Nineteen Atlantic tropical storms 3 consecutive years: a very rare event

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:13 PM GMT on November 28, 2012

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The 2012 Atlantic hurricane season closes this Friday with another top-five tally for named storms--nineteen. This is the third consecutive year with nineteen named storms in the Atlantic, which is a remarkable level of activity for a three-year period. The closest comparable three-year period of activity occurred during 2003 - 2004 - 2005, when each season had fifteen-plus named storms. Since 1851, only two seasons--2005 (28 named storms) and 1933 (20 named storms)--have been busier than 2010, 2011, and 2012.


Figure 1. Preliminary tracks of the nineteen named storms from 2012. Image credit: National Hurricane Center.

How rare are 3 consecutive top-five hurricane seasons for named storms?
It is tremendously rare to get three consecutive top-five years in a database with a 162-year record. This would occur randomly just once every 34,000 years--assuming the database were unbiased, the climate were not changing, and a multi-year climate pattern favorable for active seasons were not present. However the database IS biased, the climate IS changing, and we have been in an active hurricane period that began in 1995. So, which of these factors may be responsible for recording three consecutive years with nineteen named storms? It is well-known that prior to the arrival of geostationary satellites in December 1966 and aircraft hurricane reconnaissance in 1945 that tropical storms in the Atlantic were under-counted. Landsea et al. (2004) theorized that we missed up to six named storms per year between 1851 - 1885, and up to four between 1886 - 1910. Landsea (2007) estimated the under-count to be 3.2 named storms per year between 1900 - 1965, and 1.0 per year between 1966 - 2002. Other studies have argued for lower under-counts. So, if we assume the highest under-counts estimated by Landsea et al. (2004) and Landsea (2007), here would be the top ten busiest Atlantic hurricane seasons since 1851:

2005: 28
1887: 25
1933: 23
1995: 20
2012, 2011, 2010, 1969, 1936: 19

So, 2012, 2011, and 2010 would still rank as top-five busiest seasons since 1851, but the odds of having three consecutive seasons with nineteen named storms would drop from a 1-in-34,000 year event to "only" a 1-in-5800 year event. More recently, Landsea et al. (2010) showed that the increasing trend in North Atlantic tropical storm frequency over the past 140 years was largely due to the increasing trend in short‐lived storms (storms lasting 2 days or less, called “shorties”), after the 1940s (Figure 2, top). They did not detect a significant increasing trend in medium‐ to long‐lived storms lasting more than 2 days. They wrote that “while it is possible that the recorded increase in short‐duration TCs [tropical cyclones] represents a real climate signal, we consider it is more plausible that the increase arises primarily from improvements in the quantity and quality of the observations, along with enhanced interpretation techniques.” Villarini et al. (2011), in a paper titled, "Is the recorded increase in short-duration North Atlantic tropical storms spurious?", agreed. They attempted to correlate increases in tropical Atlantic sea surface temperatures in recent decades to the increase in short-lived Atlantic tropical storms, and were unable to do so. They wrote: using statistical methods combined with the current understanding of the physical processes, we are unable to find support for the hypothesis that the century‐scale record of short‐lived tropical cyclones in the Atlantic contains a detectable real climate signal. Therefore, we interpret the long‐term secular increase in short‐duration North Atlantic tropical storms as likely to be substantially inflated by observing system changes over time. These results strongly suggest that studies examining the frequency of North Atlantic tropical storms over the historical era (between the 19th century and present) should focus on storms of duration greater than about 2 days. So, let's do that. If we look during the past three hurricane seasons at how many "shorties" were observed, we see that a large number that stayed at tropical storm strength for two days or less: six storms in 2010, six in 2011, and seven in 2012. This leaves the hurricane seasons of 2010, 2011, and 2012 with twelve to thirteen tropical storms that lasted more than two days. This doesn't stand out that much when looking at trends since 1878 (Figure 2, bottom); there are now 25 years in the 135-year record with twelve or more long-lived tropical cyclones. However, there are no previous occurrences of three consecutive years with at least twelve long-lived tropical storms, so 2010, 2011, and 2012 still represent an unprecedented level of tropical storm activity in the historical record, and we would expect such an event to occur randomly about once every 157 years. That's a pretty rare event, and it is possible that climate change, combined with the fact we are in an active hurricane period that began in 1995, contributed to this rare event.


