
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946. Jedkins01
6:02 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
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945. weatherbro
5:54 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 899. daddyjames:


What does George Washington have to do with this?


Because his flatulence meter was waaay over the roof!!!
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944. Neapolitan
5:17 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 932. Dakster:
I don't agree 'we' (humans) are the sole reason of GW ...
And I don't think anyone ever said we were. But we have been scientifically and soundly implicated as the primary culprit.
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943. Neapolitan
5:15 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 933. bappit:
Analogies to the effects of CO2: On a personal level, when do you notice the irreversible effects of poor dental hygiene of smoking? of excess cholesterol? etc.

The point of irreversible damage passes quietly, unnoticed. I wouldn't be looking for tipping points in these story lines. (TWC wants to sell stories. We may call it news, but they are news stories. News without a story does not sell as well, and they know it.)
Perhaps when your dentist he has to pull all your remaining teeth immediately to keep you from dying of periodontal disease? When you wake up after a stroke with half your brain non-functional? When you have a massive heart attack while sitting at McDonalds?

No, not all "irreversible damage passes quietly" and "unnoticed". Sometimes it really is just that sudden...
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942. whitewabit (Mod)
5:08 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
New blog up ..
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941. yoboi
5:06 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 938. Naga5000:


Listen Yoboi, Spencer's last publication on clouds was trashed by his peers:
"This simple model does not have a realistic representation of the Earth's oceans, which are a key factor in the planet's climate, and it also doesn't model the Earth's water cycle. One key aspect in the Earth's temperature changes is the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which is a cycle of the Pacific Ocean. Spencer's model does not include ENSO, and he assumes that ENSO responds to changes in cloud cover, when in reality it's the other way around.

There are some other key problems in the paper. It doesn't provide enough information for other scientists to repeat the study. When two other climate scientists (Kevin Trenberth and John Fasullo) tried to replicate its results as best they could with the information provided, they found quite different results (see the Advanced version of this rebuttal for further details). Spencer and Braswell's conclusions also only seems to work using the satellite data set they chose, but Trenberth and Fasullo found that using other data sets also changes their results." Link

Curry's current co-authored paper has also been picked apart for it's inaccuracies. (See previous posts on this subject in the current blog and on Dr. Rood's)

So go ahead, post whatever you'd like.



I understand what you are saying but I disagree that I only post from what you deem crazy sites....
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940. FunnelVortex
5:06 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
My grandmother lives on an island in the intercoastal in Port Orange (in the Daytona area). She's been calling me and telling me that the waters have been anonymously high lately.

What causes the phenomenon of the high waters? I'm curious.
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939. whitewabit (Mod)
5:04 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
It appears Fransisco will make a direct hit on Japan .. frightening looking storm ..



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938. Naga5000
5:02 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 934. yoboi:



I post many times from NOAA NASA Dr Spencer.....and Curry sems to have figured what is going on.....Do I need to list more names??? I have plenty....


Listen Yoboi, Spencer's last publication on clouds was trashed by his peers:
"This simple model does not have a realistic representation of the Earth's oceans, which are a key factor in the planet's climate, and it also doesn't model the Earth's water cycle. One key aspect in the Earth's temperature changes is the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which is a cycle of the Pacific Ocean. Spencer's model does not include ENSO, and he assumes that ENSO responds to changes in cloud cover, when in reality it's the other way around.

There are some other key problems in the paper. It doesn't provide enough information for other scientists to repeat the study. When two other climate scientists (Kevin Trenberth and John Fasullo) tried to replicate its results as best they could with the information provided, they found quite different results (see the Advanced version of this rebuttal for further details). Spencer and Braswell's conclusions also only seems to work using the satellite data set they chose, but Trenberth and Fasullo found that using other data sets also changes their results." Link

Curry's current co-authored paper has also been picked apart for it's inaccuracies. (See previous posts on this subject in the current blog and on Dr. Rood's)

So go ahead, post whatever you'd like.
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937. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
5:02 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
936. FunnelVortex
5:02 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 915. bappit:

I've seen him use TWC's winter storm names. That's proof he can be bought--because those names are just TWC hype. Edit: but that's a trifling matter.

I've already criticized the glamorization of tipping points. Because CO2 levels decrease only slowly through natural processes, the consequences of increased CO2 are built into the system before they are noticeable. The true tipping points pass unnoticed. We notice the consequences after it is too late.


