Over 500 Killed in India's Monsoon Floods

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:25 PM GMT on June 21, 2013

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Earth's deadliest natural disaster so far in 2013 is the deadly flooding in India's Himalayan Uttarakhand region, where torrential monsoon rains have killed at least 556 people, with hundreds more feared dead. At least 5,000 people are missing. According to the Indian Meteorological Department, Uttarakhand received more than three times (329%) of its normal June rainfall from June 1 - 21, and rainfall was 847% of normal during the week June 13 - 19. Satellite estimates indicate that more than 20" (508 mm) or rain fell in a 7-day period from June 11 - 17 over some regions of Uttarakhand, which lies just to the west of Nepal in the Himalayas. Dehradun, the capital of Uttarakhand, received 14.57" (370 mm) of rain in 24 hours on June 16 - 17. This was the highest 24-hour rainfall in city history, according to an official from the India Meteorological Department. Dr. Dave Petley's Landslide Blog details that the torrential rains triggered a massive landslide that hit Uttarakhand's Hindu shrine in Kedarnath, which lies just a short distance from the snout of two mountain glaciers. The shrine is an important pilgrimage destination this time of year, and was packed with visitors celebrating the char-dham yatra: a pilgrimage to the four holy sites of Gangotri, Kedarnath, Yamnotri and Badrinath. Apparently, heavy rainfall triggered a collapse event on the mountain above Kedarnath, which turned into a debris flow downstream that struck the town. The main temple was heavily damaged, and numerous buildings in the town were demolished. It was Earth's deadliest landslide since the August 2010 Zhouqu landslide in China.

According to Aon Benfield's May Catastrophe Report, Earth's deadliest natural disasters of 2013 so far:

Winter weather, India, Bangladesh, Nepal, 1/1 - 1/20, 329 deaths
Earthquake, China, 4/20, 196 deaths
Flooding, Southern Africa, 1/10 - 2/28, 175 deaths
Flooding, Argentina, 4/2 - 4/4, 70 deaths
Flooding, Kenya, 3/10 - 4/30, 66 deaths


Figure 1. Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) arrive to rescue stranded Sikh devotees from Hemkunt Sahib Gurudwara, a religious Sikh temple, to a safe place in Chamoli district, in northern Indian state of Uttarakhand, India, Monday, June 17, 2013. AP photo.


Figure 2. Satellite-estimated rainfall for the 7-day period June 11 - 17, 2013, from NASA's TRMM satellite exceeded 20 inches (508 mm) over portions of India's Uttarakhand province, leading to catastrophic floods. Image credit: NASA.

A record early arrival of the monsoon
The June 2013 monsoon rains in Uttarakhand were highly unusual, as the monsoon came to the region two weeks earlier than normal. The monsoon started in South India near the normal June 1 arrival date, but then advanced across India in unusually rapid fashion, arriving in Pakistan along the western border of India on June 16, a full month earlier than normal. This was the fastest progression of the monsoon on record. The previous record for fastest monsoon progression occurred in 1961, when all of India was under monsoon conditions by June 21. Reliable monsoon records go back to 1961, and are patchy before then. Fortunately, no more heavy rain is expected in Uttarakhand over the next few days, as the monsoon will be active only in eastern India. Heavy rains are expected again in the region beginning on June 24. Wunderblogger Lee Grenci's post, Summer Monsoon Advances Rapidly across India: Massive Flooding Ensues, has more detail on the meteorology of this year's monsoon. There is criticism from some that the devastating floods were not entirely a natural disaster--human-caused deforestation, dam building, and mining may have contributed. "Large-scale construction of dams and absence of environmental regulations has led to the floods," said Sunita Narian, director general of Delhi based advocacy group Centre for Science and Environment (CSE).


Figure 3. The summer monsoon arrived in southwest India right on schedule (June 1) in South India, but it spread northward much faster than usual, reaching Pakistan a full month earlier than normal. Solid green contours indicate the progress of the 2013 summer monsoon (each contour is labeled with a date). You can compare this year's rapid advance to a "normal" progression, which is represented by the dashed, red contours (also labeled with dates).

