Very warm November assures 2012 will be warmest year in U.S. history

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:39 PM GMT on December 07, 2012

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The heat is on again in the U.S. After recording its first cooler-than-average month in sixteen months during October, the U.S. heated up considerably in November, notching its 20th warmest November since 1895, said NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) in their latest State of the Climate report. The warm November virtually assures that 2012 will be the warmest year on record in the U.S. The year-to-date period of January - November has been by far the warmest such period on record for the contiguous U.S.--a remarkable 1.0°F above the previous record. During the 11-month period, 18 states were record warm and an additional 24 states were top ten warm. The December 2011 - November 2012 period was the warmest such 12-month period on record for the contiguous U.S., and the eight warmest 12-month periods since record keeping began in 1895 have all ended during 2012. December 2012 would have to be 1°F colder than our coldest December on record (set in 1983) to prevent the year 2012 from being the warmest in U.S. history. This is meteorologically impossible, given the recent December heat in the U.S. As wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt reported, an early-December heat wave this week set records for warmest December temperature on record in seven states. December 2012 is on pace to be a top-20% warmest December on record in the U.S.

November 2012 was the 8th driest November on record for the U.S., and twenty-two states had top-ten driest Novembers. The area of the contiguous U.S. experiencing moderate-to-exceptional drought grew from 59% on November 6 to 62% on December 6. This is the largest area of the U.S. in drought since 1954.


Figure 1. Historical temperature ranking for the U.S. for November 2012. Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming had top-ten warmest Novembers, while only North Carolina had a top-ten coldest November. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).


Figure 2. Historical temperature ranking for the U.S. for the January - November period. Eighteen states were record warm, and an additional 24 states were top ten warm. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).

Most extreme January - November period on record
The year-to-date January - November period was the most extreme on record in the contiguous U.S., according to NOAA's U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI), which tracks the percentage area of the contiguous U.S. experiencing top-10% and bottom-10% extremes in temperature, precipitation, and drought. The CEI was 46% in January - November, more than double the average of 20%. A record 86% of the contiguous U.S. had maximum temperatures that were in the warmest 10% historically during the first eleven months of 2012, and 71% of the U.S. of the U.S. had warm minimum temperatures in the top 10%--2nd highest on record. The percentage area of the U.S. experiencing top-10% drought conditions was 32%, which was the 4th greatest since 1910. Only droughts in the Dust Bowl year of 1934, and during 1954 and 1956, were more extreme for the January - November period. Heavy 1-day downpours have been below average so far in 2012, though, with 9% of nation experiencing a top-10% extreme, compared to the average of 10%.


Figure 3. NOAA's U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI) for January - November shows that 2012 had the most extreme first eleven months of the year on record, with 46% of the contiguous U.S. experiencing top-10% extreme weather-more than double the average of 20%.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Also. It's our elected represenatives who write the tax code. They have the power to tighten up the tax code to eliminate deductions whenever they choose.


It's gone beyond deductions.


American corporations evade taxes by simply expatriating their "official" main office to Sweden, and the way the tax code works, in most cases they pay zero to the U.S. government, even if the vast majority of the income is from operations on U.S. soil, and even if they don't actually have any important staff in their "official" main offices in Sweden.


One reason this matters is because they have done everything matching the "spirit" of a treason law, except the technicality of it, and they are now outside the boundaries of U.S. law, and have sold the tax revenues of our purchases to a foreign nation.

They made their revenues using U.S. technology, workers, consumers, and infrastructure, but then refuse to pay their taxes, and currently the U.S. government has no legal course to collect.

If that isn't a crime it should be, and the tax code should be modified so that they pay taxes based on the percent of revenue earned on U.S. soil, not by the revenues of some false corporate office which can be moved around the world to support anybody they sell themselves to.

However, one should note that this law might even be impossible to enforce, because of the current day interpretation of the 4th amendment effectively giving a person or group a right to commit a crime as long as they don't get caught, since you can't look for evidence unless you already have the evidence.
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:


That's the best you got?
You don't think wealthy lefties avail themselves of legal tax breaks?
Get real.



Never said that at all.
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Also. It's our elected represenatives who write the tax code. They have the power to tighten up the tax code to eliminate deductions whenever they choose.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Legal and moral (i.e. should or should not be legal,) are two different things.

You should watch "Liar Liar." You might learn something truly profound there at the end.


That's the best you got?
You don't think wealthy lefties avail themselves of legal tax breaks?
Get real.
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Imported from the previous blog.

