First EF-4 tornado of 2013 injures 82 near Hattiesburg, MS

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:10 AM GMT on February 12, 2013

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The strong tornado that swept through Hattiesburg and Oak Grove in Lamar County, Mississippi, on Sunday has been rated an EF-4 with 170 mph winds, making it the first violent EF-4 tornado of 2013. The tornado hit Hattiesburg at 5:12 pm CST February 10, injuring 82 people and causing widespread damage over a 20-mile-long path. Miraculously, there were no deaths.The only other violent EF-4 tornado ever to hit Lamar County occurred on April 24, 1908, according to NWS Jackson.


Figure 1. Oak Grove High School football field near Hattiesburg, MS after Sunday's tornado. Damage was rated EF-4 near the high school, and there was clear evidence of the tornado being multi-vortex over a portion of its path. Image credit: NWS Jackson Facebook page.

The 2013 tornado season is off to an unusually busy start--a pattern we also saw last year. The January 29 - 30, 2013 tornado outbreak now has 56 confirmed tornadoes, including the only EF-3 tornado of the year, which hit Adairsville, GA, on January 30, killing one person. The outbreak is now ranked as the second largest January tornado outbreak since records began in 1950 (the largest: 128 tornadoes on January 21 - 22, 1999 .) NOAA's Storm Prediction Center logged twelve preliminary reports of tornadoes on Sunday, from Mississippi and Alabama. This brings the tally of preliminary tornado reports for the year to 100. On average, we've had just 72 preliminary tornado reports by February 10 during the previous seven years, 2005 - 2011.


Video 1. Hotel worker Rynal Grant caught this impressive video of the February 10, 2013 Hattiesburg, Mississippi tornado.

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Hattiesburg, MS Tornado (apphotos)
This photo provided by Jordan Holliman shows a tornado moving through Hattiesburg, Miss., Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013. Major damage was reported in Hattiesburg and Petal, including on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. (AP Photo/Jordan Holliman)
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado (apphotos)
A business at 5133 Lincoln Road Extension in Hattiesburg, Miss., is damaged after an apparent tornado Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013. (AP Photo/Chuck Cook)
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado (apphotos)
A heavily damaged vehicle sits near the front of the University of Southern Mississippi on Hardy Street in Hattiesburg Miss., Feb 10, 2013 after a tornado passed through the city Sunday afternoon. (AP Photo/Hattiesburg American, Ryan Moore)
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado

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434. SteveDa1
8:25 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting MidMOwx:


Not to sound foolish as I don't know much about Artic sea ice but why the reduction in 2010-2012 compared to 2008/2009 if there should be an increased recovery each year?


I'm assuming it is because of the record-breaking (at the time) minimum extents in both 2007 and 2008.

You can make your own graph here.

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433. ScottLincoln
8:24 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
I wonder if Dr. Masters will do a blog entry on this?
Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded

Funny joke. An unfortunate joke that will be lost on some, particularly those that are ignorant on matters of how the climate system works. But humor aside, clearly we all know that when the area of open water increases in the summer/fall, the area that refreezes in the winter would be expected to increase.

You are looking at basically the seasonal inverse of the rapidly declining summer/fall ice extent, area, and volume, caused by the accumulating heat in the climate system. Another example of a physical system acting in a physical way according to the laws of physics.
Quoting MidMOwx:


Not to sound foolish as I don't know much about Artic sea ice but why the reduction in 2010-2012 compared to 2008/2009 if there should be an increased recovery each year?

Internal climate variability/noise. There is no expectation of an exact linear trend with each year being higher than the previous. This same fact causes much confusion among some individuals in regards to near surface tropospheric temperature measurements when they do not following an exact, perfect, and upward linear trend.
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432. Xulonn
8:20 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded

Classic AGW/CC denialist misquote. "Most ice" would imply volume, but the "evidence" is area - not the same thing.

I believe the linked-to blogger is probably purposefully misinforming people, and the WPBHurricane05 simply got sucked into repeating a falsehood because of a lack of knowledge.
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431. TropicalAnalystwx13
8:19 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting yonzabam:


I think pointing out that the people on here causing the arguments and wilfully twisting people's words in order to take unjustifiable offence, are immature schoolkids is perfectly reasonable.

Not really. People responsible for most arguments here are over 20. The misconception that kids are always behind it really bothers me.
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430. MidMOwx
8:17 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting SteveDa1:


Of course, you are joking, right?

