Winter storm to spread heavy snow from North Dakota to Virginia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:44 PM GMT on March 04, 2013

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The flakes are flying in Minnesota and North Dakota, where up to 10" of snow has fallen from an "Alberta Clipper" that is barreling southeastwards across the U.S. These type of storms, so-named because they originate in Alberta and clip along at a fast forward speed, typically bring the Midwest moderate amounts of fluffy snow that is relatively easy to shovel. The storm, dubbed Winter Storm Saturn by The Weather Channel and "Snowquester" by The Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang, is expected to bring a swath of 6 - 10" of snow from Minnesota to Virginia Monday through Wednesday, with Chicago expected to get 6 - 9", their biggest snow of the season. Once the storm moves off the coast on Wednesday, its strong winds will make coastal flooding a major concern for the Mid-Atlantic coast, particularly Delaware, on Wednesday and Thursday. The computer models are still showing quite a bit of disagreement on what the storm might do on Wednesday. The European model has been the most consistent model, and maintains that the storm will not bring heavy snow to New England. I would lean towards this solution at present. However, keep in mind that the latest run of the GFS model shows a more northerly track, with heavy snow falling along a swath of coast from Long Island, NY, to Boston, MA, Wednesday through Thursday. The exact position of the rain/snow boundary along the Mid-Atlantic coast is also quite uncertain. Washington D.C. could end up with mostly rain, and just 1 - 2" of snow, or get a 6+ inch dumping, picking up more snow from one storm than from the all the snowstorms from the past two winters, combined:

Reagan Nat'l Airport (DCA):
- Snowfall this season-to-date:  1.5"
- Snowfall all last season:  2"
- Last 5"+ snow event:  Jan. 26, 2011 (5")
- Last 10"+ snow event:  Feb. 9-10, 2010 (10.8")

Dulles Airport, Virginia (IAD)
- Snowfall this season-to-date:  5.3"
- Snowfall all last season:  3.7"
- Last 5"+ snow event:  Jan. 26, 2011 (7.3")
- Last 10"+ snow event:  Feb. 9-10, 2010 (9.3")

(Thanks go to Jonathan Erdman of TWC for these stats.) The Capital Weather Gang has an interesting article on historical March snowstorms in Washington D.C. In order for Winter Storm Saturn to crack the top-ten, it would have to dump at least 6.6" of snow on the nation's capital.



Coastal flooding a concern in the Mid-Atlantic
As the storm moves off the coast on Wednesday night, winds gusting to 50 mph will build waves of up to 15' and a 3 - 4' storm surge along the coast to the north of the center. Heavy rains will bring runoff down rivers that will act to increase water levels along the coast. The latest Forecast Discussion from the Mount Holly, NJ NWS office highlights the likelihood of at least moderate coastal flooding in Delaware during the high tide cycles on Wednesday afternoon and Thursday morning, with the possibility of major flooding. The latest storm surge forecast from the GFS model calls for a storm surge of around 3' at Lewes, Delaware on Thursday morning, which would bring the 8th highest water level on record to the coast. This is of concern due to the damage Hurricane Sandy brought in October, which weakened the dunes and left the coast more vulnerable to erosion. Sandy brought the 3rd highest water level on record to Lewes.

We'll have ongoing coverage this week of Winter Storm Saturn in our Winter Storm Section.

Jeff Masters

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This was just issued for my area north of NYC..

201 PM EST MON MAR 4 2013

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHERN
CONNECTICUT...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

FORECAST UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDS THE EXACT DETAILS OF HOW THIS STORM
WILL EVOLVE...BUT THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR:

* SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW.
* WIND GUSTS OF 50 TO 60 MPH.

* MINOR TO MODERATE COASTAL FLOODING.
* HIGH SURF AND SIGNIFICANT BEACH EROSION ALONG THE OCEAN FACING
BEACHES AND TWIN FORKS OF LONG ISLAND.

so it's going to be cold enough for snow for SW coastal CT/NYC
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Quoting pcola57:


I think they are right in doing so.
GFS is really not making the grade..
JMO..


I agree... GFS has been slacking
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The 12Z GFS currently shows the upcoming NE storm as a textbook example of Norwegian frontal theory. The cyclone lies in the left exit region of the upper-level jet streak, so it shouldn't be a warm seclusion, which is also supported by the closed ring of lower thickness directly around the center.

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Quoting ncstorm:
I just love the women running things on WU..

Girl Power!

