Tornado Scientist Tim Samaras and Team Killed in Friday's El Reno, OK Tornado

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:43 PM GMT on June 02, 2013

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Veteran tornado scientist Tim Samaras, his son, environmental photographer Paul Samaras, 24, and meteorologist Carl Young, 45, died while chasing Friday's EF-3 tornado in El Reno, Oklahoma. The tornado killed at least nine people, in total. "Thank you to everyone for the condolences. It truly is sad that we lost my great brother Tim and his great son, Paul," said the brother of Tim Samaras, Jim Samaras, on Tim's Facebook page. "They all unfortunately passed away but doing what they LOVED." Tim, his son Paul, and Carl Young were all featured chasers on the Discovery Channel’s series, Storm Chasers, and Tim was known throughout the chase community as a conscientious and safety-minded chaser. Carl Young, who holds a Masters degree in meteorology from the University of Nevada, joined Samaras in the field in 2003. According to his Discovery Channel biography, Young and Samaras chased over 125 tornadoes together: "Carl's finest moment came on June 11, 2004 near Storm Lake, Iowa. Working with Tim, they defied the odds and deployed their probes right in the path of a tornado. The six-camera video probe captured amazing footage from multiple angles while the sensor probe recorded data that revealed just how fast wind speeds are close to the ground."


Figure 1. TWC's Mike ‪Bettes‬ crew caught this image of the El Reno, Oklahoma tornado of May 31, 2013 before the tornado caught them and rolled their vehicle. The tornado killed tornado scientists/storm chasers Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young.


Figure 2. Storm chasers in North Dakota aligned themselves to spell out "T S" in honor of Tim Samaras today. Image credit: spotternetwork.org.

Tornado science loses a pioneer
Tim Samaras had been a tornado scientist for over 25 years. He was the founder of TWISTEX, the Tactical Weather Instrumented Sampling in Tornadoes Experiment, a 2011 field experiment designed to help learn more about tornadoes and increase lead time for warnings, which resulted in many peer-reviewed publications and conference presentations. One of Tim Samaras' most widely recognized contributions to tornado science is his placement of an aerodynamically-designed probe in the path of an EF-4 tornado near Manchester, South Dakota on June 24, 2003. The probe measured a world-record pressure fall of 100 mb over a 40 second period.

One of the publications from the TWISTEX program, "Near-Ground Pressure and Wind Measurements in Tornadoes" recounts this close call Tim had in a tornado in 2011: "As the storm approached, the crew noted that the supercell was moving more sharply to the right of its former course, placing them near the projected path of the low-level mesocyclone. The crew drove south on Highway 259, attempting to position south of the low-level mesocyclone before it crossed the highway. With considerable tree cover in this region hampering the visual observation of the storm's features, TWISTEX crews could not position south of the mesocyclone on Highway 259 before the mesocyclone reached this road. Thus, the two mobile mesonet stations, M2 and M3, had an unplanned tornado encounter with a developing tornadic circulation while the mesonet was traveling south on Highway 259."


Figure 3. One of Tim Samaras' most widely recognized contributions to tornado science is his placement of an aerodynamically-designed probe in the path of an EF-4 tornado near Manchester, South Dakota on June 24, 2003. The probe measured a world-record pressure fall of 100 mb over a 40 second period. See the NWS article and conference paper on the event. Thanks to wunderground member Scott Lincoln for this link.

