Category 5 Super Typhoon Bopha bearing down on the Philippines

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:41 PM GMT on December 03, 2012

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Extremely dangerous Typhoon Bopha is bearing down on the Philippine island of Mindanao as a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds. Bopha completed an eyewall replacement cycle on Sunday and has been steadily intensifying today, and will make landfall on Mindanao in the early morning on Tuesday local time. Mindanao rarely gets hit by typhoons, since the island is too close to the Equator, and the infrastructure of Mindanao is not prepared to handle heavy typhoon rains as well as the more typhoon-prone northern islands. Bopha is potentially a catastrophic storm for Mindanao. The typhoon is following a similar track to last year's Tropical Storm Washi, which hit Mindanao on December 16, 2011 with 60 mph winds and torrential rains. Washi triggered devastating flooding that killed 1268 people. Washi was merely a tropical storm, and Bopha is likely to hit at Category 4 or 5 strength, making it the strongest typhoon ever recorded in Mindanao.


Figure 1. Super Typhoon Bopha at 01:45 UTC on December 2, 2012. At the time, Bopha had top sustained winds of 150 mph, as was just below its peak intensity of 155 mph, which it reached from 06 - 12 UTC on December 2. Image credit: NASA.

Bopha: the 2nd most southerly typhoon on record
Bopha became a tropical depression unusually close to the Equator, at 3.6°N latitude. Tropical cyclones rarely form so close to the Equator, because they cannot leverage the Earth's rotation to get themselves spinning. According to hurricane expert Dr. Paul Roundy of SUNY Albany, Bopha got its spin from a large-scale atmospheric wave called a mixed Rossby gravity wave. Because of the lack of atmospheric spin so close to the Equator, it took Bopha over four days to intensify into a typhoon, and it stayed a relatively small storm. Bopha became the 2nd most southerly typhoon ever recorded in the Western Pacific at 06 GMT on November 30, when the storm was at 3.8°N latitude. The Joint Typhoon Warning Center lists Typhoon Vamei of 2001 as the most southerly typhoon on record, at 1.5°N. However, other meteorological agencies do not credit Vamei with reaching typhoon strength, so this record is disputed. The previous most southerly typhoon was Typhoon Kate of 14 - 25 October 1970, which reached typhoon intensity at 4.3°N, 137.4°E. Bopha continued intensifying over the weekend, becoming the second most southerly super typhoon ever recorded (150 mph winds) at 00 GMT on December 1, when it was at 6.1°N latitude. The record most southerly super typhoon was Kate, which reached super typhoon intensity at 6.0°N, 126.3°E. Kate struck the Philippine island of Mindanao as a Category 4 storm, killing 631 people. Bopha further intensified into a Category 5 typhoon on Monday at 7.4°N latitude, becoming the second most southerly Category 5 typhoon on record, next to Typhoon Louise of 1964, which was a Category 5 storm at 7.3°N. According to NOAA's Coastal Services Center, there have been only 4 previous typhoons of at least Category 4 strength to track within 200 nautical miles of Mindanao Island, dating back to 1945: Mike ("Ruping" ) in 1990, Ike ("Nitang") in 1984, Kate ("Titang") in 1970, and Louise ("Ining" ) in 1964.


Figure 2. Tracks of all Category 4 typhoons to affect the southern Philippine Island of Mindanao since 1945. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

The closest a tropical cyclone has ever been to the Equator is 0.7°N, by Tropical Cyclone Agni in the North Indian Ocean in November 2004. Agni got counter-clockwise spin from the presence of the summer monsoon circulation in the Indian Ocean. The closest a Western Pacific tropical cyclone has been to the Equator is 1.4°N latitude, by Tropical Storm Vamei on December 27, 2001. Vamei hit Singapore after Christmas in 2001, at a latitude of 1.5°N.


Figure 3. This MET-5 visible satellite image taken at 0400 UTC November 28, 2004, shows Agni as a developing tropical storm just north of the Equator in the Indian Ocean. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterey.

Jeff Masters

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Over 41,000 flee homes as 'Pablo' batters VisMin

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATE) – Over 41,000 residents in southern Philippines fled their homes as typhoon "Pablo" (international codename "Bopha") made landfall on Tuesday morning, the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) said.