I didn't get the opportunity to reply to this, this morning. It's slow now and I'm not at work so here goes. I posted this, this morning.


Quoting PensacolaDoug:

You don't understand human nature. The people who are driven to succeed are motivated by the opportunities to create and amass great wealth. Take it away and the incentive is gone. People who get stuff for nothing or very little effort, lose motivation to improve their lot.


Nea Replied


I agree with you, Doug. The 1950s--when the top personal income tax rate was 91%--were a dismal time in America, with no one motivated to do anything. Sure, it was a prosperous decade for most Americans, as we had the highest standard of living in the world, because American workers made the highest wages in the world, and enjoyed the best benefits and the longest vacations in the world. And, yes, most of the world's high tech R&D was in America, and we made the best cars and everything else in the world. And, to be sure, America's middle class and public school system and military and manufacturing base were the envy of the world. And, okay, we built the best highway system in the world at that time, and unemployment was at record low levels then. But aside from all that, the nation's wealthiest were clearly de-incentivized, for no one was able to create and amass great wealth. I mean, aside from all those who were.

This reply by Nea is intended to sway the ill-informed.

Here's the real deal. Nobody paid the the 91% "top rate". The extremely wealthy, were able to expliot tax breaks written into the tax code to avoid the highest rates. Notice I didn't use the prejorative term "loop-hole". The term "loop-hole" implies some sleazy underhanded accounting 'trick' to avoid paying what you owe. There is no such thing as a "loop-hole". Your deductions, business or personal, are either legal or illegal. It truly is, as simple as that.
Furthermore, the business enviornment of the 1950's bears no resemblance to current economics. In the 1950's we had defeated the Axis powers the previous decade and reconstruction of Europe and Japan was in full swing. America got the vast majority of the contracts and America had a manufacturing base that the rest of the world could only envy. Money flowed like water. To compare the 1950's to now, is not comparing "apples to apples". On the surface Nea's post sounds "reasonable", "informed" even, and he's smart enough to know it. If you dig a little deeper, you'll realize it's an attemptto mislead the underinformed.

Sorry for the rant.


Legal and moral (i.e. should or should not be legal,) are two different things.

You should watch "Liar Liar." You might learn something truly profound there at the end.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Re-Engineering the Earth


Yay. Does nothing for ocean acidifiction.

Acid rain was caused by sulfur.

All they'd need to do to pump that much sulfur in the air is remove scrubbers from our factories and coal power plants.

however, if you do this, it will kill the majority of freshwater fisheries, further acidify the oceans, reduce human life expectancy both directly and indirectly (but nobody cares about that apprently,) and in general poison the environment, and deface all buildings.

Moreover, since it will be doing nothing for CO2 itself, the CO2 will continue contributing to ocean acidification. After all, geo-engineering by spraying sulfur compounds in the air implies that business as usual regarding fossil fuels will be continued indefinitely. Since scientists are already concerned that the destruction from ocean acidification will become critical to many shellfish and other oceanic life sometime around 2030 to 2050 even with business as usual, then filling the atmosphere with sulfur will only speed up this process. Now they are talking about what may potentially be extinction level events for entire sections of the food web, even without the sulfur. What do you intend anyone, or anything, to eat after a few decades of additional CO2 plus sulfur?!

Acidification will probably cause more trouble in the next 30 years, if the science is good and can be trusted anyway, than the "climate change" aspects caused by pollution.

Shall we treat a stab wound by administering potassium cyanide?

Adding more acid to the atmosphere might cool things down a bit, but it will just acidify the oceans that much faster.

We've destroyed the food web from both the bottom up and the top down, so that 90% of apex predator population has been wiped out in the entire pacific (oriental fining of sharks probably contributes some to this,) and yet the total amount of aquatic life in the middle of the food web has also declined, with other food fisheries such as tuna in massive decline.

How much worse do we want it to be?

What are we going to do whilst everything is dying?


Why is it that nobody seems to genuinely care about the future cost to humans?

Sulfuric acid is only going to screw the environment up in another way. They already tried sulfuric acid (by default by not having clean technology,) and it causes obscene damage to everything.

Edit:

admittedly, I neglected to mention how much acidification will happen if the carbon bombs in the arctic are released, which is far more than humanity has caused directly.

The point is not to try to treat one poison by administering another, but to actually solve the root problem, which is pollution.
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Imported from the previous blog.

