Tornado Scientist Tim Samaras and Team Killed in Friday's El Reno, OK Tornado

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:43 PM GMT on June 02, 2013

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Veteran tornado scientist Tim Samaras, his son, environmental photographer Paul Samaras, 24, and meteorologist Carl Young, 45, died while chasing Friday's EF-3 tornado in El Reno, Oklahoma. The tornado killed at least nine people, in total. "Thank you to everyone for the condolences. It truly is sad that we lost my great brother Tim and his great son, Paul," said the brother of Tim Samaras, Jim Samaras, on Tim's Facebook page. "They all unfortunately passed away but doing what they LOVED." Tim, his son Paul, and Carl Young were all featured chasers on the Discovery Channel’s series, Storm Chasers, and Tim was known throughout the chase community as a conscientious and safety-minded chaser. Carl Young, who holds a Masters degree in meteorology from the University of Nevada, joined Samaras in the field in 2003. According to his Discovery Channel biography, Young and Samaras chased over 125 tornadoes together: "Carl's finest moment came on June 11, 2004 near Storm Lake, Iowa. Working with Tim, they defied the odds and deployed their probes right in the path of a tornado. The six-camera video probe captured amazing footage from multiple angles while the sensor probe recorded data that revealed just how fast wind speeds are close to the ground."


Figure 1. TWC's Mike ‪Bettes‬ crew caught this image of the El Reno, Oklahoma tornado of May 31, 2013 before the tornado caught them and rolled their vehicle. The tornado killed tornado scientists/storm chasers Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young.


Figure 2. Storm chasers in North Dakota aligned themselves to spell out "T S" in honor of Tim Samaras today. Image credit: spotternetwork.org.

Tornado science loses a pioneer
Tim Samaras had been a tornado scientist for over 25 years. He was the founder of TWISTEX, the Tactical Weather Instrumented Sampling in Tornadoes Experiment, a 2011 field experiment designed to help learn more about tornadoes and increase lead time for warnings, which resulted in many peer-reviewed publications and conference presentations. One of Tim Samaras' most widely recognized contributions to tornado science is his placement of an aerodynamically-designed probe in the path of an EF-4 tornado near Manchester, South Dakota on June 24, 2003. The probe measured a world-record pressure fall of 100 mb over a 40 second period.

One of the publications from the TWISTEX program, "Near-Ground Pressure and Wind Measurements in Tornadoes" recounts this close call Tim had in a tornado in 2011: "As the storm approached, the crew noted that the supercell was moving more sharply to the right of its former course, placing them near the projected path of the low-level mesocyclone. The crew drove south on Highway 259, attempting to position south of the low-level mesocyclone before it crossed the highway. With considerable tree cover in this region hampering the visual observation of the storm's features, TWISTEX crews could not position south of the mesocyclone on Highway 259 before the mesocyclone reached this road. Thus, the two mobile mesonet stations, M2 and M3, had an unplanned tornado encounter with a developing tornadic circulation while the mesonet was traveling south on Highway 259."


Figure 3. One of Tim Samaras' most widely recognized contributions to tornado science is his placement of an aerodynamically-designed probe in the path of an EF-4 tornado near Manchester, South Dakota on June 24, 2003. The probe measured a world-record pressure fall of 100 mb over a 40 second period. See the NWS article and conference paper on the event. Thanks to wunderground member Scott Lincoln for this link.

