Tropical Storm Barry Forms

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:49 PM GMT on June 19, 2013

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Data from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters this afternoon indicates that Tropical Storm Barry has formed in the extreme southern Gulf of Mexico. The aircraft measured winds at their flight level of 1000 feet as high as 47 mph, which implies winds of at least 40 mph at the surface, using the usual 10% reduction rule for winds measured at 1000 feet. Barry has a small but growing area of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. The thunderstorms are steadily showing more organization this afternoon, and low-level spiral bands have begun to appear. Wind shear was a moderate 15 knots on Wednesday afternoon, but is expected to fall to the light range, 5 - 10 knots, during the 12 hours before landfall. Barry is taking a very similar track Tropical Storm Marco of 2008. That storm spun up quickly in the Bay of Campeche and developed sustained winds of 65 mph before making landfall in Veracruz State of Mexico. Small storms like Barry and Marco (which was the smallest tropical storm ever recorded in the Atlantic) can experience very rapid fluctuations in intensity. The Bay of Campeche is a region where the topography aids the spin-up of tropical cyclones, and I expect Barry will have time to attain sustained winds of 65 mph before making landfall late Thursday morning or early Thursday afternoon near Veracruz, Mexico. However, since the storm is so small, these winds would affect only a very small portion of the coast. Heavy rain will be the main threat from Barry, regardless of whether or not it makes landfall as a weak or strong tropical storm. A ridge of high pressure over the Gulf of Mexico should keep any of Barry's rains from reaching the U.S. Elsewhere in the tropical Atlantic, none of the reliable computer models is showing tropical cyclone development in the next seven days.


Figure 1. MODIS satellite image of Tropical Storm Barry at 12:40 pm EDT June 19, 2013. Image credit: NASA.

Barry's place in history
Barry is the second named storm of June 2013, and its formation date of June 19 is a full six weeks earlier than the usual August 1 date of formation of the season's second storm. Only two hurricane seasons since 1851 have had as many as three tropical storms form in June: 1936 and 1968. The formation of two Gulf of Mexico storms so early in the year does not necessarily suggest that we will have an active hurricane season. June storms forming in the Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic are typically a harbinger of an active hurricane season, though.

The formation of Tropical Storm Andrea and now Tropical Storm Barry in June continues a pattern of an unusually large number of early-season Atlantic named storms we've seen in recent years. Climatologically, June is the second quietest month of the Atlantic hurricane season, behind November. During the period 1870 - 2012, we averaged one named storm every two years in June, and 0.7 named storms per year during May and June. In the nineteen years since the current active hurricane period began in 1995, there have been sixteen June named storms (if we include 2013's Tropical Storm Andrea and Tropical Storm Barry.) June activity has nearly doubled since 1995, and May activity has more than doubled (there were seventeen May storms in the 75-year period 1870 - 1994, compared to six in the nineteen-year period 1995 - 2013.) Some of this difference can be attributed to observation gaps, due to the lack of satellite data before 1966. However, even during the satellite era, we have seen an increase in both early season (May - June) and late season (November - December) Atlantic tropical storms. Dr. Jim Kossin of the University of Wisconsin looked at the reasons for this in a 2008 paper titled, "Is the North Atlantic hurricane season getting longer?" He concluded that there is a "apparent tendency toward more common early- and late-season storms that correlates with warming Sea Surface Temperature but the uncertainty in these relationships is high." He found that hurricane season for both the period 1950-2007 and 1980-2007 got longer by 5 - 10 days per decade (see my blog post on the paper.)

Portlight receives $25K grant to help victims of Oklahoma tornadoes
The disaster relief charity founded by members of the wunderground community, Portlight.org, announced this week that they had received a $25,000 grant from Americares.org to replace wheelchairs, scooters, ramps and other equipment lost or damaged in the May and June 2013 storms in Oklahoma. About 200 Oklahomans with mobility issues are expected to benefit over the next 45 days. The program is an extension of a partnership that began earlier this year to install ramps for New Jersey residents affected by Superstorm Sandy. It was also announced earlier this month that Portlight and the American Red Cross have signed a Letter of Agreement to work together in disaster response, in order to improve shelter accessibility and share resources and information.Visit Portlight's wunderground blog to learn more or to donate to this worthy cause.


Figure 2. Portlight volunteers hard at work in Moore, Oklahoma, after the devastating May 20, 2013 tornado.

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671. hangman
9:15 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Well, being this IS barry aka "bath house barry"... I'm sure their will be some blowing going on!!
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670. ncstorm
3:00 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Storms have been known to developed from frontal boundaries..