The NDRRMC said as of 6 a.m., 41,608 people (8,283 families) fled their homes in the following areas forecast to be hit by the typhoon:

• Leyte (1,214)
• Southern Leyte (1,152)
• Misamis Oriental (560)
• Lanao del Norte (500)
• Davao Oriental (810)
• Surigao del Sur (17,791)
• Surigao del Norte (19,566)
• Agusan del Norte (15)

The NDRRMC said the evacuees are currently sheltered in various covered courts and schools. At least 972 evacuation centers have been identified ahead of the typhoon's arrival in the country.

Meanwhile, at least 3,406 passengers have been stranded in various ports around the country as of 6 a.m.

Coast Guard officials said 133 rolling cargoes, 87 vessels, and 48 motorboats were barred from sailing due to rough sea conditions.

Surigao blackout

Meanwhile, Surigao del Sur Governor Johnny Pimentel reported that almost the entire province lost electricity due to strong winds.

Pimentel said due to strong winds, 90% of the province lost supply of electricity. He also noted that communication lines are also suffering glitches due to the typhoon.

"Grabe na. Napakalakas ng hangin, talagang nararanasan na namin ang hagupit ng bagyo," Pimentel told dzMM.

"I would say that this is one of the strongest typhoon na na-experience namin dito sa Surigao del Sur," he added.

Pablo to exit PAR on Thursday

Pablo made landfall in the coastal town of Baganga, Davao Oriental Tuesday morning. It was still packing maximum sustained winds of 175 kph near the center and gustiness of up to 210 kph.

As of 9 a.m., Pablo was over Loreto, Agusan del Sur. PAGASA said Pablo has maintained its strength, still packing maximum sustained winds of 175 kph near the center and gusts of up to 210 kph.

PAGASA administrator Nathaniel Servando said the typhoon is expected to weaken after hitting land.

He also noted that Pablo is the strongest weather disturbance to actually hit the Philippine landmass this year.

Pablo was moving west at 26 kph. With this speed and direction, the typhoon will be 180 kilometers southwest of Roxas City on Wednesday morning.

Servando said Pablo is expected to hover over northern Mindanao and southern Visayas before finally exiting the Philippine Area of Responsibility on Thursday.

"Pagkatapos ng Compostela Valley, ito po ay daaanan ng Bukidnon, Misamis Oriental dahil may lawak itong 600 kilometers. Ang pinaka-core circulation ay daanan sa may Bohol, Southern Cebu, Southern Negros, maging sa southern part ng Panay bago ito tumungo ng northern part ng Palawan," Servando said.

"Kung 'di magbago ang direksyon nito, bandang Huwebes ng hapon ito ay lalabas a ng PAR patungong West Philippine Sea."

The typhoon is expected to dump 15-30 millimeters per hour of rain within its 600-kilometer diameter.

"Residents in coastal areas under public storm warning signal #2 and signal #3 are alerted against storm surges particularly those living in the coastal areas of Surigao del Sur, Surigao del Norte, Dinagat, Bohol and Leyte provinces where 3-6 meters wave height is expected," PAGASA said.

The weather bureau also warned fishing boats and other small sea crafts against venturing out into the eastern seaboards of Visayas and Mindanao.

National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) executive director Benito Ramos, meanwhile, no casualties from the typhoon have been reported so far.

Ramos said he is hoping that with all the government's preparation, no loss of life will occur as the typhoon batters the southern Philippines.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Supposedly there haven't been any reports of casualties yet.

It seems people take heed on category 5 storms, well, at least over there anyway.

It's those pesky slow moving Tropical Storm strength storms that nobody pays attention to which do the real loss of life.


'Pablo' claims first casualty

MANILA, Philippines - Typhoon Pablo claimed its first casualty when a woman was killed due to a toppled tree in Davao Oriental.

The fatality was identified as Merlinda Balante, 60, of Manay, Davao Oriental.

The National Disaster Risk Reduction Management Council earlier said there were four unconfirmed deaths, three died supposedly from fallen trees and one from heart attack. But the agency retracted this and only confirmed the fatality in Davao Oriental.

