A Night of Tornado Chaos in Oklahoma City: 9 Killed, 71 Injured

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:21 PM GMT on June 01, 2013

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It was a terrifying evening of tornado chaos and extreme atmospheric violence in the Oklahoma City area on Friday. Three tornadoes touched down near the city, killing nine, injuring at least 71, and causing widespread destruction. Huge hail up to baseball-sized battered portions the the metro area, accompanied by torrential flooding rains, widespread damaging straight-line winds, and lightning that flashed nearly continuously. The strongest tornado, which touched down west of Oklahoma City in El Reno, has been preliminarily rated an EF-3 with 136 - 165 mph winds. The tornado warning for the storm was issued 19 minutes before it touched down. Two other EF-3 tornadoes touched down near St. Louis, Missouri, and NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC) logged 20 preliminary tornado reports on Friday. Tinker Air Force Base on the east side of Oklahoma City reported sustained winds of 68 mph, gusting to 88 mph, at 8:09 pm CDT. The Oklahoma City airport had sustained winds of 53 mph, gusting to 71 mph at 7:26 pm. These winds were generated by the massive and powerful downdrafts from the supercell thunderstorm that spawned the El Reno tornado. Thankfully, Friday was likely the peak day for this week's severe weather outbreak, as SPC is calling for only a "Slight Risk" of severe weather Saturday and Sunday.


Figure 1. TWC's Mike ‪Bettes‬ crew caught this image of the El Reno, Oklahoma tornado of May 31, 2013 before the tornado caught them and rolled their vehicle.



Figure 2 and 3. Radar reflectivity (top) and Doppler velocity (bottom) images of the May 31, 2013 El Reno, Oklahoma tornado.


Figure 4. Preliminary tracks of the three tornadoes that touched done near Oklahoma City on May 31, 2013. Image credit: NWS Norman, OK.

Tornadoes and cars: a dangerous mix
A vehicle is about the worst place you can be in a tornado, as the tornado's winds can easily roll a car. (The only place less safe is probably a mobile home, as a tornado's winds can roll mobile homes almost as readily, and mobile homes don't come with seat belts and air bags.) At least five of the deaths in Friday's El Reno tornado occurred in vehicles attempting to flee. There was one local TV station that urged residents without underground shelters to get in their cars and "get south" in advance of the tornado that was approaching Oklahoma City, since chasers were reporting that the El Reno tornado may have been so strong that only an underground shelter would have provided adequate protection. This terrible piece of advice likely contributed to the incredible traffic jams that we saw on I-35, I-40, I-44, and other local roads Friday night. Thousands of cars were bumper-to-bumper on the roads as a dangerous tornado approached them. Had the El Reno tornado plowed directly down one of these car-choked interstates, the death toll could have easily exceeded 500. If you are located in a metro area and don't have an underground shelter, the best thing to do it to take shelter in an interior windowless room or hallway, with protective furniture over your body. Getting in a car and attempting to flee the tornado is the worst thing you can do in an urban area. You may not be able to see the tornado if it is dark or the tornado is wrapped in rain. You are likely to encounter hazardous winds, rain, and hail, run into unexpected traffic, or flooded or debris-blocked roads that will put you directly in the path of the tornado. Even without an underground shelter, most people will be able to survive a dangerous EF-4 tornado. Case in point: during the Mannford, Oklahoma EF-4 tornado of 1984, a packed church received a direct hit, and everyone in the church survived. The only fatality was a man who drove to the church to get his wife. (Thanks to wunderground member AGWcreationists for this link.) It's better to abandon your vehicle and take shelter in a ditch, if you are caught in a car during a tornado.


Video 1. The Weather Channel storm chasers weren't the only ones who got themselves in an extremely dangerous situation on May 31. StormChasingVideo.com storm chaser Brandon Sullivan and his chase partner Brett Wright got caught in the tornado northwest of Union City, OK and slammed with debris as the tornado hit a barn that exploded in front of them.