There nothing wrong with naming winter storms. I think you are one of the few people still whining about it.
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935. bappit
5:00 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Look at the first sentence in Dr. M's blog.

"How does one tell the most important story of our time--the emergence of our great Climate Disruption--without boring one's audience to tears ..."

He goes on to declare he does not want to hype the science, but I think introducing tipping points is exactly that. Tipping points create a story line. It distorts the science.

Nobody wants to be told to brush and floss, not smoke, watch what they eat or decrease their CO2 excretion (consumption, lol). Then again, no one wants their teeth to fall out, die in pain as cancer metastasizes (or live off an oxygen bottle), or have a stroke or heart attack. They also don't want to watch sea levels rise and flood their cities, endure droughts or all the other ills climate change can wreak.
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934. yoboi
4:52 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 908. Naga5000:


Questioning? What is there to question? We would much rather post news and info about climate and climate science than be forced to debunk all the nonsense that comes out of pseudo science blogs like Goddard's and Watt's. If reposting non science is questioning, we are in a boat load of trouble here.



I post many times from NOAA NASA Dr Spencer.....and Curry sems to have figured what is going on.....Do I need to list more names??? I have plenty....
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933. bappit
4:52 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Analogies to the effects of CO2: On a personal level, when do you notice the irreversible effects of poor dental hygiene? of smoking? of excess cholesterol? etc.

The point of irreversible damage passes quietly, unnoticed. I wouldn't be looking for tipping points in these story lines. (TWC wants to sell stories. We may call it news, but they are news stories. News without a story does not sell as well, and they know it.)
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932. Dakster
4:52 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Anyone needing proof of sea level rise, please go to Miami Beach... The tide is in and laping against the buildings along the coast.

I don't agree 'we' (humans) are the sole reason of GW - however, I also don't believe in poisoning the environment regardless.

Link-Miami Beach Street Flooding
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931. Tazmanian
4:51 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 929. GTstormChaserCaleb:
Well this will remain to be seen. But we could be looking at 2 hurricanes, possibly 2 major hurricanes in the EPAC by the end of the month. Wonder what the MJO chart is looking like now?





and i see a 995mb low on the map way down there by MX that would bring us up too the T storm
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930. GTstormChaserCaleb
4:51 PM GMT on October 19, 2013


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929. GTstormChaserCaleb
4:48 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Well this will remain to be seen. But we could be looking at 2 hurricanes, possibly 2 major hurricanes in the EPAC by the end of the month. Wonder what the MJO chart is looking like now?



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928. beell
4:47 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
The large, impressive Omega block centered just off the western coast of North America continues in the GFS model.

A "stuck" oscillation resulting in all forms of fall weather one would associate with a deep long wave over the eastern half of the country.


10/19 00Z GFS 500 mb height anomaly. Left to right, Day 3, 8, and 11
(click for full image)

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927. hydrus
4:46 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
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926. bappit
4:45 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 919. Neapolitan:
I use TWC's storm names, and TWC has not yet sent me any cash. The BBC uses the TWC names, too, and I'm so far unaware of any payment going to London for their doing so. Many other people--and blogs, and news outlets--use those handy names, too. So, no, the fact that Dr. Masters uses them is "proof" of nothing--though it is evidence that he's smart enough to know a great idea when he sees it... ;-)

LOL
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925. whitewabit (Mod)
4:44 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 915. bappit:

I've seen him use TWC's winter storm names. That's proof he can be bought--because those names are just TWC hype. Edit: but that's a trifling matter.

I've already criticized the glamorization of tipping points. Because CO2 levels decrease only slowly through natural processes, the consequences of increased CO2 are built into the system before they are noticeable. Consequently, the true tipping points pass unnoticed. We notice the consequences after it is too late.


I believe you are you confusing policy and views ..

TWC new policy of naming storms and someone's views are much different ..
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924. TropicalAnalystwx13
4:43 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 916. hydrus:
It is my theory that the sustained wind were higher than 160 kts.

Probably. The recon plane left Wilma a few hours before it's estimated to have attained peak intensity.

Did Hurricane Wilma have 209 mph sustained winds? - April 28, 2012
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923. hydrus
4:43 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
A serious blast of cold air for us in Middle Tennessee..
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922. daddyjames
4:43 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 915. bappit:

I've seen him use TWC's winter storm names. That's proof he can be bought--because those names are just TWC hype.

