A tranquil and record-warm Thanksgiving for much of the U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:35 PM GMT on November 23, 2012

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Celebrations of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States in 2012 were aided by some of the most tranquil travel weather ever seen on what is America's busiest travel week. Unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday, with many locations in the Midwest reporting their warmest Thanksgiving Day on record. At least three cities set records for their warmest temperature ever recorded so late in the year: Valentine, Nebraska (76° on Wednesday); Rochester, Minnesota (70° on Wednesday); and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan (65° on Thursday.) While the quiet weather was a boon for travelers, the lack of rain in the Midwest allowed the nation's worst drought since 1954 to expand; the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought expanded by 1% to 60% this week. This reversed a seven-week trend of slowly decreasing drought that began on September 25 and extended until November 13, when the area covered by drought declined from 65% to 59%. The latest ten-day forecasts from the GFS and ECMWF models show much below average chances of precipitation across more 90% of the U.S., including the drought regions. These dry conditions will allow the drought to expand over the next two weeks, and potentially cover 65% of the contiguous U.S. again by mid-December. The next chance for significant rains in excess of one inch in the Midwest will not occur until December 2, at the earliest. The lack of rain will potentially cause serious trouble for barge traffic on the Mississippi River by December 10, when the river may fall below the level of -5 feet at St. Louis needed to allow barges to not scrape bottom.


Figure 1. This week's U.S. Drought Monitor shows 60% of the contiguous U.S. was in moderate or greater drought.


Figure 2. Predicted 8-day precipitation amounts from the 06Z (1 am EST) November 23, 2012 run of the GFS model. For the 8-day period ending on Saturday, December 1, only the Northwest Coast, Central Gulf Coast, and portions of the Tennessee Valley are predicted to receive rains in excess of one inch. Image credit: NOAA.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss today, and none of the reliable models is forecasting tropical cyclone development between now and the Friday, November 30 official end of hurricane season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of one more named storm forming in December in the middle Atlantic between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, but late-season storms forming in that location rarely affect land.

Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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HappyThanksgiving! (suzi46)
to all our wonderful WU Community..a frigid and frosty daybreak at our neighbor's pond..heading up to a sunny and beautiful 50 degree afternoon..:)
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there's always light..
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Quoting eyeofbetsy:


I envy their dark skies before light pollution. I have to travel to west Texas to see the Milky Way rise like an approaching storm cloud.
It is amazing what you can see in the middle of the Atlantic on a clear and moonless night. One can see satellites, numerous shooting stars, and other things that we did not know what they were. they were fast movers though.
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Quoting Bielle:


How about, for all of us, some long-term thoughtful plans not affiliated with any political entity, but for the good of the planet and all the peoples on it -plans that extend beyond blame, beyond greed, and beyond power?





Just how do you make this work?
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2012

How the myth of fossil fuel abundance actually impedes progress on climate change

The great fear among those working to address climate change is that the seemingly vast resources of fossil fuels waiting to be burned will send the world hurtling toward certain catastrophe. By invoking fossil fuel abundance, climate activists believe that their argument for a rapid transition to alternative energy is made more persuasive. But, it is poor strategy to reinforce the myth of fossil fuel abundance when doing so actually makes many people less open to such an argument. And, as it turns out, the abundance argument is also contrary to the available data, logic and prudent risk management principles.

Here is what I mean. First, despite all the hype about marginal gains in U.S. oil production, world oil production has been on a plateau since 2005. Small gains in U.S. production have been offset by declining production in the rest of the world. The news for coal production is only slightly less discouraging as one study suggests that the rate of coal production worldwide could peak as early as 2025. In the United States, while coal tonnage has remained essentially flat from 1998 through 2011, energy content has actually declined. Has the available energy from U.S. coal production already peaked? We can't be sure. But the trend suggests caution....



http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/2012/11/how- myth-of-fossil-fuel-abundance.html



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91W looking very good.

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:



So what's the solution? Assuming GW is A. A one world government imposing it's will at gunpoint? A dictatorship in the USA so we don't keep changing governments every 4 to 8 years? Kinda scary sounding.




How about, for all of us, some long-term, thoughtful plans not affiliated with any political entity, but for the good of the planet and all the peoples on it -plans that extend beyond blame, beyond greed, and beyond power?
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Quoting hydrus:
Miss Cleo predicted that on 12/21/12 I would pack my bong and eat cookies.