I'm out till later..
Just means you boys are taking your nappie time! LOL
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Yes, this seems like more of a winter than we've had in recent years here too. We had a freeze 2 nights ago. Don't know if that will be our last. Hope so. :)
It certainly has here as well.I have seen several days this winter with temps never touching the freezing mark.Something that seemed like a rare occurance in 2012.The coldest day....32 degrees.lol #FAIL winter it was.
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Quoting ncstorm:
I just love the women running things on WU..

Girl Power!

I'm out till later..


LOL !!
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I just love the women running things on WU..

Girl Power!

I'm out till later..
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Quoting washingtonian115:
Hello AthomeTx.The trees buds are fighting their way out but unlike last year the temps have stopped them from rapidly blooming.Last March we were approaching the 90's.


Yes, this seems like more of a winter than we've had in recent years here too. We had a freeze 2 nights ago. Don't know if that will be our last. Hope so. :)
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Quoting ncstorm:
another east coast storm on the CMC with mostly rain




I have been watching the areas cloud/storm that follow the current event you can see two rather decent areas of interest in the North Pacfic. I understand one is being mooted to bring severe weather to the MS valley...

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Quoting ncstorm:


looks like the cold may be here for a while..I hope its gone by Easter though..kinda hard to wear spring dresses in 30 degree weather..


Yeah I hear you on that ! oh well it is 4 weeks away it might be up to average by then !
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Quoting VR46L:


Those Maps have been Majority Blue for a couple of weeks now and appear to be verifying.


looks like the cold may be here for a while..I hope its gone by Easter though..kinda hard to wear spring dresses in 30 degree weather..
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another east coast storm on the CMC with mostly rain


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Quoting ncstorm:




Those Maps have been Majority Blue for a couple of weeks now and appear to be verifying.
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102. VR46L
Big difference at @72hr.... Euro sends it to sea and Not New England ...Sorry

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Light band of snow coming through.

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Hello AthomeTx.The trees buds are fighting their way out but unlike last year the temps have stopped them from rapidly blooming.Last March we were approaching the 90's.
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...VOLUNTEER PRECIPITATION OBSERVERS NEEDED IN CALIFORNIA...

Excerpt:

NUMEROUS LOCATIONS AROUND CALIFORNIA...ESPECIALLY IN THE MOUNTAINS
AND DESERTS...LACK VALUABLE PRECIPITATION REPORTING.
COCORAHS...WHICH STANDS FOR COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE RAIN HAIL AND
SNOW NETWORK...IS A NON-PROFIT GROUP OF VOLUNTEER PRECIPITATION
OBSERVERS. THEY REPORT DAILY RAIN...HAIL...AND SNOW TOTALS IN
ADDITION TO ANY SIGNIFICANT WEATHER AS IT OCCURS. ANYONE CAN
JOIN...AND IT IS EASY TO REPORT THE INFORMATION! ALL YOU NEED IS A
4 INCH RAIN GAUGE...THE INTERNET...AND A FEW MINUTES EACH DAY.
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A tale of two states. Parts of Louisiana have had too much rain while just across the border Texas starts to go below normal.

March 1st ended out meteorological winter which is from December through February. So here's a look at how much rain fell over the area during climatological winter. The top image is total rainfall and the bottom image is how much different that is from normal. Parts of St Martin Parish got more than 15 inches of rainfall above what is considered normal!

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Looks like the models as making this a new England storm.The precipitation is creeping ever so slowly north...
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Almost identical, Euro slightly south and weaker.
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12Z Euro is in fact north, now getting moderate precip into NYC on Thursday early AM

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12z UKMET


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Possible severe weather outbreak in a week or so..
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MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1236 PM EST MON MAR 04 2013

...PAIR OF DISTURBANCES INITIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND
SWRN U.S...
...EVENTUAL MERGER AND AMPLIFICATION OVER THE MIDWEST LEADING TO S
SIGNIFICANT UPPER LOW MOVING FROM THE LOWER OHIO/UPPER TENNESSEE
VALLEY TO THE MID ATLANTIC COAST ON TUESDAY TO WEDNESDAY...

PREFERENCES: STILL A 00Z ECMWF/12Z GFS BLEND...
CONFIDENCE: NO MORE THAN AVERAGE BUT THAT MAY CHANGE SOON.


OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS...THE MODEL DIFFERENCES WITH THIS COMPLEX
SYSTEM HAVE DIMINISHED ALTHOUGH THERE CONTINUES TO BE SYSTEMATIC
MODEL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE GFS/NAM CAMP AND THE ECMWF/UKMET
CAMP. THE NCEP MODELS...INCLUDING THE SREF ENSEMBLES/NAM/GFS/GEFS
ARE SYSTEMATICALLY FARTHER NORTH THAN WITH THE UPPER LOW STARTING
ON TUESDAY OVER THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEY AND INCREASING ON
WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY...ALTHOUGH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 09Z
SREF MEAN/06Z GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN WITH REGARD TO
SPEED APPEARS PRETTY UNIFORM THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND
EVENING WHEN THE SURFACE LOW IS ALONG THE EAST COAST.