I didn't get the opportunity to reply to this, this morning. It's slow now and I'm not at work so here goes. I posted this, this morning.


Quoting PensacolaDoug:

You don't understand human nature. The people who are driven to succeed are motivated by the opportunities to create and amass great wealth. Take it away and the incentive is gone. People who get stuff for nothing or very little effort, lose motivation to improve their lot.


Nea Replied


I agree with you, Doug. The 1950s--when the top personal income tax rate was 91%--were a dismal time in America, with no one motivated to do anything. Sure, it was a prosperous decade for most Americans, as we had the highest standard of living in the world, because American workers made the highest wages in the world, and enjoyed the best benefits and the longest vacations in the world. And, yes, most of the world's high tech R&D was in America, and we made the best cars and everything else in the world. And, to be sure, America's middle class and public school system and military and manufacturing base were the envy of the world. And, okay, we built the best highway system in the world at that time, and unemployment was at record low levels then. But aside from all that, the nation's wealthiest were clearly de-incentivized, for no one was able to create and amass great wealth. I mean, aside from all those who were.

This reply by Nea is intended to sway the ill-informed.

Here's the real deal. Nobody paid the the 91% "top rate". The extremely wealthy, were able to exploit tax breaks written into the tax code to avoid the highest rates. Notice I didn't use the prejorative term "loop-hole". The term "loop-hole" implies some sleazy underhanded accounting 'trick' to avoid paying what you owe. There is no such thing as a "loop-hole". Your deductions, business or personal, are either legal or illegal. It truly is, as simple as that.
Furthermore, the business enviornment of the 1950's bears no resemblance to current economics. In the 1950's we had defeated the Axis powers the previous decade and reconstruction of Europe and Japan was in full swing. America got the vast majority of the contracts and America had a manufacturing base that the rest of the world could only envy. Money flowed like water. To compare the 1950's to now, is not comparing "apples to apples". On the surface Nea's post sounds "reasonable", "informed" even, and he's smart enough to know it. If you dig a little deeper, you'll realize it's an attempt to mislead the underinformed.

Sorry for the rant.
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While the NAO is one of the more significant determinants for a particular season, the ENSO plays an even bigger role. This was already taken into consideration for my first 2013 forecast. A majority of the models predict that waters in the equatorial Pacific will remain very steady, with a possible slow decline by July-August-September of next year. If an El Niño happens to develop, which seems unlikely at this point, wind shear will likely be above average across a portion of the Atlantic next year, limiting tropical cyclone formation. Likewise, if we get La Niña, which seems even more unlikely, conditions may become more favorable than currently anticipated. We'll have to see.

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The North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) has been negative for most of this fall and is forecast to plummet over the coming days. The phase of the NAO, positive or negative, generally gives great insight for what to expect in the upcoming hurricane season. A negative North Atlantic Oscillation promotes a weak Icelandic low and in turn a weak Bermuda high, which is able to spread farther westward without the presence of deep troughs fueled by an intense Icelandic low. Many historic hurricane landfalls have occurred during this phase because of the sprawling high that directs the storms towards the United States coastline. On the flip-side, a positive NAO promotes a strong Icelandic low and Bermuda high, but positioned farther east, allowing for storms to recurve in the central Atlantic and between Bermuda and the coastline of North Carolina more easily. In addition to dictating steering currents, the NAO can affect trade winds and sea surface temperatures. A strong Bermuda high promotes faster trade winds across the Main Development Region, making it hard for a system to become organized (2012 is a great example). These faster than average trade winds cause the surface of the ocean in the central and eastern Atlantic to cool through a process called evaporational cooling. Less fuel = less storms.

As it appears right now, the 2013 season will feature a negative (positive) NAO. As aforementioned, this promotes warmer than average (colder than average) sea surface temperatures, slower than average (faster than average) trade winds, and a weaker, yet more sprawled out (stronger, yet farther east) Bermuda high. This is a plus for tropical cyclone activity.

There's plenty of time for everything to change, however, so nothing in this post is set in stone. But looking at the surface temperature anomaly map, you can probably tell where we'll see a lot of storms next season. As it stands, my first predictions for the season call for:

- 15 to 19 named storms
- 8 to 11 hurricanes
- 2 to 4 major hurricanes

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Quoting TropicalStormIsaac:



See my blog.

