Mexican Death Toll 57 From Manuel and Ingrid; 95L Likely to Bring More Rain

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:20 PM GMT on September 18, 2013

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Tropical Storm Manuel has regenerated into a strong tropical storm just west of Mexico's Baja Peninsula this Wednesday morning, and the destructive storm promises to bring even more misery to a Mexican nation already reeling from the combined one-two punch of Manuel on its Pacific coast and Hurricane Ingrid on the Atlantic coast earlier this week. The two storms, which hit Mexico within 24 hours of each other on Monday and Tuesday, are now being blamed for the deaths of at least 57 people in Mexico. It was the first time since 1958 that two tropical storms or hurricanes had hit both of Mexico's coasts within 24 hours. Hardest hit was the Acapulco region on Mexico's Pacific coast, where the airport is barely functioning, many roads still flooded and blocked, and tens of thousands of tourists are scrambling to get home. Acapulco received 7.41" of rain from Manuel September 12 - 16, and much higher amounts of rain fell in the surrounding mountains. Newly regenerated Manuel promises to bring 5 - 10" of rain to the Mexican state of Sinaloa, which is likely to cause dangerous flash floods and mudslides.


Figure 1. A soldier wades through the water at the airport of Acapulco, after floods from Tropical Storm Manuel hit on September 17, 2013. Image credit: Pedro Pardo/AFP/Getty Images).


Figure 2. View of a street in Acapulco, Guerrero state, Mexico, after a landslide caused by heavy rains from Tropical Storm Manuel on September 15, 2013. Image credit: CLAUDIO VARGAS/AFP/Getty Images)


Figure 3. Storm sandwich: Tropical Storm Manuel and Hurricane Ingrid lay siege to Mexico on September 15, 2013. Tropical Storm Manuel came ashore on the Pacific coast near Manzanillo on the afternoon of September 15, and Hurricane Ingrid followed suit from the Atlantic on September 16. Image credit: NASA.

Invest 95L headed for Bay of Campeche
Waterlogged Mexico has yet another tropical rain-making system to worry about this week. An area of disturbed weather (Invest 95L) over the Yucatan Peninsula will emerge into the Southwestern Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche by Wednesday night. Satellite loops show that 95L already has a pronounced spin and a respectable area of heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is moderate, and ocean temperatures are warm, 29°C (84°F.) A hurricane hunter flight is scheduled to investigate 95L on Thursday afternoon.

Invest 95L will likely stay trapped in the Bay of Campeche
Wind shear is expected to be low to moderate over the next five days. There is some dry air over the Bay of Campeche, but I doubt this will be an impediment to development, given the low to moderate wind shear. NHC gave the disturbance 2-day development odds of 70% and 5-day odds of 80% in their 8 am EDT Wednesday Tropical Weather Outlook. Steering currents will be weak in the Bay of Campeche over the next five days, and most of the models predict that 95L will stay trapped there, moving slowly and erratically. However, the UKMET model and approximately 20% of the 20 individual forecasts from the GFS ensemble and European Center ensemble predict that 95L will turn north next week and hit the U.S. Gulf Coast. A cold front and associated upper-level trough of low pressure are expected to push southeastwards over the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday, and it is possible that the upper-level westerly winds associated with this weather system will reach far enough south to pull 95L out of the Bay of Campeche. It typically takes a stronger upper-level trough of low pressure to flush a tropical cyclone out of the Bay of Campeche, though, and 95L will most likely stay put. Regardless, tropical moisture from 95L will likely stream northeastwards along the cold front over much of the U.S. Gulf Coast on Saturday and Sunday, bringing heavy rains of 2 - 4". A non-tropical low pressure system is expected to form along this front over the Southeast U.S. on Sunday, spreading heavy rains up the East Coast early next week.

Typhoon Usagi headed for Taiwan
In the Western Pacific, Typhoon Usagi has intensified to a Category 1 storm with 75 mph winds. Further intensification is likely over the next few days, as Usagi is over very warm waters of 29 - 30°C with high heat content, and is under light wind shear of 5 - 10 knots. The official JTWC forecast brings Usagi to a Category 3 storm before encountering Taiwan, when interaction with land could potentially weaken the storm. Satellite images show Usagi has developed a prominent eye surrounded by intense thunderstorms that reach high into the atmosphere. The typhoon is expected to pass north of the Philippines Islands on Friday, and will threaten southern Taiwan on Saturday.

Jeff Masters

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What a storm. Probably at or near Cat 5 intensity based off satellite estimates. The relative regularity with which the West Pacific can produce storms like this is scary.



