A record 199 days without a tornado death; 1st tornado of 2013 hits Louisiana

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:10 PM GMT on January 10, 2013

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The U.S. has set a weather record of the sort we like to see: the longest continuous stretch without a tornado death. We've had 199 days without a tornado fatality, beating the record of 197 straight days that ended on February 28, 1987. The last U.S. tornado death was at Venus in Highlands County, Florida, from an EF-0 tornado associated with Tropical Storm Debby on June 24, 2012. After a horrific 2011 that saw 553 Americans die in tornadoes--the 2nd highest total since 1950--the 2012 tornado season was not far from average for deaths, according to NOAA's Storm Prediction Center. The 2012 tornado death toll was 68, ranking 25th highest since 1950. The average yearly toll between 1950 - 2011 was 91. According to SPC, the total number of tornadoes during 2012 was just 936. This is the first time since 2002 that fewer than 1000 tornadoes have been recorded. The reason for the low tornado total in 2012 was the massive drought that gripped much of Tornado Alley. It's tough to get tornadoes when you're experiencing near-record drought conditions and very few thunderstorms.


Figure 1. June 24, 2012: A tornado spawned by Tropical Storm Debbie crosses Lake Winterset in Winter Haven, Florida. Another tornado from Debbie on this day caused the last tornado death in the U.S., at Venus in Highlands County, Florida. Image credit: wunderphotographer whgator3.


Figure 2. The total number of U.S. tornadoes stronger than EF-0 from 1950 - 2012 does not show a significant long-term trend. However, this database is not very reliable, and we cannot use it to make judgements about how tornadoes may be changing in the long term. Data taken from NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC). Since not all tornadoes from 2012 have been given an EF scale rating yet, the numbers from 2012 are estimated by assuming that the same proportion of EF-0 tornadoes that existed in 2011 also occurred in 2012.

First U.S. tornado of 2013 hits Louisiana
A powerful low pressure system centered over Texas that has dumped over 5" of rain over Southeast Texas and 10" over portions of Louisiana has generated the first U.S. tornado of 2013. The tornado touched down in Plaquemine, Louisiana at 8:35 am CST this morning, when a squall line of severe thunderstorms moved through. Light to moderate roof damage was reported at an industrial plant on Highway 405, about 80 miles west-northwest of New Orleans. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has portions of Southeast Louisiana, Southern Mississippi, and Southern Alabama in their "Slight Risk" region for severe weather and tornadoes, so hopefully our record streak without a tornado death will not come to an end today.


Figure 3. Radar-estimated precipitation from the past three days from the Lake Charles radar. Over 10" of rain (dark pink colors) is estimated to have fallen over South Central Louisiana.

Earth's extreme weather: no big deal, compared to Venus
Our colleagues at TWC are airing a new series that starts tonight (Thursday) at 9pm EST/8pm CST, called "Deadliest Space Weather." We've put the trailer for tonight's episode on Venus up on the wunderground video section. As I highlighted in my book review of Dr. James Hansen's must-read book, Storms of My Grandchildren, Dr. Hansen argues that Earth's climate may eventually wind up like Venus', with a run-away greenhouse effect: "After the ice is gone, would Earth proceed to the Venus syndrome, a runaway greenhouse effect that would destroy all life on the planet, perhaps permanently? While that is difficult to say based on present information, I've come to conclude that if we burn all reserves of oil, gas, and coal, there is a substantial chance we will initiate the runaway greenhouse. If we also burn the tar sands and tar shale, I believe the Venus syndrome is a dead certainty." In tonight's episode of "Deadliest Space Weather", astronomers and planetary scientists will reveal why the climate of Venus went so horribly wrong, why a similar climate may one day descend on the Earth--and what will happen when it gets here.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting ColdInFL:
It's there for everyone to see, you just need to be open to both sides of the research.

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Using that article to make that point is a little... off base. Combine the quote "It means after a baking hot September, we could be in for a repeat of last year's big freeze." and the publication date (October, 2011) and you'll see the forecast didn't quite verify. The UK didn't have the crazy anomalous warm winter the US did in 2011/12, but it was significantly warmer than average.

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115. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
SUBJECT: Tropical Depression In Sea East of Mindanao

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression (1002 hPa) located at 5.6N 129.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. This depression is reported as moving north slowly.
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With regards to Venus as an endstate for the Earth's evolution - that's almost a certainty. That said, I strongly doubt anthropogenic climate change will push us that far - rather, we'll go down that route in several hundred million years time (possibly a billion), as a result of the Sun gradually becoming more and more luminous.