Video 2. When the hunters became the hunted: Weather Channel storm chasers ‪Mike Bettes and two photographers were in their Tornado Hunt vehicle when they were hit by a tornado in El Reno, Oklahoma on May 31,‬ ‪2013. ‬The tornado picked their car up off the ground and rolled it 6 - 8 times before depositing it in a field 200 yards away. All the occupants were wearing seat belts and the air bags deployed, likely saving their lives. Bettes sustained minor injuries, including stitches in his hand. It was the first injury sustained by a Weather Channel personality covering violent weather, according to company spokesperson Shirley Powell.

A storm chasers' nightmare
Cars and tornadoes can prove a dangerous mix even for the world's most experienced storm chasers. Driving at high speeds though heavy rain, large hail, and high winds is hazardous. If one is lucky enough to chase down a tornado, even the most experienced chasers can find themselves in a serious life-threatening situation when unpredictable events occur. Tornadoes by their nature are unpredictable, and can change course unexpectedly, or pop up suddenly. It's particularly dangerous when a tornado is wrapped in rain, making it hard to see, or if a chaser is operating in a heavily populated area, where roads may suddenly become congested. All four of these conditions occurred Friday during the El Reno tornado, and it is very fortunate that multiple chasers were not killed. The El Reno tornado was wrapped in rain and difficult to see as it headed west towards Oklahoma City. The twister suddenly made a jog to the southeast as a Weather Channel team led by Mike Bettes was attempting to get in front of the storm, and the tornado lifted their vehicle off the ground, rolled it multiple times, and hurled it 200 yards into a nearby field. StormChasingVideo.com storm chaser Brandon Sullivan and his chase partner Brett Wright got caught in the tornado northwest of Union City, OK and slammed with debris as the tornado hit a barn that exploded in front of them. Meteorologist Emily Sutton and storm chaser Kevin Josefy of local Oklahoma City TV station KFOR also had a very close call with the El Reno tornado Friday afternoon. They got too close to the tornado, and were forced to floor the car in reverse to escape flying debris. With branches of trees crashing around them, Sutton began feeling debris hitting her back, and realized that the rear windshield of the car must have gotten destroyed. Both were uninjured. Reed Timmer's armor-plated "Dominator" chase vehicle had its hood torn off by the tornado. Wunderground member Levi32 was out storm chasing during the El Reno Tornado, and got stuck in traffic on Highway 4 and couldn't move. "We looked up above the car and saw the wall cloud over top of us, with very quick rotation and rising scud indicating the updraft. We were definitely too close. We made it home safely last night, but not until after an insanely wild day. One hour of chasing turned into six more of being chased by at least 2 tornadoes and a 3rd wall cloud, one of which was the one that went right through downtown Oklahoma City. At one point we were stuck in traffic underneath the El Rino wall cloud watching rotating, rising scud directly above the car. I am hoping and praying that the daylight does not reveal more fatalities.

Would I go again? Yes, but not today, or tomorrow, and I would take even greater care. We had no clue we would get caught the way we did. I thought we had done everything right. We were kind of freaking out for a while. That velocity signature you guys saw with radar folding and multiple vortices - we were under the southern edge of it. We never got a clear view of the tornado, but we could tell just how close it was to our north. It was unreal. The inflow got pretty strong.

We were almost ready to jump out and take cover right before we found a route south, which ended up being slow. It became a six-lane highway south as everyone panicked and drove on the wrong side of the road. Even we did so. We thought we were clear until we saw the training of tornadic supercells on radar, all connected somehow. I've never seen anything like that. My best pictures of the day were of the wall cloud that followed behind the El Reno storm. We didn't see a funnel from that one either, but it chased us south for a long time, and we heard from radio that it spawned a confirmed tornado in Tuttle, when we realized that we were in Tuttle.

A third mesocyclone showed up behind that one as we continued slowly south, eventually reaching Blanchard. It looked weaker than the others but we weren't going to escape it, so we took shelter in a storm room in the local grocery store for about an hour. It then took a long time to find a way around the huge hail cores to get back home. Lightning flashes were occurring 10 times per second as we drove home in the dark. It was almost calming to watch as we got over the semi-shock that we were all in. None of us in the car had seen a tornado before. We didn't see one yesterday, but we were chased by two."