A storm chasers' nightmare
Cars and tornadoes can prove a dangerous mix even for the world's most experienced storm chasers. Driving at high speeds though heavy rain, large hail, and high winds is hazardous. If one is lucky enough to chase down a tornado, even the most experienced chasers can find themselves in a serious life-threatening situation when unexpected events occur. The exact circumstances of the deaths of Tim Samaras and his team are not clear, but the El Reno tornado was an extremely dangerous one to chase. Tornadoes by their nature are unpredictable, and can change course unexpectedly, or pop up suddenly. It's particularly dangerous when a tornado is wrapped in rain, making it hard to see, or if a chaser is operating in a heavily populated area, where roads may suddenly become congested. All four of these conditions occurred Friday during the El Reno tornado. The El Reno tornado was wrapped in rain and difficult to see as it headed west towards Oklahoma City, and suddenly made a jog to the southeast as a Weather Channel team led by Mike Bettes was attempting to get in front of the storm, and the tornado lifted their vehicle off the ground, rolled it multiple times, and hurled it 200 yards into a nearby field. Austin Anderson was driving the Tornado Hunt vehicle, and suffered several broken bones and was hospitalized. Although Austin will have to undergo surgery in the next few days, doctors say he is expected to make a full recovery. StormChasingVideo.com storm chaser Brandon Sullivan and his chase partner Brett Wright got caught in the tornado northwest of Union City, OK and slammed with debris as the tornado hit a barn that exploded in front of them. Meteorologist Emily Sutton and storm chaser Kevin Josefy of local Oklahoma City TV station KFOR also had a very close call with the El Reno tornado Friday afternoon. They got too close to the tornado, and were forced to floor the car in reverse to escape flying debris. With branches of trees crashing around them, Sutton began feeling debris hitting her back, and realized that the rear windshield of the car must have gotten destroyed. Both were uninjured. Reed Timmer's armor-plated "Dominator" chase vehicle had its hood torn off by the tornado. Wunderground member Levi32 was out storm chasing during the El Reno Tornado, and got stuck in traffic on Highway 4 and couldn't move. "We looked up above the car and saw the wall cloud over top of us, with very quick rotation and rising scud indicating the updraft. We were definitely too close."


Video 1. Severe storm researcher and engineer Tim Samaras talks about his view on tornadoes and what remains to be understood in this interview posted on May 21, 2013.


Video 2. A tornado passes over one of Tim Samaras' specially designed six-camera video probes on June 11, 2004 near Storm Lake, Iowa.

Tornadoes and cars: a dangerous mix
A vehicle is about the worst place you can be in a tornado, as the tornado's winds can easily roll a car. (The only place less safe is probably a mobile home, as a tornado's winds can roll mobile homes almost as readily, and mobile homes don't come with seat belts and air bags.) At least five of the deaths in Friday's El Reno tornado occurred in vehicles. There was one local TV station that urged residents without underground shelters to get in their cars and "get south" in advance of the tornado that was approaching Oklahoma City, since chasers were reporting that the El Reno tornado may have been so strong that only an underground shelter would have provided adequate protection. This terrible piece of advice likely contributed to the incredible traffic jams that we saw on I-35, I-40, I-44, and other local roads Friday night. Thousands of cars were bumper-to-bumper on the roads as a dangerous tornado approached them. Had the El Reno tornado plowed directly down one of these car-choked interstates, the death toll could have easily exceeded 500. If you are located in a metro area and don't have an underground shelter, the best thing to do it to take shelter in an interior windowless room or hallway, with protective furniture over your body. Getting in a car and attempting to flee the tornado is the worst thing you can do in an urban area. You may not be able to see the tornado if it is dark or the tornado is wrapped in rain. You are likely to encounter hazardous winds, rain, and hail, run into unexpected traffic, or flooded or debris-blocked roads that will put you directly in the path of the tornado. Even without an underground shelter, most people will be able to survive a dangerous EF-4 tornado. Case in point: during the Mannsford, Oklahoma EF- 4 tornado of 1984, a packed church received a direct hit, and everyone in the church survived. The only fatality was a man who drove to the church to get his wife. It is often better to abandon your vehicle and take shelter in a ditch, if you are caught in a car during a tornado. However, if there is already flying debris in the air, leaving your car and exposing yourself to the debris in order to get to a ditch may be more hazardous than staying in your car. Furthermore, ditches are prone to flash floods. Four deaths during the El Reno tornado were from a family of seven that sheltered in a drainage ditch, and were washed into the Deep Fork River by a flash flood. Searchers are still looking for the other three bodies. A 2002 research paper, "UNSAFE AT ANY (WIND) SPEED? Testing the Stability of Motor Vehicles in Severe Winds" found that: "The stability and superior safety of being in a vehicle in severe winds, relative to occupying a mobile home or being outdoors, should be considered." Also, TWC's severe weather expert, Dr. Greg Forbes, commented on the pros and cons of abandoning one's vehicle for a ditch in a 2009 blog post, "Tornado Safety - Cars Versus Ditches: A Controversy." His personal take on what he would do if his car was being overtaken by a tornado, and no sturdy buildings were nearby to take shelter in: "I can't see myself getting out of the vehicle. I'd try first to drive away from the tornado. Both the NWS and the American Red Cross actually also advocate this. If you can determine which way the tornado is moving toward, face your body toward that direction and then go to the right, as shown in the diagram below. That is usually toward the south or southeast. The reason that it's best to head this way is that if you went to the left you would normally get into the region where largest hail and blinding rain occur in the kind of supercell, rotating thunderstorms that often spawn tornadoes. If I had no such driving option and I did feel the urge to get out of my car, I'd try to get into a building, and into a ditch well away from the car as the last resort."