Area off the east coast


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669. cRRKampen
2:49 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting barbamz: Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now.


Derecho pattern NW Germany.

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668. SLU
2:38 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


A strong wave is due in your area in 5 days.

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667. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
2:37 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
666. MAweatherboy1
2:36 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM BARRY ADVISORY NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022013
1000 AM CDT THU JUN 20 2013

...BARRY MADE LANDFALL IN THE STATE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO...

SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.6N 96.6W
ABOUT 40 MI...60 KM NW OF VERACRUZ MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES
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665. ricderr
2:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.


this is just a sad statement by someone who started out as a weatherweenie and through education has surpassed that status...levi.....stop raining..(get it...weather pun) on the weenie wishcasting parade...without severe wind destruction...was it ever a tropical system....we can have rain and flooding by any ole storm...for it to be a true tropical system...we need pandomonium in the streets...buldings unroofed...and long lines of people standing in line for water and ice...i must agree with those...yes...barry reached wind speeds greater than 60mph...it was obvious to the untrained eye
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664. mikatnight
2:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
From the Space Newsdesk...

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663. SLU
2:34 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


How much action did u get yesterday
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662. Thrawst
2:33 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


It's been here for three days straight Boy. Not fun as you can tell -_-
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661. FIUStormChaser
2:28 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting taco2me61:
Good Morning All,
Hope all is well with everybody :o)
just thought I would check in today and see how our TS Barry is doing and see what other chatter is going own....

I have to take a few days off from here because of Surgery Tomorrow Morning.... But I hope you all play nice....


Taco :o)





I Hope everything goes okay, and you'll be back here in no time.
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660. Neapolitan
2:27 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting yoboi:



Why do you post more about the heat in Alaska than the cold temps they had this past winter?????? Do you blog less in the winter months??????
I wrote numerous times about the Alaskan cold; you must have missed it. Anyway, the heat wave is an ongoing current event, while the cold was last season's news. And, of course, there's the simple fact that parts of Alaska being colder than normal in winter isn't nearly as striking a story as parts of Alaska being hotter than they have ever been in recorded history.

(You might want to see a computer specialist about that keyboard; the question mark button appears to be registering multiple key presses instead of just the single one normally used.)

;-)
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659. taco2me61
2:25 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Good Morning All,
Hope all is well with everybody :o)
just thought I would check in today and see how our TS Barry is doing and see what other chatter is going own....

I have to take a few days off from here because of Surgery Tomorrow Morning.... But I hope you all play nice....


Taco :o)



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658. barbamz
2:24 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Some nice pictures from a nightly supercell in Melsungen/Hassia/Germany yesterday. One of the series was shot by a 17 years old guy. Well done!
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657. CaribBoy
2:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.
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656. mikatnight
2:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting ScottLincoln:

The seller's website right now seems to have the rain gauge listed on sale for $28.


I want one of those things bad. Maybe if I ask my wife real nice...
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655. barbamz
2:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting largeeyes:


It's finally some decent weather! Had Obama's helecopters overhead last night to create a nice breeze even!


Lol, largeeyes! I hope you can enjoy some beergarden in Berlin as long as the warm weather is lasting. But hurry up!
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654. ScottLincoln
2:08 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting mikatnight:


$25? Best I could come up with was around $40 + shipping.

The seller's website right now seems to have the rain gauge listed on sale for $28.
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653. barbamz
2:05 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Giving some thoughts to poor northern India and Nepal:

10 Latest Developments
Uttarakhand: hundreds feared killed, choppers can't reach Kedarnath
Edited by Surabhi Malik (With Inputs from agencies) | Updated: June 20, 2013 16:39 IST
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652. largeeyes
2:03 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting barbamz:

Lithning right now in Germany (enlarge)

Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now. My place (Mainz) wasn't affected until now by thunderstorms, just a bit cool (yes!!) wind this morning. But forecasters threaten us that an even more severe line with heavy storms (maybe tornados) should develop in France and cross us this night. The metereological situation is a bit complicated. Even the weather fans in a german blog are scratching their heads. "It's already over? Or something more to come? Where?" ....


Source to enlarge


Cloudtoptemps

What else? Strange things happen ...

One killed as roads burst in heatwave
Published: 20 Jun 13 10:01 CET


It's finally some decent weather! Had Obama's helecopters overhead last night to create a nice breeze even!
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651. mikatnight
2:00 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs


$25? Best I could come up with was around $40 + shipping.
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650. yoboi
1:58 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Neapolitan:
Such a high wouldn't surprise me; crazy stuff going on up there. Nome, Alaska, set another all-time June high-temperature record yesterday, and in doing so tied it's absolute all-time high:

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NOME AK
134 AM AKDT THU JUN 20 2013

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR JUNE...

