Very warm November assures 2012 will be warmest year in U.S. history

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:39 PM GMT on December 07, 2012

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The heat is on again in the U.S. After recording its first cooler-than-average month in sixteen months during October, the U.S. heated up considerably in November, notching its 20th warmest November since 1895, said NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) in their latest State of the Climate report. The warm November virtually assures that 2012 will be the warmest year on record in the U.S. The year-to-date period of January - November has been by far the warmest such period on record for the contiguous U.S.--a remarkable 1.0°F above the previous record. During the 11-month period, 18 states were record warm and an additional 24 states were top ten warm. The December 2011 - November 2012 period was the warmest such 12-month period on record for the contiguous U.S., and the eight warmest 12-month periods since record keeping began in 1895 have all ended during 2012. December 2012 would have to be 1°F colder than our coldest December on record (set in 1983) to prevent the year 2012 from being the warmest in U.S. history. This is meteorologically impossible, given the recent December heat in the U.S. As wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt reported, an early-December heat wave this week set records for warmest December temperature on record in seven states. December 2012 is on pace to be a top-20% warmest December on record in the U.S.

November 2012 was the 8th driest November on record for the U.S., and twenty-two states had top-ten driest Novembers. The area of the contiguous U.S. experiencing moderate-to-exceptional drought grew from 59% on November 6 to 62% on December 6. This is the largest area of the U.S. in drought since 1954.


Figure 1. Historical temperature ranking for the U.S. for November 2012. Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming had top-ten warmest Novembers, while only North Carolina had a top-ten coldest November. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).


Figure 2. Historical temperature ranking for the U.S. for the January - November period. Eighteen states were record warm, and an additional 24 states were top ten warm. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).

Most extreme January - November period on record
The year-to-date January - November period was the most extreme on record in the contiguous U.S., according to NOAA's U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI), which tracks the percentage area of the contiguous U.S. experiencing top-10% and bottom-10% extremes in temperature, precipitation, and drought. The CEI was 46% in January - November, more than double the average of 20%. A record 86% of the contiguous U.S. had maximum temperatures that were in the warmest 10% historically during the first eleven months of 2012, and 71% of the U.S. of the U.S. had warm minimum temperatures in the top 10%--2nd highest on record. The percentage area of the U.S. experiencing top-10% drought conditions was 32%, which was the 4th greatest since 1910. Only droughts in the Dust Bowl year of 1934, and during 1954 and 1956, were more extreme for the January - November period. Heavy 1-day downpours have been below average so far in 2012, though, with 9% of nation experiencing a top-10% extreme, compared to the average of 10%.


Figure 3. NOAA's U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI) for January - November shows that 2012 had the most extreme first eleven months of the year on record, with 46% of the contiguous U.S. experiencing top-10% extreme weather-more than double the average of 20%.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting indianrivguy:


well those are some big ones... I hope to visit out there next summer.. can't wait.. I want to see General Sherman!

IRG..The tree is so amazing in real life...There is much debate about is it really the largest. It depends on so many factors, Height, girth, weight, branch size, height to first branch. etc
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Quoting RTSplayer:
Bopha is starting to turn to the East, headed for the northern Philippines now.

Eye is a bit more ragged, but the colors and brighter with colder cloud tops than a few hours ago.

Looks like it will be a close call... I think she will miss. I hope that the biasch does miss it!
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Bopha is starting to turn to the East, headed for the northern Philippines now.

Eye is a bit more ragged, but the colors and brighter with colder cloud tops than a few hours ago.

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Quoting RTSplayer:


Classifying climate change related deaths is absurd, because currently the most climate related deaths happened in China in the 1960's and in Africa in the 1970's and 1980's.

Since these events were before the worst of our CO2 emissions, this indicates that natural background rate and severity of famines is actually worse than what we've had since then. Which means we can't really know how much or little of famines will happen.


How many people will die from cancers and respiratory diseases caused or enhanced by second hand smoke from cigarettes and now legalized (in Washington state anyway) marijuana over the next 20 years?

If they wont ban and enforce bans against useless poisons why would you think they'd change behavior against side effects of useful technology?

You just think DUI and second hand smoke in public places was bad. Wait till 10 to 20% of people are driving around stoned on Marijuana! Senseless death rates will go up even higher!


I told you, government want higher death rates. If they did not, they would have already done things like I've shown above. They've had the technology for 50 to 60 years in most cases. The fact they are legalizing Marijuana, in spite of the debacle of what happens with other smoked agents such as tobacco causing cancer, this only supports my position!