My condolences and prayers go to all of the family and friends of Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young. Their deaths are a terrible shock to the meteorological community, and a great loss for tornado science. I hope that their deaths will lead towards safer tornado chasing, and help spur efforts to use emerging drone technology to take measurements in dangerous storms such as tornadoes and hurricanes.

Jeff Masters

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Good afternoon

I see that two more sets of initials have been added. Such a tribute....

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Quoting nigel20:

Agreed.

Hey Baha!

What's the weather like in the Bahamas at this time?
Hey, nige... how's JA? Wx here is overcast, with periodic rain, heavy at times. I went out earlier and was interested to note that orthographic lifting contributed to the rain rate; near and between our two ranges of hills the rainfall was heavy and constant, while to their north and south it was light and sporadic.
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
The problem this system is having is that it is hung up over the Yucatan Peninsula. Imagine a Category 5 Hurricane Isidore made landfall there only to re-emerge back into the GOM as a Tropical Storm.


At its strongest, Isidore was a CAT 3, but your main point still stands
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As promised, here's my first weekly video update! It's four hours late, so many things have changed in the models. Forgive my verbal pauses, I've tried my best to edit most of them out but it's difficult to "dumb it down" so that my friends and family can understand the very basics. Because former 90L's development is so far off in the future, I've only discussed what the models are showing. Next week I'll include shear forecasts, SST's, etc. I hope it isn't as quite as it was last time, though I still found myself screaming into my mike. Enjoy! Glad to be apart of the video updating crowd.
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Quoting hydrus:
The problem this system is having is that it is hung up over the Yucatan Peninsula. Imagine a Category 3 Hurricane Isidore made landfall there only to re-emerge back into the GOM as a Tropical Storm.
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Quoting sar2401:

In Mike Morgan's defense, although it's a pretty weak defense, the events of May 20 and what happened in Moore was still fresh in everyone's mind...Meteorologists in the mass media need to be really carefully about they phrase their words, especially if they are not repeating doomsday warnings from the NWS.
two very important points you make.. i would estimate a third of the traffic mess his responsibility, another 1/3rd the Moore-fear, and then it was just a terrible time of day on a busy traffic day this went down.. the rest.
i think your final statement is why i believe resignation is due. i wouldn't even advocate a firing, he needs to own his responsibility in how he handled information for an enormous population in such short time. the point he started this effort to get people on the roads was entirely too soon, given the unknowns of storm development and track, and the message persisted way too late when it was eminent danger to anyone in a car.. and it might have been 3-5min at Most between his last message to drive away, when he started telling people in cars to get out, because that's the worst place to be. okay, maybe i didn't step quite off this soapbox, but emotions are high right now.
this is why one must not advocate for escaping a tornado in a car. this is why you inform people how to be creative with their shelter possibilities; telling them the positions to take in the correct parts of above ground structures, being better chances of survival in any tornado vs. being in a car.
man.. blood boiled then, and it's even worse now knowing the fate of all and how these storms behaved.
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Quoting JeffMasters:
I've been told there was mobile Doppler data taken in the El Reno storm, and the data will be released in the next few days once it is verified.