Also, there have been reports that one person died in CARAGA after falling off the stairs of her house. The victim was identified as Roselle Anong, 22.

NDRRMC head Benito Ramos does not want to qualify this as a death due to typhoon Pablo.

Meanwhile, fisherman Juanito Pablo who was earlier reported missing in Leyte has been found.

The NDRRMC also reported that a landslide buried one house in New Bataan in Compostela Valley. They are still verifying reports of any casualties from that landslide.

Typhoon "Pablo" (international codename: Bopha) made landfall in the coastal town of Baganga in Davao Oriental on Tuesday morning. A total of 46 areas were also placed under storm signals. ANC
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By Bill DiBenedetto | August 17th, 2012

It was a long time coming. What some are hailing as landmark international regulations to reduce air pollution from ships in North American waters took effect this month.

It's called an Emission Control Area, or ECA, and it is now in place a mere two years after the International Maritime Organization approved an application from the U.S. and Canada to create this "lower pollution zone."

The ECA's provisions are designed to prevent tons of harmful pollutants from entering the atmosphere from ships smokestacks. Many of these air pollutants, such as nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides and particulate matter, significantly impact the health of coastal communities and can travel hundreds of miles inland as well.

...

Under the ECA, ships coming within 200 nautical miles of the U.S. and Canada are required to burn cleaner fuels. And those standards will become even more stringent by 2015 -- bringing Canada and the U.S. in line with similar European restrictions.

Most large vessels, including cargo, container and cruise ships, burn bunker fuel, one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet. It is thousands of times dirtier than diesel truck fuel, according to the EPA. In addition to its air-polluting qualities, when bunker fuel is spilled it is almost impossible to clean up and is extremely destructive to oceans, coastal waters and the marine life living in those waters.

"Every dollar invested in cleaner ships avoids more than $30 in health costs, thanks to reduced asthma, cancer and heart disease," said Rich Kassel, a consultant to the Natural Resources Defense Council and a member of the U.S. delegation that secured the ECA. "With economic and public health benefits like these, it's easy to see why there has been broad bi-partisan support for creating the Emission Control Area."

Well, perhaps not entirely broad or bi-partisan. The cruise industry is working hard to water down the ECA, lobbying Congress and the Obama administration to put in place measures that would allow it to bypass the ECA's rules. The cruise industry claims that it will have to avoid North American waters if the ECA's standards go into effect, citing increasing costs due to switching to less polluting fuel and replacing ship equipment to accommodate that fuel. The industry's recent efforts include attempts to amend the ECA to exempt cruise ships from the cleaner fuel requirements in less populated areas like Alaska and Hawaii.


http://www.triplepundit.com/2012/08/emission-cont rol-area/
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Quoting CosmicEvents:
Is Ray Nagin a mayor in Mindanao these days?

Who??
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Quoting KoritheMan:
Now we agonizingly await the death toll. With how vulnerable this area is to typhoons, I'd look for it to be high.


Supposedly there haven't been any reports of casualties yet.

It seems people take heed on category 5 storms, well, at least over there anyway.

It's those pesky slow moving Tropical Storm strength storms that nobody pays attention to which do the real loss of life.
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REPORT: Pollution from 15 of world's biggest ships equal that of world's 760m cars

ByJeremy Korzeniewski
Posted Jun 2nd 2009 1:57PM

Says James Corbett, professor of marine policy at the University of Delaware: "Ship pollution affects the health of communities in coastal and inland regions around the world, yet pollution from ships remains one of the least regulated parts of our global transportation system." It sounds serious, but how bad could it be? Staggeringly, if a report by the UK's Guardian newspaper is to be believed. According to their story, just one of the world's largest container ships can emit about as much pollution as 50 million cars. Further, the 15 largest ships in the world emit as much nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide as the world's 760 million cars.