THE 86 DEGREE TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY TIED THE ALL-TIME RECORD HOWEVER
IT WAS THE RECORD HIGHEST TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. THE
PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 84 SET TWO DAYS AGO. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF
54 DEGREES ALSO BROKE THE HIGHEST MINIMUM TEMPERATURE BY 1 DEGREE SET
BACK IN 1991.



Why do you post more about the heat in Alaska than the cold temps they had this past winter?????? Do you blog less in the winter months??????
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649. ScottLincoln
1:54 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs

Especially in rural areas away from other rain gauges!
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648. mikatnight
1:49 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Levi32:
Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.



Hi Levi,
Checking out your vid on Tropical Tidbits - almost watched the whole thing b4 my internet connection went splat. Absolutely stellar presentation. Going back to finish it in a sec (also going to add that link to the Hurricane Protocol guide post haste), but wanted to ask here on Masters' blog if you still think possible Modiki scenario?

Also - I'm trying to get folks to check out my post on surge protection. People really need to make sure they're protected, and not just when a storm rolls through. Check it out, even you might learn something - I know I did when researching the article.

TIA
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647. Neapolitan
1:41 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
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646. FtMyersgal
1:38 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs


I am a member of CoCoRaHS
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645. GeorgiaStormz
1:37 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Getting hot up there in germany I hear....USA heat wave may come soon.

\
seeing CAPE of 5000 in Germany today along with a little shear SE of a low near denamrk. Looks like some storms develop but it's complicated
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644. AussieStorm
1:27 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs
do they take info from me?
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642. Torito
1:21 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting SouthernIllinois:
Yet ANOTHER absolute gem in store for Southern Illinois!! Sunny and beautiful, with highs approaching the 90 degree mark! YES!!!!! <3

Natalie :)



bringing out the colored text... fancy!

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641. barbamz
1:15 PM GMT on June 20, 2013

Lithning right now in Germany (enlarge)

Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now. My place (Mainz) wasn't affected until now by thunderstorms, just a bit cool (yes!!) wind this morning. But forecasters threaten us that an even more severe line with heavy storms (maybe tornados) should develop in France and cross us this night. The metereological situation is a bit complicated. Even the weather fans in a german blog are scratching their heads. "It's already over? Or something more to come? Where?" ....


Source to enlarge


Cloudtoptemps

What else? Strange things happen ...

One killed as roads burst in heatwave
Published: 20 Jun 13 10:01 CET
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640. txag91met
1:04 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs
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639. Jwd41190
1:04 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Wiiilbur:


Exactly my point. I was confused by the original post that claimed that Barry had 60 mph winds but complained that the NHC wouldn't upgrade it.


I was saying that if Barry did have 60mph that the NHC would not upgrade the winds from 45mph to 60mph, not the category of the storm.
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636. Levi32
12:52 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.

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635. Neapolitan
12:52 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting MTWX:
Forecasted high in Barrow Alaska today, according to WU, is 73 (NWS is quite a bit more conservative on their forecast of upper 50's). If it does indeed reach the WU high, then it would shatter its record high of 60 degrees for today set in 1989.
Such a high wouldn't surprise me; crazy stuff going on up there. Nome, Alaska, set another all-time June high-temperature record yesterday, and in doing so tied it's absolute all-time high:

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NOME AK
134 AM AKDT THU JUN 20 2013

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR JUNE...

THE 86 DEGREE TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY TIED THE ALL-TIME RECORD HOWEVER
IT WAS THE RECORD HIGHEST TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. THE
PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 84 SET TWO DAYS AGO. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF
54 DEGREES ALSO BROKE THE HIGHEST MINIMUM TEMPERATURE BY 1 DEGREE SET
BACK IN 1991.
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634. fabian171017
12:48 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Neither buoy data or satellite data ever indicated that Barry approached hurricane status. They might bump it to 60mph post-season, I've seen them do that before with similar situations, but probably nothing more.

After Barry, I suspect it's going to be 2-3 weeks before we get our next system.


11 days.
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633. weathermanwannabe
12:46 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Good Morning. See Barry is coming ashore and did not ever get to reach higher wind speeds. As always, it will bring flooding and mudslides to that region so the real threat, and potential loss of life, is going to materialize over the next few days.