LOL hydrus!
Whether there was an impending apocalypse on the way or not, right?
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Quoting DocNDswamp:


That that were, Largo. Quite an advanced civilization (as were the Olmecs preceding them)... However, I kinda believe the human sacrifice thing wasn't the best of karma for their future!
yes alot of cultures back then practiced sacrifice, religion and the gods etc..but the Maya amaze me, way back in history class,yes im ancient lol..but back then i got all A's for researching the Maya and handing in papers on them..I was young yes but it was fun doing the research..in the mid 80's when i was in the news biz, we were covering the economic summit in cancun mexico and i had 3 weeks there..in our off time we visitedf some of the ruins there..it was like i was travelling back into my past..seeing where the mayans lived etc..was pretty cool indeed...
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Quoting LargoFl:
Ancient cultures recognised four major dates within each year: the two solstices (when days are at their longest or shortest) and the two equinoxes (when the lengths of day and night are equal). They could tell when these dates were approaching by watching which stars were on the horizon at sunrise and sunset, and where they were relative to the sun. If you watched for long enough, for hundreds of years, then it became apparent that the stars were moving slightly out of position each year. The star that was due east at the winter solstice sunset 70 years ago is one degree out today. The Greek astronomer Hipparchus (c. 190-120 BC) is widely acknowledged as the discoverer of the precession of the equinoxes, yet the ancient Egyptians and Maya were also aware of it.


Read more: http://survive2012.com/index.php/galactic-alignmen t.html#ixzz2DGFncMHK


I envy their dark skies before light pollution. I have to travel to west Texas to see the Milky Way rise like an approaching storm cloud.
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The ancient Maya were keen astronomers, recording and interpreting every aspect of the sky. As they believed that the will and actions of the Gods could be read in the stars, moon and planets, they dedicated much time to doing so and many of their most important buildings were constructed with astronomy in mind. The Sun, Moon and planets (Venus in particular) were studied by the Maya. The Maya also based their calendars around astronomy.
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Quoting LargoFl:
right its just the start of a new calander, BUT..without telescopes etc..they were Masters at star gazing and plotting the planets etc..which is truly amazing..and..they did..plot the changing universe that comes in the later part of december...amazing just how good they were at saying WHAT will happen many many years in advance..credit is due them alright


That that were, Largo. Quite an advanced civilization (as were the Olmecs preceding them)... However, I kinda believe the human sacrifice thing wasn't the best of karma for their future!
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Quoting DocNDswamp:
As for the upcoming Winter Solstice 2012 discussion, well I'm somewhat depressed over it. But I feel that way every year with it marking the end of days getting shorter / subsequently growing longer. Perhaps I'm the opposite of folks who suffer Winter-time blues, and I've definitely enjoyed our cooler than average Fall, but at my 29.6N latitude the cold season doesn't last long enough, with signs of Spring usually evident in February - lol, although statistically / historically that's our snowiest month if we get any!

Now back to the matter at hand. Let me offer solid reassurance about December 21 2012 - I've extensively researched the Mayan calendar and their correlated astronomy records and have found conclusive proof on the interpretation. Everyone can relax... we'll still be here on Dec 22 as the date of the Winter Solstice will merely mark the day that modern astronomers will discover the doomsday comet hurtling toward us... we'll have several days afterward to prepare...
;)

Miss Cleo predicted that on 12/21/12 I would pack my bong and eat cookies.
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Ancient cultures recognised four major dates within each year: the two solstices (when days are at their longest or shortest) and the two equinoxes (when the lengths of day and night are equal). They could tell when these dates were approaching by watching which stars were on the horizon at sunrise and sunset, and where they were relative to the sun. If you watched for long enough, for hundreds of years, then it became apparent that the stars were moving slightly out of position each year. The star that was due east at the winter solstice sunset 70 years ago is one degree out today. The Greek astronomer Hipparchus (c. 190-120 BC) is widely acknowledged as the discoverer of the precession of the equinoxes, yet the ancient Egyptians and Maya were also aware of it.


