Arctic sea ice volume now one-fifth its 1979 level

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:52 AM GMT on February 19, 2013

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The stunning loss of Arctic sea ice extent in recent years is undeniable--satellite measurements have conclusively shown that half of the Arctic sea ice went missing in September 2012, compared to the average September during 1979 - 2000. But the extent of ice cover is not the best measure of how the fire raging in Earth's attic is affecting sea ice--the total volume of the ice is more important. But up until 2010, we didn't have the measurements needed to say how the total volume of ice in the Arctic might be changing. Scientists relied on the University of Washington PIOMAS model, which suggested that the loss of Arctic sea ice volume during September might be approaching 75% - 80%. The model results were widely criticized by climate change skeptics as being unrealistic. However, in April 2010, a new satellite called Cryostat-2 was launched, which can measure ice volume by beaming pulses of microwave energy off of the ice. With two years of data to Cryosat-2 data to analyze, the results of the PIOMAS model have now been confirmed by a study published on-line in February 2013 in Geophysical Research Letters. In a University of Washington news release, co-author Axel Schweiger said, "people had argued that 75 to 80 percent ice volume loss was too aggressive. What this new paper shows is that our ice loss estimates may have been too conservative, and that the recent decline is possibly more rapid." The U.K.'s Natural Environmental Research Council reported that the team of scientists found that from 2003 to 2012, the volume of Arctic sea ice declined 36% in the autumn and 9% in the winter. The measure of sea ice volume is a good indicator of how the Arctic's most stable, "multi-year" ice is fairing. As the multi-year ice declines, sea ice extent, the total area covered by sea ice, in an "Arctic death spiral". The new study shows that thick, multi-year ice has disappeared in areas north of Greenland, around the Canadian Archipelago, and to the northeast of Svalbard, Norway.


Figure 1. Arctic sea ice volume in thousands of cubic kilometers during the September minimum in 1979 compared to 2012, as estimated by the University of Washington PIOMAS model. Arctic seas ice volume has declined by more than a factor of five. Image credit; Andy Lee Robinson.


Figure 2. The Polar-5 aircraft, carrying the EM instrument that was used to validate Cryosat-2 sea ice thickness measurements, flying over the validation site. Image credit: R. Willatt.

Why care about Arctic sea ice loss?
If you remove an area of sea ice 43% the size of the contiguous U.S. from the ocean, like occurred in September 2012, it is guaranteed to have a significant impact on weather and climate. The extra heat and moisture added to the atmosphere as a result of all that open water over the pole may already be altering jet stream patterns in fall and winter, bringing an increase in extreme weather events. The record sea ice loss in 2012 also contributed to an unprecedented melting event in Greenland. Continued sea ice loss will further increase melting from Greenland, contributing to sea level rise and storm surge damages. Sea ice loss will also continue to crank up the thermostat over Arctic permafrost regions. This will potentially release a significant fraction of the vast amounts of carbon currently locked in the permafrost, further accelerating global warming.

Related Posts
Earth's attic is on fire: Arctic sea ice bottoms out at a new record low (September 2012)
Half of the polar ice cap is missing: Arctic sea ice hits a new record low. September 6, 2012 blog post
Wunderground's Sea Ice page
Arctic Death Spiral Bombshell: CryoSat-2 Confirms Sea Ice Volume Has Collapsed by Joe Romm at climateprogress.org.

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NEXT WEEK...

RECENT HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE REGION HAS ELEVATED RIVER LEVELS
ABOVE BASE FLOWS AND SATURATED SOILS ACROSS ALL OF SOUTHEASTERN
ALABAMA...SOUTHERN GEORGIA AND PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.
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EXPECTED TO RETURN TO BASE LEVELS BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND OF
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HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. HOWEVER...CONFIDENCE
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BEGINNING ON FRIDAY AND CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST TUESDAY. BECAUSE
THESE STORM SYSTEMS ARE EXPECTED TO BE SLOW MOVING AND PULL IN A
CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF GULF MOISTURE...THE POTENTIAL FOR A FLOOD
EVENT OF COMPARABLE MAGNITUDE OR GREATER THAN LAST WEEK IS
POSSIBLE INTO NEXT WEEK.