You realize Washington State is making it legal to smoke Marijuana, and you realize this will cause more motor vehicle accidents, more accidental fall or stupidity deaths while stoned, more cancer, and more of other respiratory, skin, and eye diseases (where ever the smoke goes the particles go and they cause disease there, etc,). So by legalizing Marijuana, the Washington State government is effectively intentionally poisoning the population. This is particularly evil since many people have not done drugs and don't want to try drugs, and will become vulnerable to this heinous act of evil in spite of the fact that they will have done no drugs and no smoking.

Marijuana smokers are POISONING the air, and somebody should take the Washington State to court in the U.S. Supreme court for them legalizing this evil.


I'm not off topic, I'm just showing you a similar, easier to control case, a smoked drug which is a poison and cancer causing agent and not much else, which has the potential to cause or will cause many cancers, including in those who take no part in it.

This is far more evil and urgent than things like smog, which we already deal with anyway.



New Surgeon General's warning suggestion:

"Smoking cigarettes or marijuana kills innocent people who don't get a say in whether you smoke or not."


***It calculated that five million deaths occur each year from air pollution, hunger and disease as a result of climate change and carbon-intensive economies, and that toll would likely rise to six million a year by 2030 if current patterns of fossil fuel use continue.***

I snipped that out of the article I linked, just you could see they took air pollution into consideration. BTW, not to be a wise elbow, but smoking tobacco, weed or whatever, does contribute to climate change in that it must be farmed. Farming also provides food, which we cannot avoid havesting if we want to live. I cannot see a connection between climate change and smoking, other than that. And since we have to farm anyway, how is to be avoided?
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Quoting Doppler22:

I hope the snow part is right!!!!!! I would really LOVE some snow!!


And you'll get tons as usual...and i'll get tiny amounts as usual.
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Quoting goosegirl1:




The article is speaking of deaths caused by climate change, not deaths by all causes. If there are more people, common sence would tell you that there will be more deaths.




Classifying climate change related deaths is absurd, because currently the most climate related deaths happened in China in the 1960's and in Africa in the 1970's and 1980's.

Since these events were before the worst of our CO2 emissions, this indicates that natural background rate and severity of famines is actually worse than what we've had since then. Which means we can't really know how much or little of famines will happen.


How many people will die from cancers and respiratory diseases caused or enhanced by second hand smoke from cigarettes and now legalized (in Washington state anyway) marijuana over the next 20 years?

If they wont ban and enforce bans against useless poisons why would you think they'd change behavior against side effects of useful technology?

You just think DUI and second hand smoke in public places was bad. Wait till 10 to 20% of people are driving around stoned on Marijuana! Senseless death rates will go up even higher!


I told you, government want higher death rates. If they did not, they would have already done things like I've shown above. They've had the technology for 50 to 60 years in most cases. The fact they are legalizing Marijuana, in spite of the debacle of what happens with other smoked agents such as tobacco causing cancer, this only supports my position!


You realize Washington State is making it legal to smoke Marijuana, and you realize this will cause more motor vehicle accidents, more accidental fall or stupidity deaths while stoned, more cancer, and more of other respiratory, skin, and eye diseases (where ever the smoke goes the particles go and they cause disease there, etc,). So by legalizing Marijuana, the Washington State government is effectively intentionally poisoning the population. This is particularly evil since many people have not done drugs and don't want to try drugs, and will become vulnerable to this heinous act of evil in spite of the fact that they will have done no drugs and no smoking.

Marijuana smokers are POISONING the air, and somebody should take the Washington State to court in the U.S. Supreme court for them legalizing this evil.


I'm not off topic, I'm just showing you a similar, easier to control case, a smoked drug which is a poison and cancer causing agent and not much else, which has the potential to cause or will cause many cancers, including in those who take no part in it.

This is far more evil and urgent than things like smog, which we already deal with anyway.



New Surgeon General's warning suggestion:

"Smoking cigarettes or marijuana kills innocent people who don't get a say in whether you smoke or not."
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Good afternoon. Not that people really care about the East Pac, but the TCR for TS Rosa is out.
And what does it mean?
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Quoting wxmod:
Top US Imports from China, 2011 ($ billion) *Calculated by USCBC
Electrical machinery and equipment, Power generation equipment, Toys, games, and sports equipment (they don't say this, but I assume computers are in the toy category), Furniture, Footwear and parts thereof, Apparel, knitted or crocheted, Apparel, not knitted or crocheted, Plastics and articles thereof, Iron, steel, Vehicles, excluding rail.