TWC's Austin Anderson was driving their Tornado Hunt vehicle, and suffered several broken bones and was hospitalized. Although Austin will have to undergo surgery in the next few days, doctors say he is expected to make a full recovery.

Jeff Masters

That's good to know...thanks for the info Dr. Masters!
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At this time, we need all parties within the OKC area, that is willing to go on a hunt for Paul's video camera, to do so. If this camera is found, PLEASE DO NOT GIVE IT TO THE MEDIA! The camera should be turned into the Canadian Cty Sherriff, El Reno Department. Jim does not know the make or brand of the camera. - Caryn Hill

The search area should be concentrated around the intersection of 10th Street and Radio Road. They were NOT on I-40 as originally thought. Concentrate anywhere from 1/4-1/2 mile of this area in any direction. The sides of the roads have already been searched. Fields etc in the general area should be where any search is conducted. IF found, PLEASE DO NOT GIVE TO THE MEDIA!!! TURN IT IN TO THE CANADIAN CTY SHERRIFF, EL RENO DEPARTMENT. This is the least we can do for Jim and Kathy! -Verne Carlson

Pictures of Samaras' vehicle suggest the that equipment and other things located on/within the vehicle could have been removed and transported significant distances. Hopefully they can get the video equipment and any other data that might be missing.

Quoting sar2401:

Scott, assuming that picture is real, other chaser may not even have recognized that tangled mess as Tim's vehicle. You may be right that they were also not with the main mass of other chasers, so their absence may have gone unnoticed. As far as to why it took so long for the official details, I suspect that the condition of the remains may have made something like dental records needed for a positive ID.

Subsequent information seems to have suggested that they were away from most of the chasers on the main highway, and that they were not on the interstate.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

As far as a can tell, it was first sent out by Firsthand Weather (Twitter * Facebook) who said it was shared by News 9. Not positive because it's been shared everywhere now.

Thanks. It this digital, social media age, things get around fast. Even erroneous things. Last night word of Tim's death passed quickly and was even listed as "confirmed" without a really confirmation from an official source. Sometimes confirmations were based on posts that worked around in a circle, almost self-confirming. This is why you should be skeptical of things on the internet, it just doesn't get the same fact-checking.
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Quoting GrandCaymanMed:
Convection really blowing up in the NW Caribbean.
We have had off and on rain showers today with breezy conditions along the coast of West Mile Beach Grand Cayman. If this area persists and shear decreases, tropical development may slowly occur here.
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hey GrandCaymanMed what up
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142. FOREX
Quoting cg2916:
...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR CENTRAL ANDERSON COUNTY
UNTIL 445 PM EDT...


This is the next county over from me. If it heads my way, I'll provide updates (safely of course).


stay safe!!!!
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

I'm curious as to the source of this?

I know that some people have been trying to get more info on where they were when this happened. It is odd that it took a day and a half to hear word of it, especially if they were near the other chasers. Most chasers know each other and what their vehicles look like. It's an odd rivalry/monopoly type where everyone knows everyone, and if something happens to one team, the pictures are up soon thereafter. This kind of makes me think they were not near the main cluster of chasers nor stuck in the traffic jam.

I've also heard rumors that their equipment was not located with the vehicle, and was being searched for (emphasis on "heard," meaning poorly evidenced hearsay). If anything good were come of this, we could make sure to get the data from his equipment and make sure of it in the wider body of tornado research. I think it's what Tim & Carl would have wanted.