Figure 2. Atlantic tropical cyclones between 1878 - 2012 that spent two days or less at tropical storm strength (top) and more than two days at tropical storm strength or hurricane strength (bottom.) Figure updated from Villarini, G., G. A. Vecchi, T. R. Knutson, and J. A. Smith (2011), "Is the recorded increase in short-duration North Atlantic tropical storms spurious?", J. Geophys. Res., 116, D10114, doi:10.1029/2010JD015493.

References
Landsea, C. W., C. Anderson, N. Charles, G. Clark, J. Dunion, J. Fernandez‐Partagas, P. Hungerford, C. Neumann, and M. Zimmer (2004), "The Atlantic hurricane database re‐analysis project: Documentation for 1851–1910 alterations and additions to the HURDAT database," in Hurricanes and Typhoons ‐ Past, Present, and Future, edited by R. J. Murnane and K. B. Liu, pp. 178–221, Columbia Univ. Press, New York.

Landsea, C. W., (2007), "Counting Atlantic tropical cyclones back to 1900," Eos, 88(18), 197-202.

Villarini, G., G. A. Vecchi, T. R. Knutson, and J. A. Smith (2011), "Is the recorded increase in short-duration North Atlantic tropical storms spurious?", J. Geophys. Res., 116, D10114, doi:10.1029/2010JD015493

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Those are the numbers all right. If the ticket is a) yours and b) real, I am surprised you are not shaking too much to type.
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Tornado prone areas around the world in red. Interesting.



That is interesting! I hope all is well In Aussie World
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Quoting AussieStorm:

But the NHC stopped the Hurricane watches and warnings and passed it onto the NWS to issue hurricane wind warnings. IMHO Sandy was handled badly by the NHC.
Um, I'm too tired to look for links, but I followed this closely.

This was not a unilateral decision by NHC. Heard a TV interview where NHC spokesman stated they were in favor of a different way of handling things. Seen a lot of debate when/where Sandy began a transition to subtropical and eventually became extra-tropical. You may be comparing surge prediction and total surge-tide if you think the (surge) forecast was off. It was not. Less than half the U.S. fatalities were drownings. The jury will be out for a while, meteorologically and policy-wise. With the unprecedented circumstances of the storm, the angle as it approached the U.S. coast, the population and infrastructure involved, seems to me the outcome was as best as could be expected. Maybe better than. After all, this was a big, bad storm. Non-negotiable. Out of human control.
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269. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #28
TROPICAL STORM BOPHA (T1224)
12:00 PM JST November 29 2012
=======================================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Near Caroline Islands

At 3:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Bopha (994 hPa) located at 3.8N 149.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0

Gale Force Winds
===============
150 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 4.2N 145.9E - 55 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm) Caroline Island
45 HRS: 5.5N 142.3E - 65 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Caroline Island
69 HRS: 6.7N 138.5E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Caroline Island
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
JTWC has kept Bopha at 55kts in their new advisory, considering all the mixed signals that was probably a smart move. They're predicting a strengthening Cat 3 equivalent moving towards the Philippines in 5 days:



Im back from work...

That forecast is not good for the Philippines. I have a friend living there. She was actually my ex.
sorry for that off topic data
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Isaac had better not be retired.
Every Hurricane of Isaac's nature to hit the US will cause that type of damage and memories and impact, its what makes hurricanes hurricanes...but we have a habit of thinking a storm did a lot of damage, therefore it should be retired.
Retired storms are only supposed to be so awful and of such great impact that it needs to be singled out and only have that name for all time.
That cant be said for Isaac.
It can be said for Sandy
I am almost sure it would be gone. other names had gone with less.the only way I see Isaac not going is now that Sandy has overshadow Isaac they would see his damage as nothing to her,but I think he is still going.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
JTWC has kept Bopha at 55kts in their new advisory, considering all the mixed signals that was probably a smart move. They're predicting a strengthening Cat 3 equivalent moving towards the Philippines in 5 days:



Philippines and Palau should keep a close eye on Bopha.
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JTWC has kept Bopha at 55kts in their new advisory, considering all the mixed signals that was probably a smart move. They're predicting a strengthening Cat 3 equivalent moving towards the Philippines in 5 days:

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Appears the very ragged eye is trying to show on satellite imagery.