Read more: http://survive2012.com/index.php/galactic-alignmen t.html#ixzz2DGFncMHK
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SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2012

How the myth of fossil fuel abundance actually impedes progress on climate change

The great fear among those working to address climate change is that the seemingly vast resources of fossil fuels waiting to be burned will send the world hurtling toward certain catastrophe. By invoking fossil fuel abundance, climate activists believe that their argument for a rapid transition to alternative energy is made more persuasive. But, it is poor strategy to reinforce the myth of fossil fuel abundance when doing so actually makes many people less open to such an argument. And, as it turns out, the abundance argument is also contrary to the available data, logic and prudent risk management principles.

Here is what I mean. First, despite all the hype about marginal gains in U.S. oil production, world oil production has been on a plateau since 2005. Small gains in U.S. production have been offset by declining production in the rest of the world. The news for coal production is only slightly less discouraging as one study suggests that the rate of coal production worldwide could peak as early as 2025. In the United States, while coal tonnage has remained essentially flat from 1998 through 2011, energy content has actually declined. Has the available energy from U.S. coal production already peaked? We can't be sure. But the trend suggests caution....



http://resourceinsights.blogspot.com/2012/11/how- myth-of-fossil-fuel-abundance.html
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Quoting DocNDswamp:
As for the upcoming Winter Solstice 2012 discussion, well I'm somewhat depressed over it. But I feel that way every year with it marking the end of days getting shorter / subsequently growing longer. Perhaps I'm the opposite of folks who suffer Winter-time blues, and I've definitely enjoyed our cooler than average Fall, but at my 29.6N latitude the cold season doesn't last long enough, with signs of Spring usually evident in February - lol, although statistically / historically that's our snowiest month if we get any!

Now back to the matter at hand. Let me offer solid reassurance about December 21 2012 - I've extensively researched the Mayan calendar and their correlated astronomy records and have found conclusive proof on the interpretation. Everyone can relax... we'll still be here on Dec 22 as the date of the Winter Solstice will merely mark the day that modern astronomers will discover the doomsday comet hurtling toward us... we'll have several days afterward to prepare...
;)

right its just the start of a new calander, BUT..without telescopes etc..they were Masters at star gazing and plotting the planets etc..which is truly amazing..and..they did..plot the changing universe that comes in the later part of december...amazing just how good they were at saying WHAT will happen many many years in advance..credit is due them alright
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Cover the plants folks........................URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
107 PM EST SUN NOV 25 2012

...FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FOR LEVY...CITRUS...AND HERNANDO
COUNTIES LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY MORNING...
...FROST ADVISORY IN EFFECT FOR SUMTER COUNTY EARLY MONDAY
MORNING...

.A COLDER AND DRIER AIR MASS OVER THE AREA WILL LEAD TO A FEW
HOURS OF FREEZING TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE NATURE COAST LATE
TONIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY MORNING. AREAS OF FROST ARE EXPECTED IN
ADDITION TO THE COLD TEMPERATURES.

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/O.NEW.KTBW.FZ.W.0011.121126T0700Z-121126T1300Z/
LEVY-CITRUS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CEDAR KEY...CHIEFLAND...CRYSTAL RIVER...
INVERNESS
107 PM EST SUN NOV 25 2012

...FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 8 AM EST MONDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL HAS
ISSUED A FREEZE WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 8 AM
EST MONDAY. THE FREEZE WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* TEMPERATURE...TWO TO THREE HOURS AT OR BELOW 32 DEGREES
POSSIBLE.

* IMPACTS...DAMAGE IS POSSIBLE TO COLD SENSITIVE PLANTS. PLAN TO
COVER OR BRING INDOORS THESE PLANTS THIS EVENING. ALSO BE SURE
TO BRING PETS INSIDE TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE COLD.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WARNING IS ISSUED FOR 2 OR MORE HOURS OF TEMPERATURES
BETWEEN 27 AND 32 OVER A WIDESPREAD AREA.

RESIDENTS SHOULD COVER OR MOVE INDOORS ANY COLD SENSITIVE
PLANTS...AND BRING PETS INDOORS THIS EVENING.

&&

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As for the upcoming Winter Solstice 2012 discussion, well I'm somewhat depressed over it. But I feel that way every year with it marking the end of days getting shorter / subsequently growing longer. Perhaps I'm the opposite of folks who suffer Winter-time blues, and I've definitely enjoyed our cooler than average Fall, but at my 29.6N latitude the cold season doesn't last long enough, with signs of Spring usually evident in February - lol, although statistically / historically that's our snowiest month if we get any!