Obviously, annual gain in arctic sea ice extent has been increasing and will continue to do so because the discrepancy between the minimum and maximum is getting larger and larger.

By looking at the total volume, you get a clearer picture which is much more representative of reality.



Not to sound foolish as I don't know much about Artic sea ice but why the reduction in 2010-2012 compared to 2008/2009 if there should be an increased recovery each year?
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429. JustPlantIt
8:17 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
I'm kinda glad that I WAS BANNED! My girls and friends. Perhaps they will be future weather geaks! It's all good.
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428. yonzabam
8:14 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
I wonder if Dr. Masters will do a blog entry on this?

Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded



Arctic Ocean sea ice area is currently the second lowest on record for this time of year.

Link
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427. Neapolitan
8:13 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
I wonder if Dr. Masters will do a blog entry on this?

Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded

Why would he? As SteveDa1 wrote, of course more ice will be gained as years go by; there's less of it every summer. Arguing otherwise is disingenuous at best, or just outright stupid. Then again, that graph is from "Steve Goddard", so it should be taken with a mountain-sized grain of salt.

(It should be noted that ice that's being added to area and extent measurements now is thin and brittle first-year ice that will quickly breakup and melt after the maximum is reached sometime in the next two to six weeks. Look for new record minimums across the board come September.)
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426. JustPlantIt
8:09 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Yup... Ban away. Some of us DO have agendas and we keep on plugging away. Swearing... get the net. My kids do... only words. IE... Have teenagers??? NOT SCIENCE! Sometimes words need to wake up people in a provocative way even to weather!
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425. ncstorm
8:08 PM GMT on February 12, 2013


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0157
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0157 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SRN LA...SRN MS...SRN AL...WRN FL PANHANDLE

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY

VALID 121957Z - 122100Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...95 PERCENT

SUMMARY...A THREAT FOR TORNADOES...DMGG WINDS...AND HAIL...IS
EXPECTED TO INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS THE CNTRL GULF COAST IN
ASSOCIATION WITH A WEAK SFC CYCLONE AND ATTENDANT WARM FRONT. A
TORNADO WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED.

DISCUSSION...VISIBLE SATELLITE AND LIGHTNING DATA SHOW CONVECTION
INCREASING INVOF A WEAK SFC LOW...WHICH WAS CENTERED JUST N OF BPT
AS OF 19Z. AN ATTENDANT WARM FRONT PARALLEL TO THE GULF COAST IS
SLOWLY LIFTING NWD ACROSS COASTAL SRN LA...WITH DEWPOINTS OF 65-70 F
SPREADING INLAND. THE 12Z LCH SOUNDING MODIFIED FOR REPRESENTATIVE
19Z SFC CONDITIONS SUGGESTS THAT DEVELOPING CONVECTION ALONG/S OF
THE WARM FRONT WILL LIKELY BE SFC-BASED...WITH SBCAPE VALUES
APPROACHING 1000 J/KG. MODEST HEIGHT FALLS OVERSPREADING THE AREA IN
RESPONSE TO AN UPPER TROUGH CENTERED OVER W TX...COMBINED WITH
FURTHER BOUNDARY LAYER HEATING AND CONVERGENCE ALONG A COLD FRONT
ATTENDANT TO THE SFC LOW...MAY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF TSTMS THIS
AFTERNOON THROUGH SRN LA.

ADDITIONAL SFC-BASED TSTMS MAY DEVELOP INVOF THE WARM FRONT INTO SRN
MS/AL AND EVENTUALLY THE WRN FL PANHANDLE WITHIN A WEAK WAA
REGIME...WHERE FAVORABLE HODOGRAPHS/LOW-LEVEL SHEAR PROFILES /PER
LCH/MOB VWP DATA/ ARE IN PLACE. DEEP-LAYER SHEAR PROFILES ARE
FAVORABLE FOR ISOLATED SUPERCELLS AND SMALL BOWING SEGMENTS...WITH
AN ENHANCED TORNADO THREAT ACCOMPANYING DISCRETE STORMS FORMING NEAR
THE WARM FRONT/SFC LOW. AN ADDITIONAL THREAT OF DMGG WINDS/HAIL MAY
ALSO ACCOMPANY THE STRONGER STORMS.

..ROGERS/MEAD.. 02/12/2013


ATTN...WFO...TAE...BMX...MOB...JAN...LIX...LCH...

LAT...LON 29089053 29229138 29589312 29709354 30099377 30409370
30579329 30709193 30899075 31208997 31398928 32028844
32128678 31898619 31598608 30918584 30518616 30288727
30278884 29858947 29279018 29089053
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424. trHUrrIXC5MMX
8:07 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
if it's not posted yet..

