Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Quoting Dakster:
Nice marbles Aussie... Those would leave a mark coming down.

Currently Lightning in WA


It's been going since 1pm WST. now 11:13WST

Quoting Neapolitan:
I'm very thankful this morning that, despite our clear skies and light winds overnight, the low dewpoint prevented an outbreak of severe fog. I was prepared for that outbreak; I stashed away a week's worth of food (well, it was Thanksgiving leftovers), and I made sure my flashlight had fresh batteries so I could see my way from the parking lot into the mall. I know it's easy to be complacent where fog is concerned, as many people think these low-hanging clouds are simply products of very stable weather. But that's because they haven't yet been made aware of just how severe fog outbreaks can be. Fog is the quiet, dampening menace best summed up by one of America's great poets:

Fog

The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

--Carl Sandburg

Now, if that isn't the perfect description of severe weather, I don't know what is... ;-)

UK Weather: Met Office issues severe weather warning as thick fog ... Oct 22, 2012 ... Heavy fog has halted planes across England and Europe, with Heathrow Airport
cancelling more than 120 flights today as the Met Office issues ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221343/UK-Weath er-Met-Office-issues-severe-weather-warning-fog-le ads-120-cancelled-flights.html

Good Mornin' All,

Webcam from my area..



My WU weather..freeze warning for tonight..

1 KM Visible Satellite for Florida




Looking good for some important college football today..

Quoting yoboi:





UK Weather: Met Office issues severe weather warning as thick fog ... Oct 22, 2012 ... Heavy fog has halted planes across England and Europe, with Heathrow Airport
cancelling more than 120 flights today as the Met Office issues ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221343/UK-Weath er-Met-Office-issues-severe-weather-warning-fog-le ads-120-cancelled-flights.html

Here is Florida dense fog can be way more of a dangerous situation than any one severe summer thunderstorm that has 55mph winds and pea size hail. Just ask the families of those who lost loved ones from car pile ups on the interstates or the back roads when you can't see 5 feet in front of you. To some idiots, that is not a dangerous situation and is compared to sunshine or light rain.

Quoting luvtogolf:


Here is Florida dense fog can be way more of a dangerous situation than any one severe summer thunderstorm that has 55mph winds and pea size hail. Just ask the families of those who lost loved ones from car pile ups on the interstates or the back roads when you can't see 5 feet in front of you. To some idiots, that is not a dangerous situation and is compared to sunshine or light rain.

We get some dense fog here about 4-5 days a year..and as can be predicted,someone causes a death by not slowing their car speeds down for the dangerous conditions..I don't know whether it (fog) should be considered severe weather or dangerous weather,but to those families that have lost loved one's due to this condition,just as you said,they would probably consider fog a severe condition..Just My 2 cents worth on the subject..

Where are posts #351 and 352?

Fog is indeed a danger to drivers; I've not seen anyone claim otherwise. But so are such other weather-related hazards as light rain, dew, frost, and blinding morning sun. Clearly, then, danger to drivers alone is not enough to warrant labeling any particular meteorological phenomenon "severe weather", despite what some may think.

On a related note--and further bolstering Dr. Masters' claim that U.S. weather has been this week been "tranquil and record-warm"--record high temperatures across the United States over the last six days have outnumbered record low temperatures by a very un-Novemberlike 776 to 28. Very nice...

Current Aviation Data..



Lots of air travel again today..
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Current Jet Stream..

Quoting originalLT:
Where are posts #351 and 352?

Not sure, but maybe one was mine..It's a teacher's pet thing I believe.

Quoting Neapolitan:
The "single location" reference is way back in the comment queue; you'd have to read back to the beginning to understand the context. The bottom line, however, is this: some people will argue with certain other people about virtually anything.

Anyway, while some here may wish to apply the term "severe weather" to fog events, I've found no meteorological agency that does so. The fact is, if fog can be classified as severe weather merely because it can lead to traffic accidents, then light rains are severe weather, too. And frost. And dew. And bright clear mornings that cause the low sun to cause temporary driver blindness...Skin cancer is dangerous. The sun causes skin cancer. Therefore, sunny days are severe weather.

Got it. Thanks! ;-)

if is especially dark,due to lack of moonlight,maybe it should have a name,like our winter storms

Quoting drs2008:
if is especially dark,due to lack of moonlight,maybe it should have a name,like our winter storms

Fog Fifi, Fog Felicia, Fog Fawn, Sounds ok to me

Quoting PensacolaDoug:

Yep, still near record lows for this time of year.

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A nice reminder that "eyeball statistics" are rarely that good. Look at the actual data, analyze the typical ranges and percentiles, then put the data in context. It means orders of magnitude more in science than just eyeballing two plots.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll briefly brush (even exceed) average again this winter before it quickly jumps back into 2 standard deviation low territory.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Fog is indeed a danger to drivers; I've not seen anyone claim otherwise. But so are such other weather-related hazards as light rain, dew, frost, and blinding morning sun. Clearly, then, danger to drivers alone is not enough to warrant labeling any particular meteorological phenomenon "severe weather", despite what some may think.

