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Typhoon Bopha hits the Philippines at Cat 5 strength; at least 40 killed
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:00 PM GMT on December 04, 2012 +37
Typhoon Bopha slammed ashore on the Philippine island of Mindanao at 4:45 am local time on Tuesday morning as a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds. Bopha is the third Category 5 typhoon to affect the Western Pacific this year, and the strongest typhoon ever recorded to hit Mindanao, which rarely sees strong typhoons due to its position close to the Equator. The death toll from the powerful storm already stands at 40, and is expected to rise. While passage over land has weakened Bopha to a Category 2 storm, the tropical cyclone is spreading torrential rains over a large portion of the southern Philippine Islands, and this will cause serious flooding problems today. The island of Mindanao is highly vulnerable to flood disasters from tropical cyclones; last year's Tropical Storm Washi, which hit Mindanao on December 16, 2011 with 60 mph winds and torrential rains, killed over 1500 people. Before hitting the Philippines, Typhoon Bopha brought a storm surge estimated at ten feet to the island nation of Palau, where near-total destruction is being reported in some coastal areas.


Figure 1. Super Typhoon Bopha as seen from the International Space Station on December 2, 2012. At the time, Bopha had top sustained winds of 150 - 155 mph. Image credit: NASA.

Bopha: the 2nd most southerly Category 5 typhoon on record
Bopha, a Cambodian word for flower or a girl, became a tropical depression unusually close to the Equator, at 3.6°N latitude. Tropical cyclones rarely form so close to the Equator, because they cannot leverage the Earth's rotation to get themselves spinning. Bopha became the second most southerly Category 5 typhoon on Monday at 7.4°N latitude. The record is held by Typhoon Louise of 1964, which was a Category 5 storm at 7.3°N.


Video 1. Scenes of wind damage and flooding from Typhoon Bopha's landfall in the Philippines yesterday.

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251. trHUrrIXC5MMX 10:55 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:

Isn't June 1st the meteorological start of Summer there, hence that Hurricane season starts June 1st?


Im not sure
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252. RTSplayer 10:56 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting JustPlantIt:
Holy s*****t. Now this is close to home and no news on major media, where did you get this? This is way over the top! Please send a link. Thanks. NY Times... still not on a major network.


Not really.

Louisianians having been paying a monthly Katrina fee on the electric bill ever since 2005.

Those guys are lucky so far. Just wait. This will probably become a monthly charge indefinitely. Entergy got away with it here. I bet those companies will eventually pull it off too.
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253. trHUrrIXC5MMX 10:57 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
of note...

Winter season/DOOM starts or happens on DEC 21....17 days from now.

Good thing my birthday is 4 days earlier
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254. JustPlantIt 10:59 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

Quoting RTSplayer:


Not really.

Louisianians having been paying a monthly Katrina fee on the electric bill ever since 2005.

Those guys are lucky so far. Just wait. This will probably become a monthly charge indefinitely. Entergy got away with it here. I bet those companies will eventually pull it off too.
I seriously need to go off the grid.
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255. bappit 10:59 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:

Ask NOAA/NHC that.

I expect they decided on having a hurricane "season" to help raise awareness. So they picked days that seemed reasonable.
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256. PalmBeachWeather 11:00 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It has been a long time since I've made a poll, so here goes one.

Q: Should the Atlantic hurricane season start date be pushed back from June 1 to May 15?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Makes no difference to me
C. It really doesn't matter to me....The date is just a number.... Here in south Florida I think we all are aware of a pending storm no matter what date. I actually have friends call me and ask me what I think about a particular storm. I try not to get to exact, LOL. There will be people that choose not to leave in May ,and people that will choose not to leave in June with a storm on our doorsteps.
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257. bappit 11:00 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Is that Levi?????


I highly doubt it.
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258. MrMixon 11:01 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting JustPlantIt:

This is crazy!!! Water will be like gold.


Indeed, the frenzied rush of oil companies scrambling to buy up water rights in the western US is very reminiscent of gold rush times:

"In preparation for future oil shale mining projects near the Rocky Mountains, six oil companies have gained rights to billions of gallons of water in the American West, potentially jeopardizing water supplies throughout the region, according to a new report by Western Resource Advocates [pdf], an environmental group. It is still preliminary to speculate on the implications of the findings, but many are concerned that if the companies put their rights to use, water will be shifted away from agriculture and community use."

Source
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259. JustPlantIt 11:02 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
of note...

Winter season/DOOM starts or happens on DEC 21....17 days from now.

Good thing my birthday is 4 days earlier
I 'm hoping for the doom. Like the fact that I might survive and start over with no taxes here:) A BIG Christmas present if it were to happen!
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260. AussieStorm 11:03 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
of note...