Video 3. Birth of the El Reno wedge tornado. As the tornado touched down, it produced a rare display of suction vortices.

Video 4. Storm chasers Jeff Piotrowski and Kathryn Piotrowski captured impressive footage of a double vortex tornado near El Reno, Oklahoma on May 31, 2013.

Severe storms causing major flooding
The 5.64" of rain that fell at the Oklahoma City Will Rogers Airport on Friday was their 6th wettest day in city history, and brought the total rainfall for the month of May to 14.52", the wettest May in Oklahoma City's history (Thanks to BaltimoreBrian for this link.) The North Canadian River in Oklahoma City rose sixteen feet in twelve hours, cresting at its 2nd highest flood on record this Saturday morning. The heavy rains have spread eastwards on Saturday, causing more flooding problems. Paducah, KY had its wettest June day and 3rd wettest day on record on June 1, with 5.73" of rain (all-time record: 7.49" on 9/5/1985.) Major flooding is occurring along a substantial stretch of the Mississippi River in Iowa, Illinois, and Missouri.


Figure 5. The North Canadian River in Oklahoma City rose sixteen feet in twelve hours, reaching its 2nd highest flood on record this Saturday morning.


Figure 6. Radar-estimated rainfall in the Oklahoma City area reached 8+" over some areas from Friday's storm.

Remains of Hurricane Barbara may bring heavy rains to Mexico, Florida, and Cuba
Today, June 1, is the official first day of the Atlantic Hurricane season, and we already have our first Atlantic tropical disturbance to talk about. Hurricane Barbara, which died on Thursday as it attempted to cross Mexico's Isthmus of Tehuantepec into the southernmost Gulf of Mexico, has left behind an area of disturbed weather over the southernmost Gulf of Mexico. There is very little heavy thunderstorm activity associated with Barbara's remnants apparent on satellite loops this Saturday afternoon. Wind shear is a high 20 knots in the region, and the area of disturbed weather is quite small, so I don't expect any development to occur over the next few days. NHC is giving the disturbance a 10% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone by Monday. Moisture from the remnants of Barbara may combine with moisture from an area of heavy thunderstorms expected to build over the Western Caribbean this weekend, and begin bringing heavy rains to Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and Western Cuba on Sunday and Monday. These heavy rains may spread to Southwest Florida as early as Monday night. The computer models predict that this disturbance should be large and poorly organized, making development into a Gulf of Mexico tropical cyclone unlikely.

My next post will be Monday at the latest.

Jeff Masters

LotsOfWater... (CalicoBass)
from the heavy rains overnight, flowing over this low water bridge. We were waiting to see if something about our size drove over it okay (we were in a Toyota Pickup), this is a bit bigger than us, lol.
LotsOfWater...
Sunset Strike (mrwing13)
NE Oklahoma is under the gun, again today. Severe weather, threatens to produce more damaging storms.
Sunset Strike
tornado (modernsourdough)
near bennington, ks
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:
What's with all the preaching and moralizing?

Sometimes people get hurt doing what they love to do. Skiing. Scuba. Sailing. Flying. Hunting. Football. Baseball. Martial Arts. Even Dating.

And we are supposed to lecture others like nannies lecture children because of storm chasing?

Seems like a weird disconnect to me.

You're right. Driving way above the speed limit through heavy rain and hail, obstructing emergency vehicles, standing in the middle of the road taking videos, putting myself in harms way so some poor saps have to come rescue me when there are other people who also need to be rescued...sure, it's all good, as long as I love what I'm doing.
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Pats blog has all this covered. This is the La. state hurricane readiness site.
Link

getagameplan.org
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Quoting shoreacres:


Cowboy! Good to see you!
A lot of "Oldies but Goodies" on today :)
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What's with all the preaching and moralizing?

Sometimes people get hurt doing what they love to do. Skiing. Scuba. Sailing. Flying. Hunting. Football. Baseball. Martial Arts. Even Dating.

And we are supposed to lecture others like nannies lecture children because of storm chasing?