OVERNIGHT...THE 00Z UKMET TRENDED NORTH FROM EARLIER RUNS AND
APPEARED TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE 00Z ECMWF...WHEREAS EARLIER IT
WAS MORE OF A SOUTHERN OUTLIER. THE LAST FEW RUNS OF THE ECMWF
HAVE INDICATED A TENDENCY FOR THE UPPER LOW TO BE SLIGHTLY FARTHER
NORTH AND FASTER AS THE SYSTEM APPROACHES AND CROSSES THE EAST
COAST. THE LAST 3 RUNS OF THE GFS THROUGH 6Z HAVE ALSO BEEN VERY
STABLE...WITH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE GFS/ECMWF ALSO
CONTINUING. THE 12Z RUN OF THE GFS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN EARLIER
RUNS EXCEPT FOR SOME VERY MINOR DIFFERENCES. THEREFORE...THE 12Z
GFS PROVIDES NO NEW INFORMATION EXCEPT THAT IT HAS BEEN VERY
CONSISTENT WITH ITSELF. HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT THE 12Z UKMET AND
CANADIAN EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE IT YET...BUT
BOTH SEEM TO SUPPORT THE 12Z GFS...WITH THE 12Z UKMET CONTINUING
ITS TREND OF MOVING NORTH OF THE RUNS 24 HOURS AND GREATER. THE
12Z CANADIAN DOES NOT TAKE MUCH SNOWFALL INTO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND
ON THURSDAY. WILL HAVE MORE TO SAY IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION WHEN I
HAVE HAD MORE TIME TO DIGEST.

STILL AWAITING THE 12Z ECMWF TO SEE IF IT TOO HAS TRENDED
NORTHWARD. IF NOT...THE UNCERTAINTY REMAINS TO A
DEGREE.
..ESPECIALLY NORTH OF THE WASHINGTON BALTIMORE AREA...WHERE
THE ECMWF HAS PRODUCED LITTLE TO NO SNOWFALL NORTH OF
PHILADELPHIA. THAT MAY CHANGE WITH THE 12Z RUN.

IN THE LAST COUPLE RUNS...THE 12Z NAM HAS TRENDED NORTHWARD ONCE
THE CYCLONE IS EAST OF THE COAST...ALLOWING SNOW TO REACH
NORTHWARD INTO LONG ISLAND AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND...SOMETHING
THAT THE RECENT RUNS OF THE GFS AND THE 00Z RUN OF THE UKMET
DOES...BUT THE 00Z ECMWF AND 00Z CANADIAN DO NOT. THE NAM 500 MB
LOW IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THE REASONABLE SPREAD OF SOLUTIONS SHOWN
BY THE ENSEMBLE MEANS BUT THE SURFACE LOW IS SLIGHTLY FARTHER
NORTH OF THE OTHER SOLUTIONS AND CLOSER TO THE COAST BY WEDNESDAY
AFTERNOON THAN THE EARLIER OPERATIONAL RUNS AS WELL AS THE
ENSEMBLE MEANS...EXCEPT FOR THE 09Z SREF ENSEMBLE MEAN WHERE THE
SURFACE LOWS ARE NEARLY EXACT.
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Quoting pcola57:


I think they are right in doing so.
GFS is really not making the grade..
JMO..


Yeah,I would tend to agree,but I always look for consistency and GFS has been hanging on to this for several runs,so that is a concern.But Europeans models have definitely outperformed the American models this year,so it would make more sense to follow them.Lets see who changes over the next couple of days.
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Live mobile 'Saturn' video from Minneapolis MN. Already streamed out a car on I94 spinning out and going into the ditch live!
LNVN live video - Minneapolis MN
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Quoting aspectre:
Kazuyo Miyashita, 40, her two daughters Misa, 17, and Sayo, 14, and her son Daiki, 11, died at a hospital of carbon-monoxide poisoning after their car was buried by snow.

In yet another incident, a 53year-old died after getting buried in the snow. His 9-year-old daughter found with him was recovering.
Haruna Kitagawa, 23, froze to death after leaving her car, stuck in the snow.
In total, 8 people on HokkaidoIsland,Japan were killed by the weekend snowstorm.