It would be nice if there was a recent microwave pass that caught the center.


Good evening everyone, I just got back from court. Don't worry, I'm not in trouble or anything. This was an extra credit opportunity for AP government and it was interactive and interesting.
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Sea levels are rising faster than projected

New satellite measurements suggest that global sea levels are rising faster than the most recent projections by the United Nations' climate change panel.

The new report found that sea levels are rising at an annual rate of 0.12 inches (3.2 millimeters) — 60 percent faster than the best estimate of 0.08 inches (2 millimeters) per year, which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) calculated in 2007.

"This study shows once again that the IPCC is far from alarmist, but in fact has underestimated the problem of climate change," German oceanographer and climatologist Stefan Rahmstorf, who led the study, said in a statement. "That applies not just for sea-level rise, but also to extreme events and the Arctic sea-ice loss."

I saw a blog, sorry forget the link, where people in the comments pointed out that the IPCC was conservative by trying to estimate the most probable scenario. They pointed out that engineers would plan on conditions worse than the most likely when designing a system. Their point was that if we go by the IPCC reports then we are in effect making plans according to less than the worst conditions.
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Beautiful night in Tampa, the weather this time of year is absolutely gorgeous. Temperatures, in the 60's, moon shining, and ice skating in Curtis Hixon Park.




The Moon, and Jupiter(I think) over downtown Tampa.

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Quoting Skyepony:

This is why they called it FrankenSandy. If you read the comments in local articles from local people they knew what was coming. They were warned & either believed it or didn't.

Aussie~ The storm surge forecast wasn't off by more than a foot & a half. Considering all the things that make the tide, if it's expected to be that high anyone near the ocean knows it can go a little either way than forecast.

I saw a nice collection of video collected by the BBC on Sandy. People in Manhattan were lining up outside grocery stores to buy supplies before the storm. They knew about it and were taking it seriously. Why didn't everyone is the question. The word got out. People only had to act on it.

Edit: You may be able to watch it for free on Hulu. A lot of video you may have already seen--they collected stuff off youtube, facebook, wherever--but I had not seen the grocery store video elsewhere.
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Bopha:

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Sandy blasts $80B hole through debt talks

Link

Sandy, whatever it was, is not done causing fresh havoc, apparently~


That number is definitely that high because of the landfall location and just how expensive the densely populated NYC region is.

If you were to shift Sandy's landfall to a point where the sparsely populated Delmarva got the worst, we would certainly not have these extreme damage estimates.
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http://www.livescience.com/25097-sea-levels-risin g-faster-ipcc.html




The team involved in the new study included scientists from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, the consulting firm Tempo Analytics and the French Laboratoire d'Etudes en Geophysique et Oceanographie Spatiales (LEGOS).

Their findings appear today (Nov. 28) in the journal Environmental Research Letters...
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Sea levels are rising faster than projected

New satellite measurements suggest that global sea levels are rising faster than the most recent projections by the United Nations' climate change panel.

The new report found that sea levels are rising at an annual rate of 0.12 inches (3.2 millimeters) — 60 percent faster than the best estimate of 0.08 inches (2 millimeters) per year, which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) calculated in 2007.