Now back to the matter at hand. Let me offer solid reassurance about December 21 2012 - I've extensively researched the Mayan calendar and their correlated astronomy records and have found conclusive proof on the interpretation. Everyone can relax... we'll still be here on Dec 22 as the date of the Winter Solstice will merely mark the day that modern astronomers will discover the doomsday comet hurtling toward us... we'll have several days afterward to prepare...
;)

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Quoting RTSplayer:


Only a couple percent of China's population owns automobiles. Just wait till they equal the west.



Here's the real problem.

Solving pollution problems, especially a fundamental chemistry problem like CO2, requires top to bottom change in our energy infrastructure and technology. However, capitalistic societies are driven by short term and medium term profits for individuals or corporations, rather than what makes sense for entire civilizations over entire life times.

Currently, almost nothing in government is planned beyond the next election cycle, and then when the next election happens, they spend the first half of their term undoing any long-term policies made by the previous administration. As a nation, we have "multiple personality disorder" whereby the two personalities have totally opposite beliefs which spend the majority of their time doing little more than undermining the other personality.



So what's the solution? Assuming GW is A. A one world government imposing it's will at gunpoint? A dictatorship in the USA so we don't keep changing governments every 4 to 8 years? Kinda scary sounding.


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Quoting Grothar:
Were are having a severe outbreak of sunshine today. Not a cloud in the sky.
Please use SPF ( Sun Protection Factor ) sun block of 16,000,000,000. Do not go near water as glare may shoot beaming laser rays into your guts. ...avoid U.V,s...they cause 20 to 30 pound melanomies.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


Truly Dangerous wx, you could hurt your eyes looking up, could crash from sunshine in your eyes while driving, or you could get skin cancer....


Are you guys making fun of the whole "Fog = Severe weather" thing?

Personally, I wouldn't consider Fog as "severe weather" because the only damage associated with it is actually directly induced by human stupidity.
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Quoting DocNDswamp:


LOL Gro,
Well the aviation term is indeed, "severe clear" for such... ;)


I'm just glad I don't have to go through another apocalypse. It sort of messes up the day.
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Quoting AussieStorm:
Look what's on CNN.....

NASA predicts total blackout on 23-25 Dec 2012 during alignment of Universe.

US scientists predict Universe change, total blackout of planet for 3 days from Dec 23 2012.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-al ignment.html

It is not the end of the world, it is an alignment of the Universe, where the Sun and the earth will align for the first time. The earth will shift from
the current third dimension to zero dimension, then shift to the forth dimension. During this transition, the entire Universe will face a big
change, and we will see a entire brand new world.

The 3 days blackout is predicted to happen on Dec 23, 24, 25....during this time, staying calm is most important, hug each other, pray pray pray, sleep for 3 nights...and those who survive will face a brand new world....for those not prepared, many will die because of fear.

Be happy, enjoy every moment now. Don't worry, pray to God everday.

There is a lot of talk about what will happen in 2012, but many people don't believe it, and don't want to talk
about it for fear of creating fear and panic. We don't know what will happen, but it is worth
listening to USA 's NASA talk about preparation.


Here is what NASA really says. Link


Thanks for the find Aussie.

I've seen JFV posts with more articulation and sense than this iReport CNN article. What were they thinking?

Be happy, enjoy every moment now. Don't worry, pray to God everday.

While trying to ignore the fact that they misspelled 'everyday', just reading the post you can tell this is incredibly poor scientific understanding and full of logical fallacies, and it's a hoax. There's nothing like that, that has been announced to the media by NASA. Because you know, smart people work there.
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Quoting Grothar:
Were are having a severe outbreak of sunshine today. Not a cloud in the sky.


Truly Dangerous wx, you could hurt your eyes looking up, could crash from sunshine in your eyes while driving, or you could get skin cancer....
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Quoting Grothar:
Were are having a severe outbreak of sunshine today. Not a cloud in the sky.