At some point, the average surface temperature of the Earth will get sufficiently high for the oceans and surface water to become unsustainable. I can't remember when that happens, off the top of my head, but I think it is predicted to occur at around 50 degrees centigrade (as a mean temperature for the planet). At that point, the oceans evaporate, and you gradually shed more and more of the Earth's water to space, as the atmospheric water is slowly dissociated by high energy Solar radiation and the hydrogen escapes.

The water in our atmosphere currently is almost entirely protected from that by the temperature inversion at the top of the troposphere, which keeps almost all the water trapped in the lowest level of the atmosphere, where it is relatively safe from the nasty high energy stuff. Put enough water in the atmosphere, though, and it'll start to bleed through the inversion (or the inversion will collapse).

Once the Earth is dry, plate tectonics will cease (since the Earth is of too low a mass to sustain wide-scale plate tectonics without the lubricating effect of water) - which will, in turn, stop the sequestration of carbon back into the mantle from the surface. Without that, the eruption of gasses from vulcanism will gradually add both a significant amount of greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere, and build the atmospheric pressure - leading to a Venutian-style runaway greenhouse...

I'm unashamedly one of those convinced that man is deleteriously affecting the Earth's climate - but as a Solar system astronomer, I can't see any way that man-made climate change could push the average temperature of the planet up by more than 30 degrees. At the very least, I figure that we'll either have figured out a way to curtail our emissions well before that point, or the hideously changed climate will have stopped us in its own way :)
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Quoting nymore:
I could get struck by lightning twice today live through it then get hit by a meteor in the head and on my way to the hospital found out I won the lottery only to die from falling out of the ambulance while making the corner to finally get to the hospital.

After all it is possible.

FWIW it will happen one day when the sun becomes a red giant in what 5 billion years.

Edit: Quantum Physics says it is possible for me to walk through a wall.


Quantum Physics suggests that it is possible to be in more than one place at the same time. There are days that this would certainly come in handy. ... Except I do not trust my other selves to conduct daily business for me. ... That has gotten me in trouble before. :-)
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112. N3EG
This is both pathetic and funny...Winter Storm Gandolf. When it went over us in Washington State it was just another Pacific no-name, AS ALWAYS.

Wake me up when they name these things at 160W in the ocean...
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Quoting VR46L:
Umm , The GFS 12Z Atlantic run is rather hilarious at the moment....

Drama a system coming off the North Coast of the US turns into a Sub/tropical System ...LOL

GFS 12Z From Raleigh

Its really weird to happen but not unprecedented I think there has been 3 or 4 storms that has form in june in the records and even 1 reach hurricane status.
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ECMWF showing a healthy Andrea in the middle of next week.



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Quoting ChillinInTheKeys:
lots of interesting stuff out there today...

"Amazing Image: Eerie Nightglow Over Texas."

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"The Suomi NPP satellite caught a massive thunderstorm making waves in the nightglow above Texas and Oklahoma on April 15, 2012. While nightglow is a well-known phenomenon, scientists were surprised at Suomi NPP's ability to detect it, according to NASA's Earth Observatory. During the satellite's check-out procedures, scientists thought this light source was a problem with the sensor until they realized that they were seeing the faintest light in the darkness of night, the Earth Observatory reported."

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lots of interesting stuff out there today...

"Amazing Image: Eerie Nightglow Over Texas."

Link

"The Suomi NPP satellite caught a massive thunderstorm making waves in the nightglow above Texas and Oklahoma on April 15, 2012. While nightglow is a well-known phenomenon, scientists were surprised at Suomi NPP's ability to detect it, according to NASA's Earth Observatory. During the satellite's check-out procedures, scientists thought this light source was a problem with the sensor until they realized that they were seeing the faintest light in the darkness of night, the Earth Observatory reported."
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Quoting FunnelVortex:


Does this mean a cooling trend?