Scott, assuming that picture is real, other chaser may not even have recognized that tangled mess as Tim's vehicle. You may be right that they were also not with the main mass of other chasers, so their absence may have gone unnoticed. As far as to why it took so long for the official details, I suspect that the condition of the remains may have made something like dental records needed for a positive ID.
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...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR CENTRAL ANDERSON COUNTY
UNTIL 445 PM EDT...


This is the next county over from me. If it heads my way, I'll provide updates (safely of course).
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Very sad to hear the news from Oklahoma. I send my prayers and thoughts to the families of all people killed and impacted by the tornadoes.

Convection really blowing up in the NW Caribbean.
We have had off and on rain showers today with breezy conditions along the coast of West Mile Beach Grand Cayman. If this area persists and shear decreases, tropical development may slowly occur here.
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Hello everybody! Sad news coming out of Oklahoma.
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Like I said earlier, make sure we know it is you. Not everyone knows your "real" name... :o)

Agreed.

Hey Baha!

What's the weather like in the Bahamas at this time?
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Thanks for the update Dr. Masters. Very sad news all around today.
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Quoting FOREX:


Thank you for the update.

your welcome

current wx in West Bay,Grand Cayman
stormy overcast heavy downpour winds gusty winds around 17kts gust to 30kt
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134. JeffMasters (Admin)
I've been told there was mobile Doppler data taken in the El Reno storm, and the data will be released in the next few days once it is verified.

TWC's Austin Anderson was driving their Tornado Hunt vehicle, and suffered several broken bones and was hospitalized. Although Austin will have to undergo surgery in the next few days, doctors say he is expected to make a full recovery.

Jeff Masters
Quoting sar2401:

Taz, you have no idea if that's true. We don't even know the exact circumstances surrounding those fatalities. Until we do, it's a little irresponsible to be laying them at the doorstep of one TV station.
Some of the problems that evening DID have to do with rush hour traffic, but also there had already been some preliminary flooding which likely contributed to the slowdown.

In any case, I agree it's better to wait for more facts before blame is assigned. It's just a sad situation all round...
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Quoting Minnemike:
had the whole event w/ KFOR streaming.. i think that guy needs to put in a resignation for how he irresponsibly repeated the 'drive south' message. only under his breath seemingly, sparse at best, did he emphasize the caveat 'if you cannot get to an underground shelter'..
seeking underground shelter Needed to be the emphasis.. and sparse AT MOST should the utterance of 'drive away' have been made.. and NOT south!!
that was upsetting to me before any of the injury reports or traffic chaos began. if I was watching KFOR as it is an enhanced opportunity for streamed up to date info replete with high profile call-ins, my assumption is the local residents of that area were Definitely watching as well.
he should resign and recognize publicly that mistake.
my soapbox.. i'm off



Well said.
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Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Sorry for bad typing earlier, was on my phone and my internet browser kept crashing. Basically what I was saying is that Im leaving this account and I made a new account with my actual name to use full time. I want to use my actual name because I don't feel like being called dean anymore, and hiding behind a fake Account name. I plan on making this a career and want to be known around here with my actual name and not some cover up name :) So This is my last comment with this account. Its been Great. :)
Like I said earlier, make sure we know it is you. Not everyone knows your "real" name... :o)
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Very sad.
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Quoting Tazmanian:
you no if it was not for KFOR for telling evere one too head S and a way from OKY city Tim Samaras and Team may still be here today has all the rds would not have been block

Taz, you have no idea if that's true. We don't even know the exact circumstances surrounding those fatalities. Until we do, it's a little irresponsible to be laying them at the doorstep of one TV station.
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Good evening friends!
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

I'm curious as to the source of this?