LOL Gro,
Well the aviation term is indeed, "severe clear" for such... ;)
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Were are having a severe outbreak of sunshine today. Not a cloud in the sky.
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CA could be looking at some in that we have not seen in a vary long time

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G'day, Sun Nov 25th

SE LA weather report -
LOL, well outta the fog and into the frost! And actually I saw both last night while enjoying a bonfire under moonlit skies... ;)

Coldest morning yet across the Gulf South with lows uniformly in 20's / 30's, although certainly not record-setting. Checking lows around my part of SE LA, locally the Houma Metro (record low: 22F, 1950) saw USDA @ 32.4F, KHUM @ 34.7F, my Bayou Cane home @ 35.1F, while my truly rural / always colder Bayou Blue location had a freeze with 30F reading... As I've documented numerous times - When I left there last night before 10 PM, already was 37F, got home 6 miles back to the urbanized, commercialized mass of concrete that formerly rural Bayou Cane has been transformed into to find warmer 44F reading. By midnight the respective readings were 34F and 39F.

Anyway, rebounding nicely into the 60's now after observing my 3rd frost of season - full coverage, surfaces coated in icy white at sunrise, beautiful Winter morning. But quick changes on the way, including good chance rain next 2 days, minor cool-off on Wed, with overall trend here milder to likely end the month / start December on a warmer note. However, our local temp departure for November 2012 is certain to average below normal - data from Louisiana Office State Climatology indicates Houma mean temperature was 7F degrees below average for week 1, 5F degrees below average week 2, 9F degrees below average for week 3... Been a cool Fall for us, but I'm a little skeptical of that trend continuing thru Winter.

Blog topic PS: My local Thanksgiving 2012 weather observation was like much of the N Gulf region and Florida - seasonable and pleasant, calm, dry, tranquil conditions neither excessively warm or cold, very average... Cool morn low temps with light fog, mild aftn high temps, mostly sunny skies with fair wx cumulus / increasing cirrus and shallow alto cumulus deck from west late in day, light / variable to calm winds.

Calendar date November 22 climate normals Houma LA 164407 -
('81-2010 period): 50.7-71.2F = MT: 60.95F
LOSC temp data Thanksgiving Thu Nov 22 2012, Houma: 41-76F
Low temp 41F was 9.7F below average
High temp 76F was 4.8F above average
Daily Mean Temp 58.5F was 2.45F below average
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TCFA issued for 91W:

WTPN21 PGTW 251700
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
RMKS/
1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
140 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 3.0N 158.2E TO 4.5N 155.0E WITHIN
THE NEXT 06 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF
NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA
ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 20 TO 25 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 251630Z
INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 3.1N 157.8E. THE
SYSTEM IS MOVING WESTWARD AT 05 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 2.6N
158.5E IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 3.1N 157.8E, APPROXIMATELY 220 NM SOUTH
OF POHNPEI. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES A
CONSOLIDATING LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) WITH IMPROVED
CONVECTIVE BANDING. A 251424Z AMSU IMAGE DEPICTS DEEP CONVECTIVE
BANDING OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE WRAPPING INTO THE SOUTHEAST
QUADRANT OF AN ELONGATED LLCC. A 251058Z PARTIAL ASCAT IMAGE SHOWS
15 TO 20 KNOT WINDS OVER THE EASTERN SEMI-CIRCLE, INDICATIVE OF THE
RECENT CONSOLIDATION OF THE LLCC. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES
THAT THE LLCC IS LOCATED UNDER A DEVELOPING ANTICYCLONE, WHICH IS
PROVIDING AMPLE RADIAL OUTFLOW. OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS, VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR HAS BECOME MORE FAVORABLE AND IS NOW WEAK (10 TO 15
KNOTS). MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 20 TO 25
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1004 MB.
THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS HIGH.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY
261700Z.//
NNNN

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Quoting AussieStorm:
Look what's on CNN.....

NASA predicts total blackout on 23-25 Dec 2012 during alignment of Universe.

US scientists predict Universe change, total blackout of planet for 3 days from Dec 23 2012.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-al ignment.html

It is not the end of the world, it is an alignment of the Universe, where the Sun and the earth will align for the first time. The earth will shift from
the current third dimension to zero dimension, then shift to the forth dimension. During this transition, the entire Universe will face a big
change, and we will see a entire brand new world.

The 3 days blackout is predicted to happen on Dec 23, 24, 25....during this time, staying calm is most important, hug each other, pray pray pray, sleep for 3 nights...and those who survive will face a brand new world....for those not prepared, many will die because of fear.