"This study shows once again that the IPCC is far from alarmist, but in fact has underestimated the problem of climate change," German oceanographer and climatologist Stefan Rahmstorf, who led the study, said in a statement. "That applies not just for sea-level rise, but also to extreme events and the Arctic sea-ice loss."
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Isaac had better not be retired.
Every Hurricane of Isaac's nature to hit the US will cause that type of damage and memories and impact, its what makes hurricanes hurricanes...but we have a habit of thinking a storm did a lot of damage, therefore it should be retired.
Retired storms are only supposed to be so awful and of such great impact that it needs to be singled out and only have that name for all time.
That cant be said for Isaac.
It can be said for Sandy
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Excellent Quarantine practices. Let's just go ahead and spread it to everyone in the most efficient manner possible: by bring an infectee a quarter of the way around the world to a hospital on a different continent. Brilliant containment strategy!


That's what you can do if you have Qatar-type funds! I was quarantined in the Toronto SARS outbreak in 2003. I had been a pneumonia patient in the hospital that had an outbreak the following week. Quarantine was not a lot of fun. It was worse for my spouse. I has quit smoking the prior week (no choice, really) and he was stuck indoors with me for 10 days -no reprieves. Yes, we are still together.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
While the first week of December is expected to be abnormally warm, the second week may not follow. In fact, many of the models show a drastic cool-down. And of those models, many of their ensemble images show snow for the Northern and Central Plains into the Ohio Valley and up into the Northeast. And of those ensemble members, some go completely crazy with snow totals, such as p007 of the 12z GFS.

How does 20-30 inches of snow for a corridor from Daveport, IA to Kansas City, KS to End, OK to Childress, TX sound?


Whoa hello, just need those snowfall totals to move a little east some and I'll be fine. They have been showing this cool down for a little while now and it could certainly happen.
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Quoting Dakster:


Great... Isn't that how every apocalyptic virus movie starts?


Been seeing reports of that for some weeks now in the alternative press sites. At this point, probably not to worry .... if it were the right degree of contagious, there would be a much bigger problem by now. It could always mutate, but so could lots of things.

There is a lot on this WHO site ... including regularly updated outbreak info:

Link
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Here's a pretty good windup of the OMG-ables of Sandy, from the perspective of one week on:

The Complete Story of Sandy: a Timeline of Horror and Recovery

Link

There's a lot there.... might want to make a bowl of popcorn before tearing into it.
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246. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #27
TROPICAL STORM BOPHA (T1224)
9:00 AM JST November 29 2012
=======================================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Near Chuuk

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Bopha (994 hPa) located at 4.0N 150.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0

Gale Force Winds
===============
150 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 4.2N 146.0E - 55 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm) Caroline Island
48 HRS: 5.5N 142.3E - 65 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Caroline Island
72 HRS: 6.7N 138.5E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Caroline Island

Additional Information
========================
Bopha will move west from the next 24 hours then move west northwestward at the same speed in the next three days

Bopha will be upgraded to a severe tropical storm within 24 hours

Bopha will develop because spiral cloud bands have become well organized and cyclone will stay in a high sea surface temperature area

Final initial Dvorak number will be 4.0 after 24 hours
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Sandy blasts $80B hole through debt talks

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Sandy, whatever it was, is not done causing fresh havoc, apparently~
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Excellent Quarantine practices. Let's just go ahead and spread it to everyone in the most efficient manner possible: by bring an infectee a quarter of the way around the world to a hospital on a different continent. Brilliant containment strategy!


Great... Isn't that how every apocalyptic virus movie starts?
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Quoting sunlinepr:
Looks like winter will increase the seasonal flu in the middle east....

Deadly new SARS-like virus reported in outbreak in Middle East: 2 dead
Posted on November 26, 2012
November 26, 2012 – SAUDI ARABIA - A new Coronavirus similar in nature to severe acute respiratory syndrome or SARS, has infected six and has resulted in two deaths in the Middle East, media reports said. The number of reported cases as well as the number of fatalities linked with the respiratory ailment doubled on Friday, as the second person was reported killed and three more infections had been reported by the World Health Organization. Both fatalities occurred in Saudi Arabia, and reports of the virus had been limited to that country and Qatar and one man had been transported to UK for treatment.