At least one of your statements is totally misinformed, and the other is missing the point.
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My local forecast blog
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Quoting yoboi:



and


Don't bite. He's trolling.
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270. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Philippines Atmospheric Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #20
TYPHOON PABLO (BOPHA)
11:00 AM PhST December 8 2012
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Typhoon "PABLO" has maintained its strength and is now moving closer to western section of northern and central Luzon

At 10:00 AM PhST, Typhoon Pablo [972 hPa] located at 17.0°N 117.1°E or 320 km northwest of Dagupan City has 10 minute sustained winds of 70 knots gusting up to 90 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving northeast 4 knots.

Signal Warnings
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Signal Warning #1
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Luzon region
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1. Ilocos Sur
2. La Union
3. Pangasinan
4. Zambales

Additional Information
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Residents living in low lying and mountainous areas under public storm warning signal #1 are alerted against possible flash floods and landslides.

Estimated rainfall amount is from 15-25 mm per hour (heavy to intense) within the 400 km diameter of the typhoon.

Fishing boats and other sea vessels are advised not to venture out into the seaboards of northern and central Luzon and the western seaboard of southern Luzon.

The public and the disaster coordinating councils concerned are advised to take appropriate actions and watch for the next bulletin to be issued at 5 p.m. today.
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269. yoboi
Quoting OldLeatherneck:

Thanks for reminding me of how the "TEA PARTY" is such a perfect example of the actions of "stupid people in large groups."



and
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My, my, look at that storm.

Not nearly as symmetric as it had been.

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267. beell
undersestimation is a terrible thing.

never undersestimate the power of large stupid people in small groups?
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266. wxmod
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Re-Engineering the Earth


"Ideas: Energy & Environment July/August 2009 ATLANTIC MAGAZINE

Re-Engineering the Earth

As the threat of global warming grows more urgent, a few scientists are considering radical—and possibly extremely dangerous—schemes for reengineering the climate by brute force. Their ideas are technologically plausible and quite cheap. So cheap, in fact, that a rich and committed environmentalist could act on them tomorrow. And that’s the scariest part. "
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Quoting Patrap:



Never undersestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.


LoL

Agreed.
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Never undersestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.




LoL

U betcha...
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263. wxmod
Quoting Patrap:
There are now 14 days until the 2012 Winter Solstice


Spring is just around the corner.
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Quoting wxmod:


But I hope you do know about David Keith and Steven Salter.


Re-Engineering the Earth
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Send relief for the calamity in Mindanao,Philippines.



ReliefWEB

Philippines: Typhoon Bopha (Pablo) Affected Population (as of 05 Dec 2012 12:00 Noon)

MAP from UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, MapAction

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Published on Dec 5, 2012 by inquirernews
Typhoon 'Pablo' pounds the Mindanao and Visayas regions, leaving a trail of death and damage.


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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
That's the problem with democracy. The fundamental belief that the majority is always right is a lie


Never undersestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.






Thanks for reminding me of how the "TEA PARTY" is such a perfect example of the actions of "stupid people in large groups."
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There are now 14 days until the 2012 Winter Solstice
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Whatever.

How is nature killing 500 people more important than drinkers killing 10,000 people?

and it's not that I don't care about the people who died in the storm.

It's just humans do worse things every day, and it's literally promoted by the majority of the population.


I'm not ashamed of my self.

I'm ashamed of every person who smokes or drinks, and especially the people who sell this crap, as well as all the people who voted to legalize or fail to ban them.



Smokers and drinkers kill innocents all the time, including their own family members.

Children get no choice in whether their parents smoke or drink, and they are forced to inhale their parents' poisonous smoke in their own homes, or tolerate their drunken tirades. It's child abuse on a global scale on both counts.

How many people are killed but natural forces a year, how many people were killed in Haiti, Japan, Chile, New Zealand, Italy from the quakes and tsunami. Japan lost 25,000 innocent people from the quake and tsunami. Haiti lost 220,000 innocent people. Tropical Storm Washi killed 1200 innocent people in the same area that was hit by Bopha. In china every year about 90,000 people a year are killed in car accidents. To say Bopha is a noob at killing was very insensitive and Aussie very much had the right to say what he said. Maybe you need to read what you said to understand why Aussie said what he said and why he put you on his ignore list. Aussie is right, people that drive drunk and kill innocent people should rot in gaol. If it wasn't for the invention of Alcohol, we would probably all not be here today.