The problem isn't necessarily with the ships' 109,000-horsepower engines that endlessly spin away 24 hours a day, 280 days a year. In fact, these powerplants are some of the most fuel efficient units in the world. The real issue lies with the heavy fuel oil the ships run on and the almost complete lack of regulations applied to the giant exhaust stacks of these container ships.


http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/02/report-polluti on-from-15-of-worlds-biggest-ships-equal-that-o/
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{{Beell}}...am I going to get my snow this winter? lol
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Now we agonizingly await the death toll. With how vulnerable this area is to typhoons, I'd look for it to be high.
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Quoting stormchaser19:
A false-color infrared image, captured today by the Suomi NPP satellite, shows details of Super Typhoon Bopha's structure


Typhoon Bopha swirls hundreds of miles below the International Space Station on Sunday, in a photo taken by one of the astronauts on board



Pablo looks like a huge pimple from space
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Bopha should reemerge over water shortly. It's probably a high-end Category 2 or low-end Category 3-equivalent now.

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At least part of Bopha's eye has re-emerged over water.


2012DEC04 035700 6.3 924.0/ 4.8 /122.2 6.3 6.3 4.5 1.2T/12hr ON OFF -60.75 -62.92 UNIFRM N/A 8.33 -124.58 SPRL

Not sure I trust the coordinates right now. Maybe this was posted a bit premature, because I personally think the eye is still a few hours inland.
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Quoting ScottLincoln:

Heck, its worse than that in some cases. Not only are some of the resort towns just completely gone, the island they were on isn't there anymore, either.


That's what I meant.
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Quoting beell:


It does look good-and fairly far south. A decent LLJ and just a hint of a coupled jet-where the exit region of the southern stream and the entrance region of the northern stream upper jet kind of overlap-which eventually translates into mid-level ascent.

00Z just out. Timing issues remain. Too soon for doom.


Timing and placement. Here is the 12z ECMWF at 144 hours compared to the 0z GFS at 168 hours:

ECMWF:



GFS:



Seems to be the biggest question mark in delineating specific threat areas at this point.
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Quoting RTSplayer:
There used to be resort towns on barrier islands off the coast of Louisiana in the mid-1800's and the islands don't even exist any more, because they were destroyed by hurricanes and completely erased from the map.

Heck, its worse than that in some cases. Not only are some of the resort towns just completely gone, the island they were on isn't there anymore, either.
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473. beell
Quoting KoritheMan:


I usually don't do severe weather, but the trough on the GFS looks fairly impressive, plus it could affect my area, so... why the hell not?


It does look good-and fairly far south. A decent LLJ and just a hint of a coupled jet-where the exit region of the southern stream and the entrance region of the northern stream upper jet kind of overlap-which eventually translates into mid-level ascent.

00Z just out. Timing issues remain. Too soon for doom.
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Quoting beell:
Still a credible risk developing for an organized severe weather event towards the end of this weekend as a strong mid level trough begins to amplify over the southern plains. Probably the best chance of some severe weather we have seen in a while.

For whatever reason, it appears the SPC pulled its 4-8 day outlook issued for today. Saw one early this morning with no areas outlooked due to timing differences. Now its gone(?) and replaced with a replay of Sunday's 4-8 Outlook.

East Texas, the ARKLATX/ARKLAMS areas in the GFS model as it stands right now. There should be a good chance for a bit of backside snow and just a bit of ice behind the front from the panhandle of TX to the north east across OK, KS, and MO as some of the cold air bottled up over Canada sweeps south down the plains. Ground temps still pretty warm here-but a touch of winter on the way next week for the central US.


I usually don't do severe weather, but the trough on the GFS looks fairly impressive, plus it could affect my area, so... why the hell not?
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471. beell
Still a credible risk developing for an organized severe weather event towards the end of this weekend as a strong mid level trough begins to amplify over the southern plains. Probably the best chance of some severe weather we have seen in a while.

For whatever reason, it appears the SPC pulled its 4-8 day outlook issued for today. Saw one early this morning with no areas outlooked due to timing differences. Now its gone(?) and replaced with a replay of Sunday's 4-8 Outlook.