There's a lot of debate as to the effects of sunspots and solar flares on the climate. Some suggest increased solar activity of the past century is largely responsible for observed warming trends, though this is a generally rejected idea by scientists. Some also suggest that we may start to go through a cooling trend in the near future as it appears the solar activity of the last century that I mentioned is subsiding and we may be about to go into a long, deep minimum of few sunspots and solar flares, which some say would induce global cooling. Again though, that idea is generally rejected, as there is very little evidence to suggest sunspot cycles have a major effect on Earth's climate.
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Quoting FunnelVortex:


Does this mean a cooling trend?
Not necessarily. A single sunspot doesn't mean much, but solar activity definitely does cycle over the years.

The image below, however, certainly supports a cooling trend.

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Quoting TomTaylor:
From Levi's Twitter



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I can't wait, hopefully that won't be blocked by my school like all the other model pages...
I am going home from school, be back in a bit.
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From Levi's Twitter

Quoting Levi32:
Amazing what finding that flush command did for me. Should be able to go live later today with a beta product page.


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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Good afternoon, and thanks for the blog Dr. Masters, looks like a quiet severe weather period shaping up for a while, as would be expected in January.

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but there's a huge sunspot, numbered 1654, transiting the Earth-facing side of the Sun right now. It produced a near M class flare earlier today and seems to be getting more active and complex as it rotates closer to direct Earth view:



Does this mean a cooling trend?
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Quoting ncstorm:
off topic

Shooting reported at high school in Taft, Calif.



Oh boy...here we go again...

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Good afternoon, and thanks for the blog Dr. Masters, looks like a quiet severe weather period shaping up for a while, as would be expected in January.

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but there's a huge sunspot, numbered 1654, transiting the Earth-facing side of the Sun right now. It produced a near M class flare earlier today and seems to be getting more active and complex as it rotates closer to direct Earth view:

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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Not again! I do not have the answer for this, but we had better find one soon.
...just another indicator that the apes are soon to rise!
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Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #10
SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE NARELLE, CATEGORY FOUR (05U)
3:01 AM WST January 11 2012
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At 2:00 AM WST, Severe Tropical Cyclone Narelle (947 hPa) located at 16.8S 114.3E or 570 km north of Exmouth and 515 km north northwest of Karratha has 10 minute sustained winds of 90 knots with gusts of 125 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southwest at 9 knots.

Hurricane Force Winds
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30 NM from the center

Storm Force Winds
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60 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
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180 NM from the center in northeast quadrant
180 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
150 NM from the center in southwest quadrant
150 NM from the center in northwest quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T5.5/5.5/D1.0/24 HRS

Severe Tropical Cyclone Narelle is expected to continue moving to the south southwest towards Northwest Cape.

Gales with gusts to 100 kilometers per hour are expected to develop in coastal areas between Whim Creek and Exmouth during Friday afternoon, then extend south to Coral Bay Saturday morning.

Winds are likely to increase further during Saturday about the west Pilbara coast, possibly becoming destructive with wind gusts over 130 kilometers per hour overnight Saturday. Very destructive winds with gusts to 250 kilometers per hour are possible near the cyclone center.

Gales may extend south to Cape Cuvier during Sunday.

Thunderstorm activity will increase about the Pilbara coast on Friday with isolated heavy rainfall and squalls possible. This activity will extend into the western and southern Gascoyne over the weekend. Heavy falls are likely near the west Pilbara coast and adjacent Gascoyne on Saturday and Sunday.

Tides along the west Pilbara coast are likely to rise above the normal high tide mark on Friday night and Saturday with flooding of low lying coastal areas. A very dangerous storm tide is possible Saturday night if the center of the cyclone passes close to the coast.

Tropical Cyclone Warning
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A Cyclone WARNING continues for coastal areas from Whim Creek to Coral Bay, including Karratha, Dampier, Onslow and Exmouth

Tropical Cyclone Watch
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A Cyclone WATCH continues for coastal areas from Coral Bay to Cape Cuvier

Forecast and Intensity
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12 HRS: 18.0S 113.4E - 95 knots (CAT 4/Severe Tropical Cyclone)
24 HRS: 19.0S 113.0E - 95 knots (CAT 4/Severe Tropical Cyclone)
48 HRS: 21.2S 112.0E - 95 knots (CAT 4/Severe Tropical Cyclone)
72 HRS: 25.4S 111.1E - 60 knots (CAT 2/Tropical Cyclone)

Additional Information
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The system has continued to intensify. Position is based on satellite imagery and is consistent with microwave image from 1307Z, which shows indications of an eye. Dvorak embedded center pattern, MET and pattern give a CI of 5.5. At 1200Z SATCON has 96 knots, based on ADT 71 knots, and CIMSS AMSU 107 knots. Intensity currently stands at 90 knots.