Seems like a weird disconnect to me.
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Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Thanks. That may have earned him a pink slip.


Cowboy! Good to see you!
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
There are so many good tornado vids on youtube for free I can't imagine tornado vids bringing in much money.



its for some money but more for the ratings

if one makes a choice to place themselves in harms way
they must accept the outcome and or loss of life or property which may and can occur
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Got most of graphics lined up. Still got some left, but that's what you get for making a good blog. I got stuff to do so I'll get started on blog later.
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There are so many good tornado vids on youtube for free that I can't imagine tornado vids bringing in much money.
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Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Thanks. That may have earned him a pink slip.

Nah. As long as no relative of a person who died in a car gets in the news saying they were fleeing because Mike Morgan told them to, it's just another day on TV. I'm fairly certain there are people in OKC today thanking Mike for his excellent advice.
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Quoting CybrTeddy:


Yea, I watched that live. Totally stupid for him to tell them to "get in their cars and part the waters with this thing."



When a tornado WARNING is issued:
•If you are inside, go to the safe place you picked to protect yourself from glass and other flying objects.
•The tornado may be approaching your area.
•If you are outside, hurry to the basement of a nearby sturdy building or lie flat in a ditch or low-lying area.
•If you are in a car or mobile home, get out immediately and head for safety (as above).

After the tornado passes:
•Watch out for fallen power lines and do not venture into the damaged area.
•Listen to the radio for information and instructions.
•Use a flashlight to inspect your home for damage (avoid using candles or matches)
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

Maybe in some situations, but not last night. During the event, radar data was not ambiguous that a significant tornado situation was unfolding. This was independent of any data that might have been reported to TV and the NWS in realtime.

And yes, I can guarantee you that numerous people out chasing are there for adrenaline only, not collecting scientific data, and not relaying their data to the NWS.

It's not people with "no knowledge of the subject" that are scolding what storm chasing has become. Quite far from it. This is coming from someone with knowledge of the subject, who used to chase storms, and was even briefly involved with a scientific chase team.

It doesn't matter for what reason people chase storms. People need to understand that you must respect mother nature and the unpredictable things that she can do, because she has no respect for you no matter who you are.


Not to mention the number of chasers who were out there for profit as well as fun. If only I had the money, I could have booked an Extreme Tornado Tour with Reed and chased (safely, as he writes) yesterday. Somehow, it would have been worth it just to see the Dominator's hood leave the body.
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Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Thanks. That may have earned him a pink slip.


Welcome back, cowboy.
:)
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105. beell
Quoting moonlightcowboy:


Thanks. That may have earned him a pink slip.


Long as he doesn't wear it on-air.
(or maybe he should)
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Quoting StAugustineFL:


Mike Morgan with KFOR in OKC.


Thanks. That may have earned him a pink slip.
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Quoting sar2401:

Are you kidding? About three times as many would show up, along with three times the media, causing three times the problems they created in OKC.


You're probably right.
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I used to have a link that charted this, but can't put my hands on it now.

From the 2:05. The Itcz has started its climatological climb northwards, near 5N on the South American side now, up from near the equator only a couple weeks ago.

...ITCZ/MONSOON TROUGH...
THE MONSOON TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THE COAST OF MAURITANIA NEAR
18N16W AND CONTINUES THROUGH A TROPICAL WAVE ALONG 13N22W 7N27W
6N31W. THE ITCZ BEGINS NEAR 6N31W AND CONTINUES ALONG 7N45W
6N60W. BESIDES ACTIVITY NEAR THE TROPICAL WAVES...SCATTERED
MODERATE CONVECTION IS FROM 5N-7N BETWEEN 27W-32W. SIMILAR
ACTIVITY IS FROM 6N-9N BETWEEN 37W-44W...AND FROM 4N-10N BETWEEN
50W-60W.
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MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
228 PM EDT SAT JUN 1 2013

...GULF OF MEXICO...
MODEL PREFERENCE: WITH LITTLE OVERALL CHANGES IN LATEST MODEL
RUNS...AM LEANING WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE TO A BLEND OF THE 12Z GFS
AND 00Z ECMWF WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST THROUGH SUN NIGHT...WITH
MORE WEIGHT TOWARDS THE ECMWF. LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST FOR
THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD WITH RESPECT TO POSITION AND
INTENSITY OF FORECAST SURFACE LOW. FOR 48-72 HRS WILL LEAN MORE
TOWARD ECMWF POSITION.