THE FIRST RAINFALL EVENT ON FRIDAY SHOULD CONTINUE INTO SUNDAY AND
HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE WIDESPREAD RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO
4 INCHES ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION. LOCALLY HEAVIER RAINFALL
TOTALS ARE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND INTO
SOUTHWESTERN GEORGIA SHOULD THIS SYSTEM MOVE SLOWER THAN EXPECTED.

THE SECOND RAINFALL EVENT IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN ON MONDAY AND
LAST THROUGH TUESDAY. RAINFALL AMOUNTS WITH THIS SYSTEM ARE MORE
UNCERTAIN BUT COULD EASILY MEET OR EXCEED PREVIOUS RAINFALL FROM
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AVERAGE STORM TOTAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS THROUGH TUESDAY...

SOUTHEAST ALABAMA.........4 TO 7 INCHES
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SOUTHWESTERN GEORGIA......3 TO 5 INCHES
SOUTH CENTRAL GEORGIA.....3 TO 4 INCHES
FLORIDA BIG BEND..........2 TO 4 INCHES

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT LOCALLY HEAVIER STORM TOTALS DOUBLE
THESE AVERAGE AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE.

WITH ALREADY SATURATED SOILS IN MANY LOCATIONS...RAINFALL AMOUNTS
OF THIS MAGNITUDE COULD CREATE ANOTHER ROUND OF DANGEROUS FLASH
FLOODING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHWESTERN GEORGIA.

IMPACTS ON RIVERS...

SHOULD THESE ANTICIPATED RAINFALL AMOUNTS OCCUR...SIGNIFICANT
RISES ON AREA RIVERS AND STREAMS WOULD BE LIKELY. CURRENTLY...THE
FOLLOWING BASINS ARE WELL ABOVE BASE FLOWS AND VULNERABLE TO
FLOODING...

CHOCTAWHATCHEE...INCREASED FLOODING POTENTIAL BETWEEN GENEVA AND
BRUCE INTO NEXT WEEK.

CHIPOLA...INCREASED FLOODING POTENTIAL AT MARIANNA AND ALTHA INTO
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APALACHICOLA...MINOR FLOODING POTENTIAL AT BLOUNTSTOWN CONTINUING
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Quoting Pipejazz:


Not to get metaphysical...or maybe so... The above (with citation by handle) is now on my office wall. I have long tried to teach that facts are not subject to a democratic vote. We Americans "think" we can vote on most things and choose most things. This is an American myth, but I'll admit, it does feel good and right. This may seem to be the truth, but of course is really not the fact.


Isn't that unexpected and awesome :) My late night brain droppings are hanging on an office wall. Thank you for the kind words.

I sometimes have to chuckle at the uniquely American concept that we should be able to think and do anything we want because we inherited the right to do so. But everywhere in the universe, the square root of 9 will remain absolute whether Americans legislate it or not :)
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Quoting PedleyCA:


The words NASCAR and Inclement weather are practically on equal terms or so it seems sometimes. How do you say rain delay. Wind just makes it very
interesting.


It will be all about the timing of the front that is predicted to move through I would think...

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False-color detail of Jupiter's atmosphere, imaged by Voyager 1, showing the Great Red Spot and a passing white oval.Aurora on Jupiter. Three bright dots are created by magnetic flux tubes that connect to the Jovian moons Io (on the left), Ganymede (on the bottom) and Europa (also on the bottom). In addition, the very bright almost circular region, called the main oval, and the fainter polar aurora can be seen.
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Quoting Minnemike:
the hexagonal formation on Saturn makes sense to me.. it's part of the cycle of fluid dynamics to form such features. granted, this is my intuitive layman's attempt to address the mystery ;)
i'm no scientician or mathematist...