I know that some people have been trying to get more info on where they were when this happened. It is odd that it took a day and a half to hear word of it, especially if they were near the other chasers. Most chasers know each other and what their vehicles look like. It's an odd rivalry/monopoly type where everyone knows everyone, and if something happens to one team, the pictures are up soon thereafter. This kind of makes me think they were not near the main cluster of chasers nor stuck in the traffic jam.

I've also heard rumors that their equipment was not located with the vehicle, and was being searched for (emphasis on "heard," meaning poorly evidenced hearsay). If anything good were come of this, we could make sure to get the data from his equipment and make sure of it in the wider body of tornado research. I think it's what Tim & Carl would have wanted.

As far as a can tell, it was first sent out by Firsthand Weather (Twitter * Facebook) who said it was shared by News 9. Not positive because it's been shared everywhere now.
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Look's like those Mainer's are going to have a storm filled night, they are dangerously close to flood levels of moisture already as it is.
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Quoting Minnemike:
had the whole event streaming.. i think that guy needs to put in a resignation for how he irresponsibly repeated the 'drive south' message. only under his breath seemingly, sparse at best, did he emphasize the caveat 'if you cannot get to an underground shelter'..
seeking underground shelter Needed to be the emphasis.. and sparse AT MOST should the utterance of 'driving south' have been made.
that was upsetting to me before any of the injury reports or traffic chaos began. if I was watching KFOR as it is an enhanced opportunity for streamed up to date info replete with high profile call-ins, my assumption is the local residents of that area were Definitely watching as well.
he should resign and recognize publicly that mistake.
my soapbox.. i'm off

In Mike Morgan's defense, although it's a pretty weak defense, the events of May 20 and what happened in Moore was still fresh in everyone's mind. Both KFOR and TWC were playing up these storms as a repeat of May 20, even when it was clear that, except for the El Reno tornado, this was not some kind of one in a hundred year event. I think Morgan was caught up in a feeling of panic that the events of May 20 were about to play themselves out again only in a much more heavily populated area. I was watching the live stream also and, if I lived in OKC, I probably would have been sniffing the panic in the air. Meteorologists in the mass media need to be really carefully about they phrase their words, especially if they are not repeating doomsday warnings from the NWS.
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you no if it was not for KFOR for telling evere one too head S and a way from OKY city Tim Samaras and Team may still be here today has all the rds would not have been block
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Quoting wunderkidcayman:
checked it again and surface obs continue to show a low level circulation forming in the GOH near 16N 87W pressures are falling in the area lowest recorded is around 1006mb just off the NW Honduran coast and all around Honduras Belize southern yucatan reading between 1009 mb and 1006 mb wind speed also picking up


Thank you for the update.
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checked it again and surface obs continue to show a low level circulation forming in the GOH near 16N 87W pressures are falling in the area lowest recorded is around 1006mb just off the NW Honduran coast and all around Honduras Belize southern yucatan reading between 1009 mb and 1006 mb wind speed also picking up
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Quoting hydrus:
Wonder if anybody is looking at that spin running up the eastern side of the Bahamas in this WRF run?
Quoting WxGeekVA:


This is the kinda stuff that turned me atheist... Seriously, those people disgust me.
You need to read Frederick Douglas on religion... [sigh]

I just want to say that for every @%$# out there spewing this kind of crap, there are a lot of other good people DOING things to help.
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Sorry for bad typing earlier, was on my phone and my internet browser kept crashing. Basically what I was saying is that Im leaving this account and I made a new account with my actual name to use full time. I want to use my actual name because I don't feel like being called dean anymore, and hiding behind a fake Account name. I plan on making this a career and want to be known around here with my actual name and not some cover up name :) So This is my last comment with this account. Its been Great. :)
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Quoting BahaHurican:
I was also thinking that the qualities CMC is best for - picking out low formation - would work anywhere in the basin, but being fine-tuned for larger non-tropical lows might cause the "blowing everything up to cat-5" feedback we often see.