Excellent Quarantine practices. Let's just go ahead and spread it to everyone in the most efficient manner possible: by bring an infectee a quarter of the way around the world to a hospital on a different continent. Brilliant containment strategy!
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Quoting indianrivguy:


I agree with that Aussie, but seriously, after a week of pounding them with what was coming, I find it hard to believe that any normal person had no awareness. If after ALL that, they decided to not leave because someone quit calling it a hurricane 12 hours before it arrived, even though ALL the warnings about surge were in place and continued, then they qualify for a Darwin award. My money says all those folks would have ignored ANY warning and stayed no matter.


No they wouldn't... Even in a mandatory evacuation there is only so much that law enforcement can do. I guess it is natures way of adding some chlorine to the gene pool...

Speaking of which - I think that the water in Sydney could use a little chlorine.
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


The scientists do not have "command" of the data. Most scientific data is freely available online.

Climate scientists dismiss/ignore people who deserve to be dismissed or ignored. The fact is, most so-called skeptics aren't skeptics at all. They are deniers, and responding to them with facts or data, no matter how convincing is a waste of time (as can be seen here on this blog). Deniers are like someone being diagnosed by multiple respectable doctors that they have cancer, them not believing the doctors, and then seeking out quacks who tell them they're just fine.

Scientists have much more productive uses for their time than responding to every yahoo who says "It's da sun, stoopid scientist!".

Scientists have no budget for PR. Unlike billion dollar companies who pay out more in PR money than entire science budgets, there isn't a whole lot of spare change for such niceties.

And lastly, technology is neutral. Like always, it's the people who use it that can cause problems.


It's getting a little far afield to discuss, but it is important to not let it pass:

We somehow assume that 'technology is neutral', but it is not always so, and possibly is never so.

A good example is television. It is NOT neutral because:

*) You need to have a certain amount of money, education and experience to buy or assemble and then run, a TV station, or create a TV product.

*) The very structure of the communication involved is one to many, with little feedback, and that indirect.

*) Television, by its very nature, changes minds: repeated studies show that people sitting down in front of TV flip into a suggestive alpha state very quickly.

The above exceptions are true regardless of the most noble and well meaning interests imaginable.... the problems are fundamental to the technology, especially as it was experienced in the 20th century.

*)TV requires a substantial amount of money such that, not only does the station owner need to have a certain amount to even think about sitting down at the table, but outside interests must contribute. In america, that means corporations, generally.

Well.... the list could go on for quite a ways... if you are interested, it forms a quarter of the book (written by a former TV exec, Jerry Mander) called "Four Arguments For The Elimination Of Television".

But that technology has shaping features part of their inherent make-up is the point. Pick a technology, and see if you fathom out some of its shaping dynamics...!
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Evening all.

This is a really great blog entry from the Doc. Thanks for it, Doc... I enjoyed reading.

I have to admit it seemed we would never get to the end of the season.... lol

WE had another cold front go through the NW Bahamas today. I'm wondering if we will rebound by having a warmer than average January....
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:


It might be worth the repeating: Not everyone is a weather nerd. They follow it no closer than you or I might follow some marginal OTC stock, current womens' fashions in northern India, or what is happening on TV.
Where organizations and their responsibilities interface, borderland rules, often DMZ rules apply, unless specific action is taken to address the issue.


This is why they called it FrankenSandy. If you read the comments in local articles from local people they knew what was coming. They were warned & either believed it or didn't.

Aussie~ The storm surge forecast wasn't off by more than a foot & a half. Considering all the things that make the tide, if it's expected to be that high anyone near the ocean knows it can go a little either way than forecast.
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Looks like winter will increase the seasonal flu in the middle east....