It'll probably perform an EWRC at some point starting within the next 24 hours, probably sooner, due to the rather tight inner core shown by microwave imagery. Hopefully that will weaken it some.
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1298. yoboi
Quoting 1278. VR46L:
Split but not as split




yeah
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Good morning, WU!

Looks like there have been a few developments:

-Humberto is (finally) a tropical depression

-Miguel is still (!) a hurricane

-Usagi/Odette has gotten stronger, is looking good, and headed between the Philippines & Taiwan

-TD 18 is at the coast of Central Vietnam, headed inland

-95L looks to be headed to Mexico

-there's a new yellow circle E/NE of the Bahamas

-the South Platte River near Kersey (east of Greeley, CO) is still in major flood stage

and, last but not least, there's a bunch of rain headed our way here in S. Louisiana from the front coming through this weekend

I know for a lot of folks that adds up to 'boring', but that's plenty enough for me :)

(please let me know if I've missed anything of significance)

EDIT: also, TD east of the Mariana Islands
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T numbers from ADT are now at 7.0/140 kts, equivalent of a Category 5 cyclone.

2013SEP19 093200 7.0 899.9 1.9 140.0 7.0 7.6 7.6 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 5.18 -81.46 EYE 18 IR 71.3 17.98 -127.57 COMBO MTSAT2 29.0
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Good morning, afternoon and evening, everyone. An even warmer 76 degrees already this morning, with a high of 92 expected, so a 'little' cooler. A chance of rain this afternoon, but a 70% chance tomorrow. We can only hope...

I see Manuel is back to a hurricane, and the poor people of Tampico can't get a break. :(

Breakfast's on the sideboard: Corn Waffles With Cajun Vegetables and Shrimp, whole wheat pancakes with fruit sauce, egg burritos with cheese and chorizo, bacon and egg grilled cheese, egg & cheese quesadillas, French toast roll-ups, thick slices honey ham, cheese Danishes, yogurt, fresh fruit and orange, apple or pineapple juice. Enjoy!
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a few new areas to keep a keen eye on. better have the A game today
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2013SEP19 090100 6.8 906.3 +1.9 134.8 6.8 7.5 7.5 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 5.90 -81.14 EYE 19 IR 73.4 17.92 -127.63 COMBO MTSAT2 28.9
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Quoting 1289. Civicane49:
Usagi will very likely be the first Category 5 cyclone of 2013.


Agreed, already has the same pressure as Utor (925) and forecasts show at least a 10 to 20 knot increase in winds before reaching Taiwan... Also showing it to pass directly over Hong Kong on the 22nd with sustained winds of 100+ knots, not a pretty scenario - this could turn out to be the costliest, if not the deadliest storm in the WPAC this season :/
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1290. jeebsa
Quoting 1284. LargoFl:
Good to see you back Largo I miss the morning maps.
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Usagi will very likely be the first Category 5 cyclone of 2013.
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Good morning to everyone (even though its already almost noon here in Amsterdam) :) I see Manuel has pulled off a bit of a surprise, changing course and intensity...

On a different note, the wikipedia articles for the 2013 atlantic and pacific hurricane seasons still show 15 casualties for Manuel and 23 for Ingrid, despite media reports now suggesting at least 80 deaths from the two storms combined... However, most articles are yet to separate the death toll according to each storm - I don't even know how easy that will be, but can anyone that likes to edit on WP maybe fix the tolls or at least share a link to a news article where new and updated ones are available?
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1286. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
JMA did not change in intensity at the 6PM JST advisory.

meanwhile 98W (24)

2013SEP19 090100 2.5 997.0 0.0 35.0 2.5 2.5 2.5 NO LIMIT OFF OFF -19.25 -48.77 CRVBND N/A N/A 14.11 -148.14
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SAB thinks Usagi is a Category 5 typhoon.

19/0832 UTC 17.9N 127.6E T7.0/7.0 USAGI -- West Pacific
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1284. LargoFl
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1283. LargoFl
GEM model for next Tuesday................
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1282. LargoFl
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1281. LargoFl
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS AFTERNOON AND EVENING THUNDERSTORMS ARE
EXPECTED WITH GUSTY WINDS...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FREQUENT LIGHTNING
AS THE PRIMARY HAZARDS.

...WIND AND SEA IMPACT...
ELEVATED SEAS DUE TO OVERNIGHT EASTERLY SURGES IN WIND COULD BRING
AT LEAST CAUTIONARY CONDITIONS TO THE GULF WATERS. SEE THE LATEST
COASTAL WATERS FORECAST FOR MORE DETAILS.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED WITH GUSTY
WINDS...HEAVY RAINFALL AND FREQUENT LIGHTNING AS THE PRIMARY
HAZARDS.