A storm chasers' nightmare
Cars and tornadoes can prove a dangerous mix even for the world's most experienced storm chasers. Driving at high speeds though heavy rain, large hail, and high winds is hazardous. If one is lucky enough to chase down a tornado, even the most experienced chasers can find themselves in a serious life-threatening situation when unexpected events occur. The exact circumstances of the deaths of Tim Samaras and his team are not clear, but the El Reno tornado was an extremely dangerous one to chase. Tornadoes by their nature are unpredictable, and can change course unexpectedly, or pop up suddenly. It's particularly dangerous when a tornado is wrapped in rain, making it hard to see, or if a chaser is operating in a heavily populated area, where roads may suddenly become congested. All four of these conditions occurred Friday during the El Reno tornado. The El Reno tornado was wrapped in rain and difficult to see as it headed west towards Oklahoma City, and suddenly made a jog to the southeast as a Weather Channel team led by Mike Bettes was attempting to get in front of the storm, and the tornado lifted their vehicle off the ground, rolled it multiple times, and hurled it 200 yards into a nearby field. Austin Anderson was driving the Tornado Hunt vehicle, and suffered several broken bones and was hospitalized. Although Austin will have to undergo surgery in the next few days, doctors say he is expected to make a full recovery. StormChasingVideo.com storm chaser Brandon Sullivan and his chase partner Brett Wright got caught in the tornado northwest of Union City, OK and slammed with debris as the tornado hit a barn that exploded in front of them. Meteorologist Emily Sutton and storm chaser Kevin Josefy of local Oklahoma City TV station KFOR also had a very close call with the El Reno tornado Friday afternoon. They got too close to the tornado, and were forced to floor the car in reverse to escape flying debris. With branches of trees crashing around them, Sutton began feeling debris hitting her back, and realized that the rear windshield of the car must have gotten destroyed. Both were uninjured. Reed Timmer's armor-plated "Dominator" chase vehicle had its hood torn off by the tornado. Wunderground member Levi32 was out storm chasing during the El Reno Tornado, and got stuck in traffic on Highway 4 and couldn't move. "We looked up above the car and saw the wall cloud over top of us, with very quick rotation and rising scud indicating the updraft. We were definitely too close."


Video 1. Severe storm researcher and engineer Tim Samaras talks about his view on tornadoes and what remains to be understood in this interview posted on May 21, 2013.


Video 2. A tornado passes over one of Tim Samaras' specially designed six-camera video probes on June 11, 2004 near Storm Lake, Iowa.

Tornadoes and cars: a dangerous mix
A vehicle is about the worst place you can be in a tornado, as the tornado's winds can easily roll a car. (The only place less safe is probably a mobile home, as a tornado's winds can roll mobile homes almost as readily, and mobile homes don't come with seat belts and air bags.) At least five of the deaths in Friday's El Reno tornado occurred in vehicles. There was one local TV station that urged residents without underground shelters to get in their cars and "get south" in advance of the tornado that was approaching Oklahoma City, since chasers were reporting that the El Reno tornado may have been so strong that only an underground shelter would have provided adequate protection. This terrible piece of advice likely contributed to the incredible traffic jams that we saw on I-35, I-40, I-44, and other local roads Friday night. Thousands of cars were bumper-to-bumper on the roads as a dangerous tornado approached them. Had the El Reno tornado plowed directly down one of these car-choked interstates, the death toll could have easily exceeded 500. If you are located in a metro area and don't have an underground shelter, the best thing to do it to take shelter in an interior windowless room or hallway, with protective furniture over your body. Getting in a car and attempting to flee the tornado is the worst thing you can do in an urban area. You may not be able to see the tornado if it is dark or the tornado is wrapped in rain. You are likely to encounter hazardous winds, rain, and hail, run into unexpected traffic, or flooded or debris-blocked roads that will put you directly in the path of the tornado. Even without an underground shelter, most people will be able to survive a dangerous EF-4 tornado. Case in point: during the Mannsford, Oklahoma EF- 4 tornado of 1984, a packed church received a direct hit, and everyone in the church survived. The only fatality was a man who drove to the church to get his wife. It is often better to abandon your vehicle and take shelter in a ditch, if you are caught in a car during a tornado. However, if there is already flying debris in the air, leaving your car and exposing yourself to the debris in order to get to a ditch may be more hazardous than staying in your car. Furthermore, ditches are prone to flash floods. Four deaths during the El Reno tornado were from a family of seven that sheltered in a drainage ditch, and were washed into the Deep Fork River by a flash flood. Searchers are still looking for the other three bodies. A 2002 research paper, "UNSAFE AT ANY (WIND) SPEED? Testing the Stability of Motor Vehicles in Severe Winds" found that: "The stability and superior safety of being in a vehicle in severe winds, relative to occupying a mobile home or being outdoors, should be considered." Also, TWC's severe weather expert, Dr. Greg Forbes, commented on the pros and cons of abandoning one's vehicle for a ditch in a 2009 blog post, "Tornado Safety - Cars Versus Ditches: A Controversy." His personal take on what he would do if his car was being overtaken by a tornado, and no sturdy buildings were nearby to take shelter in: "I can't see myself getting out of the vehicle. I'd try first to drive away from the tornado. Both the NWS and the American Red Cross actually also advocate this. If you can determine which way the tornado is moving toward, face your body toward that direction and then go to the right, as shown in the diagram below. That is usually toward the south or southeast. The reason that it's best to head this way is that if you went to the left you would normally get into the region where largest hail and blinding rain occur in the kind of supercell, rotating thunderstorms that often spawn tornadoes. If I had no such driving option and I did feel the urge to get out of my car, I'd try to get into a building, and into a ditch well away from the car as the last resort."