I like the idea! While simple, many times a hypothesis should start with a simple but sensible beginning.

The one problem is that the hexagonal pattern on Neptune looks so darn symmetrical its scary. Although I can see the similarity in the images you posted, the problem is that the each side looks just too straight with nearly sharp corners...
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Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I just made an exciting discovery, for me anyway. I have spotted two Scissor-tailed flycatchers in the ficus tree where I work. They have been there for two days now. Since this is the Oklahoma state bird, I assume they are migrating north and have stopped by this resort for r&r. I have never seen them here before, not that I have been looking, but I was excited to see them and identify them. LOL, I guess this is the true sign of old age, excitement at spotting a bird I have never seen before. I have been enjoying the antics of the hummingbirds that have decided to stay around all winter, for the second year in a row. I guess they will be leaving soon. So people, despite the snow and cold up north, spring is right around the corner, per the birds. I hope they are right!



Animals seem to be much more "in tune" with their intuitive intelligence than modern man. Maybe it's because animals need to in order to survive, because humans have it too. Ancient cultures and primitive cultures today seem to know certain things intuitively that is amazing. I think sadly modern man has somewhat rejected the value of intuitive thinking just because we don't necessarily need it for survival anymore unlike early man, or at least we think we don't need it!

It's actually is very important in meteorology for accurate forecasting.


Of course I'm implying a balance of both logical decisions/thoughts and intuitive.
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Quoting Minnemike:
the hexagonal formation on Saturn makes sense to me.. it's part of the cycle of fluid dynamics to form such features. granted, this is my intuitive layman's attempt to address the mystery ;)
i'm no scientician or mathematist...


Interesting hypothesis Mike.
Nicely illustrated too!
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Quoting pcola57:
NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day



Explanation: Why would clouds form a hexagon on Saturn? Nobody is sure. Originally discovered during the Voyager flybys of Saturn in the 1980s, nobody has ever seen anything like it anywhere else in the Solar System. If Saturn's South Pole wasn't strange enough with its rotating vortex, Saturn's North Pole might be considered even stranger. The bizarre cloud pattern is shown above in great detail by a recent image taken by the Saturn-orbiting Cassini spacecraft. This and similar images show the stability of the hexagon even 20 years after Voyager. Movies of Saturn's North Pole show the cloud structure maintaining its hexagonal structure while rotating. Unlike individual clouds appearing like a hexagon on Earth, the Saturn cloud pattern appears to have six well defined sides of nearly equal length. Four Earths could fit inside the hexagon. Imaged from the side, the dark shadow of the Jovian planet is seen eclipsing part of its grand system of rings, partly visible on the upper right



That is amazing and very strange, I've always been very fascinated with the Universe and its contents as well. Before college I had a lot more time for self education in things I liked, used to rent a lot of astronomy books as well.
That is really peculiar though. Last I checked, I think Neptune too is governed by the same principles in physics, lol. With that said, maybe this hexagonal shape in the atmosphere on that planet could lead us to some new understanding about atmospheric behavior even here on Earth? I don't know...
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Quoting LargoFl:
Daytona 500 folks are concerned about the 2nd front coming this weekend about rain and wind..we'll see what happens


The words NASCAR and Inclement weather are practically on equal terms or so it seems sometimes. How do you say rain delay. Wind just makes it very
interesting.
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Quoting Minnemike:
the hexagonal formation on Saturn makes sense to me.. it's part of the cycle of fluid dynamics to form such features. granted, this is my intuitive layman's attempt to address the mystery ;)
i'm no scientician or mathematist...
Well, that relieves my mind. Here I thought we were missing some hexagonal fortress with little green men running around. The way you portray it makes sense to me.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

Paul Douglas did a great job with that segment. I've seen some of his other segments relating weather to climate and he typically does a good job finding a way to reduce the level of the science to that of the average viewer. The way he described the discrepancy between more snow in winter but less snow annually also seems to be consistent with the most-recent science I've read on the subject and posted about here on Dr. Masters' threads.
He gives me MN pride, you Betcha!! I've always enjoyed his ability to communicate complexity in terms of simplicity.
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Quoting Minnemike:
the hexagonal formation on Saturn makes sense to me.. it's part of the cycle of fluid dynamics to form such features.