Be happy, enjoy every moment now. Don't worry, pray to God everday.

There is a lot of talk about what will happen in 2012, but many people don't believe it, and don't want to talk
about it for fear of creating fear and panic. We don't know what will happen, but it is worth
listening to USA 's NASA talk about preparation.


Here is what NASA really says. Link


That article is a hoax, and it only took me about half-way through the first paragraph to recognize that whoever wrote it has absolutely no scientific education or understanding beyond about the 4th grade level.

In fact, if you actually go to the NASA article they claim to be citing as a reference, you find it's opening paragraph says the exact opposite:

The actual NASA article

One of the most bizarre theories about 2012 has built up with very little attention to facts. This idea holds that a cosmic alignment of the sun, Earth, the center of our galaxy -- or perhaps the galaxy's thick dust clouds -- on the winter solstice could for some unknown reason lead to destruction. Such alignments can occur but these are a regular occurrence and can cause no harm (and, indeed, will not even be at its closest alignment during the 2012 solstice.)

...

The first strike against this theory is that the solstice itself does not correlate to any movements of the stars or anything in the universe beyond Earth. It just happens to be the day that Earth's North Pole is tipped farthest from the sun.

Second, Earth is not within range of strong gravitational effects from the black hole at the center of the galaxy since gravitational effects decrease exponentially the farther away one gets. Earth is 93 million miles from the sun and 165 quadrillion miles from the Milky Way's black hole. The sun and the moon (a smaller mass, but much closer) are by far the most dominant gravitational forces on Earth. Throughout the course of the year, our distance from the Milky Way's black hole changes by about one part in 900 million – not nearly enough to cause a real change in gravity's pull. Moreover, we're actually nearest to the galactic center in the summer, not at the winter solstice.

Third, the sun appears to enter the part of the sky occupied by the Dark Rift every year at the same time, and its arrival there in Dec. 2012 portends precisely nothing.


It's almost as if people intentionally set out to make themselves as ignorant as possible about every possible topic.
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Quoting charlottefl:
Someone missed the "not vetted by CNN" at the top of the page. Looks like an i report editorial...



I am sorry...I always fall into trolls tricks.
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Someone missed the "not vetted by CNN" at the top of the page. Looks like an i report editorial...

Quoting Tango01:



To begin with (and I am not sure where to begin here...) there is no consensus about how many dimensions the universe currently have. However, there is one thing for sure... The universe has at least 4 dimensions (Minkowsky space = 3 spatial + 1 temporal dimension). For this reason, the view of the universe as an expanding balloon, although nice,it's not realistic because there is no center of the universe. Since there is no center, there are no "alignments" in the sense that is being described in this ludicrous description of I don't really know what.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
WINTER WEATHER UPDATE
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Big Lake effect snowstorm


lick for larger image


Thanks Max.. :)
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WINTER WEATHER UPDATE...11:45 AM UPDATE
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UPDATED... Big Lake effect snowstorm

...change... the bottom white shaded area should say near half a foot...not over a foot...



click for larger image
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Quoting Dragod66:
thanks guys aussie and pcola!
your welcome
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Quoting TomballTXPride:

Once again, that's called weather. Climate is combined weather 30 years or more.



"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." Gautama Buddha

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Quoting AussieStorm:
Look what's on CNN.....

NASA predicts total blackout on 23-25 Dec 2012 during alignment of Universe.

US scientists predict Universe change, total blackout of planet for 3 days from Dec 23 2012.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-al ignment.html

It is not the end of the world, it is an alignment of the Universe, where the Sun and the earth will align for the first time. The earth will shift from
the current third dimension to zero dimension, then shift to the forth dimension. During this transition, the entire Universe will face a big
change, and we will see a entire brand new world.

The 3 days blackout is predicted to happen on Dec 23, 24, 25....during this time, staying calm is most important, hug each other, pray pray pray, sleep for 3 nights...and those who survive will face a brand new world....for those not prepared, many will die because of fear.

Be happy, enjoy every moment now. Don't worry, pray to God everday.

There is a lot of talk about what will happen in 2012, but many people don't believe it, and don't want to talk
about it for fear of creating fear and panic. We don't know what will happen, but it is worth
listening to USA 's NASA talk about preparation.


