Dallas beats Chicago for first snow of the season; record snowless streak in Chicago

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:23 PM GMT on December 11, 2012

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It's been a bad year for building snowmen in Chicago. It last snowed in Chicago on March 4, 2012, and Chicago has now gone 281 days in a row without snow, its longest such streak on record. Weather records for Chicago date back to 1871. Dallas, Texas had its first snow of the season yesterday, picking up 0.1". This is only the second time on record that Dallas has had an earlier first snow than Chicago. The only other time this has happened was in 1951, when Dallas received 0.6" on November 2, and Chicago had 4.4" on November 3.

With accumulating snow looking highly unlikely through at least December 14, Chicago's record for latest accumulating snow of the season may also fall. The average date for Chicago's first measurable snowfall is November 16, and the latest first snow of the season on record occurred on December 16, 1965. Rain mixed with snow is expected this weekend on the 15th and 16th, but the precipitation may fall entirely as rain. The lack of snow in Chicago this year is reflective of both how warm and dry it's been. The 25.20" of rain Chicago has received so far in 2012 is more than 10" below average, and the city experienced its 10th driest January - November period on record. Record warmth in early December brought Chicago only its 3rd 70°F December day on December 3.

Jeff Masters

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599. plutorising
10:15 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:



Link


Link

thanks so much for that.
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598. eddye
6:26 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
people lets go talk in weather chat about the winter season i need someone to talk about the snow for fl for next week
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597. KoritheMan
6:24 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
The Andrew no one knows about.

Link
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596. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
6:24 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
595. RitaEvac
6:12 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting yoboi:



my compass is starting to switch directions it's heading south when facing north. what does that mean?? each day it's slowly changing...


Means the compass needs replacing
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594. thunderbug91
6:06 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:



I hope so! We need the rain really bad. The frontal convection doesn't look that impressive, yet, but the upper level energy inducing the rainfall to the west is still further west of the front, once it crosses the front into the warm sector with the deeper moisture and higher instability we may see the line become more impressive.

We can't count on it though, so far Monday actually had the most impressive weather when it wasn't predicted, the models completely screwed up across the board with yesterdays forecast so we'll see how they do today. The models are even somewhat wrong today, at least with timing, most of the models I saw showed the rainfall already crossing our area by now, with more overcast conditions and more stability. It is more unstable in the eastern gulf than it was forecast to be thanks to full or mostly full sun so far today.

With the lack of model confidence, I'm not fully sure what to expect. However, it at least looks like we should see a good round of rain and storms for everyone later.




CAPE is climbing and climbing...
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592. Jedkins01
6:01 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting thunderbug91:

we're in the same general area, Jedkins. What do you think we are gonna get? Some excitement?



I hope so! We need the rain really bad. The frontal convection doesn't look that impressive, yet, but the upper level energy inducing the rainfall to the west is still further west of the front, once it crosses the front into the warm sector with the deeper moisture and higher instability we may see the line become more impressive.

We can't count on it though, so far Monday actually had the most impressive weather when it wasn't predicted, the models completely screwed up across the board with yesterdays forecast so we'll see how they do today. The models are even somewhat wrong today, at least with timing, most of the models I saw showed the rainfall already crossing our area by now, with more overcast conditions and more stability. It is more unstable in the eastern gulf than it was forecast to be thanks to full or mostly full sun so far today.

With the lack of model confidence, I'm not fully sure what to expect. However, it at least looks like we should see a good round of rain and storms for everyone later.
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591. indianrivguy
5:56 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting KarenRei:


For the record, I have a banana tree here in Iceland, along with a bunch of other tropicals.

Indoors, mind you ;) But yes, there are plants like that growing this far north. And I know from the experience of others that it's even possible to grow palms outdoors in colder weather than ours. The trick is, come winter, bundle them up into a spire, wrap the spire in incandescent christmas lights, then wrap the whole thing (lights and all) in insulation.