East Texas, the ARKLATX/ARKLAMS areas in the GFS model as it stands right now. There should be a good chance for a bit of backside snow and just a bit of ice behind the front from the panhandle of TX to the north east across OK, KS, and MO as some of the cold air bottled up over Canada sweeps south down the plains. Ground temps still pretty warm here-but a touch of winter on the way next week for the central US.
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Quoting AGWcreationists:
Spare me. The legalities of forced evacuation for NOLA should have been worked out long before the big one. Just as Blanco was a flaming idiot who didn't want federal assistance pre-Katrina for political reasons. Assistance that was offered by Bush but refused by Blanco, as opposed to Christie with Sandy and Obama.

I imagine you will post all kinds of liberal website attacks over that claim. But the facts stand. Blanco was an idiot hack way over her head.


The heck is your problem?

When they call a "Mandatory Evacuation" that really isn't mandatory, because the law of the land doesn't allow it, but it's been that way forever. Nagin was just trying to get more power to try to save more lives, but you're going to fault him for that too.

I have no idea how stupid the average person really is, but maybe it's worse than I imagined.

My family lived here for as long as I know, and everyone knows you don't ride out a hurricane in NOLA.

In the past several decades before Katrina they had category 3 landfalls left, right, and center and they had black and whites of Camille and Betsy, so nobody had any excuse for not knowing they were supposed to evacuate. This has happened before just a few decades earlier, so it's not like they didn't know about it.


Then in the case of Rita, you get a bunch of people who also didn't evacuate, or who chose to build in the same place that got demolished by Audrey, and they come out after the fact and boo hoo about how it's never happened before, when in fact the previous one in the same location was 20mph worse at landfall.


What's more, if you check the history of hurricanes in the region, Katrina and Betsy might not even be the two most powerful hurricanes to have hit NOLA region. This happens every 2 or 3 decades, and it's the same thing every time: blame the government. There's even records of it happening during the war of 1812 when the British naval officer kept a journal of a really powerful NOLA landfall that killed a couple thousand people.

They've hit coming right to left, left to right, and bottom to top, and everything between, and literally scour the region on some occasions, and in a few cases wiped out resort islands from the map. There used to be resort towns on barrier islands off the coast of Louisiana in the mid-1800's and the islands don't even exist any more, because they were destroyed by hurricanes and completely erased from the map.


So how much responsibility is the government supposed to have for people's bad choices, particularly in places where this has been happening literally for as long as civilization has existed?


This is what was on the world news at least 24 hours ahead of time (still more than enough for people to get up and leave).



I've already posted this before in the past.

News people shocked at the idiocy of the people not leaving, even after the mayor and governor called for an evacuation.

Pay attention, he stands there all day, for day time to night, as nobody in the background is doing anything.

The forecast they gave ahead of time was for 22feet of water and for the city to be flooded, and combined with the previous video, they were even expecting some high-rise buildings to collapse.

Crud I forgot. I can't post the next video I was going to post, because of what happens at the end. I think I got banned last time I posted it. Search "Katrina non-evacuation" on youtube.
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469. Skyepony (Mod)
Jupiter is as close as it's going to be til 2021..

This meter is big & expected to go by pretty close.

2012 DA14
Feb 15
0.09 LD
57 m
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http://www.pia.gov.ph/news/index.php?article=5135 4592471
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MANILA, Dec 4 (PIA) -- Typhoon “Pablo" (international code name Bopha) that made landfall early Tuesday morning in Mindanao is one of the strongest typhoons to visit the Philippines, judging from the wide swath of regions affected by Pablo. And yet, there were no casualty nor injury reported as of this posting.

The National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) based its statement on reports coming from Agusan del Norte, Surigao del Sur and Davao Oriental where Pablo made landfall in Banganga at 4:45 a.m., Tuesday, whipping up strong winds and heavy rains.

Residents in Bukidnon, Misamis Oriental, Cagayan and Iligan are bracing themselves for Pablo while the disaster councils in these areas are preparing for the worse.

Power lines in seven municipalities in Surigao del Sur are down, leaving homes, business establishments, and schools without electricity.