Monsoons in India: a primer
Disastrous monsoon floods are common in India and surrounding nations, and 60,000 people--an average of 500 people per year--died in India due to monsoon floods between 1900 - 2012, according to EM-DAT, the International Disaster Database. EM-DAT lists sixteen flood disasters which killed 1,000 or more people in India since records began in 1950. Here are the number of people killed in these events, along with the month and year of occurrence and locales affected:

4892, Jul 1968, Rajasthan, Gujara
3800, Jul 1978, North, Northeast
2001, May - Oct, 1994, Assam, Arunachal Pradesh
2000, Jul 1961, North
1811, Aug 1998, Assam, Arunachal, Bihar
1600, Aug 1980, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar
1591, Jul 28, 1989, Maharashtra, Andhra Prade
1479, Sep 1995, Bihar, Haryana, Punjab
1442, Aug 1997, Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal
1200, Jul 24 - Aug 5, 2005 Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh
1200, Aug 1987, Assam, Bihar, West Bengal
1103, Jul 3 - Sep 22, 2007, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh
1063, Jun 11 - Jul 21, 2008 West Bengal, Orissa
1023, Jun 1971, North
1000, Sep 22 - Oct 9, 1988, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh
1000, Oct 1961

The monsoon occurs in summer, when the sun warms up land areas more strongly than ocean areas. This happens because wind and ocean turbulence mix the ocean's absorbed heat into a "mixed layer" approximately 50 meters deep, whereas on land, the sun's heat penetrates at a slow rate to a limited depth. Furthermore, due to its molecular properties, water has the ability to absorb more heat than the solid materials that make up land. As a result of this summertime differential heating of land and ocean, a low pressure region featuring rising air develops over land areas. Moisture-laden ocean winds blow towards the low pressure region and are drawn upwards once over land. The rising air expands and cools, condensing its moisture into some of the heaviest rains on Earth--the monsoon. Monsoons operate via the same principle as the familiar summer afternoon sea breeze, but on a grand scale. Each summer, monsoons affect every continent on Earth except Antarctica, and are responsible for life-giving rains that sustain the lives of billions of people. In India, home for over 1.1 billion people, the monsoon provides 80% of the annual rainfall. The most deadly flooding events usually come from monsoon depressions (also known as monsoon lows.) A monsoon depression is similar to (but larger than) a tropical depression. Both are spinning storms hundreds of kilometers in diameter with sustained winds of 50 - 55 kph (30 - 35 mph), nearly calm winds at their center, and generate very heavy rains. Typically, 6 - 7 monsoon depressions form each summer over the Bay of Bengal and track westwards across India.

The future of monsoons in India
A warming climate loads the dice in favor of heavier extreme precipitation events. This occurs because more water vapor can evaporate into a warmer atmosphere, increasing the chances of record heavy downpours. In a study published in Science in 2006, Goswami et al. found that the level of heavy rainfall activity in the monsoon over India had more than doubled in the 50 years since the 1950s, leading to an increased disaster potential from heavy flooding. Moderate and weak rain events decreased during those 50 years, leaving the total amount of rain deposited by the monsoon roughly constant. The authors commented, "These findings are in tune with model projections and some observations that indicate an increase in heavy rain events and a decrease in weak events under global warming scenarios." We should expect to see an increased number of disastrous monsoon floods in coming decades if the climate continues to warm as expected. Since the population continues to increase at a rapid rate in the region, death tolls from monsoon flooding disasters are likely to climb dramatically in coming decades. However, my greater concern for India is drought. The monsoon rains often fail during El Niño years, and more than 4.2 million people died in India due to droughts between 1900 - 2012. Up until the late 1960s, it was common for the failure of the monsoon rains to kill millions of people in India. The drought of 1965 - 1967 killed at least 1.5 million people. However, since the Green Revolution of the late 1960s--a government initiative to improve food self-sufficiency using new technology and high-yield grains--failure of the monsoon rains has not led to mass starvation in India. It is uncertain whether of not the Green Revolution can keep up with India's booming population, and the potential that climate change might bring more severe droughts. Climate models show a wide range of possibilities for the future of the Indian monsoon, and it is unclear at present what the future might hold. However, the fact that one of the worst droughts in India's history occurred in 2009 shows that serious droughts have to be a major concern for the future. The five worst Indian monsoons along with the rainfall deficits for the nation:

1) 1877, -33%
2) 1899, -29%
3) 1918, -25%
4) 1972, -24%
5) 2009, -22%

References
Goswami, et al., 2006, " Increasing Trend of Extreme Rain Events Over India in a Warming Environment", Science, 1 December 2006:Vol. 314. no. 5804, pp. 1442 - 1445 DOI: 10.1126/science.1132027

Wunderground's climate change blogger Dr. Ricky Rood wrote a nice 3-part series about the challenges India faces due to climate change after he completed a 2009 trip there.