NESIS PLACES NEMO INTO CATEGORY 3 WITH A 4.35.

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423. SteveDa1
8:06 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
I wonder if Dr. Master's will do a blog entry on this?

Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded



Of course, you are joking, right?

Obviously, annual gain in arctic sea ice extent has been increasing and will continue to do so because the discrepancy between the minimum and maximum is getting larger and larger.

By looking at the total volume, you get a clearer picture which is much more representative of reality.

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422. WPBHurricane05
7:59 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
I wonder if Dr. Masters will do a blog entry on this?

Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded

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421. trHUrrIXC5MMX
7:56 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Major at Cuba and cat 2 before US landfall

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420. trHUrrIXC5MMX
7:52 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Allright... Im back how invigorating it's walk in NYC for hours... Loved it.

Sorry for my spelling errors before there. Im back home, just went page by page of MH. Sandy's report. Wow almost 160 pages long...
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419. Levi32
7:45 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
418. Based on his previous comments on the subject, I would guess Maue is being sarcastic.
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418. TomTaylor
7:40 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
I see Sandy is now officially extratropical at landfall. Only real case for subtropical classification would have been a shallow warm core, everything else pointed to a non tropical system. NHC addresses this, however, with the following



Quoting NHC:
While Sandy approached the coast of New Jersey, some fundamental changes occurred in the structure of the cyclone, resulting in its completion of post-tropical transition near 2100 UTC 29 October. Dropsondes during that day indicated that low-level temperatures within a few miles of the center of Sandy decreased significantly (Fig. 20), with surface temperatures dropping from 25%uFFFDC at 1400 UTC to 17%uFFFDC at 2100 UTC. This suggests that much cooler lowlevel air was penetrating the center of the cyclone, although it was still warmer than the air mass surrounding the cyclone. While an eye-like structure was still apparent on radar before 1800 UTC (Fig. 21a), aircraft data show that the center became embedded within the lower tropospheric temperature gradient before 2200 UTC (Fig. 21b), with the warmest air well to the northeast of the center. In addition, southeasterly shear increased markedly before landfall, and the organized deep convection near the center ceased around 2100 UTC, leaving an exposed center with any remaining convection near a warm front (Fig. 21b). This cessation of central convection coincided with the passage of the cyclone over much colder shelf waters just offshore of the mid-Atlantic coast.

The NHC surface analyses for 1500 UTC and 2100 UTC 29 October, based on the available imagery and data, are presented in Figs. 22 and 23. No fronts are analyzed close to the center of Sandy at 1500 UTC, with an occlusion forming to the north, and a stationary front on the western side of the circulation. A central dense overcast was still present at 1500 UTC, however this feature had dissipated 6 h later (Fig. 23). The 2100 UTC analysis shows an occluded front wrapping into the core of the cyclone, with the temperature gradient increasing along the now-moving warm front to the west. By that time, Sandy no longer met the definition of a tropical cyclone since it both lacked organized deep convection and had become a frontal cyclone. Consequently, the NHC best track denotes extratropical transition at 2100 UTC 29 October.



So no organized convection, shallow low level warm core was nearly nonexistant and displaced to the NE, and fronts were analyzed. End result = extratropical. Interesting gauging reactions on Twitter. Joe Bastardi unleashed a fury of about 15 tweets following the NHC's decision. Seems he is most concerned about the fact that his forecast was busted




Ryan Maue had this to say




Its hard to tell if Ryan is being serious or sarcastic here since Ryan is usually a very sarcastic and cynical guy.
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417. PedleyCA
7:39 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting Minnemike:
is anyone else here also a stickler for classic.wunderground, like I am?
if so, are you also having problems with the display of the WU Nexrad stations??
lately, the region shown at each station is significantly larger(signal return not expanded though), and it does not match up with the 'warnings/watches' county coloring(the correct area typically shown superimposed on the now expanded area). likewise, those shadings do not match the zoom level if changed. also experiencing animating issues related.
am i alone in this? i am firmly entrenched in classicWU, dangitall!!! don't want to budge unless this is ubiquitous with using a now defunct platform...