Here's what China also exports (smog). MODIS satellite image today.


I wonder what is the weight of all that soot the wind imports from China each year! Wow those are some serious aerosols.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Good afternoon. Not that people really care about the East Pac, but the TCR for TS Rosa is out.


I like watching them . Nicer looking storms than the atlantic in general and all importantly they are usually all going out to sea . They are cool to track and fine to wishcast
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In case anyone missed it,here is the first forecast by CSU for the 2013 Atlantic Hurricane season. No numbers until the April update but they talk about mainly how ENSO may be the key for the season.

Link
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Good afternoon. Not that people really care about the East Pac, but the TCR for TS Rosa is out.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Ok I'm really not sure what to make of this:

First severe wx chance:


IT DOES NOT APPEAR OUT OF THE QUESTION
THAT FORCING AND STRONG GENERALLY UNIDIRECTIONAL SHEAR COULD SUPPORT
THE EVOLUTION OF A SOUTHEASTWARD ADVANCING SQUALL LINE OVERNIGHT.
THIS WILL INCLUDE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WIND/HAIL...PERHAPS AN
ISOLATED TORNADO OR TWO
.
_________________________________________________ _

So then we move to 192 hrs and a potentially significant negatively tilted trough:


INTERACTION BETWEEN A BELT
OF WESTERLIES EMERGING FROM THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC...AND ANOTHER
EMERGING FROM THE SUBTROPICAL EASTERN PACIFIC...WILL LEAD TO A
STRENGTHENING UPPER JET ACROSS MUCH OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN TIER
OF THE U.S. LATE NEXT WEEK. THIS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY INCREASING
POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS IN CLOSER PROXIMITY
TO THE GULF OF MEXICO...WHICH COULD SUPPORT AN INCREASING RISK FOR
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS
...BUT PROBABLY NOT UNTIL AFTER THIS FORECAST
PERIOD.
_________________________________________________

Right behind this system we have another system, barely 2-3 days later, note the first trough still off the northeasteast coast:



This threatens to drop snow as far south as N GA but I cant tell if there is an appreciable severe wx threat, but it would stay in S GA/N FL anyway

_________________________________________________ ___

And then the whole thing turns into a great long lasting Nor'easter with LOTS of snow for the NE and Mid atlantic:



_________________________________________________ __

And before that is even finally done with the NE, a new system comes with storms for the SE and snow AGAIN for the Midatlantic and NE:



_________________________________________________ _

Amplified pattern much?

I hope the snow part is right!!!!!! I would really LOVE some snow!!
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120. wxmod
Quoting hydrus:
It would be very unusual for the Northern Philippines to be hit on the west by a eastward moving typhoon.



This is an image of the SE quarter of Bopha. The center of the typhoon is in the upper left corner of the image. The outside round edge of the storm has a 'dent' in it that corresponds to a band of polluted cirrus that goes through the Philippines. Check it out on my earlier posts. This pollution may allow Bopha to slide back toward the islands.

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Quoting wxmod:


Better hurry. This is what people do to trees.



I've always wanted a treehouse!
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Quoting RTSplayer:



It would take me a while to find the articles, but both of the things I have in mind were posted on "Phys.org" science articles.


There have actually been many articles posted over the past several years.

My memory of the facts:

The easiest was the discovery that plain copper kills the bacteria so effectively that it cannot grow on surfaces with any significant amount of copper present. All they have to do is coat door knobs, faucets, handles and other such surfaces in copper, and hospitals will immediately cut out a significant amount of the spreading.

My opinion:
(Further, with our ability to synthesize new compounds, I suggest the next step: the simple task of adding copper atom to the anti-biotic molecule or using a copper "chaperon" nano-particle (in the same pill or injection) in order to make the antibiotics more effective.)


Here is a similar article, but not the same one:

Taking the MR out of MRSA


I'm not even going to post one of the articles, except to say that it was so obvious I mocked the scientist studying it, because I'd already suggested it in the past, and thought people were already doing that, but they weren't. What was the strategy? Simply prescribe more than one antibiotic at the same time so that it can't adapt as quickly.

This one is probably unsafe for ingestion or injection, but might be useful for external or topical ointments or creams in the worst cases. Like high tech maggot therapy or something.