...RIP CURRENT IMPACT...
SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE THE RISK OF RIP CURRENTS ALONG
THE BEACHES OF WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA SUNDAY THROUGH
WEDNESDAY. ELEVATED WINDS AND WAVES DUE TO A DEVELOPING GULF
WEATHER SYSTEM WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RIP CURRENT RISK NEXT
WEEK.

...WIND AND SEA IMPACT...
A WEATHER SYSTEM EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER NORTH FLORIDA LATE IN
THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK IS EXPECTED TO BRING ELEVATED
WINDS AND SEAS TO THE WATERS.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTERS SHOULD MONITOR THE WEATHER AND SELF ACTIVATE IF NEEDED.

$$

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1280. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Philippines Atmospheric Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #10
TYPHOON ODETTE
5:00 PM PhST September 19 2013
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Typhoon "ODETTE" has gained strength as it moves in a northwest direction towards northern Luzon

At 4:00 PM PhST, Typhoon Odette [USAGI] (958 hPa) located at 17.8N, 127.7E or 570 km east of Tuguegarao City has 10 minute sustained winds of 85 knots with gustiness up to 105 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving northwest at 8 knots.

Signal Warnings
================

Signal Warning #2

Luzon Region
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1. Batanes Group of Islands
2. Cagayan
3. Calayan
4. Babuyan Group of Island
5. Apayao

Signal Warning #1

Luzon Region
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1. Iocos Norte
2. Ilocos Sur
3. Mt. Province
4. Ifugao
5. Abra
6. Kalinga
7. Isabela

Additional Information
========================

Estimated rainfall amount is from 10-20 mm per hour (heavy to intense) within the 700 km diameter of the typhoon.

Residents in low lying and mountainous areas under signal #2 & #1 are alerted against possible flash floods and landslides. Likewise, those living in coastal areas under signal #2 are alerted against storm surges.

"ODETTE" will continue to enhance the Southwest Monsoon that will bring moderate to occasionally heavy rains and thunderstorms over MIMAROPA, western Visayas, Cavite, Laguna and Batangas. Residents in these areas are advised to be alert against flashfloods and landslides.

Sea travel is risky over the seaboards of Occidental Mindoro and Palawan and over the eastern seaboard of central and southern Luzon and of Visayas.

The public and the disaster risk reduction and management council concerned are advised to take appropriate actions and watch for the next bulletin to be issued at 11 PM today.
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1279. barbamz
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1278. VR46L
Split but not as split

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Usagi is now up to 120 kts according to JTWC. Although I believe it's a little stronger than that, perhaps at about 130 kts.

Small, but tight inner core on the recent microwave imagery.

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Raw T number is up to 7.5/155 kts.

2013SEP19 080100 6.2 923.8 2.0 119.8 6.0 7.1 7.5 1.7T/6hr ON OFF 5.78 -80.83 EYE 18 IR 73.4 17.79 -127.75 COMBO MTSAT2 28.7
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Beautiful.



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1274. barbamz
Mexico storms: Hurricane Manuel upgraded and near coast
BBC, September 19

US meteorologists say Tropical Storm Manuel, which has battered the south-west of Mexico, has gathered strength and is now a category one hurricane.

Hurricane Manuel is now approaching north-western Mexico and threatens more destruction, the US National Hurricane Centre said.

The tropical storms Ingrid and Manuel killed 80 people earlier this week.

Now 58 people are reported missing after a landslide buried a village in the south-west of the country.

US experts say Hurricane Manuel is sustaining winds of 120km/h (75mph) and moving towards the coast.
'Very powerful landslide'

President Enrique Pena Nieto said that 58 people were missing after the landslide in the village of La Pintada in Guerrero state.

"It doesn't look good, based on the photos we have in our possession," said Mexican Interior Minister Miguel Angel Osorio Chong, saying it was a "very powerful" landslide.

"Up to this point, we do not have any [confirmed] dead in the landslide," he added.
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HURRICANE MANUEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 20
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP132013
200 AM PDT THU SEP 19 2013

THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER OF MANUEL HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO LOCATE IN
GEOSTATIONARY IMAGERY OVERNIGHT...HOWEVER A SERIES OF MICROWAVE
PASSES AND RADAR DATA FROM GUASAVE MEXICO SUGGEST THAT THE CENTER
HAS REMAINED OFFSHORE THUS FAR...ALTHOUGH THE NORTHERN EYEWALL HAS
BEEN OVER LAND FOR SEVERAL HOURS. MICROWAVE IMAGERY ALSO SUGGESTED
SOME TILT TO THE CIRCULATION...WITH THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER DISPLACED
A BIT TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE MID-LEVEL CENTER. GIVEN THAT THE
CENTER STILL APPEARS TO BE OFFSHORE...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD
AT 65 KT BASED ON THE LATEST DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE FROM
TAFB.

THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 355/03. THE AFOREMENTIONED
MICROWAVE FIXES SHOWED THAT THE CENTER IS A LITTLE FARTHER WEST AND
SOUTH THAN PREVIOUS ESTIMATES. WITH WEAK SYNOPTIC-SCALE STEERING...
THE TRACK MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW LARGE SPREAD. THE NHC
FORECAST WILL MAINTAIN CONTINUITY AND SHOW THE CENTER OF MANUEL
MOVING SLOWLY INLAND NEAR THE COAST OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
THIS GENERAL IDEA IS SUPPORTED BY THE GFS...ECMWF...FIM...AND HWRF
MODELS. AN ALTERNATE SCENARIO IS THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION OF
MANUEL COULD DECOUPLE FROM THE MID/UPPER-LEVEL CIRCULATION AND
LINGER OVER THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA FOR THE NEXT 2 OR 3 DAYS...AS
SHOWN BY THE UKMET. NEEDLESS TO SAY...CONFIDENCE REMAINS QUITE LOW
IN THE TRACK FORECAST.

AS MORE OF THE CIRCULATION MOVES OVER LAND IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS...
WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN. WITH THE NHC TRACK FORECAST SHOWING THE
CYCLONE REMAINING INLAND...THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR
STEADY WEAKENING WITH DISSIPATION EXPECTED BY 72 HOURS. IF THE
CENTER REMAINS OVER WATER LONGER...THE CIRCULATION COULD PERSIST
LONGER AND WEAKEN SLOWER THAN SHOWN HERE.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 19/0900Z 24.8N 108.2W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 19/1800Z 25.3N 108.2W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
24H 20/0600Z 25.5N 108.3W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND
36H 20/1800Z 25.6N 108.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
48H 21/0600Z 25.7N 108.6W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
72H 22/0600Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER BRENNAN
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION HUMBERTO DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092013
500 AM AST THU SEP 19 2013

DEEP CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH HUMBERTO IS LIMITED TO A CLUSTER OF
CELLS LOCATED 100-200 N MI SOUTHEAST OF THE CENTER. THE CYCLONE IS
MAINTAINED AS A 30-KT TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOR THIS ADVISORY...BUT
IT COULD BE CLOSE TO BECOMING POST-TROPICAL. THE GLOBAL MODELS
HAVE ALL TRENDED TOWARDS SHOWING THE SURFACE WIND FIELD OF HUMBERTO
OPENING UP INTO A TROUGH IN 12 TO 24 HOURS...AND IT IS POSSIBLE
THAT THE DEPRESSION COULD DISSIPATE EARLIER THAN WE HAVE BEEN
INDICATING. FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST
SHOWS POINTS OUT TO 36 HOURS. IF IT DOES LAST THAT LONG...HUMBERTO
SHOULD ULTIMATELY BE ABSORBED BY A FRONTAL ZONE BY 48 HOURS.

A MORE WELL-DEFINED SURFACE CENTER HAS FORMED...BUT THAT NOW PUTS
HUMBERTO ABOUT A DEGREE WEST OF THE PREVIOUS ESTIMATES.
REGARDLESS...THE DEPRESSION IS STILL MOVING GENERALLY NORTHWARD
AROUND 7 KT. AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT FROM THE WEST IS EXPECTED
TO CAUSE HUMBERTO TO TURN NORTHEASTWARD AND ACCELERATE WITHIN 24
HOURS AND THEN MAINTAIN THAT HEADING UNTIL IT IS ABSORBED. THE NHC
TRACK FORECAST IS JUST A LITTLE WEST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE DURING THE
FIRST 24 HOURS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADJUSTED INITIAL POSITION...BUT
OTHERWISE THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 19/0900Z 33.0N 44.3W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 19/1800Z 34.5N 43.6W 30 KT 35 MPH
24H 20/0600Z 36.3N 41.4W 30 KT 35 MPH
36H 20/1800Z 38.6N 38.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...POST-TROPICAL
48H 21/0600Z...ABSORBED BY A FRONT

$$
FORECASTER BERG
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BULLETIN
HURRICANE MANUEL ADVISORY NUMBER 20
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP132013
200 AM PDT THU SEP 19 2013

