A tranquil and record-warm Thanksgiving for much of the U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:35 PM GMT on November 23, 2012

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Celebrations of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States in 2012 were aided by some of the most tranquil travel weather ever seen on what is America's busiest travel week. Unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday, with many locations in the Midwest reporting their warmest Thanksgiving Day on record. At least three cities set records for their warmest temperature ever recorded so late in the year: Valentine, Nebraska (76° on Wednesday); Rochester, Minnesota (70° on Wednesday); and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan (65° on Thursday.) While the quiet weather was a boon for travelers, the lack of rain in the Midwest allowed the nation's worst drought since 1954 to expand; the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought expanded by 1% to 60% this week. This reversed a seven-week trend of slowly decreasing drought that began on September 25 and extended until November 13, when the area covered by drought declined from 65% to 59%. The latest ten-day forecasts from the GFS and ECMWF models show much below average chances of precipitation across more 90% of the U.S., including the drought regions. These dry conditions will allow the drought to expand over the next two weeks, and potentially cover 65% of the contiguous U.S. again by mid-December. The next chance for significant rains in excess of one inch in the Midwest will not occur until December 2, at the earliest. The lack of rain will potentially cause serious trouble for barge traffic on the Mississippi River by December 10, when the river may fall below the level of -5 feet at St. Louis needed to allow barges to not scrape bottom.


Figure 1. This week's U.S. Drought Monitor shows 60% of the contiguous U.S. was in moderate or greater drought.


Figure 2. Predicted 8-day precipitation amounts from the 06Z (1 am EST) November 23, 2012 run of the GFS model. For the 8-day period ending on Saturday, December 1, only the Northwest Coast, Central Gulf Coast, and portions of the Tennessee Valley are predicted to receive rains in excess of one inch. Image credit: NOAA.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss today, and none of the reliable models is forecasting tropical cyclone development between now and the Friday, November 30 official end of hurricane season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of one more named storm forming in December in the middle Atlantic between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, but late-season storms forming in that location rarely affect land.

Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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I Am Thankful
HappyThanksgiving! (suzi46)
to all our wonderful WU Community..a frigid and frosty daybreak at our neighbor's pond..heading up to a sunny and beautiful 50 degree afternoon..:)
HappyThanksgiving!
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there's always light..
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Quoting Skyepony:
Sun has only been up 4-5 hrs, D-min should be hard on it. Being that close to the equator has got to be a hindering factor for 26W too. Last thing I see that has passed it looks sloppy. OSCAT



And also looks very broad.
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Trying to do some cyber-Monday shopping. Can not find a simple Miami Dolphins letter opener. The Google machine stinks tonight.
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Sun has only been up 4-5 hrs, D-min should be hard on it. Being that close to the equator has got to be a hindering factor for 26W too. Last thing I see that has passed it looks sloppy. OSCAT

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ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.1.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 26 NOV 2012 Time : 003000 UTC
Lat : 3:52:43 N Lon : 156:36:27 E


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
1.8 /1006.0mb/ 28.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
1.8 2.1 2.6

Center Temp : -17.8C Cloud Region Temp : -27.3C

Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.38 ARC in MD GRAY
Maximum CURVED BAND with 0.48 ARC in MD GRAY
at Lat: 4:40:12 N Lon: 155:48:00 E
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


Cloud tops have warmed a bit. Maybe some dry air penetrated the circulation?


Probably not dry air as it is within very moist air. It is probably because that the cyclone is continuing to consolidate or in diurnal minimum.

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Honestly, I'm surprised 26W was declared as soon as it was. I mean, T-numbers from SAB are at T1.5, and convection is on the decrease.

I would've waited until later on tonight or in the morning.