Gotta go, going to go check on the bush fire burning in the National Park not far from me. It's a hot windy day here. Stay safe all.
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257. wxmod
Quoting Minnemike:
have you Also been analyzing multiple layers of atmosphere like a met would, you know, the Actual data analysis that indicates How a tropical system will behave in it's environment?
in all my searches about your conspiratorial accusations that agencies control (CONTROL) weather via air traffic, i have seen Zero evidence of successful control over the course of a tropical system. that claim you make lacks sense from every analytical standpoint, objectively, unless you can produce anything that exposes this phenomenal supposed skill humans have at sending astronomical amount of joules to the place of their desire.
yeah, weather can indeed be impacted by human activity, but heck no we DO NOT have "control" over the paths of complexly massive tropical cyclones.
you don't even spell Bopha right.

..and surprise, the image you posted was Not a 'rocket chemtrail' but just a ridge of cirrus. if you did Any atmospheric analysis beyond your interpretive picture posting, you would understand that.


David Keith recently did an interview where he said that he had dumped a ton of sulphate in the stratosphere while experimenting with geoengineering and many others were working on the same type of program. Did you read the interview. I posted that and a link a few days ago. You probably didn't. He also said geoengineering the whole planet would be extremely cheap, way cheaper than changing our fossil fuel consumptive ways. Now, it seems to me, if changing the whole planet is cheap and can be done with sulphates, modifying a hurricane must be super bargain basement priced.
Minnemike, I don't know who you are or what credentials you have. The same holds true in reverse. But I hope you do know about David Keith and Steven Salter.
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wxmod, what offends some of us is this mixing of conspiracy theory alongside the Actual human impacts on the environment, and these bogus claims based on misrepresented evidence, which amounts to a lack of respect for the meteorological sciences.

claiming that cirrus clouds, or even Actual contrails can have the impacts you state on a tropical cyclone is absurd at best, dangerously misleading at worst. you have no right to be stating the things you do, such that thin upper level wisps of clouds are driving thousands of cubic miles of convective atmosphere. that is offensive to hard working mets who have built an extensive education trying to understand thermodynamics and fluid systems. you can't just post a visual satellite photo and disseminate the equivalent information as full data analysis performed by a met..
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Fortunately for the Philippines, Bopha is not yet hooking as hard east as the wobble a few frames ago suggested it might, but it does seem to have made a net turn by about 15 to 30 degrees to the east compared to the previous motion.

It does look like the trough will give it a bit more of a nudge, and then pass it by, which is probably not a good thing if it gets much farther east of where it is now.
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Quoting pottery:

AMEN !

You said that very well. I would have been far less Diplomatic.

I just said what I felt I needed to say. Why dance around the subject when you can punch them right in the nose with an opinion
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Two very different forecasts for Bopha.

PAGASA....



JTWC....

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

30 to 40 knots of wind shear isn't exactly stagnant.


There is only 1 stagnant thing in the place. And It ain't the air.
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Bopha

RGB Loop

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WINTER WEATHER UPDATE
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Southwest Alaska snowstorm




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Quoting wxmod:


According to the map you posted, Bopha is still in stagnant air.

30 to 40 knots of wind shear isn't exactly stagnant.

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248. wxmod
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Bopha should continue to weaken steadily as it is in an environment of moderate shear, which is increasing:



According to the map you posted, Bopha is still in stagnant air.
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246. wxmod
Quoting pottery:

Actually, I am another 'we'.
You keep posting these images of the clouds, and you keep suggesting that they are some kind of Plot to do something or the other. I'm not sure what.

Have you any reason for doing this?
Have you any idea what it is, and can you give me a credible explanation?

With thanks.


Can you give me a credible explanation for why it bothers you hearing my viewpoint? The first devices installed on aircraft to enhance contrails became widely used in the 1930s. Weather modification experiments funded by large corporations began in the 1940s. Geoengineering experiments have been conducted in the open atmosphere for many years. Billionairs fund weather modification, as do local governments and water companies, because it is cheap and effective. Tell me please. Do you still use your 1940s encyclopedia, or do you think times have changed? The 'reason" I am here is because weather includes modification. It's just that simple.
I'm not trying to offend anyone. I think the technology is interesting.
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245. Skyepony (Mod)
Bopha on MIMIC.