Winter season/DOOM starts or happens on DEC 21....17 days from now.

Good thing my birthday is 4 days earlier

boohoo. my birthday is 2 days after. I'll never see my 37th Birthday. lol
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261. bappit 11:04 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting JustPlantIt:

I hoping for the doom. Like the fact that I might survive and start over with no taxes here:) A BIG Christmas present if it were to happen!

There'd be no money either.
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262. PalmBeachWeather 11:05 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:

boohoo. my birthday is 2 days after. I'll never see my 37th Birthday. lol
I took all of my grandchildrens toys back to Target.... Look at the money I have saved... Now to go buy 38 bottles of Bacardi rum.
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263. JustPlantIt 11:05 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

Quoting AussieStorm:

boohoo. my birthday is 2 days after. I'll never see my 37th Birthday. lol
Aaaah, but you might too:)
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264. wxgeek723 11:06 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
We need a few more hurricane seasons to start in May before extending the season. Don't rush into it.

I hate all this change. Where is meteorology headed nowadays? :/
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265. JustPlantIt 11:07 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

Quoting bappit:

There'd be no money either.
I wouldn't need it.
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266. Doppler22 11:07 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:

Isn't June 1st the meteorological start of Summer there, hence that Hurricane season starts June 1st?

The meteorological start of summer here is between June 20th and June 22nd
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267. AussieStorm 11:10 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting JustPlantIt:

Aaaah, but you might too:)

It's my daughters 7th Birthday this Sunday.


Over a thousand evacuees cram inside the Surigao City Auditorium in this picture taken by Bayan Patroller Harvey Bing on Tuesday. Surigao is one of the worst-hit areas so far, with 33,521 persons forced to flee their homes due to floods.
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268. MAweatherboy1 11:10 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Impressive looking tornado warned storm NE of Corpus Christi:

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269. Doppler22 11:11 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Impressive looking tornado warned storm NE of Corpus Christi:


You took the words right outta my mouth :p
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270. wxgeek723 11:11 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Doppler22:

The meteorological start of summer here is between June 20th and June 22nd


That's the astronomical start to summer.
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271. AussieStorm 11:12 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Sorry I can't translate this. Just watch the video.



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272. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:12 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting wxgeek723:
We need a few more hurricane seasons to start in May before extending the season. Don't rush into it.

I hate all this change. Where is meteorology headed nowadays? :/

The number of pre-season tropical cyclones has doubled from the 1990s to the 2000s. I think that's case enough for an earlier start date.
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273. stormchaser19 11:15 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It has been a long time since I've made a poll, so here goes one.

Q: Should the Atlantic hurricane season start date be pushed back from June 1 to May 15?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Makes no difference to me
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It has been a long time since I've made a poll, so here goes one.

Q: Should the Atlantic hurricane season start date be pushed back from June 1 to May 15?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Makes no difference to me


I think A(YES),because of the formation of some TS in late may, for example BERYL and Alberto this year, maybe in the next years when the formation early storms in May becomes more frequently............BECAUSE THE GLOBAL WARMING or the years when the SST are above the average
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274. wxgeek723 11:16 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

The number of pre-season tropical cyclones has doubled from the 1990s to the 2000s. I think that's case enough for an earlier start date.


Is this a legitimate debate or just an idea that arose on WU?
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275. JustPlantIt 11:16 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

Quoting AussieStorm:

It's my daughters 7th Birthday this Sunday.


Over a thousand evacuees cram inside the Surigao City Auditorium in this picture taken by Bayan Patroller Harvey Bing on Tuesday. Surigao is one of the worst-hit areas so far, with 33,521 persons forced to flee their homes due to floods.
Ooops, sorry. You will all survive. Actually nothing will happen and I will still be learning more about weather! Happy B-day to a 7 year old. I have two girls, one is 19 and one 16. THEY KNOW EVERTHING! Beware:)
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276. AussieStorm 11:19 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    


Flood in Acasia-Carmen, CDO. Houses below rotunda bridge #Typhoon Pablo.
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277. Xyrus2000 11:19 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Bielle:


A further question from someone who knows very little science: water and oil don't mix. Is there any way of using the existing oil pipelines (or some of them at some times) to transport water, either concurrently or at alternating times? Presumably it all has to be filtered anyway . . .


No. Look at the issues when there is an oil spill in the ocean. Oil and water don't mix (well), but separating them cleanly is a very difficult problem.
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278. AussieStorm 11:20 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

The number of pre-season tropical cyclones has doubled from the 1990s to the 2000s. I think that's case enough for an earlier start date.

The EPAC starts May 15 right?
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279. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:22 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting wxgeek723:


Is this a legitimate debate or just an idea that arose on WU?