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Quoting Civicane49:
26W:



Cloud tops have warmed a bit. Maybe some dry air penetrated the circulation?
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wow so many "Blackout" moment with the server.
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26W:

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807. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #10
PERTURBATION TROPICALE, FORMER BOLDWIN (03-20122013)
4:30 AM RET November 26 2012
=======================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Disturbance, Former Boldwin (1003 hPa) located at 15.3S 73.3E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots. The disturbance is reported as moving southwest at 5 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0/2.5/S0.0/0 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 15.7S 71.2E - Depression Se Comblant
48 HRS: 16.9S 68.2E - Depression Se Comblant

Additional Information
========================
According to recent microwave imagery, low level circulation center, always quite difficult to locate, seems to be located now west northwest out of the convection.

In the south of the upper level ridge axis, northwesterly vertical wind shear keeps on increasing near the centre of Boldwin. The convective activity mainly exists in the southeastern quadrant. Wind shear is expected to keeps on increasing as the system will undergo the influence of an approaching upper level trough.

System is therefore expected to keeps on weakening rapidly within the next 24 hours as it tracks west southwestwards under the steering influence of the subtropical high pressures. Beyond system should track towards a polar trough transiting in its south, and turn southwards and merge with this trough on Wednesday.

Last warning about this system unless re-intensification
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Quoting LargoFl:
feels like christmas lol..............


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well thats it for me folks..have a great night.............A cold morning gave way to a pleasant, somewhat cool, Sunday afternoon.

Sunday was one of the coldest mornings of the season so far. Although most of the Tampa Bay area was spared heavy-jacket weather, temperatures dropped below freezing in parts of Hernando and Citrus counties.

Brooksville reported 30 degrees, Crystal River 31, Locanto 32, Weeki Wachee 34, Inverness 37 and Polk City 38.

"There were a few unofficial observations in southwestern Citrus county around the Sugarmill Woods area of about 28 degrees," Linker said.

Polk County and eastern Hillsborough County dropped into upper 30s (Brandon reported 39 degrees), but closer to the Gulf of Mexico, Pinellas and Manatee counties were several degrees warmer.

The National Weather Service in Ruskin issued a freeze warning for Citrus and Hernando counties, from late Sunday night through early Monday morning.

A warming trend will begin Monday. A high of 76 degrees is projected for Monday, and the rest of the week should be even warmer
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for california.........................PERIODS OF WET AND WINDY WEATHER WEDNESDAY THROUGH NEXT
WEEKEND WITH INCREASED WEATHER IMPACTS POSSIBLE BY NEXT
WEEKEND...

MAJOR WEATHER CHANGES ARE EXPECTED BEGINNING MIDWEEK AND
CONTINUING THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND AS A LARGE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE
MOVES TOWARD THE EASTERN PACIFIC. RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN
WEDNESDAY ACROSS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. THIS INITIAL SYSTEM WILL
WILL BE FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY SEVERAL MORE STORM SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT
THE WEEK AND INTO THE WEEKEND. THESE STORMS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
MOISTURE FROM THE TROPICAL PACIFIC...MEANING CONSIDERABLE
PRECIPITATION TOTALS WILL BE LIKELY WITH EACH SYSTEM. OVERALL
PRECIPITATION TOTALS FOR ANY ONE AREA COULD SIGNIFICANTLY VARY AND
WILL DEPEND ON WHERE THE FOCUS OF THE HEAVIEST RAIN FROM EACH
SYSTEM SETS UP IN THE STATE. CURRENTLY ONE MODEL KEEPS THE FOCUS
OVER THE SACRAMENTO VALLEY REGION WHILE OTHERS SPREAD SOME OF THE
HEAVIER RAIN FURTHER SOUTH AND EVEN INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WITH
SUBSEQUENT SYSTEMS. EACH OF THESE STORM SYSTEMS WILL BE
ACCOMPANIED BY GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS.

SNOW LEVELS WILL START AROUND 6000 FEET WITH THE WEDNESDAY
SYSTEM...AND WILL RISE TO 7000 FEET OR HIGHER WITH THE SUBSEQUENT
WARMER STORMS.