Great graphic illustration Mike..
Thanks..
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the hexagonal formation on Saturn makes sense to me.. it's part of the cycle of fluid dynamics to form such features. granted, this is my intuitive layman's attempt to address the mystery ;)
i'm no scientician or mathematist...
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Quoting kwgirl:
During the migrations, the Audobon society asks volunteers to identify birds. My girlfriend and I attended the meeting and we both realized we would not be able to do it. Every different warbler has a name, but we call all of them Chippies. I have seen two varities of hummingbirds, the ruby thoat(once at a feeder) and some smaller, duller hummingbirds. I have seen the Cuban emerald but I do not believe these are the same. They are not as bright as the emerald, but the male is irridescent green. I even watch them perch for long times on branches and power lines, protecting the feeders.


I had a dominating male hummy last year for a time..
He would only let certain others to drink the koolaide mix I use..
I wouldn't be a good observer either as I get lost in just watching and when it came time to identify it I would not have the bird in front of me as a reference..
I just love watching.. :)
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Quoting Xandra:
More blizzards, less snow overall?



Paul Douglas did a great job with that segment. I've seen some of his other segments relating weather to climate and he typically does a good job finding a way to reduce the level of the science to that of the average viewer. The way he described the discrepancy between more snow in winter but less snow annually also seems to be consistent with the most-recent science I've read on the subject and posted about here on Dr. Masters' threads.
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Quoting barbamz:


Stunning! Thanks for posting, Pcola.


Isn't that soo cool barb..
I never knew that Saturn had that feature..
And to think it hasn't changed in 20yrs that we know of..
So much yet to discover..
We've just scratched the surface..
And by the way..
Good Morning / Afternoon to you.
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Quoting strongcoldfront:
The Arctic temperatures have been close to normal this winter, other than Svalbard. If this continues in the coming years, will Arctic sea ice recover?

Looks like you need to re-read post #603.

If the amount of heat energy in the earth's climate system were to suddenly return to levels seen in the mid 1900s (there are very few mechanisms by which this would occur), it would take many years for any type of a recovery simply due to the massive amounts of heat energy that must be transferred to/from the Arctic for melting/creating ice. It simply is not going to happen in a year, nor in a couple of years. And that is if global heat content were to magically reduce to levels seen decades ago, which is not likely to happen.
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Quoting pcola57:


Thats soo cool kw..
If i was a bird I would love to stop in at the Keys for sure..
Getting ready for the "hummy's"..
Going to clean out the feeders and get them all set to go..
Last year they were terrific..

During the migrations, the Audobon society asks volunteers to identify birds. My girlfriend and I attended the meeting and we both realized we would not be able to do it. Every different warbler has a name, but we call all of them Chippies. I have seen two varities of hummingbirds, the ruby thoat(once at a feeder) and some smaller, duller hummingbirds. I have seen the Cuban emerald but I do not believe these are the same. They are not as bright as the emerald, but the male is irridescent green. I even watch them perch for long times on branches and power lines, protecting the feeders.
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Quoting goosegirl1:


Of course we all have beliefs, but beliefs, truth, and facts are all different animals altogether.

Beliefs are what we feel to be true. Truth is always relative to a particular situation- for example, you may feel something is true, until evidence to the contrary is presented.

Facts are not relative and not bound by any belief. They simply are facts, not to be proven or disproven.

The scientific method is used to search for facts, not truths or beliefs. That's all I was trying to say.