...MANUEL CRAWLING NORTHWARD VERY NEAR THE COAST OF MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 200 AM PDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...24.8N 108.2W
ABOUT 20 MI...35 KM NW OF ALTATA MEXICO
ABOUT 85 MI...135 KM SE OF LOS MOCHIS MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 355 DEGREES AT 3 MPH...6 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...987 MB...29.15 INCHES
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION HUMBERTO ADVISORY NUMBER 35
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092013
1100 PM AST WED SEP 18 2013

...HUMBERTO WEAKENING OVER THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM AST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...32.5N 43.4W
ABOUT 1000 MI...1605 KM WSW OF THE AZORES
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 10 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1009 MB...29.80 INCHES
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1269. barbamz

Good morning with Usagi, a dangerous beauty.
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1268. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #1
Gale Warning
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 24
15:00 PM JST September 19 2013
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Near Marianas Island

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression (1004 hPa) located at 14.0N 148.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest slowly

Dvorak intensity: T2.0

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 15.1N 147.8E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) Marianas Island
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The best way nowadays to get an education seems, to me, the military. That's the route I'm going.
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1266. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
2013SEP19 070100 6.2 923.8 +2.0 119.8 5.8 6.3 7.4 0.5T/hour ON OFF -2.58 -80.44 EYE 18 IR 73.4 17.73 -127.85

A Raw Dvorak of near 7.5!

don't get carried away silly "rabbit" typhoon
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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT THU SEP 19 2013


CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS JUST TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE BAHAMAS ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY AND A SURFACE TROUGH...AND AN
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO FORM IN THIS AREA DURING THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS DO NOT APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR
SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT...BUT THE LOW COULD STILL ACQUIRE
SOME SUBTROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS WHILE IT MOVES GENERALLY
NORTHEASTWARD OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK.
THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND A LOW CHANCE...20
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS.

INVEST 96L coming soon
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1264. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #27
Typhoon Warning
TYPHOON USAGI (T1319)
15:00 PM JST September 19 2013
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Sea East Of The Philippines

At 6:00 AM UTC, Typhoon Usagi (925 hPa) located at 17.5N 128.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 95 knots with gusts of 135 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving north northwest at 7 knots.

Storm Force Winds
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60 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
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270 NM from the center

Dvorak intensity: T6.0

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 19.4N 125.2E - 100 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon) Sea East Of The Philippines
48 HRS: 20.8N 122.1E - 105 knots (CAT 5/Intense Typhoon) South Of Okinawa
72 HRS: 21.7N 118.6E - 95 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon) Northern South China Sea
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AL, 09, 2013091906, , BEST, 0, 330N, 445W, 30, 1009, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 170, 150, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, HUMBERTO, M,
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1262. guygee
Quoting 1257. weather12know:


Older generation did it, don't see why the new generation can't...
Rising tuition, Pell Grants decimated, privatized student loans with high interest, labor unions destroyed, death of the middle class, the "Great Recession", jobs lost to computers and robots or sent to Asia ... good luck, kids!
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I dont know what to say
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AL, 95, 2013091906, , BEST, 0, 202N, 934W, 25, 1004, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1008, 160, 110, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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Manuel remains at 65 kts.

EP, 13, 2013091906, , BEST, 0, 247N, 1082W, 65, 987, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 10, 0, 0, 1006, 90, 15, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, MANUEL, M,
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Quoting 1189. daddyjames:


I agree - its freaking ridiculous. I don;t see how this is not going to undermine our society on a whole. There is no way that you can go to college, work, and pay for everything.


Older generation did it, don't see why the new generation can't...
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Quoting 1252. HurrMichaelOrl:


Yeah, we'll live, and every plant in the area will be thankful. I hope rainfall is not sufficient to cause severe flooding. I don't think severe flooding is likely.


Hope the rainfall totals are lower for sure.
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Quoting 1250. whitewabit:
are there any radars on along the western coast of Mexico ??


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Manual will dump a lot of rain moving very slowly north at 3mph.
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Quoting 1208. daddyjames:


I think it'll be ok in the long run. Florida has suffered worse. Of course, I could be totally wrong.


Yeah, we'll live, and every plant in the area will be thankful. I hope rainfall is not sufficient to cause severe flooding. I don't think severe flooding is likely.
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Quoting 1250. whitewabit:
are there any radars on along the western coast of Mexico ??


#1248 Guasave,Mexico
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1250. whitewabit (Mod)
are there any radars on along the western coast of Mexico ??
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