I've already criticized the glamorization of tipping points. Because CO2 levels decrease only slowly through natural processes, the consequences are built into the system before they are noticeable. Consequently, the true tipping points pass unnoticed. We notice the consequences after it is too late.

I would disagree about the "glamorization" of tipping points, as this does not imply that the impacts of passing these points will lead to immediate catastrophic events.

It simply is a point, that when passed, the impacts cannot be mitigated. Those impacts will unfold. Yes, over a long period of time, but essentially they will happen - regardless of what action is subsequently taken. Education about the fact that the negative impacts cannot be addressed by future reactions to any changes, dispels many of the myths that are promulgated by those more focused on the short term impacts.

We are talking about the future, but someday the future does become the present.
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921. LargoFl
4:43 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
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920. whitewabit (Mod)
4:41 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 916. hydrus:
It is my theory that the sustained wind were higher than 160 kts.


during any hurricane there can be pockets of winds much higher then those recorded at weather stations .. but would think that the duration of those winds would be short in comparison to the length of the storm ..

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919. Neapolitan
4:40 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 915. bappit:

I've seen him use TWC's winter storm names. That's proof he can be bought--because those names are just TWC hype.

I've already criticized the glamorization of tipping points. Because CO2 levels decrease only slowly through natural processes, the consequences are built into the system before they are noticeable. Consequently, the true tipping points pass unnoticed. We notice the consequences after it is too late.
I use TWC's storm names, and TWC has not yet sent me any cash. The BBC uses the TWC names, too, and I'm so far unaware of any payment going to London for their doing so. Many other people--and blogs, and news outlets--use those handy names, too, and I seriously doubt they're all being bribed by TWC to do so. So, no, the fact that Dr. Masters uses them is "proof" of nothing--though it is evidence that he's smart enough to know a great idea when he sees it... ;-)
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918. LargoFl
4:38 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
rejoice florida,its coming..7-day for tampa bay area..
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917. Neapolitan
4:37 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 906. Sfloridacat5:


Yes, but now the door is open to blame everything on GW. (record lows, record highs, earliest snowfalls, drought, flooding, etc)..
Again, I've seen no one do that. If you have, please share with us, as we'd like to correct them on their erroneous statements.
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916. hydrus
4:37 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 891. TropicalAnalystwx13:
Wilma looping around with 160kt winds..

It is my theory that the sustained wind were higher than 160 kts.
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915. bappit
4:35 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 907. whitewabit:


I don't believe Dr Masters views on GW can be bought !! and that's what your implying ..

I've seen him use TWC's winter storm names. That's proof he can be bought--because those names are just TWC hype. Edit: but that's a trifling matter.

I've already criticized the glamorization of tipping points. Because CO2 levels decrease only slowly through natural processes, the consequences of increased CO2 are built into the system before they are noticeable. The true tipping points pass unnoticed. We notice the consequences after it is too late.
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914. Neapolitan
4:34 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 900. Sfloridacat5:
I think it silly to try to relate every "extreme" event to GW.

GW/Climate change must be viewed in trends over time (not an independent event).
I think it's silly, too. So I think it's a good thing no one remotely credible has done that. Wouldn't you agree? But doing that is, of course, quite different from looking at a large number of extreme events, and seeing those events increase in both frequency and severity. And it's also quite different from acknowledging that the changing climate naturally affects every single weather event taking place. That doesn't mean every weather event is extreme, of course, but it does mean that they're all playing in the same sandbox, so to speak, so it's logically impossible to separate the two, and there's absolutely no validity in anyone's claim that "Weather Event X was not influenced in any way by climate change"...
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913. daddyjames
4:34 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 910. Dakster:
Are we doing 2014 predictions or did I miss that and we are now on 2015?

It was so "disappointing" this year that the malaise will take another year to fully dissipate.
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912. Naga5000
4:34 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 911. Dakster:


When you don't agree with someone, imply some nefarious is going on.


To be fair, it is often implied on here that Dr. Master's is part of some "conspiracy of the left"', promoting their "agenda", or NBC's "agenda", or TWC's "agenda", it's hardly rare.
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911. Dakster
4:32 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 907. whitewabit:


I don't believe Dr Masters views on GW can be bought !! and that's what your implying ..