On a related note--and further bolstering Dr. Masters' claim that U.S. weather has been this week been "tranquil and record-warm"--record high temperatures across the United States over the last six days have outnumbered record low temperatures by a very un-Novemberlike 776 to 28. Very nice...

UK Weather: Met Office issues severe weather warning as thick fog ... Oct 22, 2012 ... Heavy fog has halted planes across England and Europe, with Heathrow Airport
cancelling more than 120 flights today as the Met Office issues ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221343/UK-Weath er-Met-Office-issues-severe-weather-warning-fog-le ads-120-cancelled-flights.html

South Indian Ocean has BOLDWIN. Great storm name or what? 97S is dead. 90W Looking gamely.

BOLDWIN~ Small & strong for it's pressure.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Fog is indeed a danger to drivers; I've not seen anyone claim otherwise. But so are such other weather-related hazards as light rain, dew, frost, and blinding morning sun. Clearly, then, danger to drivers alone is not enough to warrant labeling any particular meteorological phenomenon "severe weather", despite what some may think.

Although examples seem to have been provided for other countries and their respective meteorological agencies, here in the US, fog is not really treated as a severe weather event by the National Weather Service. Severe weather typically uses the watch/warning scale of products. Severe weather typically requires immediate action by all the warned persons to significantly reduce the chance of property damage, injury, or death. Nuisance weather typically is addressed with advisories, not warnings. Nuisance weather may increase the chance of property damage, injury, or death, but typically not to the same degree and many times only to people in certain situations.

Fog may be a nuisance to most, but is only dangerous in some situations. The US National Weather Service does not issue "fog watches" or "fog warnings" but instead "dense fog advisories," and as such, it is officially considered a nuisance weather phenomena and not a short fuse severe weather phenomena.

Eye is becoming more apparent again.

Quoting ScottLincoln:

Although examples seem to have been provided for other countries and their respect meteorological agencies, here in the US, fog is not really treated as a severe weather event by the National Weather Service. Severe weather typically uses the watch/warning scale of products. Severe weather typically requires immediate action by all the warned persons to significantly reduce the chance of property damage, injury, or death. Nuisance weather typically is addressed with advisories, not warnings. Nuisance weather may increase the chance of property damage, injury, or death, but typically not to the same degree and many times only to people in certain situations.

Fog may be a nuisance to most, but is only dangerous in some situations. The US National Weather Service does not issue "fog watches" or "fog warnings" but instead "dense fog advisories," and as such, it is officially considered a nuisance weather phenomena and not a short fuse severe weather phenomena.

so we can only use what the USA says???? if so please only use USA stats with climate change....

Haha. Somebody was bound to post Carl Sandburg.

In the dark, in a fog. The level of danger is directly proportional to what you're doing and with whom.
:)

In a pure weather sense, the only "severe" references in the NWS glossary mention thunderstorm weather. Classic definition, I'd call it. Far as I'm concerned, "severe" by any other name would stink.

Nice sunny cold windless morning in GA....
Not the least bit of fog....

UGA all the way today, should be some perfect weather, if not a little chilly

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Fog Fifi, Fog Felicia, Fog Fawn, Sounds ok to me

This is funny...I wuz wondering what natural phenom would get monikers next..I thought CME,s at first..

Good morning everyone.
I can't believe some are still arguing over fog. It is not considered severe weather, deal with it.

Anyway... Boldwin is looking good this morning. The eye and eyewall are still shown on microwave images and the satellite appearance is looking better.

Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Nice sunny cold windless morning in GA....
Not the least bit of fog....

UGA all the way today, should be some perfect weather, if not a little chilly

It is a cold cloudy morning with some flurries in SE MI, no fog. I'm ready for the Michigan vs Ohio State game in 30 minutes.

Quoting yoboi:



UK Weather: Met Office issues severe weather warning as thick fog ... Oct 22, 2012 ... Heavy fog has halted planes across England and Europe, with Heathrow Airport
cancelling more than 120 flights today as the Met Office issues ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221343/UK-Weath er-Met-Office-issues-severe-weather-warning-fog-le ads-120-cancelled-flights.html

I guess we should not call it severe. How about extremely dangerous or hazardous. I've driven in light rain once or twice in my life and didn't feel like I was in a serious situation. I've driven in fog on highways or even more scary some back roads and I will tell you that it is a very very dangerous situation. I guess not severe.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Fog is indeed a danger to drivers; I've not seen anyone claim otherwise. But so are such other weather-related hazards as light rain, dew, frost, and blinding morning sun.