A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE PREVAILS OVER THE FAR N GULF OF MEXICO.
THE SURFACE REMNANTS OF FORMER PACIFIC TROPICAL CYCLONE BARBARA
HAVE DISSIPATED WHILE THE MID-LEVEL CIRCULATION CONTINUES TO
LINGER OVER THE SW GULF WATERS. LATEST SURFACE OBSERVATIONS
INDICATE MODERATE WINDS PREVAIL OVER MUCH OF THE FORECAST
WATERS...EXCEPT FOR MODERATE TO FRESH WIND FLOW NEAR THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA. SEAS OVER THE GULF WATERS ARE IN THE 3-5 FT RANGE.

THE RIDGE WILL PREVAIL OVER THE N PART OF THE FORECAST AREA
THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE WEEKEND BEFORE IT RETREATS
EASTWARD SUN INTO MON. THE RETREATING RIDGE WILL ENABLE A WEAK
COLD FRONT TO ENTER THE NW GULF WATERS LATE SUN. THE FRONT WILL
REACH THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE TO NEAR 28N93W LATE MON...THEN DRIFT
N AND INLAND TUE AND WED.

THE MID-LEVEL REMNANTS OF FORMER EASTERN PACIFIC TROPICAL CYCLONE
BARBARA WILL LINGER OVER THE SW GULF WATERS WHERE IT WILL COME
INTO PHASE WITH A MID LATITUDE TROUGH SHIFTING ACROSS THE EASTERN
UNITED STATES THIS WEEKEND. THIS WILL STRENGTHEN THE TROUGH AND
ENABLE FOR A SURFACE CIRCULATION TO DEVELOP OVER THE SW GULF
WATERS SUN. THERE REMAINS LARGE DIFFERENCES WITH RESPECT TO THE
SPEED OF MOVEMENT OF THE LOW...BUT EACH MODEL DEPICTS A GENERAL NE
MOTION THROUGH THE MIDDLE TO LATE PART OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE
GFS AND CANADIAN MODELS ARE STILL MUCH FASTER IN LIFTING THIS
FORECAST SURFACE LOW NEWD COMPARED TO THE ECMWF AND UKMET. BASED
ON THIS UNCERTAINTY THERE REMAINS LOW CONFIDENCE FOR THE MIDDLE TO
LATE PART OF THE FORECAST PERIOD AS THIS EVOLUTION WILL HAVE AN
AFFECT ON WINDS AND SEAS ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GULF
WATERS. SEAS WILL LIKELY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED IN THE GRIDS IN THE
LOW CONFIDENCE PERIOD OF THE FORECAST.

THERE ALSO EXISTS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE SURFACE LOW THAT DOES
FORM MAY INITIALLY REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY BEFORE IT BEGINS A
MOTION TO THE NE. IN ADDITION TO THE AFOREMENTIONED FORECAST LOW
IMPACTING WINDS AND SEAS OVER MOST OF THE CENTRAL AND ERN
GULF...EXPECT A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN DEEP ATMOSPHERIC MOISTURE
IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW/TROUGH WHICH WILL LIKELY LEAD TO NUMEROUS
SHOWERS AND TSTMS ACROSS THE AFFECTED WATERS OF THE CENTRAL AND ERN GULF DURING THE MID TO LONG TERM PERIODS OF THE FORECAST. STAY
TUNED TO THE LATEST TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOKS THAT WILL PROVIDE...
WHEN APPLICABLE...ANY PROBABILITY THIS SYSTEM MAY HAVE OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbgqM0JfW0

Starts around 1:10
Gets worse after 8:30


Yea, I watched that live. Totally stupid for him to tell them to "get in their cars and part the waters with this thing."
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


I wonder how the chasers would operate in an outbreak of yesterday's magnitude in the DFW metroplex or Chicago.

