Winter Storm Draco ends record snowless streaks across Midwest

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:03 PM GMT on December 19, 2012

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Winter Storm Draco is powering up over the Upper Midwest, and is poised to bring a resounding end to the record-length snowless streaks a number of U.S. cities have notched this year. Blizzard warnings are posted over portions of Colorado, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin, and snowfall amounts of up to a foot are expected in some of the affected regions. While the heavy snow will create dangerous travel conditions, the .5" - 1.5" of melted water equivalent from the the storm will provide welcome moisture for drought-parched areas of the Midwest. Though much of the moisture will stay locked up as snow for the rest of the year, runoff from the storm may help keep Lake Michigan and Huron from setting an all-time record low for the month of December, and may also keep the Mississippi River at St. Louis above the -5' stage though the end of December. If the river falls below -5', barge traffic on the Mississippi may be forced to halt, costing billions of dollars. The Army Corps of Engineers is blasting away rocks on the river bottom south of St. Louis and releasing water from Carlyle Lake in Southern Illinois this week, in order to keep the Mississippi River high enough to allow barge traffic to negotiate the near-record low water levels. Several gauges on the Mississippi have set all-time record lows this year: the New Madrid, Missouri gauge on August 30, 2012 and the Tiptonville, Tennessee gauge on September 2. Records at the Tiptonville gauge go back to at least 1879.


Figure 1. Predicted precipitation totals fopr the 3-day period ending on December 22. Approximately 0.5 - 1.5" of melted water equivalent from Winter Storm Draco is expected over much of the drought-stricken Midwest. Image credit: NOAA/HPC.


Figure 2. Average water levels on Lake Michigan and Lake Huron are near their lowest December levels ever recorded, preliminary data from NOAA's Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory indicate.

Record snowless streaks coming to end because of Winter Storm Draco
The U.S. has had its warmest and 12th driest year on record, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. It should be no surprise, then, that a number of major cities have set records for their longest period without snow. Most of these streaks have come to and end (or will do so in the next day or two) because of Winter Storm Draco:

MIlwaukee, Wisconsin's record streak without measurable snow ended December 18 with 0.5" of snow; the streak was 288 consecutive days, bookended by measurable snowfall on March 5 and Dec. 18. Milwaukee is likely to get an additional 4 - 6" of snow from Draco.

Omaha, Nebraska's record streak without measurable snow ended December 16 with 0.6" of snow; the streak was 295 consecutive days, bookended by measurable snowfall on Feb. 24 and Dec. 16. Omaha is likely to get 6 - 9" of total snow before the current storm winds down. Record latest first snow of the season: December 26, 1888.

Chicago, Illinois' new record snowless streak continues at 289 consecutive days as of Tuesday. The last measurable snow there was March 4. Previous record: 280 consecutive days between the measurable snowfalls of March 1, 1994 and December 5, 1994. Chicago has also broken its record for latest snowfall in the season, previously set on December 16, 1965. These streaks will likely end on Thursday, when 1 - 4" of snow are expected.

Rockford, Illinois' new record snowless streak continues at 289 consecutive days as of Tuesday, but this streak will likely end on Thursday, when 3 - 6" of snow are expected. The last measurable snow in Rockford was March 4. Previous record: 286 consecutive days between the measurable snowfalls of March 3, 1922 and December 13, 1922. Record latest first snow of the season: January 7, 1940.

Lincoln, Nebraska's new record snowless streak continues at 308 consecutive days as of Tuesday. This streak will likely end Wednesday or Thursday, as 6 -8" of snow are expected. The last measurable snow there was Feb. 13. Previous record: 295 consecutive days between the measurable snowfalls of Feb. 6 and Nov. 28, 2004. Record latest first snow of the season: December 31, 2006.

Syracuse, NY is often the snowiest major city in the contiguous U.S. This year, Syracuse has not yet had a 1" snowfall--the second latest such streak. The 3.0" that has fallen is over 28" below what Syracuse usually gets by this time of the season. The latest in the season that the first 1" snow has come to Syracuse occurred on December 22, 1998 (the previous warmest year on record in the U.S.) With the forecast calling for lake effect snows on the 22nd, Syracuse may just miss setting its mark for latest 1" snowfall of the season.

Jeff Masters

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988. Pipejazz
1:53 PM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:
I just got accepted to Penn State University beginning fall 2013!!!

I will be studying meteorology there!!