On a much easier front, I've been thinking about, if I have a spare banana pup or similar come next summer, hiking it and a bag of soil up to the top of a mountain or onto a glacier or such and planting it there for a few months (while the weather is warm enough not to kill it) to confuse the utter heck out of hikers.


you rock!
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589. thunderbug91
5:54 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting etxwx:
Here in northwestern Southeast Texas, the hay bales and pasture had a little frosting on them early this morning.

lol feels like its August here.....
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588. etxwx
5:51 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Here in northwestern Southeast Texas, the hay bales and pasture had a little frosting on them early this morning.
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587. thunderbug91
5:50 PM GMT on December 12, 2012

I agree this looks interesting!!
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586. ncstorm
5:48 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
SNOW on Christmas!!! (Disclaimor..yeah I know it keeps flip flopping but as long as there is hope, Im thrilled)

12z GFS


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585. thunderbug91
5:47 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
The rainbow floater shows activity blooming along the prefrontal mass and some growing outflow boundaries too......
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584. thunderbug91
5:45 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:













These parameters look more impressive than a "see text".

Just sayin...

we're in the same general area, Jedkins. What do you think we are gonna get? Some excitement?
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583. thunderbug91
5:44 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
cold front really moving now.......
Here it comes, Largo and it looks big!
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582. Jedkins01
5:43 PM GMT on December 12, 2012













These parameters look more impressive than a "see text".

Just sayin...
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581. bappit
5:33 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting RitaEvac:
Click full zoom mode



Just candle light bags floating in the air...

Someone floated one of those by an LSU football night game back when John Ferguson was on radio. I think Walter Hill scoped it out with his binoculars, but it had people wondering.
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580. hydrus
5:23 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Possible Nor,Easter still showing on GFS. Rain amounts for the next 5 days.
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579. jeffs713
5:16 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting KarenRei:
On a much easier front, I've been thinking about, if I have a spare banana pup or similar come next summer, hiking it and a bag of soil up to the top of a mountain or onto a glacier or such and planting it there for a few months (while the weather is warm enough not to kill it) to confuse the utter heck out of hikers.

The hike to plant the tree/seedling/whatever would be well worth it for the confusion it would sow. (pun intended)
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578. nrtiwlnvragn
5:12 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting plutorising:
does anybody know what happens when you minus someone's post?



Link


Link
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577. Slamguitar
5:09 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting thunderbug91:

dunno. I was wondering the same thing.
I hope its nothing bad cuz when i went to plus your comment i hit the minus key by accident


I minused it too. Ya know, for science.
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576. VR46L
5:08 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting thunderbug91:
GOM blobs starting to try to grow again it seems...


Yep seem to be...

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575. thunderbug91
5:07 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting plutorising:
does anybody know what happens when you minus someone's post?

dunno. I was wondering the same thing.
I hope its nothing bad cuz when i went to plus your comment i hit the minus key by accident
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574. plutorising
5:05 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
does anybody know what happens when you minus someone's post?
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573. thunderbug91
4:55 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
GOM blobs starting to try to grow again it seems...
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572. RitaEvac
4:53 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Click full zoom mode



Just candle light bags floating in the air...
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571. KarenRei
4:52 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting TomballTXPride:





Ha!

Your never know with the AGW some preach on here. Before you know it, we'll be booking getting away tropical vacations to Greenland.

:)





For the record, I have a banana tree here in Iceland, along with a bunch of other tropicals.

Indoors, mind you ;) But yes, there are plants like that growing this far north. And I know from the experience of others that it's even possible to grow palms outdoors in colder weather than ours. The trick is, come winter, bundle them up into a spire, wrap the spire in incandescent christmas lights, then wrap the whole thing (lights and all) in insulation.

On a much easier front, I've been thinking about, if I have a spare banana pup or similar come next summer, hiking it and a bag of soil up to the top of a mountain or onto a glacier or such and planting it there for a few months (while the weather is warm enough not to kill it) to confuse the utter heck out of hikers.
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570. bappit
4:47 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
It Really Isn't A Question of Who Is Right And Who Is Wrong Anymore! For People Will Come To The Full Realization, Life As They Have Always Known It, Has Changed! What Will Separate Those Who Will Thrive In The New Energies, As Opposed To Those Who Will Perish In The Framework, Will Be A State of Mind, A New Conscious Awareness, of ONEness! Those Who Cling To Life As To How It Once Was, Will Face Increasingly Difficult Times, Despite Playing By The Rules!
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569. RitaEvac
4:44 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting SteveDa1:
Quoting #558

LOL Thanks for the laugh!