My condolences and prayers go to all of the family and friends of Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young. Their deaths are a terrible shock to the meteorological community, and a great loss for tornado science. I hope that their deaths will lead towards safer tornado chasing, and help spur efforts to use emerging drone technology to take measurements in dangerous storms such as tornadoes and hurricanes.

Jeff Masters

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952. MRCYCLOGENESIS
11:16 AM GMT on June 04, 2013
Going to defintely be a umbrella week here in West Central Florida!!!
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951. HurricaneHunterJoe
12:20 AM GMT on June 04, 2013
The rain coming up from 91L seems to be evaporating as it nears SW Florida?? My buddy in Estero says he has received like less than 1/10 inch today.
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950. Hurricane1956
7:38 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Once again our local Met's are wrong!! where are the 20" of rain for South Florida?,here in Miami not a drop of rain today ( I know is not going to be 20" in one day) but when I look at the Gulf of Mexico Rainbow loop it should be raining in most part of Florida.
We should the take the forecaster backwards,when they said sunny and dry it rains a lot when they said rainy 70% is dry!! LOL!!!!.Let see how the rest of the week shape up?, if a the low finally is going to develop or not?,interesting week ahead.
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949. Luisport
6:14 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Has during the Danube in Passau level already reached a historic high, the residents of the Elbe is the most critical phase is yet to come: So the water levels along the river rose even more dramatically on Monday. In many places the highest alert level has been proclaimed as the capital of Saxony in Dresden, where the level had almost reached the seven-meter mark on Monday evening. But also in Saxony-Anhalt do you prepare before a heavy Elbflood
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948. Pipejazz
4:02 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Just came online saw the new blog but wanted to post in this specific blog my sincere condolences for the storm chasers who lost their lives. RIP to these brave scientists and to all others who have lost their lives in weather events.
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947. TylerStanfield
3:47 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting weatherh98:


Mainly just regions 3.4 and 4, 1+2 and 3 are well below averages and are holding steady.

That's what I meant, they haven't fallen anymore, they're now holding steady. The only thing preventing the niño regions from being declared a weak La Niña phase is the niño 3.4, 3 and 4 regions being right at around average.
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946. JNTenne
3:46 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Meanwhile, all is calm 1 AU away

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945. opal92nwf
3:45 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting TylerStanfield:

The GFS and Canadian have been showing a weak surface low developing with the wave over the next couple days while conditions stay marginally favorable. But it will likely not reach the islands due it getting slammed by a TUTT feature nearby. I believe it may warrant a yellow circle and an invest designation through midweek before its favorable conditions run out. Still a very structurally sound and well-organized tropical wave for June. It may have had the chane to develop if conditions were better. We may just see a Early Season long-tracker this year. Definitely not out of the question if the intensity of these tropical waves continue as the conditions become more conducive. Maybe a Cape Verde storm in July?

2005. Unusually robust Cape Verdes among other storms.

Hurricane Cindy 07/03-07/11 75 992 1 320 Category 1 Hurricane
Major Hurricane Dennis 07/04-07/18 150 930 42 2545 Category 3 Hurricane
Major Hurricane Emily 07/11-07/21 160 929 6 0 No US Landfall
Tropical Storm Franklin 07/21-07/31 70 997 0 0 No US Landfall
Tropical Storm Gert 07/23-07/25 45 1005 0 0 No US Landfall
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942. FunnelVortex
3:44 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting SouthernIllinois:

Yep. Remember, it's not just vapor trails. It's the government conspiring to alter the world's climate by coordinating some clandestine mission involving thousands of retired 747's to deliberately and maliciously release massive amounts of barium and aluminum aerosols high into the atmosphere that alter cloud patterns and create harmful chemtrails. ;-)



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941. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
3:44 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
940. Bluestorm5
3:43 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting TampaSpin:
Just a shout out to all my friends on here. I don't post here often, but I certainly still have a lot of friends on here and my site.
Nice to see you again!
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939. EricSpittle
3:43 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting SouthernIllinois:

Yep. Remember, it's not just vapor trails. It's the government conspiring to alter the world's climate by coordinating some clandestine mission involving thousands of retired 747's to deliberately and maliciously release massive amounts of barium and aluminum aerosols high into the atmosphere that alter cloud patterns and create harmful chemtrails. ;-)

You sheeple, this plan was retired because it was found out. They now use poison unicorn farts for all their weather modification. HAARP sends up mind-control rays which catch the unicorns while they fly over Alaska and re-program them to fart on command. Don't you people know anything? I remember years ago and you would hardly see unicorns flying at all, and now they are all over so this is the only possible explanation.
:)
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938. JNTenne
3:42 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Nice bit of shade up the eastern seaboard today...
Potential in the North Caribbean?

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937. weatherh98
3:42 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Just in case you don't know (think you do), he's HurricaneDean07.



What the... How? Why?

Jeeze, sorry dean I thought it was a new guy trying to tell everyone about trolling... Didnt add up
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934. Bluestorm5
3:38 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting weatherh98:


Could be worse!

Erm... "June 2, 2013"
Just in case you don't know (think you do), he's HurricaneDean07.
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933. weatherh98
3:38 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting TylerStanfield:

Yeah, looked at that earlier. I think I should rebound now considering the Atlantic is forecasted to turn into a negative NAO again. Also the Niño regions have began to teeter again, which could mean we could head back toward a average neutral instead of cool neutral.


Mainly just regions 3.4 and 4, 1+2 and 3 are well below averages and are holding steady.
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932. sar2401
3:38 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting RTSplayer:
Cuban radar mosaic.



Notice the heavy storms associated with the blob moving through the Yucatan Channel. This is probably the most promising for starting real development, in my mind.

Heavy storms? It looks like what I used to see all the time when I was sailing in that area.
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931. TylerStanfield
3:35 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting weatherh98:
MDR was in a nose dive but has since leveled off, the gulf was cooling but is now warming again. The carribean is cooling and is now below average.


Yeah, looked at that earlier. I think It should rebound now considering the Atlantic is forecasted to turn into a negative NAO again. Also the Nio regions have began to teeter again, which could mean we could head back toward a average neutral instead of cool neutral.
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930. wunderkidcayman
3:33 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting weatherh98:


Full page if sst data Link


thanks
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928. weatherh98
3:31 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting FunnelVortex:


30 KTS?

Not too bad. We've seen storms go up in that before.


Could be worse!
Quoting TylerStanfield:

-,!, and ignore user. Troll.


Erm... "June 2, 2013"
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927. weatherh98
3:30 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

when it get in the GOM then poof it gone by the shear


what does the other SSA maps say


Full page if sst data Link
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926. seminolesfan
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2013


This one is wind shear and it shows 20ish+ kts...
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925. FunnelVortex
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting weatherh98:





30 KTS?

Not too bad. We've seen storms go up in that before.
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924. wunderkidcayman
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting TylerStanfield:

-,!, and ignore user. Troll.

yep ok
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923. sar2401
3:29 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting GTcooliebai:
wxmod would tend to agree with you there.

Holy cow! I forgot about those danged chemtrails...no wonder my lawn is dying. :-)
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922. seminolesfan
3:28 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting RTSplayer:
Repost since it was missed.

The shear is clearly wrong on this map.



you can manually time the shear from how cloud tops are blown off thunderstorms in the western Gulf, and it's more like 40 to 50mph, not the 0 to 10 this map claims.


NOT A WIND SHEAR PRODUCT!

That is layer mean wind analysis, which shows the vector magnitude in the colored chart.
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921. weatherh98
3:27 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

this ain't a shear map so stop using it as one



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920. wunderkidcayman
3:27 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting RTSplayer:
Cuban radar mosaic.



Notice the heavy storms associated with the blob moving through the Yucatan Channel. This is probably the most promising for starting real development, in my mind.

when it get in the GOM then poof it gone by the shear

Quoting weatherh98:
MDR was in a nose dive but has since leveled off, the gulf was cooling but is now warming again. The carribean is cooling and is now below average.


what does the other SSA maps say
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919. mikatnight
3:26 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting redwagon:


I'm starting to worry if the inverse is true... Gro brings the *blobs* out.