This is what I get when I load the radar and have to click "radar" from the selections just above to get it to go back to normal. Doesn't rain here enough to use it.
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416. StAugustineFL
7:34 PM GMT on February 12, 2013


SPC Excerpt: ...ERN GULF COAST/SRN GA REGION...
THIS OUTLOOK REPRESENTS EWD EXTENSION OF DAY-1 SVR POTENTIAL INTO
ROUGHLY FIRST 9 HOURS OF PERIOD...UNTIL TWO RELATED FACTORS COMBINE
TO REDUCE THREAT...
1. VEERING OF PREFRONTAL BOUNDARY-LAYER FLOW RELATED TO SHIFT OF
STRONGEST CYCLONICALLY ASSOCIATED ISALLOBARIC FORCING OFF CAROLINAS
AND FARTHER AWAY FROM THIS AREA. RESULT SHOULD BE REDUCTION WITH
TIME OF BOTH SHEAR AND FRONTAL CONVERGENCE IN LOW LEVELS.
2. DEPARTURE OF MID-UPPER WAVE...RELATED WEAKENING OF MID-UPPER
LEVEL LARGE-SCALE ASCENT OVER SERN CONUS...AND MOVEMENT OF SFC FRONT
AHEAD OF THAT WEAKENING ASCENT.

HOWEVER...BEFORE THOSE PROCESSES ARE COMPLETE...AND ESPECIALLY
BEFORE 21Z...SVR POTENTIAL WILL LINGER IN FORM OF DAMAGING GUSTS AND
CONDITIONAL TORNADO RISK. WHILE OPTIMAL/MARITIME-TROPICAL SFC AIR
WILL REMAIN OVER OPEN GULF...MID-60S F SFC DEW POINTS SHOULD OCCUR
INLAND FROM SERN AL EWD ACROSS SRN GA AND SWD TO NRN FL AND
CENTRAL-ERN PANHANDLE. THIS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO YIELD SFC-BASED
EFFECTIVE INFLOW PARCELS IN MODIFIED FCST SOUNDINGS. DEEP-LAYER
SHEAR WILL SUPPORT SVR POTENTIAL. INTENSE MIDLEVEL WINDS SHOULD
OFFSET VEERING SFC FLOW TO MAINTAIN 55-65 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR
MAGNITUDES. MEANWHILE COMBINATION OF DIABATIC SFC HEATING -- MUTED
BY CLOUD COVER -- AND BOUNDARY-LAYER THETAE ADVECTION SHOULD
COUNTERBALANCE WEAK MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES ENOUGH FOR 500-800 J/KG
MLCAPE. GIVEN GEOMETRY OF LOW-MIDDLE LEVEL WINDS WITH RESPECT TO
BOUNDARY...DOMINANT MODE SHOULD BE QUASI-LINEAR...BUT A FEW
SUPERCELLS ARE POSSIBLE. COVERAGE WILL BE MODULATED SOMEWHAT BY
AFOREMENTIONED WEAKENING LIFT AND BY STABLE LAYER AROUND 700 MB
EVIDENT IN FCST SOUNDINGS.




Local NWS graphic/discussion.



...Locally heavy rainfall over southeast Georgia... ...Strong to Severe storms possible... A cold front will approach the area on Wednesday bringing widespread showers and thunderstorms. Some storms may become strong to severe with strong winds and isolated tornadoes possible. Rainfall amounts over southeast Georgia today through Wednesday will be 1-2 inches with locally higher amounts possible. High temperatures will be in the 70's on Wednesday along with breezy conditions.
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415. CaicosRetiredSailor
7:30 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting DavidHOUTX:
Caicos,

that is one giant dogfish in your avatar.


Yep, I got him with a Hawaiian sling (in 1980) and even with the wetsuit jacket, he beat me up a bit as I swam to the surface. It was delicious.
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414. DavidHOUTX
7:24 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Caicos,

that is one giant dogfish in your avatar.
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413. JNCali
7:23 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Obama Administration Releases First-Ever Climate Adaptation Plans

With plans that incorporate efforts made by the Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, Transportation and Defense departments, among others, the administration's effort acknowledges that climate impacts are happening now and require action.




http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id= obama-administration-releases-first-ever-climate-a daptation-plan

If the admin was serious about climate change they would have already cut back on their extensive air travel... IMHO encouraging folks to commute on bicycles cities to plan more green belts and the military to cut back on Humvees is not even patronizing.. We gotta do better people...
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412. CaicosRetiredSailor
7:16 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Obama Administration Releases First-Ever Climate Adaptation Plans

With plans that incorporate efforts made by the Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, Transportation and Defense departments, among others, the administration's effort acknowledges that climate impacts are happening now and require action.
...
"It's an expression of the realization that the impacts of climate change aren't something that are going to happen way, way in the future," said Joe Casola, staff scientist and program director of science and impacts at the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions. "They're happening now, and in some ways, agencies' missions are put at risk by the threats of climate change, and they need to take action and mainstream considerations of climate into a lot of their decisionmaking."