Yes! laugh now, cry later, LOL!
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568. VR46L
4:38 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting TomballTXPride:





Ha!

Your never know with the AGW some preach on here. Before you know it, we'll be booking getting away tropical vacations to Greenland.

:)





Or Equatorial type climes like Ireland....LOL
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567. KarenRei
4:34 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Bufkit test:


Monday severe weather BMX (birmingham)


I don't know the rules to that tetris game, but I so want to play...

(interesting, never heard of bufkit before!)
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565. 3rdworldlover
4:32 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting thunderbug91:

did the drainage systems work alright or is there flooding today?


Most of it fell along the immediate coast just north of Juno Beach, where drainage and infiltration happen quickly, due to the sand dune geology. US1 was flooded and cars were left stranded for some time last night.

Areas inland that rely on canal networks with mucky flat soils flooded more with less rainfall, some homes were damaged. Some residential streets were still impassable this morning, inland Jupiter.
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564. SteveDa1
4:27 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting #558

LOL Thanks for the laugh!
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563. ncstorm
4:23 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Its currently 48 degrees and windy and on and off rain here..

and for those of yall stacking your underground busses with supplies, Happy 12/12/12..DOOM!!



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562. GeorgiaStormz
4:23 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting StevenPolanski:


HOW YA DO THAT?


are you wxchaser97? or Grovysixer
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561. thunderbug91
4:17 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting stormchaser43:
u seriously have gotta be kidding.is that another copy and paste job from a yahoo comment board,,
Theres a whole lot of good scrabble words in there, for sure!
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560. RitaEvac
4:15 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting stormchaser43:
u seriously have gotta be kidding.is that another copy and paste job from a yahoo comment board,,


;) throwing stones I see...
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558. RitaEvac
4:12 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Today is 12-12-12, there are 9 days till the winter solstice

You are amongst the forerunners of a new paradigm who will set the precedents upon which the ground rules of the new world will be based. You have identified yourself to yourself and have dared to stand alone in the Light of your inner truth, while others, still cloaked in the self-righteousness of consensus thinking, throw stones-as the very fabric of that reality unravels. And you have exercised the wisdom to stand firm in your truth and watch quietly as the cards are shuffled and reshuffled and the lives of others succumb to the shifting tides of change.
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557. thunderbug91
4:11 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting 3rdworldlover:
We got almost 10 inches of rain in about three hours here in Jupiter last night, along with excessive lightning and power outages. We've had thunderstorms for at least the last three days, humid and hot. It sure doesn't feel like December.

did the drainage systems work alright or is there flooding today?
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556. thunderbug91
4:10 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting TomballTXPride:





Ha!

Your never know with the AGW some preach on here. Before you know it, we'll be booking getting away tropical vacations to Greenland.

:)




I know right lol
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554. thunderbug91
4:08 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting TomballTXPride:




Not if it's bonded Detroit or Chicago style, Neighbor.

Now a brick somewhere in Tomball - Sure, since it's all veneer anyways.





Maybe they used a coconut. But I dont think they grow that far north...
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552. thunderbug91
4:05 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting plutorising:

if it hits them on monday, it hits atlanta on tuesday...

And Florida on Wednesday? Maybe?
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551. jeffs713
4:04 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
Quoting thunderbug91:

Brick? I thought it was a paint bucket....

NK would have to buy the paint bucket. They can just pull the brick from someone's house.
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550. 3rdworldlover
4:03 PM GMT on December 12, 2012
We got almost 10 inches of rain in about three hours here in Jupiter last night, along with excessive lightning and power outages. We've had thunderstorms for at least the last three days, humid and hot. It sure doesn't feel like December.
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