Video 1. Flood waters claim a multi-story apartment building in Uttarakhand province, India, on June 17, 2013.

Historic flooding in Calgary, Alberta
Torrential rainfall on Wednesday night and Thursday has resulted in the most extensive flooding in Alberta Province, Canada in at least 8 years, with some 100,000 people facing evacuations in the city of Calgary. Wunderblogger Christopher C. Burt has a look at the disaster in his latest post. The floods are due, in part to the "stuck" jet stream pattern that brought record heat to Alaska this week.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting sar2401:

No, South Alabama. Denial? Not at all, but I do wonder if, 40 years from now, everything in that video will all come true either.


It might take longer but so far major projections (IPCC) underestimated the sea level rise. James Hansen thinks even 5 meter are possible by the end of the century.

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1757. sar2401
Quoting AussieStorm:
sar2401 you have WU-Mail

Got it. I still use the classic format also. Maybe I'm just a Luddite or something, but it seems to me that the classic format is a lot easier to navigate and uses up a lot less resources on my creaky old computer.
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Quoting caneswatch:


Ah yes, I know of there!
What do you know? Post a picture of the chow mein I remember and I'm picking up Gro and taking a road trip to check it out.
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1755. sar2401
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

Are you from South Florida or why so much denial?

No, South Alabama. Denial? Not at all, but I do wonder if, 40 years from now, everything in that video will all come true either.
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One sound I'll never forget is when you could hear the backside of Elena coming as the wind came up fast...after that eye passed over.

First you hear it coming and if you have never experienced that, you wont forget it if you do.









Funny that you mention Elena Pat.....I first moved to Naples Florida in August 1985.....Elena came by the Keys and about 150? miles off the Naples coast......we had a skinny feeder band come through one night...was just the tail end and just from that the wind picked up to like 30 and ya could feel her energy....eerie feeling....my first experience with a Hurricane. Sorry if that was too long.
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After yesterday's Low pressure system...and today's scattered thunderstorms...i'd say eastern NC and localized areas around my area are done with rain for awhile.
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Special Announcement On Flooding In Northern New Territories

Special Announcement on Flooding in the northern New Territories updated by the Hong Kong Observatory at 6:30 a.m. on 24 June.

Heavy rain is affecting the northern part of the New Territories, especially in San Tin and Ngau Tam Mei area(s). More than 100 millimetres of rainfall have been recorded in the past 6 hours.

Residents in the northern New Territories, who are likely to be affected, are advised to take necessary precautions to avoid possible flood damage. Heavy rain may bring about flash floods. People should stay away from watercourses. They should also pay attention to the flood sirens if they are nearby.

Dispatched by Hong Kong Observatory at 06:30 HKT on 24.06.2013







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Quoting sar2401:
And we're still waiting...

Are you from South Florida or why so much denial?
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Joy Luck down here in Palm Springs.


Ah yes, I know of there!
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1749. sar2401
Quoting FLwolverine:
Yes, sir. Your comparison was quite clear. It was Sar who mentioned Nick and Nora in the same breath as Cosme.

Yes, it was me that bollixed the whole thing up. All I really remember is it was in black and white, had a man and a woman in it, and the dog was really cute and smart...unlike my dog, who takes after his owner. :-)
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1748. sar2401
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

And, from 1971, it's The City That Waits to Die. And we're still waiting...
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Quoting Grothar:


I was drawing a comparison to the name Cosmo Topper and the Storm Cosme. Actually, the dog on Topper was called Neil and Asta belonged to Nick and Nora Charles.
Yes, sir. Your comparison was quite clear. It was Sar who mentioned Nick and Nora in the same breath as Cosme.
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE-E FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP032013
0300 UTC MON JUN 24 2013

THERE ARE NO COASTAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN EFFECT.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION CENTER LOCATED NEAR 12.6N 104.4W AT 24/0300Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 50 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR 315 DEGREES AT 6 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1005 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 12.6N 104.4W AT 24/0300Z
AT 24/0000Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 12.3N 104.1W

FORECAST VALID 24/1200Z 13.5N 105.2W
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.
34 KT... 60NE 60SE 0SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 25/0000Z 15.1N 107.0W
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT...120NE 120SE 100SW 60NW.