Are you kidding? About three times as many would show up, along with three times the media, causing three times the problems they created in OKC.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbgqM0JfW0

Starts around 1:10
Gets worse after 8:30


Didnt he do that with the last outbreak too?
People were defending how it was common to run away from storms a few weeks ago with the last event, but I'm not sure if it was him who told people to run that time.
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Quoting Hurricane1956:
I'm not a expert neither,I just follow the news and the graphics of the potential rain amount for South Florida,I believe nobody said 20" in 3 days,we are talking about a period of almost a week as per the experts.

Well, the average rainfall for Miami in June is just shy of 9 inches. I believe the HPC precipitation estimate was for 10 days. Given that Miami has had about 20% of all Junes with a total precipitation of 20 inches or more, 20 inches in 10 days would be wet but not all that unusual. In addition, the HPC estimates almost always turn out to be wrong, usually on the high side. At least there's a chance you'll get your lawn watered, which is more than I can say for south Alabama so far.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbgqM0JfW0

Starts around 1:10


Responsibility is a myth!
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Quoting beell:


It was repeated multiple times. Same advice given for the May 20th, Moore tornado-a totally different scenario at the least.
Also for Carney EF3 as well a day before that.
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Did he really say that? A statement like that is so irresponsible I am not sure I believe that. Is there a vid clip of him or someone else saying so? If he really did he should be fired.

Yes, he did. The Washington Post has a series of great articles about yesterday's events as well as video of Mike Morgan's idiotic advice to OKC residents. Anyone at all interested in tornadoes, the media, and storm chasing should read this article.
Story Link
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Quoting StAugustineFL:


Yes, can be seen here after the 8:30 mark.

Link



Oh my god. He really did at 8:48. I didn't really believe it until I heard it.
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Did he really say that? A statement like that is so irresponsible I am not sure I believe that. Is there a vid clip of him or someone else saying so? If he really did he should be fired.


It was repeated multiple times. Same advice given for the May 20th, Moore tornado-a totally different scenario at the least.
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Surely hubris and stormchasing wouldn't mix. :)

It would be an interesting exercise to compare chasers by counting the number of shots they release showing themselves and their toys, as compared to the shots they release of the objects of their pursuit.

I have no spur
To prick the sides of my intent, but only
Vaulting ambition, which o'erleaps itself,
And falls on th'other...

Macbeth Act 1, scene 7. 25–28
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Quoting StAugustineFL:


Mike Morgan with KFOR in OKC.
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Did he really say that? A statement like that is so irresponsible I am not sure I believe that. Is there a vid clip of him or someone else saying so? If he really did he should be fired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbgqM0JfW0

Starts around 1:10
Gets worse after 8:30
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Quoting sar2401:

I believe the Dominator, Tornado Hunt 2013, and about 300 other assorted chasers were pretty close to a big city yesterday. They tend to go where the tornadoes are.


I wonder how the chasers would operate in an outbreak of yesterday's magnitude in the DFW metroplex or Chicago.
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Did he really say that? A statement like that is so irresponsible I am not sure I believe that. Is there a vid clip of him or someone else saying so? If he really did he should be fired.


Yes, can be seen here after the 8:30 mark.

Link
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Quoting sar2401:

I obviously have no clue except for my own opinion but tell you what...if South Florida gets 20+ inches of rain in the next three days, I'll donate $100 to your favorite charity.
I'm not a expert neither,I just follow the news and the graphics of the potential rain amount for South Florida,I believe nobody said 20" in 3 days,we are talking about a period of almost a week as per the experts.
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RE 13:

Who makes up the phonetics of these names; any idea?

I'm not one to complain but...

"Melissa (meh-lith-suh)"

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Quoting FunnelVortex:


Stormchasers generally avoid cities.