On a tropical note, and we have been chasing Barry thje past few days, here is a portion of Tuesday's ENSO Outlook from the Aussies and the link to the full discussion below. We sort of knew that this has been a rather long stretch for Neutral conditions and they are not ruling out the possibility of a swing towards moderate La Nina conditions in a few months. If that does happen going into late-September/October we might squeeze out several more storms after the September peak period and we are in for a long season.

ENSO neutral; a negative IOD likely for southern winter-spring
Issued on Tuesday 18 June 2013 | Product Code IDCKGEWWOO

Despite a recent cooling trend in the far eastern tropical Pacific, ENSO indicators have generally remained neutral (neither El Niño nor La Niña) since mid-2012. While the vast majority of climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggest neutral ENSO conditions will persist through the winter, the development of La Niña in 2013 cannot be fully ruled out.

In the tropical Indian Ocean, warmer-than-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) have persisted in the east, while SSTs in the western Indian Ocean have cooled over the past month or two. As a result of this pattern, the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) index has been below −0.4 °C since mid-May. If this index remains at, or below, −0.4 °C until late July, then 2013 will be classified as a negative IOD year. All climate models surveyed now predict a negative IOD during the southern winter-spring period.

Climate Models:
Most international climate models surveyed by the Bureau indicate that SSTs in the equatorial Pacific Ocean are likely to remain neutral until at least the southern hemisphere spring, however the Bureau of Meteorology's model suggests there is a small chance of weak La Niña conditions forming during the winter months.


Link

Irrespective of the possible moderate La Nina towards the end of the season, not liking the Neutral conditions expected during the peak of the Cape Verde season because Neutral conditions tend to favor trajectories of very robust waves/storms right into the Lesser Antilles headed towards PR/Hispanola/Cuba/Florida.
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632. CybrTeddy
12:44 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting HurricaneDevo:


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?


Neither buoy data or satellite data ever indicated that Barry approached hurricane status. They might bump it to 60mph post-season, I've seen them do that before with similar situations, but probably nothing more.

After Barry, I suspect it's going to be 2-3 weeks before we get our next system.
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631. SFLWeatherman
12:44 PM GMT on June 20, 2013



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630. MAweatherboy1
12:42 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Skyepony:
Weakening Flag has been thrown at Barry.. This maybe peak.. CI=3.5 994mb, raw T is dropping, cloud temps are rising..

Down to 35kts.

AL, 02, 2013062012, , BEST, 0, 196N, 964W, 35, 1004, TS
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629. Skyepony (Mod)
12:40 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Weakening Flag has been thrown at Barry.. This maybe peak.. CI=3.5 994mb, raw T is dropping, cloud temps are rising..
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628. AussieStorm
12:40 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Wiiilbur:


IF Barry actually had 60 mph winds (which it doesn't), what exactly would it be upgraded to?


Nothing, it would stay a Tropical Storm. Category 1 starts at 74mph.

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627. SFLWeatherman
12:40 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Tropical Storm BARRY

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626. GeoffreyWPB
12:39 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
The big picture...

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625. Bobbyweather
12:39 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting HurricaneDevo:


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?

IMO, Barry will not get upgraded to a hurricane in post-analysis. Even though Barry spun up pretty quickly, the NHC analyzed the storm as having 45 mph winds. A minor 5- to 15-mph upgrade can happen, but 30-mph upgrade is near impossible.
Don't take this that serious though, it's just my opinion.
EDIT) Hmm... I just looked at the ADT numbers and they reached near 65 mph. But still, not enough to support a hurricane.
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624. Nimitz
12:38 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Quoting Neapolitan:
;-) Remember, the NHC always names storms in order to pad their numbers because that justifies their existence, except when they're not naming things they should in order to not scare people, which contradicts with their plan to name they things they shouldn't in order to "prove" global warming, but they only do that when they're not giving names to storms they should because to do so would hike interest rates and lead to a recession, though that's offset by them naming things they shouldn't because they get paid on a per-storm basis...

Despite their many other obvious problems, the biggest issue with anti-NHC conspiracy theories is they're just so extraordinarily laughable...


Ahhh....my head hurts now.
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623. FtMyersgal
12:37 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
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622. pcola57
12:34 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
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621. MTWX
12:34 PM GMT on June 20, 2013
Forecasted high in Barrow Alaska today, according to WU, is 73 (NWS is quite a bit more conservative on their forecast of upper 50's). If it does indeed reach the WU high, then it would shatter its record high of 60 degrees for today set in 1989.

WU Forecast



NWS Forecast
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