Oddly enough, fog is only the cause of about 1% of traffic accidents, so by itself it is not too dangerous. But, the likelihood that you will die in a fog related accident is 2 to 4 times higher. 1:64 fatality ratio in fog vs 1:205 on wet pavement.

Fog is one of the few driving conditions that cause drivers to speed up. It deprives us of the visual clues we normally base our speed on, drivers become so intent on looking for things on the road in front of them, they don't look at the speedometer. When the driver does reach other traffic on the road the speed differences can be high and the breaking distances very short. Leading to the high rate of fatalities.

Calling fog severe weather isn't going to fix the drivers. In the end technology will do the most good. Having your car tell you that you can't see farther then it will take to stop will save many people.

Quoting hydrus:

I figured the NAO wouldn't plummet like the GFS showed a few days ago.

I've not released a winter forecast yet...I should probably get busy on making a graphic for that. Overall though, I'm expecting a normal winter for much of the eastern half of the United States...up until late January anyways. After that, I think we'll see a true winter pattern settle in, with numerous winter storms for the mid-Atlantic.

As for the west, it should generally be warmer and wetter.

Can we not bring up "fog"? Can anyone suppy me with a date that we will not speak of "fog" ? It has been maybe 18 hours now...Nea, I hope you are done with the past posts regarding this subject, maybe yes, maybe no. I have had enough.

The flooding down the street from us is very bad. The seawall is gone and it is getting worse in Fort Lauderdale.

Link

Quoting yoboi:



so we can only use what the USA says???? if so please only use USA stats with climate change....

A completely irrelevant distraction when it comes to discussing how fog is treated in the United States. The original discussion starting posts and posts ago seemed to revolve around pile-ups and accidents regarding fog. Most discussed accidents in this very country, and it seemed to stem from the recent pile-up in Texas. Perhaps in other countries that rarely, if ever, see tornadoes and severe hail as we do, or even hurricanes/avalanches/deadly wind chills/etc as we do, fog may be their typical "most severe" weather phenomena. Here in the U.S., that is generally not treated as such. People seem to have provided numerous links to this fact, including meteorological definitions and official agency policies, yet it still keeps being brought up. Perhaps we should just agree that officially-speaking, a few countries may consider fog as a severe weather event but most do not, and in particular, the United States does not, then upon agreeing to this just let this go instead of posting the same type of unofficial news articles over and over.

(And, in case anyone wanted to irrelevantly go there, virtually all climate and meteorological agencies and professional organizations in the U.S. agree with the same climate science as the entire world does. The official temperature records from NOAA/NCDC show the same rate of warming for the globe.)

Quoting Grothar:
The flooding down the street from us is very bad. The seawall is gone and it is getting worse in Fort Lauderdale.

Link

Gro, I think the county and cities are realizing that they underestimated the damage...It seems like Delray Beach damage may be a few million more than first realized.

Oh, by the way, the flooding is severe.

Quoting Grothar:
Oh, by the way, the flooding is severe.

Ranks up in there with severe fog

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Ranks up in there with severe fog

I can't believe I said that..I am a freekin' hippocrit

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Gro, I think the county and cities are realizing that they underestimated the damage...It seems like Delray Beach damage may be a few million more than first realized.

It is getting worse since last night. Palm Beach is supposed to get much more today. This has been going on since Sandy went by us, but I've only see this much damage in a bad storm. Most of A1A has been closed by us.

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I can't believe I said that..I am a freekin' hippocrit

Speaking of hippocrits.......Did you know that the Hippo is the most dangerous animal in the world? I always thought it was the "Honey Badger" then next was my ex-hubby "Doug"

Cut & paste. I think some on here might have this.


A clinical definition of brain fog. Brain fog may be described as feelings of mental confusion or lack of mental clarity. It is called brain fog because it can feel like a cloud that reduces your ability to think clearly. It can cause a person to become forgetful, detached and often discouraged and depressed. It usually is present most of the time, meaning it does not come and go, although it may become better or worse depending on what a person eats, or one’s state of rest and hydration.

Brain fog is not recognized as a clinical diagnosis because it is not easy to test for it. It is quite subjective, in other words. The person just knows that they do not function well, and the mind often seems foggy or cloudy. This is not the same as dementia, mental retardation, anxiety, depression or other common mental symptoms. I hope that medical doctors will soon expand their diagnostic ability to assess brain fog, but for now it is a subjective condition, though it is very real.

Brain fog is quite common. It affects thousands of people, including children as well as adults. It contributes to school and work problems, low self-esteem, accidents, unhappy relationships and often is a factor in crime and delinquency because it can cause intense frustration and inability to function well in society.

The onset of brain fog. Some people have had brain fog for most of their lives, and may even think their state of mind is normal. In some other cases, it comes on slowly with age or time. In still other instances, it may develop almost overnight, perhaps after a mild flu or other illness, or perhaps after a toxic exposure.