937mb
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Bopha should continue to weaken steadily as it is in an environment of moderate shear, which is increasing:

is that a chemtrail map?
;)
ok, i'll stop making 'last snide comment' comments.. i mean, let's be honest ;)
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Bopha should continue to weaken steadily as it is in an environment of moderate shear, which is increasing:

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Quoting wxmod:



I've been watching Bopah and the surroundings all day. The weather modification going on there is fairly obvious. Who is doing it and what their intentions are is not so obvious.
Who is the "we" you refer to? I only see you, one person who thinks you own the word "sensible".
have you Also been analyzing multiple layers of atmosphere like a met would, you know, the Actual data analysis that indicates How a tropical system will behave in it's environment?
in all my searches about your conspiratorial accusations that agencies control (CONTROL) weather via air traffic, i have seen Zero evidence of successful control over the course of a tropical system. that claim you make lacks sense from every analytical standpoint, objectively, unless you can produce anything that exposes this phenomenal supposed skill humans have at sending astronomical amount of joules to the place of their desire.
yeah, weather can indeed be impacted by human activity, but heck no we DO NOT have "control" over the paths of complexly massive tropical cyclones.
you don't even spell Bopha right.

..and surprise, the image you posted was Not a 'rocket chemtrail' but just a ridge of cirrus. if you did Any atmospheric analysis beyond your interpretive picture posting, you would understand that.
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241. wxmod
Looks like Bopha is being knocked out of commission by the rocket chemtrail I posted satellite photos of earlier today.

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Quoting wxmod:



I've been watching Bopah and the surroundings all day. The weather modification going on there is fairly obvious. Who is doing it and what their intentions are is not so obvious.
Who is the "we" you refer to? I only see you, one person who thinks you own the word "sensible".

Actually, I am another 'we'.
You keep posting these images of the clouds, and you keep suggesting that they are some kind of Plot to do something or the other. I'm not sure what.

Have you any reason for doing this?
Have you any idea what it is, and can you give me a credible explanation?

With thanks.
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Quoting pottery:

AMEN !

You said that very well. I would have been far less Diplomatic.

Well, I am naughty by nature, so I make a real effort to be nice.
See you all tomorrow.
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Quoting RobDaHood:
Okay RTS,
I'm pretty sure in your first rant on this topic that you apologized for being off topic, although after so many rants I can't be sure I remember correctly. We all know now that you are against smoking, alcohol, and pot. Fine and dandy, but that has nothing at all to do with the blog topic and you are clearly in violation of the blog rules. You have the right to rant, but if you want to do so, please, do it on your own blog. All you are accomplishing here is annoying a lot of folks and getting placed on ignore list.

If you have a problem with pot smoke poisoning the air, I suggest you take it up with the DEA. They burn a lot of the stuff every year.

I've been patient, probably more so than most others here, but any further post on this topic will be reported to Admin.

AMEN !

You said that very well. I would have been far less Diplomatic.
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Widespread Devastation Found in 2010 Amazon Megadrought

by Eli Kintisch on 7 December 2012, 6:27 PM

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA—A megadrought that struck the Amazon in 2010 devastated millions of hectares of the rainforest, new data presented here suggest. The results shed new light on a scientific debate over the effects of such recent climatic events.

Initial data released today at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union indicate that as many as one in 25 trees died in areas with the most severe water scarcity. The findings also suggest that previous techniques using satellites to measure drought stress in rainforests may be missing dire impacts of a warming global climate, which many scientists believe will cause more droughts in those critical habitats.

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Bopha is still a potent typhoon that will affect the Northern Philippines. Can some people just focus back on the topic of the blog and weather? Because what is going on now isn't fun to me.
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Quoting Minnemike:
do you have ideas sensible ideas that We don't know about???
and now my snideness draws to a close for the eve, later all..


I've been watching Bopah and the surroundings all day. The weather modification going on there is fairly obvious. Who is doing it and what their intentions are is not so obvious.
Who is the "we" you refer to? I only see you, one person who thinks you own the word "sensible".
Member Since: October 4, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 1758
Quoting RTSplayer:


Whatever.

How is nature killing 500 people more important than drinkers killing 10,000 people?

and it's not that I don't care about the people who died in the storm.

It's just humans do worse things every day, and it's literally promoted by the majority of the population.


I'm not ashamed of my self.

I'm ashamed of every person who smokes or drinks, and especially the people who sell this crap, as well as all the people who voted to legalize or fail to ban them.



Smokers and drinkers kill innocents all the time, including their own family members.

Children get no choice in whether their parents smoke or drink, and they are forced to inhale their parents' poisonous smoke in their own homes, or tolerate their drunken tirades. It's child abuse on a global scale on both counts.

Just get back on topic. You've probably already been added to a countless number of people's ignore lists and reported many more times.
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Bopha's backing into the northern Philippines:



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