I think that's a fair assumption. The CMC is biased toward identifying deepening low pressure systems that are the harbingers of big-time blizzards up north. That's why it's good at picking up developing lows. The "good" thing about winter storms is they tend to have pretty clearly defined paths based on the jet stream when it's howling in winter. Tropical systems, OTOH, are notorious for wandering around, sometime in the face of steering currents that say they should go one way or the other. That's why the CMC tends to overdo tropical systems and not do well with track prediction. The lows are deep enough and the dynamics for the low look good, but continental lows behave much differently than tropical lows.
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Quoting Tazmanian:




nop you can thank KFOR they told evere one too head S a way from OK city from the nado and thanks too that it lide too a big back up on the freeways and high ways
had the whole event w/ KFOR streaming.. i think that guy needs to put in a resignation for how he irresponsibly repeated the 'drive south' message. only under his breath seemingly, sparse at best, did he emphasize the caveat 'if you cannot get to an underground shelter'..
seeking underground shelter Needed to be the emphasis.. and sparse AT MOST should the utterance of 'drive away' have been made.. and NOT south!!
that was upsetting to me before any of the injury reports or traffic chaos began. if I was watching KFOR as it is an enhanced opportunity for streamed up to date info replete with high profile call-ins, my assumption is the local residents of that area were Definitely watching as well.
he should resign and recognize publicly that mistake.
my soapbox.. i'm off
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Here is what's left of Tim's truck after his deadly encounter with the EF3 tornado.


I'm curious as to the source of this?

I know that some people have been trying to get more info on where they were when this happened. It is odd that it took a day and a half to hear word of it, especially if they were near the other chasers. Most chasers know each other and what their vehicles look like. It's an odd rivalry/monopoly type where everyone knows everyone, and if something happens to one team, the pictures are up soon thereafter. This kind of makes me think they were not near the main cluster of chasers nor stuck in the traffic jam.

I've also heard rumors that their equipment was not located with the vehicle, and was being searched for (emphasis on "heard," meaning poorly evidenced hearsay). If anything good were come of this, we could make sure to get the data from his equipment and make sure of it in the wider body of tornado research. I think it's what Tim & Carl would have wanted.
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Tornado Warning for Franklin and Somerset Counties in ME until 4:45 PM EDT
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4:12 p.m. EDT Sunday: Quarter-sized hail reported in Van Buren, Maine.
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Quoting SouthernIllinois:
What were all those cars doing sitting on the interstate? Was that the normal rush hour? That was bumper to bumper traffic.




nop you can thank KFOR they told evere one too head S a way from OK city from the nado and thanks too that it lide too a big back up on the freeways and high ways
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A t-storm capable of producing a tornado has been reported 7 miles NE of Reed Creek, SC. Headed toward Sandy Springs, SC.
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Good thunderstorms on me now!:)
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4:05 p.m. EDT Sunday: A thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado has been reported 7 miles northeast of Reed Creek, S.C. This storm is headed toward Sandy Springs and Anderson, S.C.
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Another sad news story.

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Tornado Warning for Anderson County in SC until 4:45 PM EDT
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Quoting Seflhurricane:
looks like there may be a Mid level center trying to get going near the NE tip of the yucatan peninsula look at the visible images


Yeah! I see it and there is a concentration of vorticity to back it up. However, it is a little expose which means we could see convection fire up around it. Slowly starting to get going. Conditions should become favorable by early next week.
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3:52 p.m. EDT Sunday: An estimated three inches of rain has fallen in Eagle Lake, Maine after two thunderstorms moved through the area.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Here is what's left of Tim's truck after his deadly encounter with the EF3 tornado.

I don't mean to take away from the tragedy of this loss of life, but I am so thankful a violent tornado did not move through OKC with all that traffic on the interstates. Otherwise, this picture would have been one of hundreds.... OKC was spared a catastrophe.

My condolences go out to the families who have lost loved ones this tornado season. Tornadoes are truly terrifying beasts.
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.