Unusual Chantal Disorganized, but has 65 mph Winds

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 8:06 PM GMT on July 09, 2013

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Unusual Tropical Storm Chantal has strengthened a bit more as it speeds west-northwestwards at 26 mph away from the the Lesser Antilles Islands. Sustained winds of 38 mph, gusting to 52 mph, were observed at Martinique at 10 am AST as the storm passed. However, an automated weather station at the airport measured sustained winds of 60 mph, gusting to 78 mph, according to an official with Meteo-France. The Associated Press reported that Chantal ripped the roofs off of several homes on neighboring Dominica. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft measured top winds at their 1,000' flight level of 89 mph at 12:55 pm AST. Top winds seen by the aircraft's SFMR instrument were about 65 mph, in a small area east of Chantal's center. The Hurricane Hunters have departed Chantal, and the next plane is due in the storm at 8 pm EDT. Chantal's winds are unusually high considering the storm's high central pressure of 1006 mb and disorganized appearance on satellite imagery. Chantal is fighting dry air associated with the Saharan Air Layer (SAL), as seen on water vapor satellite loops. This dry air is creating strong thunderstorm downdrafts that are robbing Chantal of moisture and energy. Visible satellite loops show the outflow boundaries of these thunderstorm downdrafts at the surface, spreading to the northwest of Chantal. Martinique Radar shows a large area of heavy rain that is not well-organized, lying mostly to the west of the Lesser Antilles Islands.


Figure 1. MODIS image of Chantal taken at approximately 1 pm EDT Tuesday, July 9, 2013. At the time, Chantal had top winds of 65 mph, but looked very disorganized, due to high wind shear and dry air. Dry air is creating strong thunderstorm downdrafts that are robbing Chantal of moisture and energy. Outflow boundaries from these downdrafts are spreading out to the northwest of Chantal, as seen on this satellite image. Image credit: NASA.

An small-scale easterly jet creating high shear in Chantal
Chantal is not very impressive on satellite images, with a modest amount of heavy thunderstorms that are not well-organized. Only a small amount of upper-level outflow is visible. The reason for Chantal's rather disorganized appearance can be found by looking at this morning's balloon sounding from Guadaloupe. This island was just northwest of the center of Chantal when the balloon was launched at 8 am EDT. The sounding showed typical easterly trade winds at the surface of 12 knots (14 mph.) However, the winds rose quickly aloft, with a jet of easterly winds of 35 - 53 knots between 800 - 600 mb (about 7,000 - 15,000'.) But, by the time the ballon hit 500 mb (18,000'), the winds had died down to 15 knots. A change of wind speed from 12 knots to 53 knots and back down to 15 knots from the surface to 500 mb is a tremendous amount of wind shear, which will make it very difficult for a tropical storm to keep the surface center aligned with the upper level center. The traditional measure of wind shear, the difference in wind between 200 mb and 850 mb, was 44 knots in this morning's Guadaloupe sounding, but was a much higher 56 knots from 200 mb to 700 mb. The powerful easterly wind jet was not apparent at any of the other balloon soundings this morning at adjacent islands (Barbados, Puerto Rico, Saint Martin), and demonstrates that there is a lot going on the atmosphere at small scales we cannot see which makes intensity forecasting of tropical cyclones very challenging. Thanks go to Jason Dunion of NOAA's Hurricane Research Division for pointing out this morning's interesting Guadaloupe sounding.

Forecast for Chantal
Chantal will have difficulty intensifying much more before hitting Hispaniola on Wednesday afternoon. In their 11 am EDT wind probability forecast, NHC gave Chantal a 29% chance of becoming a hurricane before hitting Hispaniola. Working against intensification will be the high wind shear from the strong mid-level easterly jet discussed above, plus the fast forward speed of the storm--tropical storms moving faster than 20 mph in the deep tropics usually have trouble intensifying. In addition, the Eastern Caribbean is an area where the trade winds accelerate, helping drive sinking air that discourages tropical storm intensification. Dry air will also slow down the intensification process. Interaction with the high mountains of Hispaniola and high wind shear may be able to destroy Chantal by Thursday. The 2 pm EDT Tuesday wind shear forecast from the SHIPS model calls for shear to rise to the high range, 20 - 35 knots, Tuesday night through Friday. On Saturday, when Chantal is expected to be in the Bahamas, moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots is predicted. If Chantal survives until Saturday, it will then have the opportunity to re-strengthen. The latest 12Z run of the European model (ECMWF) dissipates Chantal as it crosses Hispaniola. The 12Z run of the American GFS model has Chantal barely surviving.