FORECAST VALID 25/1200Z 16.2N 109.3W
MAX WIND 55 KT...GUSTS 65 KT.
50 KT... 50NE 40SE 0SW 40NW.
34 KT...150NE 150SE 100SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 26/0000Z 17.0N 111.6W
MAX WIND 65 KT...GUSTS 80 KT.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 40SW 40NW.
34 KT...180NE 180SE 120SW 120NW.

FORECAST VALID 27/0000Z 18.5N 116.5W
MAX WIND 50 KT...GUSTS 60 KT.
50 KT... 40NE 40SE 0SW 40NW.
34 KT...100NE 100SE 100SW 100NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 150 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 175 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 15 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 28/0000Z 20.0N 121.5W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 29/0000Z 20.5N 126.5W...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
MAX WIND 25 KT...GUSTS 35 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 12.6N 104.4W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 24/0900Z
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1744. Grothar
Quoting FLwolverine:
Cosme? The dog was Asta. Who was Cosme?


I was drawing a comparison to the name Cosmo Topper and the Storm Cosme. Actually, the dog on Topper was called Neil and Asta belonged to Nick and Nora Charles.
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Quoting AussieStorm:

I still use the classic format because the new format I have to scroll down to comment on a quote. I never know is anyone +'s my posts, and I don't actually care :-)


Yep...I know you use the old school blog.
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Quoting sar2401:

Ya know, I just realized I had heard the name "Cosme" before, and I was wracking my brain trying to remember...until now. Nick, Nora, and Cosme. Back in the days when they made real movies.
Cosme? The dog was Asta. Who was Cosme?
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I should go to play the GA lottery. .. like right now
Lol

I still use the classic format because the new format I have to scroll down to comment on a quote. I never know if anyone 's my posts, and I don't actually care :-)
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sar2401 you have WU-Mail
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Quoting AussieStorm:

I rarely + posts. so feel privileged :-)


I should go to play the GA lottery. .. like right now
Lol
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DEPRESSION BEGINNING TO MOVE NORTHWESTWARD
8:00 PM PDT Sun Jun 23
Location: 12.6°N 104.4°W
Moving: NW at 7 mph
Min pressure: 1005 mb
Max sustained: 35 mph
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Ok just gotta let Aussie know this.

Post 1695... wow. I finally get a plus from you...ever since I got here.

Yes, it's a big deal in case anyone ask.

I rarely + posts. so feel privileged :-)
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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

ummmm, most of miami is man made, go figure
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 3
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP032013
800 PM PDT SUN JUN 23 2013

THERE HAS BEEN NO APPRECIABLE INCREASE IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THE
CLOUD PATTERN OF THE CYCLONE...WITH A LACK OF WELL-DEFINED
CONVECTIVE BANDING FEATURES. THE CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE IS
KEPT AT 30 KT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LATEST DVORAK DATA T-NUMBER
FROM TAFB. ALTHOUGH ATMOSPHERIC AND OCEANIC CONDITIONS CURRENTLY
FAVOR STRENGTHENING...THE BROAD NATURE OF THE SYSTEM IS PROBABLY
HINDERING THE PACE OF DEVELOPMENT. GIVEN THE CONDUCIVE
ENVIRONMENT...GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IS PREDICTED FOR THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AND THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS ESSENTIALLY A
BLEND OF THE STATISTICAL-DYNAMICAL DSHIPS AND LGEM INTENSITY MODEL
SOLUTIONS. INTERESTINGLY...THE DSHIPS FORECAST CALLS FOR A
SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER INTENSITY IN 2-3 DAYS THAN DOES LGEM. BY 72
HOURS...THE SYSTEM WILL BE MOVING OVER COOLER WATERS AND SHOULD BE
WEAKENING FAIRLY RAPIDLY.