Here is what NASA really says. Link



To begin with (and I am not sure where to begin here...) there is no consensus about how many dimensions the universe currently have. However, there is one thing for sure... The universe has at least 4 dimensions (Minkowsky space = 3 spatial + 1 temporal dimension). For this reason, the view of the universe as an expanding balloon, although nice,it's not realistic because there is no center of the universe. Since there is no center, there are no "alignments" in the sense that is being described in this ludicrous description of I don't really know what.
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Webcam near my location..


My WU weather at a glance..





Current Jet Stream
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Well,90W or 91W has SSD dvorak numbers up to 1.5.

Up to 1.5

TPPN10 PGTW 251535

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE 91W (SE OF CHUUK)

B. 25/1430Z

C. 3.3N

D. 157.6E

E. FIVE/MTSAT

F. T1.5/1.5 STT: D0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 38A/PBO SBC/ANMTN. A .30 WRAP ON THE LOG10 SPIRAL
YIELDS A DT OF 1.5. PT AGREES. DBO DT.
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What happened at NRL that they changed from 90W to 91W? And is the same system.


Link
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All Tropical Cyclone Imagery - Storm Floaters

91W

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Quoting Xandra:
The History of Climate Change Negotiations in 83 seconds



Only a couple percent of China's population owns automobiles. Just wait till they equal the west.



Here's the real problem.

Solving pollution problems, especially a fundamental chemistry problem like CO2, requires top to bottom change in our energy infrastructure and technology. However, capitalistic societies are driven by short term and medium term profits for individuals or corporations, rather than what makes sense for entire civilizations over entire life times.

Currently, almost nothing in government is planned beyond the next election cycle, and then when the next election happens, they spend the first half of their term undoing any long-term policies made by the previous administration. As a nation, we have "multiple personality disorder" whereby the two personalities have totally opposite beliefs which spend the majority of their time doing little more than undermining the other personality.
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thanks guys aussie and pcola!
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Some rough calculations suggest that based on current melt rates and ~6 year average melt rates (the fifth year screws stuff up,) arctic volume annual minimum curve appears to hit zero in the 4th year (2016) using an exponential curve, or the fifth year (2017) just using linear.

Further



It should be noted that the annual MAXIMUM will fall below the highest annual minimum (16,900km^3) in the modern record sometime in the next 5 to 7 years.




This would represent a complete bifurcation in the annual Arctic ice volume cycle, which is again stated as, "the annual maximum volume will be permanently lower than the annual minimum volume was at the beginning of the satellite record."


Annual area minimum should hit zero in 5 years if the rate is linear, or 4 years if the rate is exponential, agreeing closely with the projected volume melt rate.




The area maximum curve is less well behaved than the area minimum, but as average thickness continues to decrease this trend should change so that area maximum becomes more well behaved, in terms of tracking the data, not in terms of what's good for the planet.

I determined that the rate of decrease (slope of the tangent) in the area maximum lags behind the rate of decrease in the area minimum by about 9 or 10 years. However, this could be somewhat coincidental. It seems likely that as thickness continues decreasing this time delay will shrink or disappear.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


This is the latest from the Euro. A small but strong Typhoon threatening Mindanao.

there is also a ts I believe south of Japan.
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The Weather Channel ‏@weatherchannel
On the heels of #Sandy and Winter Storm #Athena, this week's Northeast #snow will be on the minor side. Link
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Does that mean they are not going to name it?
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The History of Climate Change Negotiations in 83 seconds

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Quoting Dragod66:
I'm looking for a snow forecast for Wednesday and Thursday for Eastern Us/Canada... Anyone help me out?


Try this link Dragod66..it covers alot of territory..the legend on the left of this link can be helpful.. :)
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Quoting Dragod66:
I'm looking for a snow forecast for Wednesday and Thursday for Eastern Us/Canada... Anyone help me out?


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Quoting AussieStorm:

the Euro had it as a very compact system last week but keeping it well out to sea, so not much has changed then.


This is the latest from the Euro. A small but strong Typhoon threatening Mindanao.

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TXPride cometh before a Fall ?
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There are now 25 days until the 2012 winter solstice.
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Quoting TomballTXPride:

Once again, that's called weather. Climate is combined weather 30 years or more.
and once again your incongruity of response, to having not being addressed in the first place, completely misses Nea's reply to an actual question...
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