Impressive academic institution. At the risk of annoying some English professors..."Do us proud".
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987. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
5:04 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
986. Slamguitar
5:03 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
I'm saddened by the mass amount of Facebook "friends" I have that apparently think the Winter solstice occurred at midnight EST.

Had to tell them to keep holding their breath until 6:12am EST. :D
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985. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:02 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
I don't like how my YouTube suddenly switched to this video right at midnight...

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984. TropicalAnalystwx13
4:48 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
The Hurricane Research Division's reanalysis of the 1935-1940 Atlantic hurricane seasons is complete. The changes are as follows...

- Seven new tropical storms (3 of which became hurricanes - 1 was a January hurricane)

- The Great Hurricane of 1938 was retained as a Category 3, but its landfall intensity was upped to 105 knots (120 mph) from 85 knots (100 mph).

Source
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983. Slamguitar
4:45 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting weatherh98:
it's all about the cash


There's gold in them there Ice Pilots!
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982. KoritheMan
4:42 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting beell:


too lazy to explain "Parish" to the rest of the world.
don't blame ya'.


Pretty much.
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981. weatherh98
4:39 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting wxgeek723:
So there are Blizzard Warnings in the Midwest yet I turn on TWC and see Ice Pilots.

Lol.
it's all about the cash
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980. weatherh98
4:39 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
One hour and 21 minutes until every social media outlet goes nuts

"Bugging out" to wunderground for the next day
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979. wxgeek723
4:34 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
So there are Blizzard Warnings in the Midwest yet I turn on TWC and see Ice Pilots.

Lol.
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978. beell
4:34 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting KoritheMan:


Standard vernacular. :P


too lazy to explain "Parish" to the rest of the world.
don't blame ya'.
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977. KoritheMan
4:32 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting beell:


?
:)


Standard vernacular. :P
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976. KoritheMan
4:32 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting belizeit:
I wish it was cold here so i could say brrr but the weather has been really hummid the last week


As if it ever gets cold in Belize, lol.
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975. beell
4:32 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting KoritheMan:


The cold front responsible for this ("Draco" by TWC) produced damaging winds in my county around 7 AM this morning. Based on my experiences as a weather observer, I would estimate gusts were at or over the severe threshold, which begins at 58 mph (50 kt). I was a wee bit surprised I never lost power.

Kinda enjoyed it though. :D


?
:)
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974. wxmod
4:30 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
"The wriggly beetle larvae known as mealworms could one day dominate supermarket shelves as a more sustainable alternative to chicken, beef, pork and milk, researchers in the Netherlands say."

http://www.livescience.com/25709-mealworms-sustai nable-meat-alternative.html
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973. KoritheMan
4:21 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting aislinnpaps:
The temps have dropped here in my part of Louisiana. We've been having wind gusts of 44 mph. Went out with my Goldens and the wind was strong and cold. Beautiful!


The cold front responsible for this ("Draco" by TWC) produced damaging winds in my county around 7 AM this morning. Based on my experiences as a weather observer, I would estimate gusts were at or over the severe threshold, which begins at 58 mph (50 kt). I was a wee bit surprised I never lost power.

Kinda enjoyed it though. :D
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972. KoritheMan
4:19 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:
I just got accepted to Penn State University beginning fall 2013!!!

I will be studying meteorology there!!



:D
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971. beell
4:16 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
GFS flip-flops continue. After a strong start depicting a notable snow storm over the plains, 3 or 4 runs showing a weaker and less-amplifed system over the plains. 00Z back to a more southerly dig and a little stronger and well formed trough.

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970. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
4:09 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting belizeit:
I wish it was cold here so i could say brrr but the weather has been really hummid the last week
you are in the tropics thats what its to be
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969. GeoffreyWPB
4:00 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
For West Palm Beach...



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
1023 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

.UPDATE...
SO FAR, THE FORECAST IS GOING ALONG AS PLANNED. SOME MINOR
TEMPERATURE VARIATIONS HAVE BEEN SEEN, BUT NOTHING DRAMATIC,
MOSTLY WITHIN A COUPLE OF DEGREES EACH HOUR. THE STRONG COLD
FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED, IS STILL MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL FLORIDA
AT THIS TIME. WHILE RADAR SHOWS A LINE OF STRONG THUNDERSTORMS AND
POSSIBLY HEAVY SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT, MODELS ARE
SHOWING THIS WILL PUSH OFF TO THE EAST AND ONLY SOME LIGHT TO
MODERATE SCATTERED SHOWERS SHOULD AFFECT THE CWA, AND THEN, MAINLY
ALONG THE NORTHERN FRINGE. ALSO, EVEN THOUGH NO CHANGES TO THE
LOWS SATURDAY HAVE BEEN MADE AT THIS TIME, MODEL GUIDANCE IS
CONTINUING TO TREND A LITTLE COLDER WITH EACH RUN. FORECAST LOWS
WILL LIKELY NEED ADJUSTMENT WITH THE MAIN 00Z MODEL RUNS.
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967. txjac
3:52 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Finally got some of the cooler weather I wanted here in Houston ...lucky I have my seven kitties and one doggie to keep me warm ...got a fire in the fireplace and the tree all lit up here in the dark ...finally feels a bit like Christmas
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965. Chapelhill
3:40 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:


It will be meteorology, of course!
Great choice! Don't let the math and stat's bum you; there just a hoop along the road, and of course their is better weather down that line. :-)

Front just passed; wind shift, but no gust. Only got .18" rain when modeled for .6-.8". Grrr. Drought conditions worsen for central NC.



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964. belizeit
3:35 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
I wish it was cold here so i could say brrr but the weather has been really hummid the last week
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963. bappit
3:33 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
I was thinking the air with this winter storm wasn't particularly cold. Seems it is going to get colder though. From the Kansas City discussion:

"Medium Range (Sunday through Thursday)...

The operative word for the medium range will be COLD. In fact, based on current projections we could mathematically lose our status of having the warmest year on record hear in Kansas City.

A lead shortwave trough will emerge from the Rockies on Sunday and may evolve into a lead disturbance that could bring some light snow across the eastern CWA Monday per the 12Z ECMWF. Of more significant is the short wavelength/high amplitude ridge that develops along the west coast in response. The is going to allow the downstream floodgates to open in terms of polar air having a direct route from the Canadian Rockies front range down into the central CONUS. Several reinforcing surface highs of 1030 to 1040mb+ in magnitude will become entrenched across the region, leading to a downward spiral in temperatures through the medium range. Given the now extensive snowpack north of the local area, little airmass modification is expected.

Ultimately, the degree of low level cold advection will determine where baroclinity sets up ahead of the much talked about Pacific disturbance that will pass by Christmas night. As discussed yesterday, there has been an extremely high degree of variability in where cyclogensis will occur and the 12Z models offer no hope, reverting back to a major storm digging well south of the region. Obviously if unmodified upstream polar air is allowed direct access to the region in advance on Monday, then it would seem reasonably to expect that a developing cyclone and its associated precipitation shield would consequently shift south as well. For continuity sake, have left the chance POPs over the southern CWA, but the overall forecast confidence after Monday is lower than normal."
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962. Bielle
3:22 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting Thecanadian:

Another Canadian ! we just received our first snowfall in southern new brunswick yesterday about 15 cm .


There are a few of us.
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961. LostInUtah
3:21 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
BRRR Cold here in SE Utah (Moab) where we got a few inches of snow on the redrock. Currently 9 degrees and dropping (at 8ish p.m., Thurs nite). Not usually this cold here. Happy Solstice everyone (a bit early here) and happy end of the world - since it's the 21st in some parts of the world (does the world end in time zone segments?).
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960. Chicklit
3:15 AM GMT on December 21, 2012


Congrats WX Geek VA about getting accepted to Penn State. Am sure you worked really hard to get to that place! Happy news!

SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
925 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

-SYNOPSIS FOR FLAGLER BEACH TO JUPITER INLET OUT TO 60 NM-COASTAL VOLUSIA-FLAGLER BEACH TO VOLUSIA-
BREVARD COUNTY LINE 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-FLAGLER BEACH TO VOLUSIA-BREVARD COUNTY LINE OUT TO 20 NM-INDIAN RIVER-INLAND VOLUSIA-NORTHERN BREVARD-NORTHERN LAKE-ORANGE-OSCEOLA-SEMINOLE-SOUTHERN BREVARD-SOUTHERN LAKE-VOLUSIA-BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO SEBASTIAN INLET 20 NM TO 60 NM OFFSHORE-VOLUSIA-BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO SEBASTIAN INLET OUT TO 20 NM-
925 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