Saw the video on TWC. Very sad.
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Quoting pcola57:


I think they are right in doing so.
GFS is really not making the grade..
JMO..
Yes, another European science that is putting the US behind the signs of the times.
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Kazuyo Miyashita, 40, her two daughters Misa, 17, and Sayo, 14, and her son Daiki, 11, died at a hospital of carbon-monoxide poisoning after their car was buried by snow.

In yet another incident, a 53year-old died after getting buried in the snow. His 9-year-old daughter found with him was recovering.
Haruna Kitagawa, 23, froze to death after leaving her car stuck in the snow.
In total, 8 people on HokkaidoIsland,Japan were killed by the weekend snowstorm. While the article doesn't mention the specific causes, the two men probably died of heart attack while shoveling snow off their roofs, driveways, or sidewalks.

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Quoting JustPlantIt:
I hope to tomorrow. Have been ill... no fun. I teach children how to pet the 'Humble bumble'. Loaded with pollen and on a flower, you can pet them! Pretty amazing. Kids love it.
PS:) Hope they are already aware of this. Just wonder who those 'Stakeholders' are. I am sure that I know. Monsanto comes to mind.
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Quoting pcola57:



Hey Justplantit..
Possibly needs to be brought up about Europe's success..
Don't forget the webinar is tomorrow 8-5pm Est..

You can enter HERE and participate as a Guest..




I hope to tomorrow. Have been ill... no fun. I teach children how to pet the 'Humble bumble'. Loaded with pollen and on a flower, you can pet them! Pretty amazing. Kids love it.
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Quoting NEwxguy:
Forecasters up here are ignoring GFS completely.


I think they are right in doing so.
GFS is really not making the grade..
JMO..
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Forecasters up here are ignoring GFS completely.
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Quoting JustPlantIt:
Neonicetinoid pesticides need to be banned. Europe has done this and the honey bee is making a comeback.



Hey Justplantit..
Possibly needs to be brought up about Europe's success..
Don't forget the webinar is tomorrow 8-5pm Est..

You can enter HERE and participate as a Guest..




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Astronomy Picture of the Day

IC 1805: The Heart Nebula - 2013 March 4



Explanation: Sprawling across almost 200 light-years, emission nebula IC 1805 is a mix of glowing interstellar gas and dark dust clouds. Derived from its Valentine's-Day-approved shape, its nickname is the Heart Nebula. About 7,500 light-years away in the Perseus spiral arm of our galaxy, stars were born in IC 1805. In fact, near the cosmic heart's center are the massive hot stars of a newborn star cluster also known as Melotte 15, about 1.5 million years young. A little ironically, the Heart Nebula is located in the constellation of the mythical Queen of Aethiopia (Cassiopeia). This deep view of the region around the Heart Nebula spans about two degrees on the sky or about four times the diameter of the Full Moon.
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Quoting pcola57:
Earth Science Image of the day

The Pyramids of Ancient Egypt and the Great Sphinx - March 04, 2013




Panorama Photos of the Pyramids

Nice pic and there doesn't appear to be any sinkholes.
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Squall line?

also has strong LLJ so it might be a line of supercells and bows capable of tornados, instability though may be lacking so it might just be a line:







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Earth Science Image of the day

The Pyramids of Ancient Egypt and the Great Sphinx - March 04, 2013




Panorama Photos of the Pyramids

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Quoting pcola57:
Media Advisory: EPAs Pollinator Summit on March 5



WASHINGTON - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) will hold a public meeting with key stakeholders to collaborate on activities to protect honey bees and other pollinators from pesticide risks.

Bees are an important component of agricultural production and are critical to food and ecosystems. The summit will be an opportunity to advance our collective understanding and efforts to protect them.

The EPA has been working aggressively to protect honey bees and other pollinators. The summit is part of the agency%u2019s ongoing collaboration with beekeepers, growers, pesticide manufacturers and federal and state agencies to manage potential risks to bees.

WHAT: EPA and USDA Pollinator Summit

WHO: Officials from EPA, USDA, agricultural workers and farmers; beekeepers; pesticide industry and trade associations; environmental, consumer, and farm worker groups; animal welfare organizations; pesticide users and growers; pest consultants; state, local and tribal governments and academia.