FORECAST CONFIDENCE IS HIGH THAT THIS SERIES OF STORM SYSTEMS
WILL IMPACT THE REGION. HOWEVER WITH SEVERAL DAYS UNTIL THESE LOW
PRESSURE SYSTEMS AFFECT THE REGION...DETAILS ON TIMING AND
INTENSITY OF EACH STORM THAT PASSES THROUGH THE REGION WILL
BECOME CLEARER OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. RAINFALL TOTALS COULD
BE SIGNIFICANT WHICH COULD INCREASE THE FLOOD POTENTIAL BY NEXT
WEEKEND AS THE GROUND BECOMES SATURATED AND WATER GOES DIRECTLY
INTO RUNOFF RATHER THAN SEEPING INTO SOILS AND WATER LEVELS
CONTINUE TO RISE ON THE SMALL RIVERS AND STREAMS.

POTENTIAL IMPACTS INCLUDE:
*URBAN AND RURAL FLOODING ESPECIALLY FOR FLOOD PRONE AREAS.

*SIGNIFICANT RISES IN WATER LEVELS FOR RIVERS AND STREAMS WITH
POSSIBLE SMALL STEAM FLOODING.

*MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN AND GUSTY WINDS MAY BRING DOWN TREE
BRANCHES AND TREES. LOCAL POWER OUTAGES WILL BE POSSIBLE.

*MUD AND ROCK SLIDES LIKELY AND POSSIBLE DEBRIS FLOWS FOR
RECENT BURN SCARS.

STAY TUNED TO THE LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATEMENTS OR
YOUR LOCAL MEDIA OUTLET FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON THIS POTENTIALLY
HIGH IMPACT SERIES OF STORMS.


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BARUFFALDI
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I just finished up a blog on 26W if you're interested.

Link
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Guam NWS local Statement regarding Tropical Depression 26W.



URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED...TECHNICAL CORRECTION
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TIYAN GU
900 AM CHST MON NOV 26 2012

...TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W HAS FORMED SOUTHWEST OF POHNPEI...

...AREAS AFFECTED...
THIS STATEMENT PROVIDES INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR
PEOPLE IN NUKUORO ATOLL IN POHNPEI STATE...AND LUKUNOR AND ITS
SURROUNDING ATOLLS IN CHUUK STATE. THE ISLAND OF NGATIK IS IN THIS
AREA OF CONCERN.

...WATCHES AND WARNINGS...
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS NOW IN EFFECT FOR NUKUORO ATOLL IN POHNPEI
STATE AND LUKUNOR ATOLL IN CHUUK STATE. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS...
INCLUDING DAMAGING WINDS OF 39 TO 73 MPH...ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN 48
HOURS.

...STORM INFORMATION...
AT 700 AM CHST...2100Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 3.7 DEGREES NORTH AND LONGITUDE 156.8 DEGREES
EAST.

THIS IS ABOUT 125 MILES EAST OF NUKUORO
160 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF SAPWUAFIK (NGATIK)
235 MILES SOUTHEAST OF LUKUNOR
240 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF POHNPEI AND
425 MILES SOUTHEAST OF WENO ISLAND CHUUK.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWEST AT 9 MPH. THIS
GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

.SITUATION OVERVIEW...
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 30 MPH AND TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W WILL
SLOWLY INTENSIFY AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST. TD 26W IS
EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AND LIKELY BECOME A TROPICAL STORM BY TUESDAY.

.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
DAMAGING WINDS ARE POSSIBLE FOR NUKUORO AND LUKUNOR AND THE SOUTHERN
MORTLOCK ISLANDS...WINDS WILL BE GUSTING UP TO 35 MPH AT TIMES TODAY
AND TONIGHT...AND SURF WILL BE BECOME DANGEROUSLY HIGH ALONG
WINDWARD COASTS. RIP CURRENTS WILL BE VERY STRONG AND POTENTIALLY
DEADLY. SMALL CRAFT SHOULD STAY IN PORT OR SECURED. INTER-ISLAND
TRAVEL OUTSIDE CHUUK LAGOON SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED.