New antibiotics could come from a DNA binding compound that kills bacteria in 2 minutes


Newly engineered enzyme is a powerful staph antibiotic

It’s as if this chimeric lysin evolved on its own,” says Fischetti. “It resists neutralization by antibodies that treat it as a foreign invader and it is highly, highly effective.” By combining nature’s forces with technological power, Fischetti and his team have not only come up with an alternative way to defeat MRSA but have potentially breathed new life into drugs that are no longer effective against the organism. Used alone, ClyS is able to kill all staph species, including strains of MRSA, in both culture and in mice. But the researchers also found that when using ClyS together with the antibiotic oxacillin (an antibiotic to which MRSA is resistant), the synergistic effect allowed them to administer both in very low doses, allowing a previously shelved and inexpensive antibiotic to be used again.


While I can't find the exact article, there was another study or another article on the saem study, I forget, in which this compound was stated to kill all MRSA in the test subject using a scaled equivalent of 50milligrams of amoxicillion or oxicillion (I forget), which is far below what is currently administered for nearly any infection. The Lisin proteins allow the paired antibiotic to pretty much function as if the bacteria had no immune or resistant properties at all.

Allegedly, the problem is in scaling up the synthesis of the Lysin compounds, but I find that to be BS, since we have the tech to scale up anything organic. Just look at Vinegar and Yeast and similar things which are based on bacteria which we use all the time.


Thanks very much.. I gave a predisposition to not fight off staph very well.. and have always feared MRSA. My job takes me into sometimes bacterial polluted waters..and having had a friend lose a leg below the knee from MRSA.. arthroscopic surgeries.. I am wary big time.
Thanks again!
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Quoting indianrivguy:


well those are some big ones... I hope to visit out there next summer.. can't wait.. I want to see General Sherman!



Better hurry. This is what people do to trees.

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Quoting barbamz:
Strengthening Typhoon Bopha may strike Philippines second time, this time in north
By Jason Samenow
WP, Posted at 01:03 PM ET, 12/07/2012

Typhoon Pablo regains strength near Luzon
by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 12/07/2012 10:30 PM | Updated as of 12/08/2012 12:41 AM

It would be very unusual for the Northern Philippines to be hit on the west by a eastward moving typhoon.
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Quoting indianrivguy:


well those are some big ones... I hope to visit out there next summer.. can't wait.. I want to see General Sherman!


The Muir Woods a few miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge is also majestic. If anyone travels to the Bay area I would highly recommend spending half a day taking in all the beauty mother nature has to offer.
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Strengthening Typhoon Bopha may strike Philippines second time, this time in north
By Jason Samenow
WP, Posted at 01:03 PM ET, 12/07/2012

Typhoon Pablo regains strength near Luzon
by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 12/07/2012 10:30 PM | Updated as of 12/08/2012 12:41 AM

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Quoting indianrivguy:RTS, got a link for these cures? I am very interested in this. Thanks!



It would take me a while to find the articles, but both of the things I have in mind were posted on "Phys.org" science articles.


There have actually been many articles posted over the past several years.

My memory of the facts:

The easiest was the discovery that plain copper kills the bacteria so effectively that it cannot grow on surfaces with any significant amount of copper present. All they have to do is coat door knobs, faucets, handles and other such surfaces in copper, and hospitals will immediately cut out a significant amount of the spreading.

My opinion:
(Further, with our ability to synthesize new compounds, I suggest the next step: the simple task of adding copper atom to the anti-biotic molecule or using a copper "chaperon" nano-particle (in the same pill or injection) in order to make the antibiotics more effective.)


Here is a similar article, but not the same one:

Taking the MR out of MRSA


I'm not even going to post one of the articles, except to say that it was so obvious I mocked the scientist studying it, because I'd already suggested it in the past, and thought people were already doing that, but they weren't. What was the strategy? Simply prescribe more than one antibiotic at the same time so that it can't adapt as quickly.

This one is probably unsafe for ingestion or injection, but might be useful for external or topical ointments or creams in the worst cases. Like high tech maggot therapy or something.