CENTER FIXES HAVE SIGNIFICANT SCATTER BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE
CYCLONE HAS BEGUN TO MOVE NORTHWESTWARD...AND THE INITIAL MOTION
ESTIMATE IS 315/6. OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...A PRONOUNCED
MID-TROPOSPHERIC RIDGE SHOULD BECOME ESTABLISHED TO THE NORTH OF
THE TROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A TURN TOWARD
THE WEST-NORTHWEST WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED WITHIN THE
NEXT 1-2 DAYS. NEAR THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...THE SHALLOW
CYCLONE SHOULD TURN WESTWARD WITHIN THE LOW-LEVEL STEERING WINDS.
MOST OF THE TRACK GUIDANCE MODELS AGREE WITH THIS SCENARIO...AND
THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS ESSENTIALLY AN UPDATE OF THE
PREVIOUS ONE.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 24/0300Z 12.6N 104.4W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 24/1200Z 13.5N 105.2W 40 KT 45 MPH
24H 25/0000Z 15.1N 107.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
36H 25/1200Z 16.2N 109.3W 55 KT 65 MPH
48H 26/0000Z 17.0N 111.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
72H 27/0000Z 18.5N 116.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
96H 28/0000Z 20.0N 121.5W 35 KT 40 MPH
120H 29/0000Z 20.5N 126.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

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BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION THREE-E ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP032013
800 PM PDT SUN JUN 23 2013

...DEPRESSION BEGINNING TO MOVE NORTHWESTWARD...


SUMMARY OF 800 PM PDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...12.6N 104.4W
ABOUT 440 MI...710 KM S OF MANZANILLO MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB...29.68 INCHES
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Quoting AussieStorm:

If this thing hits the perfect conditions, watch it go boom


Ok just gotta let Aussie know this.

Post 1695... wow. I finally get a plus from you...ever since I got here.

Yes, it's a big deal in case anyone ask.
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Until your comment I didn't realize Cosme was a boy's name!


well, the B name was Barbara(female) so next would be male. Isn't that how it goes? Male/female/male/female ect...
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Quoting sar2401:

Well, that was certainly exciting.


We got 110MPH gusts... Earl was pretty strong. Though damages were limited.. I think because people in the N Leewards have learned from the past and especially from devastating hurricane Luis in 1995.
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Quoting sar2401:

Nah, not even close, unless you'd say the Colorado River in, say, Grand Junction, Colorado is kind of attached to the Grand Canyon too. He did this on Navajo tribal lands as part of a promotion stunt to increase tourism. Not sure how that plan would have worked out if they had needed that 10 second time delay...


Unfortunately, probably better . . . (tourism-wise):(

Kind of like that cruising by any accident thing . . .

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1727. sar2401
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Expand your field of view.. then you'll get there

If only I understood what that was supposed to mean...
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Wallenda
....As he walked the wire, he continued ... fighting the heavy wind gust, which just before the walk clocked in at 48 miles per hour midwire.

"Winds are way worse than I expected," Wallenda said while walking. When told to relax by his father, Wallenda responded, "Kind of hard to relax when you're 1500 feet above the ground."

Later, he added, "Joe Cool ain't so cool right now."

At about 13 minutes in, Wallenda had to stop and sit on the wire to steady himself to get the bounce out of the wire that resulted from the wind.

...

"I've trained very, very hard in my hometown of Sarasota, Fla.," he said. "I've trained during tropical storm Andrea with wind gusts of 52 miles per hour in a torrential downpour. I've trained with my wind machines, 91-mile-an-hour winds last week on the wires."

Wallenda also has trained to deal with the nuances of the wire itself. His uncle held tightly on to one side of the wire and the head rigger from his crew is holding tight to the other side to act as shock absorbers.

"It has a life of its own,'' Wallenda said about the wire. "It's important that I change my rhythms because I can build a frequency into this cable that will become larger and larger, and I have to slow down, speed up and adjust my step sizes, which is a key reason why my father and safety coordinator is in my ear as well. A lot of it is peace of mind as well."


http://t.today.com/news/daredevil-nik-wallenda-at tempts-new-tightrope-world-record-6C10411621
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1725. sar2401
Quoting daddyjames:
Quoting sar2401:

LOL. I was born naked and afraid but didn't get a TV show out of it. :-) For those who don't know it, Wallenda isn't doing a tightrope walk across the "Grand Canyon". He's doing it across a gorge that spans the Little Colorado River, about a mile upstream from where it meets the Colorado River. This is well east of the actual Grand Canyon, although it sounds more exciting to use "Grand Canyon" instead of "Unnamed Gorge on the Little Colorado River", I suppose. :-)



Its attached to the Grand Canyon? - close enough for me. That was insane - I was nervous watching him stand at the edge afterwards, much less while he was crossing the not-as-Grand Canyon.