...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id= obama-administration-releases-first-ever-climate-a daptation-plan

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411. Minnemike
7:14 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
is anyone else here also a stickler for classic.wunderground, like I am?
if so, are you also having problems with the display of the WU Nexrad stations??
lately, the region shown at each station is significantly larger(signal return not expanded though), and it does not match up with the 'warnings/watches' county coloring(the correct area typically shown superimposed on the now expanded area). likewise, those shadings do not match the zoom level if changed. also experiencing animating issues related.
am i alone in this? i am firmly entrenched in classicWU, dangitall!!! don't want to budge unless this is ubiquitous with using a now defunct platform...
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410. ncstorm
7:12 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
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409. ILwthrfan
7:01 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting JNCali:
It almost never fails that when I see people cleaning their yards and planting flowers that snow is on the way.. or at least a good freeze.. must be the exec's at Home Depot praying that everyone will need to replace the flowers they just planted...


Wasn't a week ago we had overnight lows in the 50's here. It was ridiculous. This was the last week of January and first part of February we had back to back nights of over night lows +50 F.



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408. ncstorm
7:00 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Severe Thunderstorm Warning

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
1248 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2013

MSC121-121915-
/O.CON.KJAN.SV.W.0080.000000T0000Z-130212T1915Z/
RANKIN MS-
1248 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2013

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 115 PM CST
FOR CENTRAL RANKIN COUNTY...

AT 1247 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS WERE
TRACKING A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE
HAIL. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR BRANDON MOVING EAST NORTHEAST AT
55 MPH.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL BE NEAR...
LEESBURG BY 100 PM CST...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

STAY INDOORS AND AWAY FROM WINDOWS UNTIL THE STORM HAS PASSED.

&&

LAT...LON 3224 9000 3238 9004 3251 8977 3239 8974
3231 8973
TIME...MOT...LOC 1847Z 248DEG 50KT 3233 8990

$$
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407. JNCali
6:53 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting ILwthrfan:


This was out of the NWS Quad Cities Discussion last night.

ECMWF/GFS REMARKABLY SIMILAR IN BRINGING A SIGNIFICANT SNOW STORM TO
MUCH OF THE MIDWEST INCLUDING THE ENTIRE DVN CWA ABOUT
THURSDAY/FRIDAY FEBRUARY 21/22. THIS LOCKED AND ACTIVE PATTERN
SUGGESTS THE POTENTIAL FOR MIDWEST SNOWSTORMS ARRIVING ABOUT EVERY 3
DAYS GOING THROUGH THE LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY. STAY TUNED.


So it makes perfect since to have no snow all winter and then get it all in the last weeks of February. lol I just want it to snow!
It almost never fails that when I see people cleaning their yards and planting flowers that snow is on the way.. or at least a good freeze.. must be the exec's at Home Depot praying that everyone will need to replace the flowers they just planted...
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406. washingtonian115
6:53 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting SuzK:


You lost them at metaphor
Stop being a smart..never mind I think I cursed enough people out for one day..
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405. yonzabam
6:52 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


stop taking unnecessary potshots at people.


I think pointing out that the people on here causing the arguments and wilfully twisting people's words in order to take unjustifiable offence, are immature schoolkids is perfectly reasonable.
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404. ILwthrfan
6:48 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting ncstorm:
crazy winter blast at the end of GFS







This was out of the NWS Quad Cities Discussion last night.

ECMWF/GFS REMARKABLY SIMILAR IN BRINGING A SIGNIFICANT SNOW STORM TO
MUCH OF THE MIDWEST INCLUDING THE ENTIRE DVN CWA ABOUT
THURSDAY/FRIDAY FEBRUARY 21/22. THIS LOCKED AND ACTIVE PATTERN
SUGGESTS THE POTENTIAL FOR MIDWEST SNOWSTORMS ARRIVING ABOUT EVERY 3
DAYS GOING THROUGH THE LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY. STAY TUNED.