New antibiotics could come from a DNA binding compound that kills bacteria in 2 minutes


Newly engineered enzyme is a powerful staph antibiotic

It%u2019s as if this chimeric lysin evolved on its own,%u201D says Fischetti. %u201CIt resists neutralization by antibodies that treat it as a foreign invader and it is highly, highly effective.%u201D By combining nature%u2019s forces with technological power, Fischetti and his team have not only come up with an alternative way to defeat MRSA but have potentially breathed new life into drugs that are no longer effective against the organism. Used alone, ClyS is able to kill all staph species, including strains of MRSA, in both culture and in mice. But the researchers also found that when using ClyS together with the antibiotic oxacillin (an antibiotic to which MRSA is resistant), the synergistic effect allowed them to administer both in very low doses, allowing a previously shelved and inexpensive antibiotic to be used again.


While I can't find the exact article, there was another study or another article on the saem study, I forget, in which this compound was stated to kill all MRSA in the test subject using a scaled equivalent of 50milligrams of amoxicillion or oxicillion (I forget), which is far below what is currently administered for nearly any infection. The Lisin proteins allow the paired antibiotic to pretty much function as if the bacteria had no immune or resistant properties at all.

Allegedly, the problem is in scaling up the synthesis of the Lysin compounds, but I find that to be BS, since we have the tech to scale up anything organic. Just look at Vinegar and Yeast and similar things which are based on bacteria which we use all the time.
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Quoting wxmod:
Top US Imports from China, 2011 ($ billion) *Calculated by USCBC
Electrical machinery and equipment, Power generation equipment, Toys, games, and sports equipment (they don't say this, but I assume computers are in the toy catagory), Furniture, Footwear and parts thereof, Apparel, knitted or crocheted, Apparel, not knitted or crocheted, Plastics and articles thereof, Iron, steel, Vehicles, excluding rail.

Here's what China also exports (smog). MODIS satellite image today.



Polution in China is so bad that their skyscrapers are airtight.
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Quoting LargoFl:
..GREAT QUESTION and I have been saying this all along, the earth does this normally..going from warm to cold all thru its long history, we humans alive today are just seeing it change back to its warm period...do we..humans help it along?..maybe with our pollution etc..but the warming itself..is normal if you study the earths past history

Climate doesn't just "change back to its warm period" because it wants to. It's not like an erratic ship going in circles because it lost its way.

Actual physical mechanisms push the equilibrium out of balance and over years and years (climatic timescales) the averages for temperature/precipitation/etc change in response to the lack of equilibrium. It doesn't happen because it happens, it happens because something makes it happen.
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Quoting washingtonian115:


Did you post this just for me?.lol.


Of course! :D
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109. wxmod
Top US Imports from China, 2011 ($ billion) *Calculated by USCBC
Electrical machinery and equipment, Power generation equipment, Toys, games, and sports equipment (they don't say this, but I assume computers are in the toy catagory), Furniture, Footwear and parts thereof, Apparel, knitted or crocheted, Apparel, not knitted or crocheted, Plastics and articles thereof, Iron, steel, Vehicles, excluding rail.

Here's what China also exports (smog). MODIS satellite image today.

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Quoting indianrivguy:


well those are some big ones... I hope to visit out there next summer.. can't wait.. I want to see General Sherman!

I have been out that way once but never got the chance to visit Yosemite. I would love to do that before I die. Maybe I can talk my sister into a car trip.
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Quoting kwgirl:
What can I say. I like trees.


well those are some big ones... I hope to visit out there next summer.. can't wait.. I want to see General Sherman!

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Well I'm off to do some errands.Tell Aussie I'll be waiting for my money in the mail Christmas time.Have a good after noon.
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Quoting indianrivguy:


wow... that's a loooong way to move.. from Cayo Hueso to Modoc Country :)
I've got just a 45 year old baby here in PA.... Metasequoia glyptostroboides (Dawn Redwood). My father planted it. Great gardener. My Mom too planted one 20 years later. Smallish. The 45 year old one is just amazing! I call it the 'Legacy tree'. And maybe it will be one someday:)  HA-ha, in 1,000 plus years or lots more! Just beautifully amazing... Lovely golden, deciduos color. Have got to love the survivors of this amazing planet. And the plants that grace this blue orb in space.
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New earthquake in Northern New Zealand. But a very deep one apparently.

An earthquake of preliminary magnitude 6.3 struck New Zealand's North Island today, according to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

The temblor's epicenter was 12 miles (19 km) southeast of the town of Tokoroa and 214 miles (345 km) north-northeast of the capital Wellington. It originated 103 miles (167 km) deep and struck at 7:19 a.m. local time Saturday (1819 UTC Friday), the USGS reports.