Floods waters had gone down to waist level in Sta Josefa, Agusan del Sur but the highway from Davao to Butuan is still impassable to vehicles because of flood waters.
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I didn't know there was a WPAC Ike
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Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #68
TYPHOON BOPHA (T1224)
12:00 PM JST December 4 2012
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SUBJECT: Category Three Typhoon Overland Mindanao

At 3:00 AM UTC, Typhoon Bopha (960 hPa) located at 8.1N 125.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 85 knots with gusts of 120 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west at 16 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: Overland

Storm Force Winds
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80 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
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210 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
150 NM from the center in northwest quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 10.1N 120.4E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Sulu Sea
45 HRS: 11.5N 118.7E - 75 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) South China Sea
69 HRS: 12.1N 117.1E - 80 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) South China Sea
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464. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Philippines Atmospheric Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #8
TYPHOON PABLO (BOPHA)
11:00 AM PhST December 4 2012
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Typhoon “PABLO” has slightly weakened after making a landfall and is now traversing the province of Bukidnon.

At 10:00 AM PhST, Typhoon Pablo [958 hPa] located at 8.1°N 125.5°E or 50 km east of Malaybalay, Bukidnon has 10 minute sustained winds of 85 knots gusting up to 105 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest at 10 knots.

Signal Warnings
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Signal Warning #3
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Visayas Region
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1. Bohol
2. Siquijor
3. Southern Cebu
4. Southern Negros
5. Orriental
6. Southern Negros Occidental

Mindanao Region
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1. Misamis Oriental,
2. Bukidnon
3. Lanao del Sur
4. Lanao del
5. Norte
6. MIsamis Occidental
7. Zamboanga del Norte
8. Camiguin

Signal Warning #2
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Luzon Region
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1. Northern Palawan including Calamian Group Of Islands
2. Cuyo Island

Visayas Region
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1. Southern Leyte
2. Antique
3. Iloilo
4. Rest of Cebu including Camotes Island
5. Rest of Negros Oriental
6. Rest of Negros
7. Occidental

Mindanao Region
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1. Surigao del Norte including Siargao
2. Surigao del Sur
3. Dinagat
4. Agusan del Norte
5. Agusan del Sur
6. Davao del Norte including Samal Island
7. Compostela Valley
8. Davao Oriental
9. North Cotabato

Zamboanga del Sur, Zamboanga Sibugay and Maguindanao
Signal Warning #1
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Luzon Region
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1. Rest of Palawan

Visayas Region
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1. Aklan
2. Capiz
3. Leyte including Biliran

Mindanao Region
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1. Davao del Sur
2. Sultan Kudarat
3. Basilan
4. Sarangani
5. South Cotabato

Additional Information
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Estimated rainfall amount is from 15-30 mm per hour (heavy to intense) within the 600 km diameter of the typhoon.

Residents living in low lying and mountainous areas under public storm warning signals are alerted against possible flash floods and landslides. Likewise, those living in coastal areas under public storm warning signal #3 and signal #2 are alerted against big waves or storm surges generated by this Typhoon.

Fishing boats and other sea vessels are advised not to venture out into the Seaboards of Visayas and Mindanao.

The public and the disaster coordinating councils concerned are advised to take appropriate actions and watch for the next bulletin to be issued at 5 PM today.
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Quoting yoboi:



140 mph gust in nevada???


yes.. 140 mph gust!

...CALIFORNIA...
MAMMOTH MOUNTAIN 150
WARD MOUNTAIN 139
LAKE CITY 3 E 90
SANDBERG 86
HIGH GLADE LOOKOUT 81
INDEPENDENCE 5 NW 79
SIERRAVILLE 5 SSW 78
DUNCAN PEAK RAWS 77
REDDING 2 S 71
MT. DIABLO RAWS 67
BLUE CANYON 66
RIVERSIDE 63
SAN FRANCISCO INTL ARPT 50

...MONTANA...
LIVINGSTON 2 WSW 77
NYE 5 SW 76
EMIGRANT 3 SSE 67
MCALLISTER 4 NNE 67
BOULDER 61

...NEVADA...
WARD MOUNTAIN 139
MOUNT ROSE SKI ARE 95
RENO 2 SSE 95
LAKE CITY 90
MOUNT MONTGOMERY 5 ENE 88
WASHOE CITY 1 S 84
JARBIDGE 9 E 83
WALTER LAKE 80
VIRGINIA CITY 4 NNW 77
KYLE CANYON RAWS 73
CARSON CITY 6 SW 72
GARDNERVILLE 5 WSW 68
SILVER SPRINGS 68


sorry it took me a while to respond...
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Quoting stormchaser19:
A false-color infrared image, captured today by the Suomi NPP satellite, shows details of Super Typhoon Bopha's structure