Motion has been southwest at around 9 knots, but is forecast to slow a little over the next 6 to 12 hours. There is some confidence in forecasting a continued SSW track taking the system west of Exmouth. However a severe coastal impact in the west Pilbara is still a possibility.

North to northeasterly shear of about 10 knots is expected to continue. Given that the system is moving south southwesterly at around 9 knots, the storm relative shear is low.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
What Skeptical Science said is that a runaway greenhouse event is what got Venus into trouble, though such an event on Earth is unlikely for many years. Dr. Hansen said such an event could happen "eventually", and Dr. Masters clearly wrote that the TWC program says such an event "may one day descend on the Earth".

Apples and oranges? Off base?

Hardly.
I could get struck by lightning twice today live through it then get hit by a meteor in the head and on my way to the hospital found out I won the lottery only to die from falling out of the ambulance while making the corner to finally get to the hospital.

After all it is possible.

FWIW it will happen one day when the sun becomes a red giant in what 5 billion years.

Edit: Quantum Physics says it is possible for me to walk through a wall.
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Thanks Dr. Masters, hopefully we can have another year without a lot of tornadoes deaths.
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Quoting nymore:
Comparing Apples and Oranges. Even Skeptical Science says Hanson is off base. I wish Jeff would at least do a little research before posting such nonsense from Hanson.
What Skeptical Science said is that a runaway greenhouse event is what got Venus into trouble, though such an event on Earth is unlikely for many years. Dr. Hansen said such an event could happen "eventually", and Dr. Masters clearly wrote that the TWC program says such an event "may one day descend on the Earth".

Apples and oranges? Off base?

Hardly.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Hey! Don't you have a slab to pour or something? LOL

Yes, you are correct. Darn it!

Supernova or Red Giant = We are toast. Our climate is permanently altered.
going on as we speak have a few minutes to waste as it sets. Not that long though went maybe a little high with the accelerator and water reducer.
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Quoting JerseyCapewxguy:



resemblance?....yeah...looks similar to Sandy's track.


true...


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Quoting nymore:
No supernova not enough mass just red giant then white dwarf


Hey! Don't you have a slab to pour or something? LOL

Yes, you are correct. Darn it!

Supernova or Red Giant = We are toast. Our climate is permanently altered.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That's funny. But Martin doesn't need to build a big ray gun to destroy Earth-bound civilization; the fossil fuel industry--and the politicians and corporations beholden to it--are intent on doing it all by themselves...
It'll just speed up the process ;-).Earth and it's people won't have to worry about GW no more.lol.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:



resemblance?....yeah...looks similar to Sandy's track.
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Quoting ncstorm:


I wonder who Marvin argues with on Venus about climate change...dont worry earthlings, you wont be arguing about Earth atmosphere too long because he is building a huge ray gun to blow up earth..
That's funny. But Martin doesn't need to build a big ray gun to destroy Earth-bound civilization; the fossil fuel industry--and the politicians and corporations beholden to it--are intent on doing it all by themselves...
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Venus' atmospheric pressure isn't so high despite such a massive concentration of CO2, but because of it. Were Venus' atmosphere made up primarily of far lighter nitrogen as is Earth's, it's pressure wouldn't, of course, be so high.Incorrect. Yes, Venus is closer to the sun and thus receives roughly 93% more solar energy than does Earth. However, Venus' albedo is around 70%, more than double Earth's roughly 30%. That means more than 2/3 of the solar radiation striking Venus is reflected back to space--more than negating the warming advantage Venus gains by being closer to the sun. IOW, based on the distance from the Sun and the albedo of both planets, Venus should be colder than Earth because it actually absorbs a lot less solar radiation. Since that's clearly not the case, proximity is clearly not a factor.No, not a "distant third", but first place. Period. There are massive stores of carbon locked up in Earth's rocks, as there were at one time on Venus. Should we humans and/or some cataclysmic event occur to nudge warming past a certain point, there's absolutely nothing that would prevent our rocks from surrendering their carbon to the atmosphere in a runaway event similar to what is theorized to have happened on Venus.If you ask me, this Venus %u2260 Earth argument is so easy to tear apart, I think it's embarassing to the climate change denialist cause for those who continue to repeat it. ;-)True. But then again, previous warming events didn't have humans helping out by pumping 3.4 million metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each and every hour of each and every day...
Comparing Apples and Oranges. Even Skeptical Science says Hanson is off base. I wish Jeff would at least do a little research before posting such nonsense from Hanson.
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Quoting TomballTXPride:
CO2 outputs by humans are dwarfed by supervolcanoes.