Quake measuring 5.8 rattles North Island
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Quoting LargoFl:
I guess it IS true..CO2 does warm the atmosphere and we release alot of it, so in effect we are helping to warm the planet..which melts the ice and the seas rise..and humans alive when it happens will have to deal with it...its sad but true....then again..humans alive 20,000 years ago..had to deal with the ice age and humans are still here...and getting ready to pollute other planets.....maybe we are a virus?..in the grand scheme of things..universe wise?



Only problem is that the ice age created a genetic bottleneck from which we barely survived. Could our civilization survive a similar hit?
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Quoting indianrivguy:


wow... that's a loooong way to move.. from Cayo Hueso to Modoc Country :)
What can I say. I like trees.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Ok I'm really not sure what to make of this:

First severe wx chance:


IT DOES NOT APPEAR OUT OF THE QUESTION
THAT FORCING AND STRONG GENERALLY UNIDIRECTIONAL SHEAR COULD SUPPORT
THE EVOLUTION OF A SOUTHEASTWARD ADVANCING SQUALL LINE OVERNIGHT.
THIS WILL INCLUDE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WIND/HAIL...PERHAPS AN
ISOLATED TORNADO OR TWO
.
_________________________________________________ _

So then we move to 192 hrs and a potentially significant negatively tilted trough:


INTERACTION BETWEEN A BELT
OF WESTERLIES EMERGING FROM THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC...AND ANOTHER
EMERGING FROM THE SUBTROPICAL EASTERN PACIFIC...WILL LEAD TO A
STRENGTHENING UPPER JET ACROSS MUCH OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN TIER
OF THE U.S. LATE NEXT WEEK. THIS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY INCREASING
POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS IN CLOSER PROXIMITY
TO THE GULF OF MEXICO...WHICH COULD SUPPORT AN INCREASING RISK FOR
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS
...BUT PROBABLY NOT UNTIL AFTER THIS FORECAST
PERIOD.
_________________________________________________

Right behind this system we have another system, barely 2-3 days later, note the first trough still off the northeasteast coast:



This threatens to drop snow as far south as N GA but I cant tell if there is an appreciable severe wx threat, but it would stay in S GA/N FL anyway

_________________________________________________ ___

And then the whole thing turns into a great long lasting Nor'easter with LOTS of snow for the NE and Mid atlantic:



_________________________________________________ __

And before that is even finally done with the NE, a new system comes with storms for the SE and snow AGAIN for the Midatlantic and NE:



_________________________________________________ _

Amplified pattern much?


Did you post this just for me?.lol.
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Quoting wxmod:
The human volcanoe: China today. MODIS satellite photo




At least its not Detroit.
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Quoting kwgirl:
I am not a scientist but I have an opinion like other things we all have in common. LOL The response to GW should be two pronged. Development and implementation of alternate fuel sources ASAP and start addressing the rise in sea levels by acknowledging it is happening faster than first thought and do some serious resconstruction and/or pull back of the coasts. When I lose my home I would like a nice little cottage under a Sequoia tree. Or at least close to one.


wow... that's a loooong way to move.. from Cayo Hueso to Modoc Country :)
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Quoting RTSplayer:



It's unremarkable compared to the existing normal expiration rate globally.

If you want to help the economy, do forced vaccinations for all strains of all possible diseases for a few years, instead of only vaccinating a few strains of the flu and 3 or 4 other things like they do now, and the results would then be that most diseases would go extinct and save TRILLIONS world wide in medical expenses, and greatly increase the average human life expectancy and quality of life.


Governments don't do that because they actually WANT high expiration rates among the elderly and disabled, in order to remove them from social programs. I find this appalling, but true.

If you visit certain other science sites, you will find many ultra-liberals (who are often otherwise very intelligent people,) actually want forced birth rates to one per woman, and forced world population decrease by withholding vaccines and medicine and other such things.


If they vaccinated everyone and made most of the diseases go extinct, people would be much healthier for most of their lives and would visit hospitals and especially emergency rooms far less often.

Think of all the people would wouldn't miss work as often for flus and tummy aches and such.

Currently, we literally vaccinate and medicate pets and livestock better than human beings, because we want the livestock to live long enough to be edible, but governments want the sick and elderly to die so they get off the payroll.


MRSA and VRSA?

The CURE has been known by the scientific community for at least 4 years now. There are two approaches which WORK and kill the bacteria before it can adapt, and neither of them need any new technology or medicines. Yet neither has been implemented. Why?