Deadly new SARS-like virus reported in outbreak in Middle East: 2 dead
Posted on November 26, 2012
November 26, 2012 – SAUDI ARABIA - A new Coronavirus similar in nature to severe acute respiratory syndrome or SARS, has infected six and has resulted in two deaths in the Middle East, media reports said. The number of reported cases as well as the number of fatalities linked with the respiratory ailment doubled on Friday, as the second person was reported killed and three more infections had been reported by the World Health Organization. Both fatalities occurred in Saudi Arabia, and reports of the virus had been limited to that country and Qatar and one man had been transported to UK for treatment. WHO initially issued a global warning about the disease in September, and cautioned that a Qatar man who had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia had become infected with a virus that had previously never been detected in humans, where a second man had died from the same disease. The new disease shares some of the symptom of SARS, a Coronavirus that surfaced in China in 2002 and killed around 10% of the 8,000 people who contracted it worldwide. Amongst these symptoms are coughing, breathing difficulty and high fever. The WHO officials said, they would continue their surveillance for severe acute respiratory infections and until more information becomes available, it would be prudent to consider that the virus is likely more widely distributed than just the two countries that have identified cases. They also suggested that anyone suffering from unexplained pneumonia should be tested for the new virus, even if they have not travelled to either Qatar or Saudi Arabia. Besides, they also stated, they would continue to work with officials in both the countries to gain a better understanding of the disease, and noted additional epidemiological and scientific studies were needed to learn more about this SARS- like ailment. –Health Care Global
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Quoting pottery:
Hey, you guys need to go out and check the FullMoon right now.
There's a Planet (Venus?) right alongside looking like a Luna Satellite.

Real nice cloudfree night here.


According to a Google search, that's actually Jupiter.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's possible for Venus to be visible beside a full moon.
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Quoting indianrivguy:


I agree with that Aussie, but seriously, after a week of pounding them with what was coming, I find it hard to believe that any normal person had no awareness. If after ALL that, they decided to not leave because someone quit calling it a hurricane 12 hours before it arrived, even though ALL the warnings about surge were in place and continued, then they qualify for a Darwin award. My money says all those folks would have ignored ANY warning and stayed no matter.


It might be worth the repeating: Not everyone is a weather nerd. They follow it no closer than you or I might follow some marginal OTC stock, current womens' fashions in northern India, or what is happening on TV.
Where organizations and their responsibilities interface, borderland rules, often DMZ rules apply, unless specific action is taken to address the issue.
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Quoting Skyepony:


Got the telescope on it now. November moon lore is in the comments of my blog.

Nice !
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Quoting pottery:
Hey, you guys need to go out and check the FullMoon right now.
There's a Planet (Venus?) right alongside looking like a Luna Satellite.

Real nice cloudfree night here.


Got the telescope on it now. November moon lore is in the comments of my blog.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
While the first week of December is expected to be abnormally warm, the second week may not follow. In fact, many of the models show a drastic cool-down. And of those models, many of their ensemble images show snow for the Northern and Central Plains into the Ohio Valley and up into the Northeast. And of those ensemble members, some go completely crazy with snow totals, such as p007 of the 12z GFS.

How does 20-30 inches of snow for a corridor from Daveport, IA to Kansas City, KS to End, OK to Childress, TX sound?



It sounds brutal for the highways but there is nothing as good as snow for putting moisture in the ground.
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The milestone first stage of the new sarcophagus for Chernobyl’s nuclear power station has been completed. The unique construction to safely contain the radioactive emissions of Chernobyl for the next 100 years will be ready by October 2015.

­The unprecedented new shelter will be 108m high (equivalent to a 30-story apartment building), 257m wide, and 150m long (almost two football fields). The approximate weight of the structure will be 29,000 tons.

The final cost of the New Safe Confinement and future nuclear waste site is expected to reach 1.54 billion euro.



BRAVE PEOPLE.... WORKING WITHOUT PROTECTION....??
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227. Skyepony (Mod)
Dr Masters~ Excellent stats in this entry!

Quoting yoboi:



have you ever went to a fossil fuel company and tried talking with them?


Their thoughts are out there to see..Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil Corp earlier this summer~ He has abandon funding writers who challenged prevailing climate science & gone on to state "Global warming is real, but you'll learn to live with it. Besides, nobody can really predict the future. Oh, and that thing about hydrofracking being unsafe -- all lies! Trust Exxon."
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Hey, you guys need to go out and check the FullMoon right now.
There's a Planet (Venus?) right alongside looking like a Luna Satellite.

Real nice cloudfree night here.

EDIT...Actually, it's Jupiter. YLee corrected me. Thanks YLee !
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