When you don't agree with someone, imply some nefarious is going on.
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910. Dakster
4:30 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Are we doing 2014 predictions or did I miss that and we are now on 2015?
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909. bappit
4:30 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Lorentz transformation
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908. Naga5000
4:27 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 905. VR46L:



LOL!!!

Doug to post in Dr Rood's blog ? I would be there with the popcorn . I don't think you realise what you are doing ? Or are things uninteresting now that Yoboi is the only Questioning regular voice these days


Questioning? What is there to question? We would much rather post news and info about climate and climate science than be forced to debunk all the nonsense that comes out of pseudo science blogs like Goddard's and Watt's. If reposting non science is questioning, we are in a boat load of trouble here.
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907. whitewabit (Mod)
4:26 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 884. sts100launch:
While I have always respected Dr. Masters it worries me, no matter your side in GW, when he is promoting a TV program that is produced and present by the company that's paying the bills. Just how can his view be totally scientific?


I don't believe Dr Masters views on GW can be bought !! and that's what your implying ..
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906. Sfloridacat5
4:26 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 902. daddyjames:


Yes, unfortunately both camps are guilty as chraged. It is a log-term kind of catastorphic event that will occur. Unfortunately, disasters that evolve realtively slowly, compared to our lifespan, are the most difficult to acknowledge. And when the impacts are sufficient to convince almost the entire population (there will always be a percentage of individuals that will not be convinced by the evidence on hand), it will be too late to take any prudent steps to avoid the inevitable effects.


Yes, but now the door is open to blame everything on GW. (record lows, record highs, earliest snowfalls, drought, flooding, etc).

I can only imagine if it snowed in Miami like it did back in 1977, everyone would point their finger at GW.

But I agree about the percentage of people who turn a blind eye to GW/Climate change.
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905. VR46L
4:24 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 897. Xulonn:
You still haven't become knowledgeable the dynamics of the rather unpredictable Arctic Oscillation? And how it causes weather extremes? And how it is influenced by AGW/CC.

A good place to start learning about this very fundamental element of northern hemisphere weather is via Dr. Rood's current series of blogs.

Take off your blinders!

Expand your horizons!

Become scientifically literate in meteorology and climate science.

WU has so much to offer for all of us - it's right there in front of us for the taking.!



LOL!!!

Doug to post in Dr Rood's blog ? I would be there with the popcorn . I don't think you realise what you are doing ? Or are things uninteresting now that Yoboi is the only Questioning regular voice these days
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904. PalmBeachWeather
4:22 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 902. daddyjames:


Yes, unfortunately both camps are guilty as charged. It is a long-term kind of catastrophic event that will occur. Unfortunately, disasters that evolve relatively slowly, compared to our lifespan, are the most difficult to acknowledge. And when the impacts are sufficient to convince almost the entire population (there will always be a percentage of individuals that will not be convinced by the evidence on hand), it will be too late to take any prudent steps to avoid the inevitable effects.
mail daddy
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903. Birthmark
4:21 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 901. TropicalAnalystwx13:
Wilma: freak of nature - October 19, 2005

It's a shame you weren't here then. It really was an incredible night. Like many others, I stayed up all night watching the pressure drop precipitously. The blog was, rightfully, nuts.
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902. daddyjames
4:20 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 900. Sfloridacat5:
I think it silly to try to relate every "extreme" event to GW.

GW/Climate change must be viewed in trends over time (not an independent event).


Yes, unfortunately both camps are guilty as charged. It is a long-term kind of catastrophic event that will occur. Unfortunately, disasters that evolve relatively slowly, compared to our lifespan, are the most difficult to acknowledge. And when the impacts are sufficient to convince almost the entire population (there will always be a percentage of individuals that will not be convinced by the evidence on hand), it will be too late to take any prudent steps to avoid the inevitable effects.
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901. TropicalAnalystwx13
4:16 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Wilma: freak of nature - October 19, 2005
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900. Sfloridacat5
4:14 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
I think it silly to try to relate every "extreme" event to GW.

GW/Climate change must be viewed in trends over time (not an independent event).
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899. daddyjames
4:11 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 889. PensacolaDoug:





Finish the thought JL!


That would be........GW!


What does George Washington have to do with this?
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898. FunnelVortex
4:11 PM GMT on October 19, 2013
Quoting 895. yoboi:


Wonder who he will be for halloween....


Probably a co2 molecule.
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