According to the CIA World Factbook, as of July, 2005, there were approximately 6,446,131,400 people on the planet, and the death rate was approximately 8.78 deaths per 1,000 people a year. According to our nifty deskto calculator, that works out to roughly 56,597,034 people leaving us every year. That's about a 155,000 a day.
Still, more people are being born than dying. The population growth rate is hovering around 1.14%, which doesn't seem like much, but last year that was (back to the calculator!) 73,485,898 more mouths to feed.


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That's out-dated since it was a low estimate, and we've actually already passed 7 billion since then.

By the time 2030 rolls around 100 million deaths per year will probably be normal expiration rate, because we're not likely to get the most radically advanced technologies to extend life before then anyway, and the technologies which have been proposed tend to work best over a person's entire life span. Which means death rates will mostly stay about the same curve up until then/em>




The article is speaking of deaths caused by climate change, not deaths by all causes. If there are more people, common sence would tell you that there will be more deaths.


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Satellite photo of the Himalaya(top) and your computer being made(everything else). MODIS today

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Off topic tidbit...

Anyone notice the decent sized space rock forecasted to come in very close proximity to us on the 15th of February???

Link

2012 DA14 will pass within .09 Lunar Distance from earth!

Can't fine the article I read on it, but here is some info I remember from it:

This asteroid will pass close enough to be seen through a normal backyard telescope.

It will also come through the GPS satellite ring possibly impacting one.

It is not currently expected to hit Earth, but if it did, it would not cause significant damage unless it hit a population center (Pacific Ocean impact is most likely if it does become inbound, given the current forecast)
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Quoting RTSplayer:






MRSA and VRSA?

The CURE has been known by the scientific community for at least 4 years now. There are two approaches which WORK and kill the bacteria before it can adapt, and neither of them need any new technology or medicines. Yet neither has been implemented. Why?




RTS, got a link for these cures? I am very interested in this. Thanks!
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
After a brief warmup, it appears the Nino regions of the East Pacific are forecasted to continue to cool

So basically El nino hides out this winter, comes back to ruin severe weather season, and leaves by summer....
grrrrrr:



Appears statistical models have done better lately.....





From December Monthly Ocean Briefing
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Quoting weatherbro:
Why are some models forecasting Bopha to make a loop-de-loop in the South China Sea rather then head straight northeast despite a persistant east Asian tough?


Trough isn't deep enough (possibly anyway) and so it doesn't push the storm out. Then a high behind it pushes the storm back south and west (possibly).

Models may be a bit wrong. Maybe the storm hits the Philippines again before the loop happens, or during the second part of the loop, if it isn't as tight as the forecast shows, all assuming it happens at all.


Plus the model could just be out to lunch.

Data isn't as good over there because we don't have as much instrumentation as in the U.S. so the error bars on any forecast are a lot bigger.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
There was a tornado in Uruguay and supercells in Argentina yesterday?

Video of a tornado in Dolores


Also, a rare, destructive tornado in Auckland, New Zealand, which killed three people and put seven in hospital.

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Quoting Jedkins01:
Looking at the graph Dr. Masters put up regarding climate extremes, it looks like the first half of this century, extremes were actually on the slow decrease up to 1970, and then began to increase after up to present.

With that said I wonder, is this because there is some expected delay between climate change from CO2 and expected resulting extremes? Or is there some other reason for this such as natural shift in weather patterns? Or a combination of both? I'd like to hear some responses on this...

Then, I also ask this question, lets say hypothetically, that all current climate change was entirely natural, and that scientists found proof that it will continue to do so, and there isn't much we could do to change that. How then, would humanity respond, or how should we respond? Would we find ways to live in such extremes, as cultures have in parts of the world who have already lived with and learned to adapt with extremes throughout their genetic history
I am not a scientist but I have an opinion like other things we all have in common. LOL The response to GW should be two pronged. Development and implementation of alternate fuel sources ASAP and start addressing the rise in sea levels by acknowledging it is happening faster than first thought and do some serious resconstruction and/or pull back of the coasts. When I lose my home I would like a nice little cottage under a Sequoia tree. Or at least close to one.
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So Bopha just decided to rapidly intensify and become a cat 3 again.
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The human volcanoe: China today. MODIS satellite photo


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Quoting percylives:


Jennifer Francis, Professor, Institute of Marine and Coastal Studies, Rutgers University, presents a very good argument they are connected and we are witnessing it already.