...WIND INFORMATION...
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY INCREASE INTO THE RANGE OF 30 TO 50
MPH WITHIN 100 MILES OF TD 26W DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS AS IT
MOVES SLOWLY WEST-NORTHWEST. WAVES GENERATED BY TD 26W MAY
EVENTUALLY CAUSE SURF TO BUILD ALONG SOUTHERN AND EASTERN SHORES FOR
ALL THE ISLANDS OF POHNPEI AND CHUUK STATES.

...STORM SURGE AND SURF INFORMATION...
WAVES GENERATED BY TD 26W WILL BUILD TO 7 TO 9 FEET AND MAY CAUSE
SURF TO BUILD ALONG SOUTHERN SHORES FOR ALL THE ISLANDS OF POHNPEI
AND CHUUK STATES. THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL BE A PERIOD OF VERY HIGH
TIDES DUE TO THE FULL MOON AND INUNDATION PROBLEMS COULD DEVELOP IN
THE COMING DAYS AS 26W INTENSIFIES.

...OTHER STORM EFFECTS...
HEAVY RAINFALL OF 4 TO 6 INCHES OVER LARGE PARTS OF SOUTHERN POHNPEI
AND CHUUK STATES IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

...NEXT UPDATE...
THE NEXT SCHEDULED TROPICAL DEPRESSION 26W LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE
ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AT 3 PM CHST THIS AFTERNOON.

$$

SIMPSON/GUARD

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Quoting MidMOwx:


Thanks Largo.

My WFO (Pleasant Hill, MO NWS) forecast for tomorrow.

wow looks like winter is here already by you
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Not really.

I'm not a communist.

It's easy enough for one to spit out the word "communist" invoking some scare of cold war era Russian, or China's oppression of Christians (yet allegedly Christian Republicans insist on selling everyone out to them).

Yet that's not me, and not by quite a long margin.

It's easy to poison the well by immediately associating ideas of social justice with "OMG, communism! Run for the hills." As though "Capitalism" has some sort of monopoly on morality within government or fiscal policies. One need only look at the history of the U.S. to realize that our non-communist ancestors committed not one, but two of the greatest human atrocities in recent world history: via the "Trail of Tears" and the butchering of Native Americans, and by being one of the last nations to abolish slavery. It seems our democracy committed worse crimes than nearly anyone since about 2000 years prior.


Yet, when a communist idea ends up making the most sense, hey, let's be a communist!

China's birth limitation is a very wise and moral thing, as it turns out, because it protects the children from the foolishness of their parents, who would otherwise have more children than they can reasonably support. If such a policy were implemented in other, such as many African nations, then within a generation much of their poverty and violence would be halted. Well, most of the "Smart" couples in the U.S. are already self-regulating to just one or two children, because they recognize the financial wisdom in this (or else they may just be selfish in some cases and want to save for their own desires, so they do the right thing for the wrong reasons in some cases,) but either way, that's better than doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, or doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons.

Gasp, *shock* the horror! People shouldn't have more children than is reasonable.

I say this a a middle child among three, but I had great aunts and uncles who were part of a "liter" of 12 to 16 kids, and they were all poor as dirt because of it. I consider it child abuse. I even consider the "nineteen kids and counting" people on television as child abuse, in spite of the fact they make more money. Their relationships with their children are impersonal. They are treated as numbers, almost like pets or livestock, but I suppose not quite.

Anyway, ten kids having ten kids is immoral, and perhaps we've reached the point in the world where three kids having three kids is immoral, because the world can't contain their needs.


I try to be a realist, although much of a futurist as well.

I just want realistic long term planning between people and government to solve problems permanently for the good of everyone, not just the short term profits of a few selfish individuals, and I recognize that what exists in the U.S. currently is by no means fair nor realistic.

You may say something snide, such as "life's not fair," well, it could certainly be a lot more fair than it is now anyway, it's within the power of this generation to make it so, perhaps more than any previous.


Our very declaration of independence declares that all men are created equal.

Well, perhaps that's not true, but the point is we ought to strive to have equal rights, and modern capitalism does not actually provide that at all.

What we have today is actually much more like Orwell's Animal Farm, where the pigs changed it to say, "All animals are created equal, but some or more equal than others!"