Chantal's fast west-northwest forward speed of 26 mph will slow to 20 mph by Wednesday morning and then 10 mph by Thursday night, as the storm "feels" the presence of a trough of low pressure over the U.S. East Coast. This trough will steer Chantal to the northwest and then north-northwest across Hispaniola and into the Bahamas. The trough of low pressure pulling Chantal northwards is expected to lift out the the northeast over the weekend, leaving Chantal behind off the coast of Florida. High pressure will likely build in, potentially forcing Chantal westwards into the Florida or Southeast U.S. coast, with a possible Sunday landfall.

Jeff Masters

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I say dead, but looking on the shortwave IR channel 2 imagery, I can see some spin around 16N 58W, you have to really slow it down and look close. And there is some moderate (albeit sheared) thunderstorm activity in that general area. But low level winds do not support closed LLC. Perhaps mid levels? IDK.
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Quoting 1737. wxchaser97:

Not even Ernesto or Isaac could achieve this level of beauty.
Lol You make me spit my tea.
Quoting 1704. MrstormX:
It's a shame Venezuela wouldn't let them in, but at the same time when one country has a monopoly on the hurricane business another is bound to be jealous. :p
Even though I don`t believe it was correct for what the Venezuelan government did I understand its point none of the latin american countries are trusting the US right now after what happen.
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1834. 7544
hmmm is this new

Link
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1833. hu2007
click clock time is running out for chantal
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To follow you up Astometeor on #1822. These posters who think they are experts are young, brash, sometimes full of themselves; just like almost all of us were at that age. They are informed, have spent years studying what they love, and generally make a lot of sense and keep enthusiasts like myself in the loop. They are going into the field and a great resource of accurate data and prognosis they do provide. People shouldn't get life and death info from a blog alone, but in storms like Katrina and others, I believe, this blog has saved lives and is a great resource. Keep it up young guns.
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1831. nigel20
I'm out...see you guys later in the afternoon or evening.
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Quoting 1803. TomTaylor:
WINDSAT is way off. Winds in the central caribbean are easterly, not northerly. Incredibly unreliable satellite.


When isn't WindSAT off? That satellite has some problems.
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Shear Tendency Loop

700-850 HPA Layer Steering Loop
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1828. sar2401
Quoting hu2007:
still chantal have one more live before game over xD

Maybe if Chantal was a cat but, as a tropical storm, she has just about run out of gas.
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Quoting 1806. oceanspringsMS:
Have lived on the Gulf for my entire life which covers 56 years. From Brownsville, TX to Pascagoula, MS. Have hunkered down numerous times, but gotten the heck out as well. The internet, including this site which I believe the 1st time I used it was 2003, is great info for making informed decisions about staying or going.INMO as long as you are prepared,go no go window is between 72-48 hours before landfall. Use the data from NHC,satellites and radar,to make an informed decision. Don't listen to the posters that think they are experts. I wish that the forecasters would get out of the habit of making dire predictions every year, as well. When they don't happen, I think a lot of people lose faith in their predictions and tend to ignore storms when they are really threatening
We never claims to be expert. This is just a great place to share our knowledge about storms with other people that found the storms interesting. The only place where the information should be reliable is Jeff Masters' posts himself. This blog is not for a purpose of accurate informations anyway. NHC's site is a excellent place to find informations about hurricanes.
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1826. hu2007
15 mph loss in 4 hours that is nasty downgrade
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1825. sar2401
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
I think Chantal may redevelop its self when D-max arrives

WKC, DMaX is about 4 hours away, and Chantal continues to collapse. What do you think is magically going to happen to make Chantal redevlop herself, especially when she's now clocking along at 30 mph? I'm sure you'll have a storm headed our way sometime this year, but Chantal is not going to be the one. I guess there is the hope that, if she continues west, she'll be a remnant low and at least bring you some rain.
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Caribbean Low-Level Jet (CLLJ) does it again. Fast forward speed isn't the problem. The problem is winds are accelerating ahead of the storm. When weak storms, such as Chantal, enter the east Caribbean, the accelerating trade winds in the central Caribbean rip open the storms circulation, preventing the storm from maintaining a closed circulation. Less than ideal upper-level conditions also made the storm more susceptible to this problem. Seen it many times. Chantal is just another victim of the "East Caribbean dead zone".