Not to get metaphysical...or maybe so... The above (with citation by handle) is now on my office wall. I have long tried to teach that facts are not subject to a democratic vote. We Americans "think" we can vote on most things and choose most things. This is an American myth, but I'll admit, it does feel good and right. This may seem to be the truth, but of course is really not the fact.
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at #750. FLwolverine 01:49 PM CET am 20. Februar 2013

Thanks a lot! Very important to be aware of these differences.
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Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I just made an exciting discovery, for me anyway. I have spotted two Scissor-tailed flycatchers in the ficus tree where I work. They have been there for two days now. Since this is the Oklahoma state bird, I assume they are migrating north and have stopped by this resort for r&r. I have never seen them here before, not that I have been looking, but I was excited to see them and identify them. LOL, I guess this is the true sign of old age, excitement at spotting a bird I have never seen before. I have been enjoying the antics of the hummingbirds that have decided to stay around all winter, for the second year in a row. I guess they will be leaving soon. So people, despite the snow and cold up north, spring is right around the corner, per the birds. I hope they are right!


Thats soo cool kw..
If i was a bird I would love to stop in at the Keys for sure..
Getting ready for the "hummy's"..
Going to clean out the feeders and get them all set to go..
Last year they were terrific..

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Quoting pcola57:
NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day



Why would clouds form a hexagon on Saturn? Nobody is sure. Originally discovered during the Voyager flybys of Saturn in the 1980s, nobody has ever seen anything like it anywhere else in the Solar System. I


Stunning! Thanks for posting, Pcola.
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671 your link is broken...
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Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I just made an exciting discovery, for me anyway. I have spotted two Scissor-tailed flycatchers in the ficus tree where I work. They have been there for two days now. Since this is the Oklahoma state bird, I assume they are migrating north and have stopped by this resort for r&r. I have never seen them here before, not that I have been looking, but I was excited to see them and identify them. LOL, I guess this is the true sign of old age, excitement at spotting a bird I have never seen before. I have been enjoying the antics of the hummingbirds that have decided to stay around all winter, for the second year in a row. I guess they will be leaving soon. So people, despite the snow and cold up north, spring is right around the corner, per the birds. I hope they are right!
They sure are better mets than the pros that's for sure.lol.Natures first mets actually.
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"I watched as the beautiful full moon rose at Annapurna Base Camp, lighting up the entire landscape as if it were daylight. It provided the perfect lighting for this photo as I set up my tripod and shot one of the few majestic 8,000-meter peaks on this planet, surrounded by a starry night backdrop."
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Good morning all. I just made an exciting discovery, for me anyway. I have spotted two Scissor-tailed flycatchers in the ficus tree where I work. They have been there for two days now. Since this is the Oklahoma state bird, I assume they are migrating north and have stopped by this resort for r&r. I have never seen them here before, not that I have been looking, but I was excited to see them and identify them. LOL, I guess this is the true sign of old age, excitement at spotting a bird I have never seen before. I have been enjoying the antics of the hummingbirds that have decided to stay around all winter, for the second year in a row. I guess they will be leaving soon. So people, despite the snow and cold up north, spring is right around the corner, per the birds. I hope they are right!
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NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day



Explanation: Why would clouds form a hexagon on Saturn? Nobody is sure. Originally discovered during the Voyager flybys of Saturn in the 1980s, nobody has ever seen anything like it anywhere else in the Solar System. If Saturn's South Pole wasn't strange enough with its rotating vortex, Saturn's North Pole might be considered even stranger. The bizarre cloud pattern is shown above in great detail by a recent image taken by the Saturn-orbiting Cassini spacecraft. This and similar images show the stability of the hexagon even 20 years after Voyager. Movies of Saturn's North Pole show the cloud structure maintaining its hexagonal structure while rotating. Unlike individual clouds appearing like a hexagon on Earth, the Saturn cloud pattern appears to have six well defined sides of nearly equal length. Four Earths could fit inside the hexagon. Imaged from the side, the dark shadow of the Jovian planet is seen eclipsing part of its grand system of rings, partly visible on the upper right
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Nice morning for a stroll along the beach..
Clouds are starting to roll in..
Next 4 days have high chances for precip..



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More blizzards, less snow overall?