Typhoon Bopha swirls hundreds of miles below the International Space Station on Sunday, in a photo taken by one of the astronauts on board


Both of those pictures are still impressive.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


The government intended to force people to leave for their own protection, but the law doesn't actually allow a real "Mandatory Evacuation". So the government is forced to beg and plead with people to get them to leave, and then watch them die after they refuse to leave, and then get blamed after they die.

Besides, you're wrong anyway.

Where do you get this crap from?

I live in Louisiana and watched every moment of Katrina of both TWC and local and world news.

Every person in this state knew for all of my lifetime that the levees would not protect them from a storm of that magnitude. If anyone says otherwise their either a liar or an idiot, because the scientists and meteorologists had been saying it ever since Betsy anyway.


It's easy to beat up on a former mayor or former governor, but at the end of the day the facts are the same. The people live below sea level and then stayed behind in the worst storm in anyone's memory, and bet their lives on a stupid pile of dirt.
Spare me. The legalities of forced evacuation for NOLA should have been worked out long before the big one. Just as Blanco was a flaming idiot who didn't want federal assistance pre-Katrina for political reasons. Assistance that was offered by Bush but refused by Blanco, as opposed to Christie with Sandy and Obama.

I imagine you will post all kinds of liberal website attacks over that claim. But the facts stand. Blanco was an idiot hack way over her head.
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A false-color infrared image, captured today by the Suomi NPP satellite, shows details of Super Typhoon Bopha's structure


Typhoon Bopha swirls hundreds of miles below the International Space Station on Sunday, in a photo taken by one of the astronauts on board

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Quoting RTSplayer:


That's just not right.

Ray Nagin did more than most, and got blamed for something beyond his control.

I remember watching both Nagin and Blanco telling people to get out immediately, and that if they did stay behind it was on them and that they should write their social on their body so they could I.D. the corpse.

I don't know how much more blunt someone had to be to get the point across.

That was a pretty clear message. Can't get the cops out to detain thousands of people. Even if it were legal, it ain't practical. Meanwhile ...

Haters hate. Whiners whine.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You may have a chance, but that doesn't mean you'll get it.

Yeah there is that, but anything would be better than last winter. I didn't need to really wear a jacket IIRC.
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457. Skyepony (Mod)
China~ Snowstorms caused travel chaos Monday with expressways in northeast China's Liaoning province forced to close and passenger ships departing from the port city of Dalian suspended. As of 4 p.m., more than 11,000 passenger buses were suspended due to the disruption on the expressways, provincial highways as well as the rural roads, according to the provincial transportation department. Passenger ships sailing from the Dalian port to the island county of Changhai and east China's Shandong province were all suspended due to the gales, the department said. Xiantao International Airport, which was closed Monday morning, resumed service at 2 p.m.. The Harbin-Dalian High-Speed Railway, which started operation on Saturday linking three provinces in the northeast China region, was not affected by the weather. The snow stopped as of Monday afternoon with plunging temperatures all over the province, according to the provincial meteorological bureau.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You may have a chance, but that doesn't mean you'll get it.


Three words:

Snow machine rental.

:D
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Quoting AGWcreationists:
Ray Nagin spent the pre-Katrina Saturday tracking down the NOLA city attorney about the legality of a mandatory evacuation. One would think that would have been worked out in the hurricane offseason.


The government intended to force people to leave for their own protection, but the law doesn't actually allow a real "Mandatory Evacuation". So the government is forced to beg and plead with people to get them to leave, and then watch them die after they refuse to leave, and then get blamed after they die.

Besides, you're wrong anyway.

Where do you get this crap from?

I live in Louisiana and watched every moment of Katrina of both TWC and local and world news.

Every person in this state knew for all of my lifetime that the levees would not protect them from a storm of that magnitude. If anyone says otherwise their either a liar or an idiot, because the scientists and meteorologists had been saying it ever since Betsy anyway.