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1823. hu2007
still chantal have one more live before game over xD
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Quoting 1806. oceanspringsMS:
Have lived on the Gulf for my entire life which covers 56 years. From Brownsville, TX to Pascagoula, MS. Have hunkered down numerous times, but gotten the heck out as well. The internet, including this site which I believe the 1st time I used it was 2003, is great info for making informed decisions about staying or going.INMO as long as you are prepared,go no go window is between 72-48 hours before landfall. Use the data from NHC,satellites and radar,to make an informed decision. Don't listen to the posters that think they are experts. I wish that the forecasters would get out of the habit of making dire predictions every year, as well. When they don't happen, I think a lot of people lose faith in their predictions and tend to ignore storms when they are really threatening


Idk, it would be kinda hard for forecasters to show their true colors in reference to their feelings on the the season other than the prediction ranges they give out. If they got more specific towards the general public, the public would just fall asleep. I think it comes more down to each storm on relying on folks. And, I think that while you are correct on making your own decision, the posters here are really knowledgeable and good for specific opinions on scenarios and last-minute advice for folks who need it the most.
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I believe the National Hurricane Center is waiting for the Hurricane Hunters to complete their mission and confirm that Tropical Storm Chantal has dissipated and opened up into a tropical wave before doing so themselves. Where the NHC currently has the center, the Hurricane Hunters were finding consistent SE winds which they've been finding pretty much the entire mission which lends support to the all-but-given fact that Tropical Storm Chantal has opened into a tropical wave.
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1820. hu2007
im surprise that is still alive but drop 10 mph
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Quoting 1811. CaicosRetiredSailor:
...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF PUERTO RICO...

2:00 AM AST Wed Jul 10
Location: 15.5°N 68.0°W
Moving: W at 30 mph
Min pressure: 1011 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph


there is no indication of any center being there
moving W yes at 30 will maybe maybe not
pressure ok makes sense
winds should be lower
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New TWO out 2 am 50 mph TS with track further west closer to FL.
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Quoting 1813. KoritheMan:


o_o

Chantal would need to slow down and have the cllj stop destroying it before it could strengthen. It's pretty much done.
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Still a TS!
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1815. sar2401
Quoting GTstormChaserCaleb:
The CMC hasn't given up yet.


No, but I'm pretty much ready to give up on the CMC. it had a 993mb hurricane over my house last week that was supposed to develop from 94L It's had hurricanes on the east and west coast of Florida from Chantal, seemingly changing positions at random. Except for Andrea, the CMC performance has been less than stellar.

I'd also remind folks here that my forecast two days ago was a 60 mph storm hitting the DR, getting torn up, emerging as weak TD over Cuba, getting torn up again, and ending up in the Gulf as a remnant low. It looks like I may have been generous on the 60 mph part, but I've also been observing hurricanes long enough to know that his could all change again in the next 12 hours, so I'm not ready to "toot my own horn" yet.

The one observation I'd like to make is there has been an exceptional amount of doomcasting with Chantal from a few people here. I think some of this is to stir the pot, some is the excitement of hoping to see something flattened, and some has been pure ignorance. I know it's been a few years since there was a major to track, and the setup this year looks threatening, but every small and disorganized TS is not going to be a major, and the next wave from Africa is probably not going to be the one to flatten Miami. I just hope the folks who are just learning can take some lessons from the last several weeks and wait until we have some real storms to get excited about. We were up to over 300 posts an hour at one time today, all over a storm which, by any objective measure, was never going to much more than what we saw yesterday. If we keep this up for every tropical wave and ITCZ low, we'll end up crashing all the servers WU and TWC ever thought about buying. :-)
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Quoting 1807. KoritheMan:


I meant up until it reached the Bahamas.
I got you. I agree with that it still would have had to go through Hispaniola.
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Quoting 1808. wxchaser97:
...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF PUERTO RICO...
2:00 AM AST Wed Jul 10
Location: 15.5°N 68.0°W
Moving: W at 30 mph
Min pressure: 1011 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph


o_o
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I think Chantal may redevelop its self when D-max arrives
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...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF PUERTO RICO...