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Speaking of hippocrits.......Did you know that the Hippo is the most dangerous animal in the world? I always thought it was the "Honey Badger" then next was my ex-hubby "Doug"

You can add a Grizzly or Kodiak bear with rabies to that list of most dangerous animals.

Quoting hydrus:
You can add a Grizzly bear with rabies to that list of most dangerous animals.

hydrus........You made me think of "Old Yeller" I cried for weeks when I was a little girl. And now you bring up "Old Grizzly" Sigh

Quoting hydrus:
You can add a Grizzly or Kodiak bear with rabies to that list of most dangerous animals.

BTW.Grizzly's and Kodiak's are the same bear...It happens to be where they grew up........... I spent 2 years in Alaska, way back.

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
BTW.Grizzly's and Kodiak's are the same bear...It happens to be where they grew up........... I spent 2 years in Alaska, way back.

I thought Kodiaks were larger.

Quoting hydrus:
I thought Kodiaks were larger.

Nope........ Same bear

Quoting hydrus:
I thought Kodiaks were larger.

Wouldn't want to meet either one in a dark alley

Quoting yonzabam:
Cut & paste. I think some on here might have this.


A clinical definition of brain fog. Brain fog may be described as feelings of mental confusion or lack of mental clarity. It is called brain fog because it can feel like a cloud that reduces your ability to think clearly. It can cause a person to become forgetful, detached and often discouraged and depressed. It usually is present most of the time, meaning it does not come and go, although it may become better or worse depending on what a person eats, or one’s state of rest and hydration.

Brain fog is not recognized as a clinical diagnosis because it is not easy to test for it. It is quite subjective, in other words. The person just knows that they do not function well, and the mind often seems foggy or cloudy. This is not the same as dementia, mental retardation, anxiety, depression or other common mental symptoms. I hope that medical doctors will soon expand their diagnostic ability to assess brain fog, but for now it is a subjective condition, though it is very real.

Brain fog is quite common. It affects thousands of people, including children as well as adults. It contributes to school and work problems, low self-esteem, accidents, unhappy relationships and often is a factor in crime and delinquency because it can cause intense frustration and inability to function well in society.

The onset of brain fog. Some people have had brain fog for most of their lives, and may even think their state of mind is normal. In some other cases, it comes on slowly with age or time. In still other instances, it may develop almost overnight, perhaps after a mild flu or other illness, or perhaps after a toxic exposure.

My brain fog is worse in the mornings but clears up somewhat around mid-day.

Quoting yonzabam:
Cut & paste. I think some on here might have this.


A clinical definition of brain fog. Brain fog may be described as feelings of mental confusion or lack of mental clarity. It is called brain fog because it can feel like a cloud that reduces your ability to think clearly. It can cause a person to become forgetful, detached and often discouraged and depressed. It usually is present most of the time, meaning it does not come and go, although it may become better or worse depending on what a person eats, or one’s state of rest and hydration.

Brain fog is not recognized as a clinical diagnosis because it is not easy to test for it. It is quite subjective, in other words. The person just knows that they do not function well, and the mind often seems foggy or cloudy. This is not the same as dementia, mental retardation, anxiety, depression or other common mental symptoms. I hope that medical doctors will soon expand their diagnostic ability to assess brain fog, but for now it is a subjective condition, though it is very real.

Brain fog is quite common. It affects thousands of people, including children as well as adults. It contributes to school and work problems, low self-esteem, accidents, unhappy relationships and often is a factor in crime and delinquency because it can cause intense frustration and inability to function well in society.

The onset of brain fog. Some people have had brain fog for most of their lives, and may even think their state of mind is normal. In some other cases, it comes on slowly with age or time. In still other instances, it may develop almost overnight, perhaps after a mild flu or other illness, or perhaps after a toxic exposure.

Can it be severe???

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Wouldn't want to meet either one in a dark alley

Or one that was well lit.

Quoting schwankmoe:


every time i hear the denier crowd complaining about how nea is a big meanie with his 'backhanded insults' or whatever, i remember comments like this. you guys are no better at all.

it just goes to show that it isn't really about how the guy talks, it's merely that he consistently presents the case that climate change is real and human-caused, and you're just trying to rationalize telling him to shut up about it.

Are you the president of his fan club?

Quoting eyeofbetsy:


My brain fog is worse in the mornings but clears up somewhat around mid-day.

I have brain freeze from eating the "Oreo Blizzard" at Dairy Queen

90W is an interesting feature that given the very low latitude it could break Vamei's record for the southernmost formation in the WPAC at 1.4ºN. The next lowest storm was Typhoon Sarah in 1956, which formed at 2.4ºN. Both stats based on the best track from the Japan Meteorological Agency. Definitely a storm to keep an eye on.

The most dangerous animal is Man,especially in heavy fog! I had to do it!