Very little CO2 is outgassed by volcanoes. The main effect of volcanic eruptions on climate is a cooling effect, due to ejection of SO2 into the stratosphere.

In the troposphere, SO2 is rained out in a matter of days, but in the stratosphere it can persist for two years and reflects back solar radiation, cooling the surface.
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Snow in Jerusalem:

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Quoting TomballTXPride:


Haha. My bad, Liz!

Yeah, that's exactly my thinking, too. You would have to think the same heavy rain rates falling over Louisiana are occurring over the GOM, if not even heavier.

Man, I couldn't even imagine the attention that thing would be getting in August of September!!

LOL


Yep . Actually think its slightly heavier in the Gulf ...

Yep Its would be garnering alot of attention thats for sure.



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Quoting TomballTXPride:
CO2 outputs by humans are dwarfed by supervolcanoes.


Anthropogenic CO2 output:   35   Gt/year
All the world's volcanoes:     0.2 - 0.3    Gt/year


Gt = gigaton = 1 billion metric tons

Oh, and here's my source. NASA

So what is the source for your comment? And what exactly are you trying to imply? I am genuinely curious.
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11:11PST now 55.6 Forecast 57 Yesterday 49.1/70.7 Normal is 43/67
Almost afternoon here. Rained .01 earlier so YTD is 1.17"
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nymore, I realize you get freezing rain, but isn't it uncommon in mid Jan.? Though expect it's getting more common. We used to expect thaws in early Feb here, hardly freeze at all anymore.
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Quoting TomballTXPride:


Is there much heavy rain under that part of the blog over the Gulf of Mexico?


Blog or blob? ;)Fooling with ya Ainslie!!!

It looks to have very deep Convection I would imagine the same level of rain that has already fallen no sign of dissipation , But I aint a met :p
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Security camera captures tornado touchdown in Plaquemine

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Quoting CybrTeddy:


00z ECMWF supports this solution. Shows a Subtropical Storm 'Andrea' at 96 hours.


We'll have to watch it assuming the models remain consistent.


YEAHHH THIS IS 2013 HURRICANE SEASON.... A VERY EARLYYYYYYYY START LOL :))))
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Venus' atmospheric pressure isn't so high despite such a massive concentration of CO2, but because of it. Were Venus' atmosphere made up primarily of far lighter nitrogen as is Earth's, it's pressure wouldn't, of course, be so high.Incorrect. Yes, Venus is closer to the sun and thus receives roughly 93% more solar energy than does Earth. However, Venus' albedo is around 70%, more than double Earth's roughly 30%. That means more than 2/3 of the solar radiation striking Venus is reflected back to space--more than negating the warming advantage Venus gains by being closer to the sun. IOW, based on the distance from the Sun and the albedo of both planets, Venus should be colder than Earth because it actually absorbs a lot less solar radiation. Since that's clearly not the case, proximity is clearly not a factor.No, not a "distant third", but first place. Period. There are massive stores of carbon

locked up in Earth's rocks, as there were at one time on Venus. Should we humans and/or some cataclysmic event occur to nudge warming past a certain point, there's absolutely nothing that would prevent our rocks from surrendering their carbon to the atmosphere in a runaway event similar to what is theorized to have happened on Venus.If you ask me, this Venus ≠ Earth argument is so easy to tear apart, I think it's embarassing to the climate change denialist cause for those who continue to repeat it. ;-)True. But then again, previous warming events didn't have humans helping out by pumping 3.4 million metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each and every hour of each and every day...


I wonder who Marvin argues with on Venus about climate change...dont worry earthlings, you wont be arguing about Earth atmosphere too long because he is building a huge ray gun to blow up earth..





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Quoting trumpman84:
The comparison of Venus to Earth is tired and plain fear mongering regardless of your stance on human induced climate change.