2:00 AM AST Wed Jul 10
Location: 15.5N 68.0W
Moving: W at 30 mph
Min pressure: 1011 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph

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1810. jabjb2

000
WTNT33 KNHC 100547
TCPAT3

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM CHANTAL INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 9A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032013
200 AM AST WED JUL 10 2013

...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF
PUERTO RICO...


SUMMARY OF 200 AM AST...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.5N 68.0W
ABOUT 235 MI...380 KM SSW OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
ABOUT 230 MI...370 KM SSE OF SANTO DOMINGO DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 30 MPH...48 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1011 MB...29.85 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC HAS DISCONTINUED THE
HURRICANE WATCH FROM BARAHONA TO SAMANA.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* PUERTO RICO
* ENTIRE COAST OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
* ENTIRE COAST OF HAITI
* TURKS AND CAICOS
* SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS
* VIEQUES AND CULEBRA
* CENTRAL BAHAMAS

INTERESTS IN EASTERN CUBA AND THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF CHANTAL.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA IN THE UNITED
STATES...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
FORECAST OFFICE. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA
OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR
NATIONAL METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT AND SATELLITE
IMAGES INDICATE THAT CHANTAL IS LOSING ORGANIZATION.

AT 200 AM AST...0600 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM CHANTAL WAS
ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.5 NORTH...LONGITUDE 68.0 WEST. CHANTAL
HAS MOVED RAPIDLY WESTWARD NEAR 30 MPH...48 KM/H OVER THE PAST FEW
HOURS...AND A WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION WITH A GRADUAL DECREASE IN
FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED TODAY. A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS
EXPECTED BY THURSDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF
CHANTAL IS EXPECTED TO BE NEAR OR OVER HISPANIOLA BY THIS
AFTERNOON. CHANTAL IS EXPECTED TO BE NEAR EASTERN CUBA EARLY
THURSDAY AND OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN OR CENTRAL BAHAMAS LATER ON
THURSDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE DECREASED TO NEAR 50 MPH...85
KM/H...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED
BEFORE CHANTAL REACHES HISPANIOLA...BUT WEAKENING IS FORECAST AFTER
THAT TIME.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 90 MILES...150 KM...
MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1011 MB...29.85 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS COULD OCCUR ACROSS PORTIONS OF
PUERTO RICO DURING THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REACH THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC LATER THIS
MORNING. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN HAITI LATER
TODAY. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE SOUTHEASTERN
BAHAMAS...THE TURKS AND CAICOS...AND PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS ON THURSDAY.

STORM SURGE...A STORM SURGE...ACCOMPANIED BY DANGEROUS WAVES...WILL
RAISE WATER LEVELS BY AS MUCH AS 1 TO 3 FEET IN THE TROPICAL STORM
WARNING AREA.

RAINFALL...CHANTAL IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS
3 TO 6 INCHES OVER PUERTO RICO...THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS...THE
SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS...THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND HAITI. ISOLATED
MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE OVER HISPANIOLA.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...500 AM AST.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/BLAKE
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Poor Chantal.

Not gonna completely write it off just yet. It could still have a chance once it traverses the Greater Antilles.

Hopefully she dissipates and never comes back though, what a royal pain in the butt.
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...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF PUERTO RICO...
2:00 AM AST Wed Jul 10
Location: 15.5°N 68.0°W
Moving: W at 30 mph
Min pressure: 1011 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph
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Quoting 1801. GTstormChaserCaleb:
What about the COL that Levi was showing where 2 ULL's one to the west and the other to the east with a high above would have provided good ventilation for the system? Would have that been favorable for strengthening?