It's easy to beat up on a former mayor or former governor, but at the end of the day the facts are the same. The people live below sea level and then stayed behind in the worst storm in anyone's memory, and bet their lives on a stupid pile of dirt.
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Quoting wxchaser97:

It is good for me.

You may have a chance, but that doesn't mean you'll get it.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


That's just not right.

Ray Nagin did more than most, and got blamed for something beyond his control.

I remember watching both Nagin and Blanco telling people to get out immediately, and that if they did stay behind it was on them and that they should write their social on their body so they could I.D. the corpse.

I don't know how much more blunt someone had to be to get the point across.
Ray Nagin spent the pre-Katrina Saturday tracking down the NOLA city attorney about the legality of a mandatory evacuation. One would think that would have been worked out in the hurricane offseason.
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Quoting CosmicEvents:
Is Ray Nagin a mayor in Mindanao these days?


That's just not right.

Ray Nagin did more than most, and got blamed for something beyond his control.

I remember watching both Nagin and Blanco telling people to get out immediately, and that if they did stay behind it was on them and that they should write their social on their body so they could I.D. the corpse.

I don't know how much more blunt someone had to be to get the point across.
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Quoting KoritheMan:

Good for you.

It is good for me.
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Quoting AussieStorm:


Primy Cane ‏@PrimyCk
Mayor declared Code Red in CDO at 7 but OIC Police Chief Montalba at 8 am said forced evac cant start yet bec he is still "having breakfast"

Priscilla Tanjuatco ‏@XillaXill
@PrimyCk Wow! I guess "having breakfast" is more important THAN the lives of the people in CDO. #PabloPH
Is Ray Nagin a mayor in Mindanao these days?
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After the southern Philippines, it appears either Taiwan or Luzon are next before this heads OTS. Though I believe the rugged terrain will keep this from strengthening much.
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While most of the country is enjoying warm springlike temperatures

Link


Here in Seattle the weather is typical, 50F and raining. Which I'm thankful for given the substantial lack of rain throughout most of the country, and it's too warm to snow =) I for one am very glad to see Seattle that will not have a white Christmas this year. (which is almost a given being that we only have a 7-8% chance for a white Christmas each year)
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Quoting wxchaser97:

Ha ha, I have like a 50-60% chance of a White Christmas :P
Good for you.
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Quoting KoritheMan:

Zilch for my area. Thanks, negative nancy.

Ha ha, I have like a 50-60% chance of a White Christmas :P
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Zilch for my area. Thanks, negative nancy.
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Playlist with TV footages on youtube.
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Looks like Bopha has been downgraded to the high end of category 3.

colorado state


201212040000 7.7 126 110


Pretty impressive for a TC that's been over land this long, particularly given elevation.
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440. Skyepony (Mod)

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Evacuation centers swell; CDO takes no chances
by Rappler.com
Posted on 12/04/2012 6:02 AM | Updated 12/04/2012 8:47 AM
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438. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
At 9:00AM 4/DEC/2012, the eye of Typhoon #PabloPH was located over Loreto Agusan Del Sur or @ 80km east southeast of Malaybalay, Bukidnon
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Quoting KoritheMan:


People keep expecting that huge drought region to disappear. I don't think it will though, at least not for any meaningful (as in a decade or longer) period of time. Global warming is seriously changing the structure of the weather on this planet, and there is no reason to assume it won't continue to do so. Incidentally, I do believe said drought is what's causing the subsident flow/sinking air pattern we've seen plague the Atlantic basin for the last two years. Also, I strongly believe the loss of arctic sea is contributing to the recurve pattern by enhancing an upstream east coast trough. Teleconnection patterns do exist.

People keep expecting to see another season like 2005 or 2008 (myself included), and while we will likely still see some, I think the hurricane seasons of old are a thing of the past. If I'm correct, major hurricanes will become rarer.

As of now, this is still an untested hypothesis, but it makes sense from a meteorological standpoint. It's a subject I intend to do much more research on. But I think 10 or 20 years down the line, it will have gained some credibility.
perhaps in the near future people in the ne conus will watch Icelandic highs as we in the se watched Burmuda highs as preventing storms from going out to sea
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