I believe the Dominator, Tornado Hunt 2013, and about 300 other assorted chasers were pretty close to a big city yesterday. They tend to go where the tornadoes are.
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Quoting Hurricanes101:


If not for the stormchasers, we may have had way more than 9 people die last night. They do give us a great service by covering these storms; which gives us more information about them. They aren't doing it as a hobby and because they are adrenaline junkies; they do it because it is what they love and they are trained to do it well. Even the most trained get caught at times however, but those who have no knowledge of the subject chose to lash out at them.

Maybe in some situations, but not last night. During the event, radar data was not ambiguous that a significant tornado situation was unfolding. This was independent of any data that might have been reported to TV and the NWS in realtime.

And yes, I can guarantee you that numerous people out chasing are there for adrenaline only, not collecting scientific data, and not relaying their data to the NWS.

It's not people with "no knowledge of the subject" that are scolding what storm chasing has become. Quite far from it. This is coming from someone with knowledge of the subject, who used to chase storms, and was even briefly involved with a scientific chase team.

It doesn't matter for what reason people chase storms. People need to understand that you must respect mother nature and the unpredictable things that she can do, because she has no respect for you no matter who you are.

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Quoting StAugustineFL:


Mike Morgan with KFOR in OKC.


Did he really say that? A statement like that is so irresponsible I am not sure I believe that. Is there a vid clip of him or someone else saying so? If he really did he should be fired.
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Quoting moonlightcowboy:
Who was the weather genius that told folks to leave quasi safety and to get into their cars and leave? Watching all of that unfold yesterday, I cringed at the thought of a twister plowing through those jam-packed, stalled interstate car lots.


Mike Morgan with KFOR in OKC.
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Quoting Hurricane1956:
From what I'm reading on this great weather blog,and looking at some of the Models,it seems to be that Florida will be the setup for a major!! weather event probably starting tomorrow night.
We are located in Miami South Florida.Can we truly expect 20"+ of rain and stormy weather in our area?,already looking at the Caribbean & Gulf of Mexico Rainbow Loops we can see a lot!! of rain in moisture,that we don't believe is related in our humble opinion to the system that the Models are showing,if all the rain move up North in our direction I believe the bad weather will start in South Florida and up much sooner than the middle of next week.
Any thoughts or comments on this??.

I obviously have no clue except for my own opinion but tell you what...if South Florida gets 20+ inches of rain in the next three days, I'll donate $100 to your favorite charity.
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Quoting anotherwrongyear:
i dont see anything developing here or anywhere that will affect florida..... so whats all the talk that florida will get hit in 4 or 5 days?


The remnant low from Barbara. It is causing storms across the Yukitan. It could develop into a new system.
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Quoting anotherwrongyear:
i dont see anything developing here or anywhere that will affect florida..... so whats all the talk that florida will get hit in 4 or 5 days?


Not a strong system. Just a weak sheared system if it does develop. However its the rain associated with it. The system is predicted to pull a lot of moisture from the tropics as the monsoonal energy rise north. Could be between 10 - 20'' inches. Already see dark cloud rolling since this afternoon.
getting ready for a rainy day from
sunday thru next week
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Mike bettes crew experience a tornado like off the movie Twister when the guy tries to cross the bridge but the twin nadoes hit there truck.
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Quoting anotherwrongyear:
i dont see anything developing here or anywhere that will affect florida..... so whats all the talk that florida will get hit in 4 or 5 days?
Please check all the latest Hurricane Models and you will see why we are talking about (maybe) a storm for Florida,or at the very least a lot of stormy weather in the next few days for all of florida.
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This news story says 9 dead in the tornadoes and one body found in a creek. It seems like the death toll is 10 but the article doesn't make it clear.
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Eau dear.
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Quoting Patrap:
..er,,maybe some Helmet's in the next Budget,eh Guy's?


LOL...Some helmets might help if they are dumb enough to be outside doing a Cantore shot when the hood of "Dominator" gets ripped off again. BTW, am I the only one that thinks naming your...I don't know, monstrosity...."Dominator" demonstrates an amazing amount of hubris?
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Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Wonder what their insurance policy clauses are!


If that car is insured against tornado damage I want to know the company name so I can avoid giving them my business...

:)
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Dr. Masters mentioned me in his entry. Pretty cool! Glad he liked the link.
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