Nah, not even close, unless you'd say the Colorado River in, say, Grand Junction, Colorado is kind of attached to the Grand Canyon too. He did this on Navajo tribal lands as part of a promotion stunt to increase tourism. Not sure how that plan would have worked out if they had needed that 10 second time delay...
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1724. Patrap
Published on Jun 19, 2013
Alaska is dealing with an unusual heat wave. Temperatures have reach 70 in Anchorage almost every day for more than a week, while a more remote area saw a high of 96. (June 19)

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Nobody asked you!


No one ever does. I just speak. :-p
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1721. sar2401
Quoting CaribBoy:
Hurricane Earl :)..

Well, that was certainly exciting.
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Quoting sar2401:

Are hurricanes supposed to be able to control themselves? :-) I wonder what the Florida Labor Day hurricane of 1935 would have looked like on satellite? I suspect big storms really aren't all that new.


Expand your field of view.. then you'll get there
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Quoting sar2401:

LOL. I was born naked and afraid but didn't get a TV show out of it. :-) For those who don't know it, Wallenda isn't doing a tightrope walk across the "Grand Canyon". He's doing it across a gorge that spans the Little Colorado River, about a mile upstream from where it meets the Colorado River. This is well east of the actual Grand Canyon, although it sounds more exciting to use "Grand Canyon" instead of "Unnamed Gorge on the Little Colorado River", I suppose. :-)


Its attached to the Grand Canyon? - close enough for me. That was insane - I was nervous watching him stand at the edge afterwards, much less while he was crossing the not-as-Grand Canyon.
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Quoting MississippiWx:


Darn...

Nobody asked you!
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Hurricane Earl :)..
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1716. sar2401
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


The 1935 hurricane was small in physical size. Like Andrew was.

I was thinking that as I typed it. What hurricane from pre-satellite days was (probably) the largest in diameter?
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I can breathe again.


Darn...
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1714. pottery
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I can breathe again.

When was the last time you breathed ???
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1713. sar2401
Quoting Grothar:


Actually it was George and Marion, but Nick and Nora were good, too.

Wait, now I have the "Thin Man" mixed up with "Topper" too. I really am a twit. :-)
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I can breathe again.
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1711. sar2401
Quoting sar2401:

Ya know, I just realized I had heard the name "Cosme" before, and I was wracking my brain trying to remember...until now. Nick, Nora, and Cosme. Back in the days when they made real movies.


EDIT: Yeah, that was Cosmo, for all us twits. :-) Still, it was close.
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1710. pottery

THE GOOD NEWS

The wave that's passing through here (61W) has lost most of it's Blobbiness, and fizzled out.
I really did not want a bunch of rain.

Now, back to the Scheduled nonsense.....
Carry on>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Nik Wallenda, ladies and gentlemen!
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Quoting TylerStanfield:
I'm really not buying the MJO Pulse the GFS is forecasting to verify. The pulse is for one over-hyped, which is typical of the GFS to do, and also it is much slower, which is also typical of the GFS, because timing and the GFS do not mix well.
We aren't going to be able to get a handle on what is to come for about a week, because the GFS' forecasts go out much farther than any other global models do, meaning that the more reasonable UKMET and EURO won't be picking up any leftovers that the GFS dropped because of its Super-MJO in the Eastern Pacific literally blinding it. The GFS is one of the Least accurate models in forecasting the MJO, which is to it's downfall and really is the true reason that it still falls short to the EURO, that is one of the more accurate at forecasting the MJO. I won't be paying attention too much to the models for 5-6 days until the MJO is already over Octant 8, and forcing the GFS to fix it's forecast and clearing up it's vision in spotting storms in the Atlantic.

Another thing that backs up this is the fact that other global models have began to show a storm in the Atlantic like the GFS WAS showing. I do believe we'll be seeing Chantal over the next 15 days as indicated indirectly by what you could call a glimpse of what's ahead for July.
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