That would explain a lot...
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917. TylerStanfield
3:25 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

this ain't a shear map so stop using it as one

-,!, and ignore user. Troll.
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916. wunderkidcayman
3:24 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting RTSplayer:
Repost since it was missed.

The shear is clearly wrong on this map.



you can manually time the shear from how cloud tops are blown off thunderstorms in the western Gulf, and it's more like 40 to 50mph, not the 0 to 10 this map claims.

this ain't a shear map so stop using it as one
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915. weatherh98
3:23 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
MDR was in a nose dive but has since leveled off, the gulf was cooling but is now warming again. The carribean is cooling and is now below average.

Member Since: June 17, 2011 Posts: 11 Comments: 6461
914. RTSplayer
3:22 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Cuban radar mosaic.



Notice the heavy storms associated with the blob moving through the Yucatan Channel. This is probably the most promising for starting real development, in my mind.
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913. mikatnight
3:18 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting prcane4you:
All the Home Depots in P.R. are full of people buying all kind of stuff.


It's good to be - as the Boy Scouts motto says - Prepared.

Then, there's the other way you can go, and get a pair of them spiffy Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses, which darken at the first sign of danger so as not to alarm the wearer.
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912. RTSplayer
3:17 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Repost since it was missed.

The shear is clearly wrong on this map.



you can manually time the shear from how cloud tops are blown off thunderstorms in the western Gulf, and it's more like 40 to 50mph, not the 0 to 10 this map claims.
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911. TropicalAnalystwx13
3:15 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
NOAA Statement on deaths of storm researchers Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras and Carl Young

We are terribly saddened by this news. Samaras was a respected tornado researcher and friend of NOAA who brought to the field a unique portfolio of expertise in engineering, science, writing and videography. His work was documented through an extensive list of formal publications and conference papers.

We extend our sympathies to the family of Tim and Paul, and to the family of Carl Young. We also extend our sympathies to all victims of the May 31st tornado and the other horrific tornadoes that have recently devastated central Oklahoma.

As far as we know, these are the first documented scientific storm intercept fatalities in a tornado.

Scientific storm intercept programs, though they occur with some known measure of risk, provide valuable research information that is difficult to acquire in other ways. Scientific storm chasing is performed as safely as possible, utilizing highly trained personnel and extensive technology including mobile Doppler radar.

We know storm chasing is also done by local government and media personnel who provide valuable warning information, and by amateur storm chasers who wish to see and photograph storms. We encourage all who chase to do so as safely and as responsibly as possible in order to avoid danger for themselves and all those threatened by tornadoes.
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910. GTcooliebai
3:15 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting prcane4you:
Yep...maybe swirls are from jet planes engines crossing everywhwre.
wxmod would tend to agree with you there.
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909. TylerStanfield
3:13 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting Skyepony:
Fresh ASCAT of the wave ~33W..


The GFS and Canadian have been showing a weak surface low developing with the wave over the next couple days while conditions stay marginally favorable. But it will likely not reach the islands due it getting slammed by a TUTT feature nearby. I believe it may warrant a yellow circle and an invest designation through midweek before its favorable conditions run out. Still a very structurally sound and well-organized tropical wave for June. It may have had the chane to develop if conditions were better. We may just see a Early Season long-tracker this year. Definitely not out of the question if the intensity of these tropical waves continue as the conditions become more conducive. Maybe a Cape Verde storm in July?
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908. weatherh98
3:13 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting prcane4you:
Atlantic is boiling...ready for fishes.




I don't think it's boiling:)
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907. prcane4you
3:12 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting Torito:
Atlantic is boiling...ready for fishes.
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906. weatherh98
3:10 PM GMT on June 03, 2013


That ridge off the east coast, also can see the well defined "blob"
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905. wunderkidcayman
3:09 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting SLU:


They were all bad years for the Caribbean and the US.

yep thou we here in cayman got it the worst back in 04
Bonnie, Charley, and Ivan
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904. Torito
3:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
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903. redwagon
3:08 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
Quoting NEFLWATCHING:
"I wonder if we can bait him with some herring balls..."

Too funny. But if the blobs don't bring him out, I dunno... You'd probably only net Rose Nyland.



I'm starting to worry if the inverse is true... Gro brings the *blobs* out.
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902. Torito
3:07 PM GMT on June 03, 2013
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