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This winter sure has been windier than average.Especially with all these days of gust above 30.Today is also added to the list.
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Quoting strongcoldfront:
The Arctic temperatures have been close to normal this winter, other than Svalbard. If this continues in the coming years, will Arctic sea ice recover?
Close to normal? Are you sure about that?

ice

No, Arctic sea ice will not recover; there's absolutely no extant or just-around-the-corner mechanism that could possibly make that happen. That doesn't mean some years won't see more ice than others, but those are just variations.
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Tropical Cyclone Haruna bottom of the image
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Quoting strongcoldfront:
The Arctic temperatures have been close to normal this winter, other than Svalbard. If this continues in the coming years, will Arctic sea ice recover?


We're at a point where it doesn't really matter what happens during the winter. It could be the coldest winter in a long time and still the arctic sea ice is always going to melt to around last year's minimum during the summer.
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Had a light frost last week, but even with that the grass continues to green around here. Looking like spring, Indian Hawthornes are budded and ready to bloom, hell some are even already out.

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The Arctic temperatures have been close to normal this winter, other than Svalbard. If this continues in the coming years, will Arctic sea ice recover?
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The blog is dead.
Anywho for now the local mets are saying that we could see a wintery mix Friday with it starting late morning or afternoon and the high is suppose to be 35.They may dismiss school early and workers may have the chance to leave early.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
Anybody ever notice that the ol' 4 panel is no longer available and hasn't been for a LONG time. Used to have the Jet stream, 850mb temps, convective outlook, Pressure, etc... used to use it to monitor arctic outbreaks. All in a 4 panel to view.


Yes i remember..
I liked that feature..
I'm with you in wondering why that was dropped..
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A snow band has developed right over my head and judging by the animation over the last hour, it has barely moved so it looks like several inches of snow for me today. Snow rates between 1/2 to 1 inch/hour.

Winds are also gusting up to 60km/h or around 40mph.
Temperature 25 F
Windchill 9 F

I'm located just to the east of the white dot titled 'Montreal' (about a dot's distance).

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Anybody ever notice that the ol' 4 panel is no longer available and hasn't been for a LONG time. Used to have the Jet stream, 850mb temps, convective outlook, Pressure, etc... used to use it to monitor arctic outbreaks. All in a 4 panel to view.
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Quoting AussieStorm:

really, I'm surprised classic didn't work. I am using classic and I have no problem at all as you can see.



I rarely use Classic..
Spoiled i guess..
I really appreciate the screen shot and info Aussie..
It just didn't work for me..
I dunno why.. :)
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Good luck with the blog problems. I'm going to bed. Goodnight all.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
I saved the day by typing nothing but a . and rolled us to the next page


Your a hero Rita..
If just for a day.. :)
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Quoting pcola57:


I know Aussie..
He's a good and prolific blogger..
Classic didn't help..
Nothing personal about Largo.. :)

really, I'm surprised classic didn't work. I am using classic and I have no problem at all as you can see.

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I saved the day by typing nothing but a . and rolled us to the next page
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Quoting AussieStorm:

You could of just used the classic version until it had cleared up. Largo posts good info.


I know Aussie..
He's a good and prolific blogger..
Classic didn't help..
Nothing personal about Largo.. :)
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Quoting pcola57:


Thaks Nea..
Ignore cleared it up..

You could of just used the classic version until it had cleared up. Largo posts good info.

Classic Version.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
One of LargoFL's wide text-only posts appears to be the offending one; you can either hide all those, are place him temporarily on ignore until they are scrolled off the page.


Thaks Nea..
Ignore cleared it up..

By the way how did you identify the post that was the culprit?
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Unfortunately you do need to put Largo on ignore for awhile until we get to another page.Will take you off Largo as soon as we reach the next page.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Good thing I can swim!:




And even past 7 days it's supposed to keep raining.


It looks like there will be little drought deficit in Georgia ,Come next week .. Got to feel for the folks in the Northern Gulf , They have hardly had a dry day since Isaac.
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