The Short Version

The Long Version


I am alone in the house, not even the cat. I clicked on both links to open in a new tab and thought it was text. A minute later someone VERY close starts talking to me.. I almost jumped out of my chair.. it was one of your videos starting.. a blonde moment..
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Quoting washingtonian115:
Looks like another person will have read the post and fell on blind eyes...The longer range for the next 10 days(which will be the first half of December) will be mild for my area with some shots of cold air but for the most part the highs will be in the 50's and 60's.


Opps...I meant the 2nd half of the month(especially toward the Winter Solstice) Link.:)
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Why are some models forecasting Bopha to make a loop-de-loop in the South China Sea rather then head straight northeast despite a persistant east Asian tough?
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Quoting goosegirl1:
Not to change the subject (we can always get back to that :)) but this concerns me. Link

Most of us do not realize how lucky we were to be born in a developed nation with a strong infrastructure and government help when needed. We would rather take shots at the opposite political party than realize that we are all floating in the same boat- there is no America, British, African, First Nation... there is only human.



It's unremarkable compared to the existing normal expiration rate globally.

If you want to help the economy, do forced vaccinations for all strains of all possible diseases for a few years, instead of only vaccinating a few strains of the flu and 3 or 4 other things like they do now, and the results would then be that most diseases would go extinct and save TRILLIONS world wide in medical expenses, and greatly increase the average human life expectancy and quality of life.


Governments don't do that because they actually WANT high expiration rates among the elderly and disabled, in order to remove them from social programs. I find this appalling, but true.

If you visit certain other science sites, you will find many ultra-liberals (who are often otherwise very intelligent people,) actually want forced birth rates to one per woman, and forced world population decrease by withholding vaccines and medicine and other such things.


If they vaccinated everyone and made most of the diseases go extinct, people would be much healthier for most of their lives and would visit hospitals and especially emergency rooms far less often.

Think of all the people would wouldn't miss work as often for flus and tummy aches and such.

Currently, we literally vaccinate and medicate pets and livestock better than human beings, because we want the livestock to live long enough to be edible, but governments want the sick and elderly to die so they get off the payroll.


MRSA and VRSA?

The CURE has been known by the scientific community for at least 4 years now. There are two approaches which WORK and kill the bacteria before it can adapt, and neither of them need any new technology or medicines. Yet neither has been implemented. Why?


According to the CIA World Factbook, as of July, 2005, there were approximately 6,446,131,400 people on the planet, and the death rate was approximately 8.78 deaths per 1,000 people a year. According to our nifty desktop calculator, that works out to roughly 56,597,034 people leaving us every year. That's about a 155,000 a day.
Still, more people are being born than dying. The population growth rate is hovering around 1.14%, which doesn't seem like much, but last year that was (back to the calculator!) 73,485,898 more mouths to feed.


source


That's out-dated since it was a low estimate, and we've actually already passed 7 billion since then.

By the time 2030 rolls around 100 million deaths per year will probably be normal expiration rate, because we're not likely to get the most radically advanced technologies to extend life before then anyway, and the technologies which have been proposed tend to work best over a person's entire life span. Which means death rates will mostly stay about the same curve up until then.
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Quoting bappit:
Arctic Wildfire Soot Darkening Greenland Ice Sheet

"Now, adding to the darkening of the surface that comes with more meltwater is the soot from Arctic tundra wildfires, another phenomenon that seems to be increasing with global warming. As these wildfires rage, atmospheric currents carry their smoke plumes over other areas, including Greenland, as the CALIPSO images show. The soot drops out from these plumes and darkens the ice sheet, exacerbating the feedback cycle of melting."


Bappit,
Feedback cycles is what makes global warming such a huge, urgent issue. One thing leads to another. CO2 goes up, makes wildfires that melt Greenland ice and permafrost releasing methane, which causes more greenhouse effect. Also exaserbating the situation: the human volcano of coal smoke coming out of China and India, 24/7/365 for the last 20 years.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
After a brief warmup, it appears the Nino regions of the East Pacific are forecasted to continue to cool

So basically El nino hides out this winter, comes back to ruin severe weather season, and leaves by summer....
grrrrrr:

I think that the rules have changed with ice melt. It may or maynot be a significant change... but still one that changes what we were taught to think. Science does not know what it has not yet studied with rising sea water levels or how they interact with atmosphere. This is just a new beginning that needs an open mind for a different approach from what we have seen in historical past. AND no... I am not a scientist. Just an observation.
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Iinteractive Blitz Map

The map shows every bomb dropped on London during "the Blitz" in WWII
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