So it makes perfect since to have no snow all winter and then get it all in the last weeks of February. lol I just want it to snow!
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403. GeorgiaStormz
6:47 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting SuzK:


You lost them at metaphor


stop taking unnecessary potshots at people.
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402. FunnelVortex
6:44 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting aspectre:
352 wutheringheights: She was telling the truth and I see she got banned for it.

meh... I got temp-banned for pointing out that a comment resembled dissing-via-innuendo on the JuniorHighSchool gossip-circuit, with nothing else added.
The difference is that nobody tried to don me in martyr's robes, or even noticed.

WU's website, WU's rules, WU's judgement on whether a trespass had occurred:
Ya choose to learn the boundaries of what is acceptable from what occurred...
...or ya don't, then get banned again (and again) for repeating the same type of behaviour.


They ban people for the stupidest reasons here.
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401. SuzK
6:43 PM GMT on February 12, 2013
Quoting schwankmoe:
it amazes me that there are people who never heard the metaphor of putting a bag over your head as a way to ignore reality.

guy 1: go ahead and bury your head in the sand if you want
guy 2: ARE YOU THREATENING ME??
guy 1: no, jesus, it's a metaphor. take a pill
guy 2: NOW YOU WANT ME TO OVERDOSE TO DEATH??



You lost them at metaphor
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Quoting ChillinInTheKeys:


I got bumped for 24 hours by posting a picture of Jim Henson with his puppets while the doctors blog topic discussed James Hensen. I guess he's not a big Muppet fan.


Quite right, too. They should never have let him loose on Star Wars. I was traumatised by the Ewoks, and don't even mention Jabba the Hut.
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Quoting aspectre:
352 wutheringheights: She was telling the truth and I see she got banned for it.

meh... I got temp-banned for pointing out that a comment resembled dissing-via-innuendo on the JuniorHighSchool gossip-circuit, with nothing else added.
The difference is that nobody tried to don me in martyr's robes, or even noticed.

WU's website, WU's rules, WU's judgement on whether a trespass had occurred:
Ya choose to learn the boundaries of what is acceptable from what occurred...
...or ya don't, then get banned again (and again) for repeating the same type of behaviour.


I got bumped for 24 hours by posting a picture of Jim Henson with his puppets while the doctors blog topic discussed James Hensen. I guess he's not a big Muppet fan.
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Quoting ncstorm:
crazy winter blast at the end of GFS







Not too crazy...
Member Since: October 20, 2012 Posts: 7 Comments: 2873
crazy winter blast at the end of GFS





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Quoting hydrus:
That area gets high winds quite often, and sometimes can be violent. Here is a cool link..Link


I see.
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Looks good:


resembles one of those events where heavy rains limit CAPE but 1 or 2 supercells embedded near the front of the rain gets loose.

But in this case, i dont see much happening.
but still:



this will need watching, but don't count on much.
Member Since: February 11, 2012 Posts: 0 Comments: 9720
I think everyone should lay off Wash..she apologized..its between her and Keep..

go nitpick about something else..

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Quoting washingtonian115:
Calm down KOTG.I will give you my apology about thinking you were meaning to suggest someone kill themselves. I'm sorry.
Hey Wash, in my experience, this statement, without the "calm down" would go a long way toward actually calming the situation down.. imo.. here's to hoping you get some accumulation this month!
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Quoting FunnelVortex:
The GFS is predicting an interesting burst of wind off of Mexico.

That area gets high winds quite often, and sometimes can be violent. Here is a cool link..Link
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352 wutheringheights: She was telling the truth and I see she got banned for it.

meh... I got temp-banned for pointing out that a comment resembled dissing-via-innuendo on the JuniorHighSchool gossip-circuit, with nothing else added.
The difference is that nobody tried to don me in martyr's robes, or even noticed.

WU's website, WU's rules, WU's judgement on whether a trespass had occurred:
Ya choose to learn the boundaries of what is acceptable from what occurred...
...or ya don't, then get banned again (and again) for repeating the same type of behaviour.
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RyanMaueRyan Maue 22 m


Looking at 20-perturbed NCEP GEFS ensembles at +6 days, easy to see the big extratropical cyclone in every one. Link
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Quoting EricSpittle:
Bummer, thanks for the response though.

Whoah, maybe WU has them?

http://wxug.us/11eeq

Is that what I'm looking for?
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Ryan Maue‏@RyanMaue

GFS 12z keeps deepening the upcoming N. Atlantic warm-seclusion extratropical cyclone. Now expecting 932 mb Link
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The GFS is predicting an interesting burst of wind off of Mexico.

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Quoting ncstorm:


I have asked people here where I can find the snow map for the Euro..I think you have to pay for it or wait till someone who does pay for it post it on the internet
Bummer, thanks for the response though.
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