Please consider -- the atmospheric pressure on Venus is 92 times that of Earth. You know those high pressure systems we see on Earth that can raise temperatures in an area on Earth 5-20 degrees with a mear 1-3% increase in atmospheric pressure? Imagine a high pressure system that raised atmospheric pressure by 9200%!
Venus' atmospheric pressure isn't so high despite such a massive concentration of CO2, but because of it. Were Venus' atmosphere made up primarily of far lighter nitrogen as is Earth's, it's pressure wouldn't, of course, be so high.
Quoting trumpman84:
This, along with the much higher solar irradiance received due to its close proximity to the sun, are the two main reasons Venus is so much warmer than the Earth.
Incorrect. Yes, Venus is closer to the sun and thus receives roughly 93% more solar energy than does Earth. However, Venus' albedo is around 70%, more than double Earth's roughly 30%. That means more than 2/3 of the solar radiation striking Venus is reflected back to space--more than negating the warming advantage Venus gains by being closer to the sun. IOW, based on the distance from the Sun and the albedo of both planets, Venus should be colder than Earth because it actually absorbs a lot less solar radiation. Since that's clearly not the case, proximity is clearly not a factor.
Quoting trumpman84:
In a distant third is the higher concentration of CO2 on Venus compared to Earth. The Venus atmosphere is almost entirely Carbon Dioxide -- 96.5%. By contrast, the CO2 concentration on Earth's atmosphere is 0.04%. Even if we burned everything we have, and had the worst feedbacks imaginable, we wouldn't get close. It would take an atmospheric increase of 241,250% to reach Venus's concentration of CO2. Hell, it would take a CO2 concentration 2500% the current amount to even make up 1% of the atmosphere. For reference, atmospheric CO2 has increased 20-25% since pre-industrial times.
No, not a "distant third", but first place. Period. There are massive stores of carbon locked up in Earth's rocks, as there were at one time on Venus. Should we humans and/or some cataclysmic event occur to nudge warming past a certain point, there's absolutely nothing that would prevent our rocks from surrendering their carbon to the atmosphere in a runaway event similar to what is theorized to have happened on Venus.
Quoting trumpman84:
[T]his Venus = Earth argument is so easy to tear apart, I think it's embarassing to the AGW cause for those who continue to champion it.
If you ask me, this Venus ≠ Earth argument is so easy to tear apart, I think it's embarassing to the climate change denialist cause for those who continue to repeat it. ;-)
Quoting trumpman84:
Not to mention, atmospheric CO2 concentrations and temperatures have been much higher in the distant past, and no runaway feedbacks which permanently altered Earth's climate occured...
True. But then again, previous warming events didn't have humans helping out by pumping 3.4 million metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each and every hour of each and every day...
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Thanks Doc for the entry.Interesting article even though I don't like the fact wunderground advertises TWC in our faces now >.>..No one respond please.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


I would think that the only thing that would permanently alter Earth's climate is when our sun supernovas. There ain't no coming back from that!
No supernova not enough mass just red giant then white dwarf
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Quoting dabirds:
Lost the last of our shaded snow yesterday Keep - see you guys have freezing rain chance too, probably a little more common there in Mid Jan. than in Duluth. I'm still having trouble with that! 41 and drizziling in S C IL.
I am from the area in northern mn it is not that unusual to have freezing rain from time to time and we nearly always get a January thaw for a few days.
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That blob is only half on land yet!!!

Loop Of Funktop embedded

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Fog over city
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Not again! I do not have the answer for this, but we had better find one soon.


There is no answer, unless you find an answer to mental illness. I'm actually surprised that in a country of over 300 million people, where it's easy to buy a gun, this kind of thing doesn't happen more often.

Around 1% of that 300 million have, or will get, a diagnosis of schizophrenia. Many more, perhaps 10 times as many, have schizoid symptoms, but either don't meet the stringent criteria for a diagnosis of schizophrenia, or have simply not come to the attention of the health authorities.

Many of the perpetrators have Asperger's symptoms, and it's common for symptoms of both conditions to be present. The conditions are related.

So, you have tens of millions of people in the US who have, or will develop, schizophrenia or Asperger's, whether diagnosed or undiagnosed. And they can buy guns easily. Like I said, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. However, only a tiny percentage of them pose this kind of threat.

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Thanks Dr Masters
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Thanks Doc.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


I would think that the only thing that would permanently alter Earth's climate is when our sun supernovas. There ain't no coming back from that!


Lol!

I don't think that would be the "only thing", but it would certainly trump AGW now wouldn't it?
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