Just an idea. It has probably been discussed a few times internally, however, and will likely continue to be a topic of discussion in the future, even more so now that tropical cyclones seem to be developing sooner and more frequently.

Quoting AussieStorm:

The EPAC starts May 15 right?

Yes.
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280. trHUrrIXC5MMX 11:22 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
WINTER WEATHER UPDATE
_______________________

California storm rainfall


click for larger image
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281. PalmBeachWeather 11:22 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

The number of pre-season tropical cyclones has doubled from the 1990s to the 2000s. I think that's case enough for an earlier start date.
I agree with that wx13....But I really don't get worked up about hurricane season here in south Florida until the end of July. But that's just me.
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282. Slamguitar 11:23 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Is that Levi?????



Is that the one from last winter?
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283. AussieStorm 11:24 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Mesmerising
BEAUTIFUL waterspout off the coast of Italy a couple of days ago
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284. AussieStorm 11:25 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Slamguitar:


Is that the one from last winter?

Nope that was taken today, Tuesday your time.
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285. Bielle 11:25 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Sorry I can't translate this. Just watch the video.





I love the English words that drop right into the Tagalog: hanging bridge, stranded, high winds, yesterday and evacuation centres.
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286. AussieStorm 11:26 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Bielle:


I love the English words that drop right into the Tagalog: hanging bridge, stranded, high winds, yesterday and evacuation centres.

We call that Taglish, mix of Tagalog and English.
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287. JustPlantIt 11:27 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
WINTER WEATHER UPDATE
_______________________

California storm rainfall


click for larger image
Over 25" of rain... are these totals correct? Amazing if they are. Midwest could use some of this rain!
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288. Slamguitar 11:28 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:

Nope that was taken today, Tuesday your time.


Oh, I remember the same two people posing in front of that sign last year. I think the temp was in the -40's then though.
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289. AussieStorm 11:30 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Slamguitar:


Oh, I remember the same two people posing in front of that sign last year. I think the temp was in the -40's then though.

Yeah I remember that Photo also. I thought it was -48F from memory.
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290. Xyrus2000 11:30 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting JustPlantIt:

I wouldn't need it.


There'd be no technology. No electricity. No cars. No gasoline. No roads. No police. No firemen. No water service. No sewer service. No internet. No infrastructure. No cellphone service. No emergency medical services. No advanced medicines. No advanced food production. No refrigeration. No garbage service. No schools. And on and on and on....

You also seem perfectly content with letting millions suffer and die, just for the chance that you survive and don't pay taxes.

You aren't, by chance, a CEO are you?
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291. bohonkweatherman 11:33 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
still hit 79 here behind weak front
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292. Bielle 11:34 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Xyrus2000:


There'd be no technology. No electricity. No cars. No gasoline. No roads. No police. No firemen. No water service. No sewer service. No internet. No infrastructure. No cellphone service. No emergency medical services. No advanced medicines. No advanced food production. No refrigeration. No garbage service. No schools. And on and on and on....

You also seem perfectly content with letting millions suffer and die, just for the chance that you survive and don't pay taxes.

You aren't, by chance, a CEO are you?


That was funny, that last sentence.
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293. allancalderini 11:34 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting stormchaser19:


I think A(YES),because of the formation of some TS in late may, for example BERYL and Alberto this year, maybe in the next years when the formation early storms in May becomes more frequently............BECAUSE THE GLOBAL WARMING or the years when the SST are above the average
Unless it becomes a frequent thing like for example 5 straight years then yes but until then I see no reason. the last two years has seen their first name storm in June and 2009 in August not counting that td.
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294. AussieStorm 11:37 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Xyrus2000:


There'd be no technology. No electricity. No cars. No gasoline. No roads. No police. No firemen. No water service. No sewer service. No internet. No infrastructure. No cellphone service. No emergency medical services. No advanced medicines. No advanced food production. No refrigeration. No garbage service. No schools. And on and on and on....

You also seem perfectly content with letting millions suffer and die, just for the chance that you survive and don't pay taxes.

You aren't, by chance, a CEO are you?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The best laugh I've had in days.
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295. AussieStorm 11:42 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
As of 2:00 PM, 04 December 2012, the Municipalities of Bubong, Ramain,
Mulondo, and Taraka in Lanao Del Sur are reportedly affected by flooding.

As of 1:40 PM. 04 December 2012, eight (8) Barangays in the Municipality of
Poona Bayabao were reportedly flooded namely: Gata, Cadayonan, Dimayon,
Tandiong, Cairan Rogan, and Punud.