.NOW...
THROUGH MIDNIGHT...A LINE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE EAST NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH AND MOVE ACROSS LAKE... NORTHWEST ORANGE...SEMINOLE AND VOLUSIA COUNTIES. THE SHOWERS AND STORMS WILL PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF ONE TO ONE AND A HALF INCHES... GUSTY WINDS TO 45 MPH...AND CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING STRIKES. THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF STRONGER WINDS OF 50 TO 55 MPH WITH SOME OF THE STRONGEST STORMS AND EVEN THE POTENTIAL FOR A FEW ROTATING STORMS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE MAIN CONVECTIVE LINE. SPOTTERS SHOULD BE PREPARED TO SELF ACTIVATE TONIGHT.
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959. bappit
3:11 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
from Hudson Bay

"Hudson Bay was the growth centre for the main ice sheet that covered northern North America during the last Ice Age. The whole region has very low year round average temperatures. (The average annual temperature for Churchill at 59N is -5C; by comparison Arkhangelsk at 64N in a similar cold continental position in northern Russia has an average of 2C.[16]) Water temperature peaks at 8-9C (46-48F) on the western side of the bay in late summer. It is largely frozen over from mid-December to mid-June when it usually clears from its eastern end westwards and southwards. A steady increase in regional temperatures over the last 100 years has been reflected in a lengthening of the ice-free period which was as short as four months in the late 17th century."

Wouldn't want to have been Hudson.

"On his fourth voyage to North America, Hudson worked his way around the west coast of Greenland and into the bay, mapping much of its eastern coast. The Discovery became trapped in the ice over the winter, and the crew survived onshore at the southern tip of James Bay. When the ice cleared in the spring Hudson wanted to explore the rest of the area, but the crew mutinied on June 22, 1611. They left Hudson and others adrift in a small boat. No one knows the fate of Hudson and the crewmembers stranded with him, but historians see no evidence that they survived for long afterwards."
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958. GTcooliebai
3:11 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Raining amazingly hard here right now with lots of lightning and strong wind gusts.
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957. wxchaser97
3:09 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
MIC133-220215-

CIVIL EMERGENCY MESSAGE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
RELAYED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
903 PM EST THU DEC 20 2012

THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS TRANSMITTED AT THE REQUEST OF OSCEOLA
COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

FOR OSCEOLA RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THE COUNTY WIDE POWER OUTAGES...THE
AMERICAN RED CROSS IS PROVIDING SHELTER...FOOD...AND WATER
SERVICES IN OSCEOLA AND WEXFORD COUNTIES. FOR DETAILED INFORMATION
ON DIRECTIONS...LOCATIONS AND AVAILABLE SERVICES...RESIDENTS
SHOULD CONTACT THE AMERICAN RED CROSS IN BIG RAPIDS
AT 2 3 1 - 7 9 6 - 6 5 6 2.

Ouch, that's got to suck having a county wide power outage.
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956. wxgeek723
3:04 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



It's beginning to look alot like Christmas!


So glad to see that's still the North Pole :)
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955. Thecanadian
2:23 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting Bielle:
Snow here in southern Ontario, but not much. It was preceded by some freezing rain.

Another Canadian ! we just received our first snowfall in southern new brunswick yesterday about 15 cm .
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954. Bielle
2:21 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Snow here in southern Ontario, but not much. It was preceded by some freezing rain.
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953. whitewabit (Mod)
2:20 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
winds out of the NW at 25 sustained with gust to 45 mph at the present here in Peoria, IL .. Pressure has risen from a low of 985 hPa as the low passed overhead to the present 1002 hPa .. still snowing lightly with 3 inches on the ground ..

Edit .. temp 28.8 degrees ..
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952. PensacolaDoug
2:17 AM GMT on December 21, 2012



It's beginning to look alot like Christmas!
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951. oldnewmex
2:15 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Yay, winter is finally here! Our first significant snowstorm of the season; welcome after last winter's disappointment.


Event:

Winter Storm Warning



Alert:

...SNOW IN THE SIERRA FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT...

.A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL REMAIN STATIONARY OFF THE
PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST THROUGH THIS WEEKEND. A STRONG JET MOVING
AROUND THE BASE OF THE LOW WILL PICK UP DEEP PACIFIC MOISTURE
BRINGING PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY
NIGHT.
DANGEROUS WINTER CONDITIONS WILL IMPACT HOLIDAY TRAVEL AND OUTDOOR
ACTIVITIES. ACROSS THE SIERRA...PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG
WINDS COULD LEAD TO WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND VERY LENGTHY TRAVEL
DELAYS ESPECIALLY BY SATURDAY. TRAVELERS NEED TO CONSIDER AN
ALTERNATE ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA PASSES THIS WEEKEND.

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO
4 AM PST MONDAY...