I meant up until it reached the Bahamas.
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Have lived on the Gulf for my entire life which covers 56 years. From Brownsville, TX to Pascagoula, MS. Have hunkered down numerous times, but gotten the heck out as well. The internet, including this site which I believe the 1st time I used it was 2003, is great info for making informed decisions about staying or going.INMO as long as you are prepared,go no go window is between 72-48 hours before landfall. Use the data from NHC,satellites and radar,to make an informed decision. Don't listen to the posters that think they are experts. I wish that the forecasters would get out of the habit of making dire predictions every year, as well. When they don't happen, I think a lot of people lose faith in their predictions and tend to ignore storms when they are really threatening
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Quoting 1800. Skyepony:
OSCAT


Shows the textbook definition of a sharp, robust tropical wave; definitely not a tropical cyclone.
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM CHANTAL INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 9A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032013
200 AM AST WED JUL 10 2013

...CHANTAL BECOMING DISORGANIZED WHILE IT PASSES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF
PUERTO RICO...


SUMMARY OF 200 AM AST...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.5N 68.0W
ABOUT 235 MI...380 KM SSW OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
ABOUT 230 MI...370 KM SSE OF SANTO DOMINGO DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 30 MPH...48 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1011 MB...29.85 INCHES
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WINDSAT is way off. Winds in the central caribbean are easterly, not northerly. Incredibly unreliable satellite.

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1802. 7544
Quoting 1787. Stormchaser121:
If at the 2am advisory Chantal is still a TS...im not giving up on it. Even after that im not giving up because once she gets past the shear...possibly into the Gulf...BAM she will come back.
Quoting 1791. wunderkidcayman:

the plane is already in took off not too long ago


ill have to give it till dmax is over tonight she likes those hours along with that ull lol

and thanks wunder kid
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Quoting 1768. KoritheMan:


The upstream conditions were never really favorable. I don't know if I'd use quite such strong wording, lol.
What about the COL that Levi was showing where 2 ULL's one to the west and the other to the east with a high above would have provided good ventilation for the system? Would have that been favorable for strengthening?
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1800. Skyepony (Mod)
OSCAT
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some on here was saying that a possible spin or mid level spin near 16/17M 66/67W well recon pass through there and nothing
recon location 14.5N 68.4W
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Na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye
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All the data coming in from the Hurricane Hunters, the latest pass from the WindSAT, as well as the continued further disorganization and collapse of thunderstorms on satellite all seem to suggest that this may very well be the end for Tropical Storm Chantal as there is no indication whatsoever that a low level circulation exists.
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Unlike two hours ago, recon is now in Venezuelan airspace.

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1795. hu2007
and i think right now that chantal has become ill define and i dont be surprise that is a open wave now. let see what is next down the pipe
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Quoting 1789. Bluestorm5:
I got to be honest, I enjoy being here even more late at night with many knowledge being shared.


Ah, you've discovered our secret. :)
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1793. nigel20
Quoting 1781. tropicfreak:


Try this bad boy, Ivan.



He was a hurricane before the lesser antillies too.

Yeah, we were pretty lucky here in Jamaica. I was pretty surprised when I heard that it didn't make direct impact on us. You could see widespread damage across the island.

In excess of 110 knots was measured by our radar...just aboout 50km to our south.
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1792. hu2007
hi everyone,here in puerto rico all day tuesday was brezzy and variably clouds but mostly in the north part of the island and there was some passing light showers with gust up to 25 to 30 mph and then came this evening and got gustier but brief and there was this unique and only band of heavy thunderstorm that passed over my area and i got a wind gust up to 32 mph and flashes of electric lines on the horizon and that too was brief but more intense and right now after that squall everything is quiet.hardly any wind and some light rain but today chantal may come back with more rain here in pr one more time before dissipate over hispañola. o and by the way? i was right about the westerly hitting on chantal.
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Quoting 1786. 7544:
what time will the plane go in

the plane is already in took off not too long ago
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Yeah...

I think it's time to say good-bye.

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I got to be honest, I enjoy being here even more late at night with many knowledge being shared.
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Well, well, well, something escaped our attention today:

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If at the 2am advisory Chantal is still a TS...im not giving up on it. Even after that im not giving up because once she gets past the shear...possibly into the Gulf...BAM she will come back.
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1786. 7544
what time will the plane go in
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