WHEN: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. EST

WHERE: Live streamed webinar will be conducted over Adobe Connect:
Link for tomorrows meeting..
https://epa.connectsolutions.com/crosspollinate/
Neonicetinoid pesticides need to be banned. Europe has done this and the honey bee is making a comeback.
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THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL DELAWARE...NORTHERN
DELAWARE...SOUTHERN DELAWARE...NORTHEAST MARYLAND...CENTRAL NEW
JERSEY...NORTHERN NEW JERSEY...SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST
PENNSYLVANIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

A STRONG COASTAL STORM WILL IMPACT PORTIONS OF THE AREA WEDNESDAY
INTO THURSDAY. PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN ARE LIKELY AND THE RAIN WILL
PROBABLY CHANGE TO WET SNOW AT TIMES....POSSIBLY WITH BURST OF HEAVY
SNOW. A PERIOD OR TWO OF STRONG NORTHEAST WIND GUSTS OF 50 TO POSSIBLY
60 MPH CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE COASTS WEDNESDAY INTO EARLY THURSDAY.
MODERATE TO POSSIBLY MAJOR TIDAL FLOODING IS POSSIBLE ALONG THE
ATLANTIC COAST OF DELAWARE WITH AT LEAST MINOR...IF NOT MODERATE
TIDAL FLOODING POSSIBLE ALONG THE NEW JERSEY COAST.

A WINTER STORM WATCH...COASTAL FLOOD WATCH AND HIGH WIND WATCH "MAY"
BE ISSUED FOR THE APPROPRIATE PORTIONS OF OUR AREA IN OUR 330 PM
FORECASTS. WE STILL HAVEN`T EVALUATED ALL THE DAYTIME GUIDANCE TO
BE SURE ON OUR COURSE OF ACTION.

THE WINTER STORM WATCH WOULD BE FROM ROUGHLY DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY
MORNING INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING FROM THE PHILADELPHIA METRO AREA
SOUTHWESTWARD INTO FAR NORTHERN DELAWARE AND CECIL COUNTY OF
NORTHEAST MARYLAND AND THEN POSSIBLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN HALF
OF NEW JERSEY FOR WEDNESDAY MID AFTERNOON INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
ABOVE FREEZING TEMPERATURES DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS SHOULD LESSEN
THE POTENTIAL AMOUNT OF ANY SNOW ACCUMULATION.

THE COASTAL FLOOD WATCH WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR BOTH THE NEW
JERSEY AND DELAWARE ATLANTIC COASTS FOR THE MID WEDNESDAY
AFTERNOON AND PREDAWN THURSDAY HIGH TIDE CYCLES. THIS WATCH WILL
PROBABLY NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE TIDAL DELAWARE.

THE HIGH WIND WATCH IF WE ISSUE...WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR CAPE MAY
COUNTY...COASTAL MONMOUTH... COASTAL OCEAN AND COASTAL ATLANTIC
COUNTIES IN NEW JERSEY THROUGH SUSSEX COUNTY DELAWARE WHERE THERE
IS GREATEST CONFIDENCE FOR A PERIOD OF SUSTAINED NORTHEAST WINDS
EXCEEDING 40 MILES PER HOUR WITH POSSIBLE GUSTS TO NEAR 60.

AGAIN THIS A POSSIBILITY FOR OUR 330 PM PRODUCTS AND THE ABOVE
OUTLINES OUR AREAS OF GREATEST CONCERN.

MINOR CHANGES IN LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROFILE AND TRACK OF THE
SURFACE LOW MAY RESULT IN LARGE CHANGES TO THE OUTCOME.

PLEASE MONITOR LATER FORECASTS FOR UPDATES REGARDING THIS
POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIAL COASTAL STORM.
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National Geographic Article.. Rain Forest for Sale




Photograph by Steve Winter, National Geographic

This Month in Photo of the Day: National Geographic Magazine Features

From the bromeliads, ferns, and orchids that cover a kapok tree 160 feet above the forest floor to the jaguars that prowl below, Ecuador's Yasuní National Park is home to countless plant and animal species. All of them now face threats from oil development.
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Quoting pcola57:
European Space Agency Image of the Day..Seeing Venus through Saturn's rings..





Been there, done that. Scuba diving under the ice on Enceladus was a blast, too. Forgot to pack the camera, though. Ah, well.
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Now GFS isnt this much more sensible?

before:


now
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nam hr 60
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European Space Agency Image of the Day..Seeing Venus through Saturn's rings..



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nam hr 57
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Quoting PedleyCA:
941-New Blog Ped ....Maybe you want the last word...

Hey I was still catching up and was oblivious to the Bot till I stumbled upon it. Only 15-30 minutes out of tune with reality..... lol

Thanks for the Update Dr. Masters....


Sorry , Only Messing with ya Ped :p

My Bad

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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


whoops, my bad.

yeah....I meant to say cleveland.

Did you guys really have to have 3 "c" cities? :)


Ha! If you count Canton we have no less than 4 "c" cities in Ohio. Now I live near Boulder, Colorado, which is surrounded by what we call the "L" towns (Lyons, Longmont, Louisville, Lafayette, Loveland, Lakewood, and Littleton are all within about one hour of Boulder).
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