A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND WINDS REMAINS IN EFFECT
FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO 4 AM PST MONDAY.

* TIMING: PERIODS OF LIGHT TO OCCASIONALLY MODERATE SNOW FRIDAY
WILL INTENSIFY EARLY SATURDAY MORNING WITH PERIODS OF MODERATE
TO HEAVY SNOW SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FRIDAY: 3 TO 6 INCHES EAST OF HIGHWAY 89...
WITH 6 TO 10 INCHES WEST OF HIGHWAY 89.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS EARLY SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING: OVER 2
FEET ABOVE 7000 FEET WITH 1 TO 2 FEET IN THE TAHOE BASIN. THE
HIGHEST TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS WILL OCCUR ALONG AND WEST OF HIGHWAY
89 AND NEAR MOUNT ROSE WHERE 3 TO 5 FEET IS POSSIBLE.

* WINDS: SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45 MPH.
RIDGE GUSTS UP TO 100 MPH.

* IMPACTS: PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL LEAD TO
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND LENGTHY TRAVEL DELAYS...ESPECIALLY
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. TRAVELERS NEED TO CONSIDER A SECONDARY
ROUTE TO AVOID THE SIERRA PASSES THIS WEEKEND. BACK COUNTRY
ACTIVITIES ARE NOT ADVISED.


Instructions:

CONDITIONS WILL DETERIORATE RAPIDLY LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY. TRAVEL IS DISCOURAGED OVER THE SIERRA PASSES THIS WEEKEND. CARRY EXTRA FOOD...WATER AND CLOTHES IN YOUR CAR IF YOU MUST TRAVEL. CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/RENO FOR UPDATES ON THIS SITUATION.
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950. Thecanadian
2:09 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Of course not. Most of the United States gets accumulating snowfall at least once a year.

that's what i figured . i know the general pattern of cold air but, i dont know how far south the snow travels on a regular basis . i know snow has been seen as far south as mexico . even a couple years ago we would see mostly snow from january to march , but in the last three years its been mostly rain and ive noticed a huge pattern change.
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949. LargoFl
2:08 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
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948. LargoFl
2:07 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
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947. LargoFl
2:05 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
almost here, i can hear distant booming in the gulf
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946. LargoFl
2:03 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
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945. TropicalAnalystwx13
2:01 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting Thecanadian:
im not familiar with weather patterns in the mid states but is it unusual to see snow that far south ? im in Canada and only seen snow once so far this year .

Of course not. Most of the United States gets accumulating snowfall at least once a year.
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944. Thecanadian
1:59 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
im not familiar with weather patterns in the mid states but is it unusual to see snow that far south ? im in Canada and only seen snow once so far this year .
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943. LargoFl
1:58 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
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942. Civicane49
1:57 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
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941. Skyepony (Mod)
1:55 AM GMT on December 21, 2012

It's coming..during the longest night. Everyone have a safe Solstice!

Thursday, December 20, 2012
Posted at 6:20 PM
Strong storms possible later this evening

A cold front across the Florida panhandle into the eastern Gulf of Mexico will sweep toward the northern Florida peninsula through late evening. A line of showers and thunderstorms is expected to move east at 35 mph from the eastern Florida big bend and northeast Gulf toward areas north and west of the I-4 corridor through late evening. Storms may approach Lake county between 8 pm and 9 pm and move toward metro Orlando and Volusia county through midnight. Some of the strongest storms may have gusty winds to 45 to 55 mph, frequent lightning and very heavy rainfall of one to two inches.

Showers and storms are expected to move toward Osceola county and the Space coast after midnight and weaken as the line moves south toward the Treasure coast and Okeechobee county during the overnight hours.

A cold and dry airmass behind the front will drop temperatures into the 40s late Tonight across Lake county, metro Orlando and Volusia county. Northwest winds will become windy behind the front after midnight with winds increasing to near 20 mph gusts up to 30 mph.

Posted by Matt Volkmer
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940. MAweatherboy1
1:46 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:
I just got accepted to Penn State University beginning fall 2013!!!

I will be studying meteorology there!!


Congrats Geek! It'll be time for me to start doing applications before too long...
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939. PensacolaDoug
1:46 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:


JB = nutcase



Joe Biden?
Justin Bieber?
Jimmy Buffet?
Jack Black?
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938. TomTaylor
1:44 AM GMT on December 21, 2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:


JB = nutcase
His predictions can be nutty and hyped, but he definitely understands the weather...especially teleconnections and pattern recognition at the 500mb level.
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