A 2Go Shipping vessel bound from Manila to Bacolod was reportedly stranded
at about 2:20 PM, 03 December 2012. The vessel was advised by MARINA for
an anchorage due to the ongoing public storm warning signal. There were
1,098 passengers on board and was provided with purified drinking water and
noodle soup by the Shipping Line Management.

At about 1:45 PM, 04 December 2012, a whirlwind/tornado strucked Sitio
Fishing Village, Brgy Poblacion, Alicia, Zamboanga Sibugay damaging the
roof of five (5) houses with 20 dependents, and one (1) warehouse with 13
families / 78 dependents. The victims are evacuated at the Municipal
Gymnasium.

On or about 5:15 PM, 04 December 2012, a vessel sunk at the vicinity of Maria,
Siquijor. PCG Dumaguete personnel proceeded to the scene to verify the
incident. According to the investigation, MV Euro 3 drifted from the anchorage
area to the cliff side of Maria, Siquijor which caused the ship to run aground.
All of the sixteen (16) crew members jumped overboard and swam to the
shoreline. Two (2) crew members went missing.

As of 6:00 AM, 05 December 2012, the total number of population affected in 132
Barangays / 58 municipalities / 8 cities in 13 provinces of Regions VIII, X, XI and
CARAGA is 24,380 families / 120,627 persons.

The total number of population currently served inside and outside the evacuation
centers is 21,560 families / 106,730 persons
INSIDE 162 ECs 17,678 families / 86,912 persons

A total of 439 damaged houses were reported in Regions X(10) and CARAGA. Of
which, 422 were partially damaged while 17 were totally damaged.

From NDRRMC Update Sitrep No. 08 re Effects of Typhoon "PABLO" (BOPHA) as of 05 December 2012, 6:00AM
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296. MrMixon 11:43 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Bielle:


A further question from someone who knows very little science: water and oil don't mix. Is there any way of using the existing oil pipelines (or some of them at some times) to transport water, either concurrently or at alternating times? Presumably it all has to be filtered anyway . . .


Quoting Xyrus2000:


No. Look at the issues when there is an oil spill in the ocean. Oil and water don't mix (well), but separating them cleanly is a very difficult problem.


Water and oil also have very different impacts on pumping equipment. I'm guessing the pumping equipment designed to move oil takes advantage of the fact that oil is a natural lubricant and helps machinery resist corrosion. Water, of course, is a poor lubricant and actually causes corrosion. Then there's the viscosity difference...

Not to say the pumping machinery couldn't be adapted, but I imagine these large pumping systems are quite specialized and there would be numerous (if not insurmountable) challenges to designing a system to regularly oscillate between handling these two very different liquids.
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297. nymore 11:48 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Temperature in Fairbanks AK -35F at 2:45pm

That's cold
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298. AussieStorm 11:54 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Are you using the old(classic) format of WU or the new version of WU.

A) Old
B) New

I am using the old version. Has less problems.
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299. JustPlantIt 11:55 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
Quoting Xyrus2000:


There'd be no technology. No electricity. No cars. No gasoline. No roads. No police. No firemen. No water service. No sewer service. No internet. No infrastructure. No cellphone service. No emergency medical services. No advanced medicines. No advanced food production. No refrigeration. No garbage service. No schools. And on and on and on....

You also seem perfectly content with letting millions suffer and die, just for the chance that you survive and don't pay taxes.

You aren't, by chance, a CEO are you?
No... I have no TV only internet service. My water is very local within a half mile and I also have a well on the property. I have No sewer, only a dysfuctional septic along a very pristine stream that has native trout. I DO have a 2 hole outhouse! Cell phones do not work here and I do not have one. Police... who would need them, really it would be every man for himself. Refrigeration.... that is called having a smoker to keep meat. Garbage... I recycle and I can still burn. Schools, I can homeschool too. Gas, I've got wood. No roads, I've got the chickens, geese and goats. AND REALLY, Technology has a way of taking everyone's money for the greedy people who think that we need it! And oh yes, my infrastructure is an old mill and house that are dated from the 1700's, not like the shacks built today. And no, I am not content with people that die. My life is about teaching others how to grow, harvest and preserve thier own food for self preserve. AND those taxes that I pay... do little for the infrastructure to my society here in this community or for that matter yours! Steal from me to pay the 1% who have. Don't cry to me and tell me that I don't know. I have my own food. AND I KNOW HOW TO COOK and live. Your mom should spank your bottom, because; yes, I am a CEO of connecting with my neighbors and helping.
PS:) So many No's... guess you are not a positive person with positive ideas, why  I will survive life more fullfilling than you.
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300. AussieStorm 11:56 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    

This would be interesting to attend.
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301. GeoffreyWPB 11:57 PM GMT on December 04, 2012    
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