It was claimed that the book was a satire of communism, but I rather think he may well have been mocking the U.S. just as much.

there's little enough difference between corporate leaders today and monarchies of the past. They have too much power and too much of the wealth. The Republicans claim to be for small businesses, and yet most people considered "small businesses" make no more than the median income, if they are lucky to make that, meanwhile the corporate chains are everywhere. The same Wal-Mart and other shopping centers, and the same fast food chains and the same specialty chains all exist from one town to the next, right around the entire nation. As long as people continue to fall into this trap, it will only get worse.

It's not that centralization of knowledge and logistics is a bad thing, it's not conceptually. The problem is the people over the corporations bilk both their employees and their customers through unfair prices and unfair wages, while they make orders of magnitude more income than most.


How is that moral?

You can call me a communist if you like.

I'm not (fundamentally,) but I'd rather be a moral communist than an immoral capitalist.
Many of your points here are valid. I agree with you about child limitation, but it is a human rights issue and a dangerous topic to discuss. My family never owned any slaves and came to this country via Nova Scotia as French Acadians. Slavery was wrong no doubt, but many people came here as indentured servants and in many cases were treated far worse. I do not believe
that government should regulate every part of my life. I vote for a president once every four years, but vote every day with my dollars. If you do not approve of what Zuckerberg makes, don't support his business. The same goes for atheletes and movie stars.
Don't buy their products. We can control our own destinys without losing our freedom. Being part of a herd did not work out well for the buffolo.
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Quoting LargoFl:
..hi yes there is some but most of the orchards have moved south of..hmmm say tampa- orlando line in central florida southward..so far in my area..no frost or freeze this time..but north of me in leavy county they had the freeze


Thanks Largo.

My WFO (Pleasant Hill, MO NWS) forecast for tomorrow.

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:


I agree. Since when has the governmnet ever run anything efficiently?
The NWS is a perfect example of a government agency that provides the citizens with information more efficiently than any combination of private companies could do, and they don't use any guns:P
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26W is continuing to consolidate.

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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
107 PM EST SUN NOV 25 2012

...FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FOR LEVY...CITRUS...AND HERNANDO
COUNTIES LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY MORNING...
...FROST ADVISORY IN EFFECT FOR SUMTER COUNTY EARLY MONDAY
MORNING...

.A COLDER AND DRIER AIR MASS OVER THE AREA WILL LEAD TO A FEW
HOURS OF FREEZING TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE NATURE COAST LATE
TONIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY MORNING. AREAS OF FROST ARE EXPECTED IN
ADDITION TO THE COLD TEMPERATURES.
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Quoting MidMOwx:


Thanks for the welcome. That's quite a large spread in overnight temperatures in the graphic you posted @781. The Gulf of Mexico waters must be flexing their muscle for the coastal areas keeping them substantially warmer.

Is there much in the way of citrus in the areas dropping to the 20's?
Quoting MidMOwx:


Thanks for the welcome. That's quite a large spread in overnight temperatures in the graphic you posted @781. The Gulf of Mexico waters must be flexing their muscle for the coastal areas keeping them substantially warmer.

Is there much in the way of citrus in the areas dropping to the 20's?
..hi yes there is some but most of the orchards have moved south of..hmmm say tampa- orlando line in central florida southward..so far in my area..no frost or freeze this time..but north of me in leavy county they had the freeze
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The Arklatex, and parts of Mississippi, region could get some severe weather tomorrow. This severe weather would be in the from of large hail and damaging winds.

Day 2 convective outlook
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THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR NORTHEAST
KENTUCKY...SOUTHEAST OHIO AND MUCH OF WEST VIRGINIA.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

FOR OVERNIGHT MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING...A QUICK BAND OF
LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE OVER TO WET SNOW...THEN
END DURING THE DAY ON TUESDAY.

CURRENT THINKING IS THAT MOST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WOULD BE LESS
THAN 2 INCHES. HOWEVER...IF THIS FEATURE BECOMES STRONGER...WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORIES MAY BE POSTED FOR A FEW...MOST FAVORED COUNTIES.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

$$

KTB
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Quoting LargoFl:


Thanks for the welcome. That's quite a large spread in overnight temperatures in the graphic you posted @781. The Gulf of Mexico waters must be flexing their muscle for the coastal areas keeping them substantially warmer.

Is there much in the way of citrus in the areas dropping to the 20's?
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feels like christmas lol..............
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I wish I was getting this much snow, that is later in winter for me. Lake effect snow warnings are in affect for this area. Yes, heavy lake-effect snow is severe weather.

Mesoscale discussion 2122
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Quoting txjac:


Wow, thanks ...hadnt even looked as I thought it was just going to be more of the same ...hope some of the rain gets to bohonk man!
..yes looks like he will be getting some
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785. txjac
Quoting LargoFl:
stay alert over there txjac..bad weather coming to you....


Wow, thanks ...hadnt even looked as I thought it was just going to be more of the same ...hope some of the rain gets to bohonk man!
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Quoting yoboi:




i think if i start a business take the risk and work hard i should be able to make all i can


What risk?

If a large company is about to go under due to poor business practices, say predatory lending... Nowadays, the taxpayers bail them out.

This is what I have a problem with... You can't have it both ways. Either you're taking the risk, and with that risk you are allowed to actually fail. Or, you're not really taking a risk.
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There is one small point of comfort in this discussion of AGW -- climate does indeed follow cycles, natural or induced/forced. AGW, with the predicted temperature increases over several centuries (a tiny bit of time geologically), will undoubtedly trigger another Carboniferous Age, in which the fossil fuels used up by humans will be replaced over a couple of hundred million years. But I doubt if humans will survive to repeat the current cycle! Too bad -- the weather then should be ... interesting.
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stay alert over there txjac..bad weather coming to you....
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Quoting txjac:


I walked the dog and it feels a lot warmer than 76 here. Need some more cool weather
..LOL, i wish it was 76 here now..this was a strong cold front this weekend..sure knocked our temps down alot..but its supposed to warm up this week
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Quoting whitewabit:


That's a lot of rain Taz ..
..yes that sure IS alot of rain, if this pans out..california will have the mud slides once again
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778. txjac
Quoting LargoFl:
Just walked the dogs, feels alot colder than 56.......


I walked the dog and it feels a lot warmer than 76 here. Need some more cool weather
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Quoting txjac:


Who was 768?

RTSplayer
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Just walked the dogs, feels alot colder than 56.......
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775. txjac
Quoting wxchaser97:

All of his posts are gone. He was either hit with the ban hammer or just they all got removed.


Who was 768?

Forget it ...I figured it out
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
What happened to 768? Man that was quick!

All of his posts are gone. He was either hit with the ban hammer or just they all got removed.
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Quoting MidMOwx:
Greetings from central Missouri. Long time lurker, first time poster.

The weather has been docile in the area for some time. I'm excited at the prospects of snow flurries here tomorrow before temperatures rebound into the 50's later in the week.
hello and thanks for Delurking
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Quoting txjac:


I agree with that. Here's what makes me angry. Two people in my family - one working as a pipe fitter/plumber working in a union shop (community college two year degree) , the other a highly trained cardiac critical care nurse. Union working = 70.00 an hour in Ohio, cardiac critical care nurse = 56.00 and hour.

Now why does a person that works with welding rods think that he should out earn a highly ediucated nurse?

This is a big part of what needs to change to make USA once again successful



wait until the new health care laws kicks in that nurse will be making half that.....
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What happened to 768? Man that was quick!
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769. txjac
Quoting yoboi:




i think if i start a business take the risk and work hard i should be able to make all i can


I agree with that. Here's what makes me angry. Two people in my family - one working as a pipe fitter/plumber working in a union shop (community college two year degree) , the other a highly trained cardiac critical care nurse. Union working = 70.00 an hour in Ohio, cardiac critical care nurse = 56.00 and hour.

Now why does a person that works with welding rods think that he should out earn a highly ediucated nurse?

This is a big part of what needs to change to make USA once again successful
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